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TF2 killer?
>>341082130
TF2 is already dead. It was already dying when it went F2P and now its just used as a puppet to make overwatch successful for a while.
Ranger's face is so fucked up
Why is the guy on the left wearing a cutout of the guy on the right's helmet as a mask
>>341083061
He's has this disease
>>341083495
Gross
CLASS
BASED
SHOOTER
>>341082858
Nigga just got gutted, what do you expect?
Confirmed guns so far
>Gauntlet
>Machine Gun
>Shotgun
>Rocket Launcher
>Railgun(?)
>Lightning Gun
>>341084084
Actually it seems to be CLASS-BASED DEATHMATCH
Unusual mix.
>>341082130
More of a battlefield/callofduty killer
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Qmo8mFo.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>341084379
The one on the left looks like Sarge but mechanized. He partially has that iconic haircut. Also Ranger is higher than Sarge in Q3 so that's some proof.. 6'5'' vs 6'1''
Special abilities
>>341086127
it's Visor
>>341086679
Good eye, I stand corrected.
>>341082130
there will be a classic mode without powerups, id is not that fucking casual
>>341086679
hmm what about other ones?
>>341082130
what is this?
>>341087196
Quake: Champions
>>341087196
CQ
HU
AA
MK
PE
I
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S
>>341087104
I hope all the ones from Q3A come back.
But the blue haired girl and the big guy are new characters
Honestly I think the guy on the left looks fucking badass
>>341087527
I wonder if they would put BJ as another cameo? unless they do the same with Bethesda characters like Dovahkiin too
>>341082130
How to kill walking rotten corpse?
>>341087527
The blue haired girl reminds me of Enforcer from Team Arena.
>>341087770
With explosives. Ranger learn that since Quake 1.>>341087962
>>341087717
I think they want to take the series seriously, so unlikely to mix characters from other games.
WHY ARE RANGER'S EYES SO FUCKING TINY. GOD DAMN.>they're going to give a voice to Ranger beyond HUUUUH and HEURGHH
>>341088184
He reminds me of Starcraft eww
>>341088184
>ITTY BITTY EYE BEADS
Fuck sake.
>>341088184
>He will sound like a gritty Trent Reznor.
>>341088184
>all his lines are various grunts
>>341087717
I don't know about BJ but Doomguy was in Quake 3 so I hope the 2016 Doomguy is in this one. His ability could be the double-jump but that could be OP
>It's another class based shooter
Another genre killed by Blizzard. Bravo. First WoW clones, now we have OW clones.
>>341088963
it's deathmatch
>>341082130
But will it have the Q3 announcer? D44M's is fucking horrid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DktldmPHo88
>>341088812
They already said Ranger's ability is that purple orb he threw and teleported to (supposedly based off how he telefragged Shub-niggurath in Q1, although that involved a giant metal spike ball).
>>341087196
I think he's trying to say
"CQ HU AA MK PE I O N S"
Must be some form of autism
>>341089097
>although that involved a giant metal spike ball
Same concept though. If anyone other than Ranger used it then no one would've made that connection.
>>341089173
perfect killing machine
blind autist rage is best weapon
>>341088963
Do I need to remind you that the original Team Fortress was actually a Quake mod?
>>341089243
It's a stretch as it is. Telefragging isn't unique to Ranger or even to Q1 for that matter. Or Quake period.
>>341089361
>Ranger teleports to the location of a ball
That's pretty specific.
>>341088184
Eternal Anglo
>>341089712
True, but I didn't even get the ref until someone else mentioned they said it in the after stream because I was thinking of the giant metal ball. The purple ball made me think more of Q3A's own (ball-less) personal teleporter pickup given that everything else was from Q3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSCrzEsskKg
Will it have the same levels of fast?
>>341090041
But Q3's Personal Teleporter ported them to a random location. As mentioned, if it wasn't Ranger who did it then there'd be no connection; context is key.
>>341089094
Hey, I like Vega.
>>341088680
I hope ridiculous jumping and taunting sounds are still here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6de3nqBpFs
>overwatch
>anime
explains the shills lmaoing hard
>>341090659
Vega sounds gay, at least Samuel sounds like Ultron
>>341089094
>id didn't work in DOOM multiplayer because they were busy with Quake.
