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Has he got a point?
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>dat backpedaling
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>>341076369
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>>341076369

>putting his opinions as facts and wondering why people are saying he is shit
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>>341076369
Pearl clutch somewhere else, shithead.

If all you see in an action game is "killing a bunch a people" then you're choosing to ignore context.
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>>341076369
>gross

How old is this guy?
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>>341077173
How did he post them as facts? They clearly just opinions.
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Talented devs make interesting games.

As it so happens, no one at E3 this year is talented.
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>by an obviously true statement?

jesus, I can smell the smug from all the way over here
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>>