It all makes sense know.
>>341090938
>RRRRRAAAAAAA
I hope they add Doomguy, BJ, andRageguy
>>341091659
Where's Commander Keen?
>>341093232
He is a kid, you psycko.
>>341093550
But he was already seen dying in a violent way and no one minded
>>341093790
Where? And don't put that part from Doom 2.
>>341094848
There was also NuDOOM with his skull on a spike, i mean, he's just a fictional character and what im thinking of is way better than shota stuff with him
All these classic FPS games is making me want this TF2 vs TFC update more than ever.
Hell, maybe Valve will blow everyone the fuck out of the water and announceDeathmatch 2
>>341082130
>>341086679
Looks like Visor got BLACKED.
>>341097469
>TF2 vs TFC update
?
>>341095257
I was hoping I wasn't wrong when I recognized that helmet. Just seemed like such a weird homage to him. But hey, it's something/
Holy shit Visor is a manlet?
>>341098682
Oh, the comic that we're now waiting for, what, a year for the next issue after a bunch of TFC mercs died?
I was thinking you meant there was a leak involving actual TFC content for the game itself.
>>341098932
Yes
>>341090938
Wtf is wrong with Slash?
>>341090938
it's good to be reminded that voice acting has come a long way since then
>>341083061
Woah.
>>341090659
>>341089094
I like VEGA too, after knowing it was VEGA.
>>341084084
It seems weird. You can pickup weapons, for example.
>>341086127
He looks more like Wrack
But apparently he actually is Sarge?
>>341102567
>>341086127
fuck
>>341098932
Visor's 6'4''
He's just lifting Ranger with the gauntlet
>>341102567
The character in the trailer was directly named Ranger by one of the devs, and certainly has (an ugly version of) Ranger's face, with Wrack's armor and two-tone helmet.
>>341103409
Ranger, that was the name
I fucking corrected some cunt about this yesterday and I already forgot, fuck me
>>341103201
Ranger's canonically one inch taller than Visor anyways
>>341082590
Still has matchmaking but we'll see about whether TF2 is improved from it
TF2 isn't dead, but sure as hell isn't getting anything good from Overhyp- I mean watch
Vid related, my nigga has a good observation on the whole thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2OETEIG-m8
>>341105454
>12 views
That's your video, isn't it.
Full class based is bad, but just one ability per character is kind of meaningless and detracts from the game as a whole.
Guess we'll have to see.
I'll maintain they should have gone the Samsara route, but I guess that kills duel.
>>341105454
>implying I'll ever use matchmaking
I'm not giving Valve my phone number, dammit.
here's hoping valve aren't total retards and acknoledge that the current from of 6v6 played in ETF2L and ESEA is the best and they need to put class limits in matchmaking
>>341109734
this is still a quake thread you silly person
i have no idea why people get this idea
just because a game is trying something NEW and INNOVATIVE(such as copying overwatch)they are a TF2 clone or a TF2 killer ?
>>341112125
It's ironic
>>341089094
that guy doesn't work for id anymore. However, he has offered to do the voiceover for Reflex.
>>341087527
Crash without a helmet
What does the actual quake community think of the prospects of a new entry in the quake franchise? Let's see...
>>341115389
>not using the shotgun
Nah.
>>341115389
It's actually a new character, they said so in an interview.
Ranger and Visor were the two that returned, pixie girl and juggernaut are new.
>>341116009
That last comment really hits home, and I think sums it up well.
>>341116009
>bottom post
>Q3A faggots thinking that's the only game that matters as usual because it's the only game they've ever been good at and can keep being good at because they've been playing for fifteen years
motherfuckers couldn't tell a shambler from their dick-hole
>>341082130
More like Quake killer
>>341116760
HO
LEE
SHIT
>>341099567
she the pinnacle of bioupgrades / transhumanism implants and the cyber punk attitude
>>341088680
IM A BIT MAN YES I AM AND I GOT A BIG GUN
>>341088184
"Piss off!"
>>341115389
Nope.
>>341116121
>someone actually remembers Q3 bots weapons preferences
I had seen it with UT fans, never with Quake's.
>>341116009
>>341116612
>>341116759
In the release thread they are actually mildly hyped
Also ESR is trash, kek
>>341116759
it was literally the best game, or are you some kind of wierd that things Quake 4 was good, or replayed singleplayer quake 1 and 2 over and over?
for me just the fact that bots in q3 could chat was revolutionary
now the "innovative" games just dumb down already-done concepts instead of bringing anything good
>>341116121
>Crash with underboob
YES
YES
>>341082130
that Lawbreaker game looked cool even if Cliffy B is a massive faggot
>>341117878
This
There still isn't a multiplayer shooter that has surpassed Q3A in a competitive sense
>>341117864
keel and xaero like rail, hunter wants shaft (heh), Major wants rockets I think. Don't know about the others.
![latest[11].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/COh5DIF.jpg "latest[11].jpg")
>>341118272
Crash had some fat ass titties and I hope they keep it that way.
>>341118403
stop it
someone will bring up cancer strike or another generic slow realistic game
>>341116759
I know right? Like calm the fuck down son.
Hell some of the mechanics for 3 were "dumbed down" too.
>>341117878
Quake 4 was 3 with buttsliding.
>>341118403
CPM
>>341118272
It's almost there >>341118594http://i.imgur.com/nvrMmWB.png
>>341082130
Nope
It might finish off quake live tho, its the fastest fps in ages
>>341117878
Not him but is there something wrong with enjoying Q1/2/Expansions singleplayers?
>>341118594
>his waifu isn't hunter
dude
>>341118403
CPMA?
>>341082130
I hope there will be DoomGuy with his Super Shotgun for primary weapon.
>>341118849
That game mode is way too fast IMO
Fastest way to get carpal tunnel
>>341119021
those are allright but you dont replay the same game forever after you finished it right? Quake 3 (or Live) is the must-try multiplayer version of quake and getting decent against actual humans is way more enjoyable and quite the experience when you realise all the stuff YOU can do
>>341119424
I highly doubt it.
Also it doesn't seem like the characters have loadouts. Not specific to them, at least.
>>341116009
I've played quake with Zlr
>>341119321
>6'7" and almost 200 lbs
I can't handle that much woman.
>>341118594
Crash is perfect, though.
>tfw Crash and the others probably won't show up in Q:G and even if they do they'll be changed heavily and look retarded like Ranger
>Mynx DEFINITELY won't be back
>>341118403
quakeworld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrJNuve1-Lk
>>341118594
Those thighs are godlike, too.
>>341119658
You act like Quake 1 doesn't have multiplayer or if there's a huge difference between Q1 and Q3A's multiplayer other than the railgun.
>>341088184
He's like a white gorilla, he barely looks human. Way past DEADLIFT MCSQUATS territory
>>341118594
If she isn't wearing a bra, those are the perkiest tits in the universe
>>341118594
I want to peek up Crash's boobskirt
Why does no art of this exist
>>341120217
RANGER HARDTACK
BEEFCAKE QUAKEGUY
BULKBACK NAILHEAD
SQUADS "QUAD DAMAGE" MCPOUNDCAKE
HEFTY ROMERO
>>341084945
Confirmed abilities so far
>wallhack
>teleporty hadouken
>blink
>invincible(?) charge
>>341120576
BULK "SQUAT DAMAGE" MCLARGE
>>341120334
No one in an arena FPS wears a bra. Are you nuts?
>>341121104
STRAFEJUMP OATSQUATBUNNYHOP to his friends
Class based is a little worry some but if it's kind of like Timesplitters where there's just some stat differences and 1-2 abilities unique to each champion while keeping the classic gunplay it could be good. They just need to add Mutators to allow for no abilities for purists.
>>341119763
>it doesn't seem like the characters have loadouts
So what's the difference between characters?
SriHead OVERWATCH SriHead KILLER SriHead
>>341122134
Character specific powers, like Ranger having that ball he can cast and teleport to its location, or Visor being able to look through walls.
>>341120207
>You act like there's a huge difference between Q1 and Q3A's multiplayer other than the railgun.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>341119952
more awesome quake stuffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PADrkFefaTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lVW7WGwj7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i77n9zMkU3c
>>341120207
theres a huge difference
quake 3 multiplayer was done in collaboration with top quake 1 and 2 players to keep balance in mind
>>341122428
Alright, I did not know, it's really different of TF and Overwatch in this case.
>>341122461
explain
>>341122751
balance is literally just number tweaks that can be applied to any game
>>341122751
but quake has some of the worst weapon balance in the entire genre
>>341082130
the tf2 killer is overwatch
the only thing somewhat similar to quake that is still alive and well is 6v6 TF2
if you dont believe me just watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgkOZL8nVvk
Hope they include Orbb or Bones
>>341120537
>>341116009
Quake died cause the community killed it.
Frankly, I'd love a new Quake 3, but there are only two outcomes for that
>Make Quake 3 exactly like the old one
>"but why wouldn't we just play Quake 3?"
>Make something slightly different
>"It's not Quake 3, I'm not playing this."
>>341123357
It has all of 3(THREE) useful weapons!
Still better than UT's 1(one) shock rifle
Tf2 = Bernie
Overwatch = hillary
This game = trump
Overwatch is going to win, period. This game is going to be forgotten.
>>341124112
A remake with the exact same gameplay could work.
>>341123824
Must haves:
>Ranger
>Bitterman
>Sarge
>Doomguy
>Anarki
>Slash
>Hunter
>Sorlag
>Klesk
>Uriel
>Tank Jr.
>Orbb
>Bones
>>341124749
They tried that with QL.
>>341124749
They already did that twice.
>>341120537
Just imagine this but with armr
>>341124749
No it wouldn't.
Besides, frankly, I just want Quake 3 with slight changes. I want Quake 3 where strafe jumping isn't needed because everyone's walk speed is that fast by default.
I want Quake 3 where using movement options doesn't cost my health including fall damage.
>>341125105
>I just want a dumbed down Quake 3
>>341124590
TF2 = great casual game with huge competitive potential and community, ignored by the devs similarly to Smash
Overwatch = TF2/moba inspired casual game that they are trying to sell as competitive
This game = id software hiring Halo devs again to murder yet another classic FPS franchise
>>341125304
I could fucking tell you something unrelated to Quake like "moss always points North" and then put the word 'Quake' into it and you'd just responded with "dumbed down" or "casual"
>>341124978
I need this but with Crash and Hunter.
>>341124909
I was implying with modern graphisms, of course QL failed because it looks like anti-aliasing early 2000's instead of 2009 graphism. I'm talking about Quake 3 but with Doom 2016 engine.
>>341125765
No, you couldn't. I like the idea of character-specific abilities in Quake, believe it or not. I do not like removing strafe jumping just because little /v/ermin trash can't do it.
What is known
>You can play as different Champions, each Champion will have different abilities and attributes
>You can pick up weapons
>Classic Quake 3 weapons are back
What we're unsure about
>Loadouts may or may not be in
>Each class may start with their own specialty weapon, example: ranger, shotgun, visor, railgun, this is just guessing from the cinematic trailer though, I feel like it was just strongly hinted at
>Two weapon limit is not confirmed but possible
>>341126167
What's the purpose of strafe jumping if you can just go the same speed by default?
>>341126497
whats the point of having fun with movement when you can just press 1 key
>>341126167
I'll agree with the first part, but rocket Jumping should always stay in.
>>341105454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9RjDRLBWio
Nice game you got there, forget actually focusing on game play, focus on making money
>>341123692
tf2 is shit. You spend more time reloading than fucking shooting. One of the worst fps games i've played.
>>341126497
Strafe jumping is not just moving at a given speed, you accelerate as you go. The faster you go the less control you have. You can't dodge while in the air. Jumping creates noise, alerting enemies to your location.
It also spawned a whole new way to play the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T6IAHWMd2I
>>341127161
the core gameplay has barely been touched. if anything improved in complexity in its competitive form since valve made weapon switch faster and buffed medic a bit. ( we still ban shitloads of weapons and use classlimits in 6v6 unlike shitty ass valve matchmaking)
>>341127296
yes, reloading could be a hassle from a quake's player point of view but that hasn't stopped many quake players to love this game, specially on north america with carnage, blight, relic ....
of course if you never played 6v6 you do not know how fun TF2 can actually be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VBSXYuOkms
>>341123168
>>341123357
The original Quakeworld has quite a few radical differences in the weapons available and the way they function (the dmg they do and so on) that result in quakeworld being more suited for TDM (4v4 on big maps) and Quake 3 being more suited for Duel. In Quake 3 every weapon can be viable in its given situation. Yes, grenades, plasma and shotgun too. And the spawning weapon (machine gun) is very strong as well, at least if you compare it to the spawning weapon in quakeworld. In Quakeworld, the rocket launcher and the lightning gun are ridicoulusly overpowered. They outperform the other weapons by such a strong margin it's not even funny. Other ressources on the map (mainly armors) are really strong as well. An experienced TDM player with a rocket launcher, sufficient amount of ammo and a red or yellow armor can amass tens of frags before he dies. But the fun thing is, it's still more profitable for the enemy team to rush him and give him these frags and eventually take him down, because it allows them to access more ressourses. The facts that the ressources on the map are so strong, the spawning weapon is so weak and weapons on the map take 30 seconds to respawn put a big emphasis on staying in control (making sure your own team and not the enemy team pick up the armors or one of the important weapons). Watch the second link in >>341122461
Keeping control of weapons and armors is less important in Q3 TDM, because (1) the armors are weaker (2) RL and LG are weaker and other weapons are stronger (3) the spawn gun is quite strong. This makes Q3 TDM more chaotic and more suited for duel (Quakeworld duel on the other hand is not very exiting to watch at all, the rocket launcher is so strong it's a huge campfest).
>>341083495
If I pulled off that mask... would he die?
>>341082130
I wonder why they chose Visor.
>>341123357
What? It's near the best. No weapon is as broken as Q1's rockets, Q2's rail, UT's shock and flak.
Though I guess UT did get better down the line, but still
>>341129326
Yeah you've got it about right. QuakeWorld 4v4 is really nice but duels on Aerowalk are mind numbingly boring to watch. Rockets and LG all day.
>>341129326
>campfest
I was watching this small youtuber play the game and they didn't camp at all.
Also while Quake 3's TDM is not more chaotic than QW's at all. Particularly if we're talking Live
>>341116009
Hey Quake bros, UT fag here. I just want you to know that however the next Quake turns out, even if it's the worst possible homogenized abomination of Overwatch, Doom 4 and TF2, we'll be there for moral support so you don't hang yourself in your bathroom, and instead have someone to share war stories with. The veterans of old wars must stick together. It's no substitute, but you will always have UT to turn to if shit hits the fan, and vice versa. Keep your chin up, it's not the end of the world just yet.
>>341130037
He's one of the coolest looking Q3 models.
>>341130089
Sometimes I wonder why are there even other weapons on the map.
Never played Quake seriously, would playing the new Doom's multiplayer make me better at this new game's multiplayer?
>>341133468
>would playing the new Doom's multiplayer make me better at this new game's multiplayer?Absolutely not.
>>341133468
Considering none of us has seen any gameplay of Quake Champions?Yes, playing any FPS will help your aim in any other FPS
>>341133468
There's no gameplay out there yes. Assuming it is like the older Quakes, yes. It's faster than other modern FPS, there's no reloading, and they have really emphasized that getting powerups if fucking important. Like goddamn they are Q1 levels of broken.
But yeah it helps.
arena fps killer
>>341134340
ayyy
>>341105454
Advertising (all forms) is not welcome—this includes any type of referral linking, "offers", soliciting, begging, stream threads, etc.
i just don't even know anymore
>>341135698
get another hobby
>>341123692
garbage.
just play rocket arena on q3 or clan wars on live
>>341125105
strafe jumping not needed?
kill yourself faggot.
>>341128110
the only way to play quake involves strafing jumping
Or else casul
>>341121058
>wallhack
what were they thinking?
I knew it i knew they didnt have the balls to revisit quake 1s world so they just grabbed onto quake 3s legacy
>>341125105
>I want Quake 3 where strafe jumping isn't needed because everyone's walk speed is that fast by default.
>I want Quake 3 where using movement options doesn't cost my health including fall damage.
No way you can have these opinions and "want Quake 3"
Strafe jumping is a mechanic that emulates stride/momentum. It's not a run button.
>>341133468
To get used to this style of FPS yes.
Then you'll need to learn movement tricks (they have playable tutorials in Quake Live but I think there are free games with strafe-jumping and similar things)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76UNcuKSVY
Being faster, learning the maps and to predict the position of the opponents will come with time.
And if it is good, don't buy the new one months after release.
>>341097586
Are you blind? They're the same color.
>>341137683
daily reminder than quake is the best fps ever created, and all others are inferior
>>341137782
It is just me, or the original Visor had his skin rotting?
>>341125105
"That fast"
Strafejumping doesn't have a set speed. What makes it enjoyable is the feeling of acceleration.
>>341137658
Fall damage is definitely trash in the way Q3 implemented it.
>>341090375
Its PC only so there is a chance at least.
>>341136342
you dont even know what ur talking about buddy, 6v6 meta is pretty cool if you actually try it
clan arena is just holding an area because its the best area to hold, in tf2 you actually hold capture points wich are the objective
So does class-based basically mean no deathmatch?
This might actually be cool.
Of course, everyone is bitching about this game for some reason, even though, every arena shooter that has released in the past 10 years has been a massive failure *because* it follows the stale old formula. God forbid they try to push the genre forward for once.
Quake Live was a failure. Reflex was a failure. Toxikk was a failure. Unreal reboot is a failure. But hey, if you're threatened by change, you have 4 games you can go play with the other hundred people that still play them.
>>341139865
Deathmatch already confirmed.
>>341139939
>Unreal reboot is a failure
That's not even came out.
>>341105454
TF2 is dead.
99% of the playerbase comprises of AFKs, botters, ERPers, and literal children. It's rare to find a good populated classic server these days without all the bullshit.
>>341139367
im not talking about the 6v6 meta, im talking about the tf2 reload your guns gameplay. fucking shit.
>no rail guns
>no twitch shots
>no wall boucning
>strafejump loops around the map
>no verticality
fuck out of here
>>341141990
>railgun
>good
>no twitch shots
lol
>no verticality
lol
>>341109734
damn i miss battlefield heroes
>>341140023
Class-based deathmatch is going to be pretty odd.
>>341140892
Please. It's been free for all to play for over a year now.
>>341140892
Whether you call it a release, early access, beta, alpha, pre-alpha, network test, stress test, sneak peak or whatever doesn't matter.
The game's out and completely playable.
And no one gives a fuck.
>playing Dirty Bomb right now to get my FPS fix
>new quake coming out
If they don't fuck it up and the bullets/rockets/whatever go where you aim and they don't have any sort of "hehe insta melee kill animation if I get close to you" bullshit in it, I'm in.
>>341144696
I hope the melee is actually fun to use now
>new quake gets announced
>its an theme park overwatch clone that at best will maybe pull some overwatch players over for a month before they just go back to playing overwatch
>Bethesda will take this as "welp looks like no one is interested in quake."
I hate video games.
Why does Blizzard always stagnate the market so badly?
>4/v/ hyped for new quake
>Liked Doom 4
I know I have been gone for a bit but I never expected that.
>>341145114
Calm down, we haven't even seen gameplay yet.
>>341145746
Not hyped, but I guess people are willing to give id the benefit of the doubt given that Doom 4 was pretty fun
>>341146161
I could be wrong but I would bet all the money in my checking account right now that what I described is what will happen when it releases.
>>341139939
This.
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
>wahhh it's not a classic arena shooter it's too casual
Meanwhile in classic arena shooter land.
Instead of bitching, why not just admit that you don't enjoy video games anymore? That's closer to the truth.
>>341090375
I heard in an interview it has strafe jumping rocket jumping and air control so fingers crossed
>>341146726
You're right that maybe people cling too much to making it like the classic ones
But did it absolutely HAVE to fucking be a mobalike like Overwatch?
>>341144428
for a small amount of people, because the graphics are intense.
its pre-alpha
>>341147494
This would be a good thread for talking about what we could do to to reinvigorate arena shooters because it's clear that neo gamers don't like arena shooters and vets are bored of them.
Did they have to add abilities and potentially different classes with varying health and speed values? No, but it's definitely a start.
I haven't seen too many ideas to modernize arena shooters, especially games that have even tried any new ideas. Certainly D44M's modernization of MP was for the worst.
What about Lawbreakers? That seems like a fresh idea but it's borderline mobalike like Overwatch.
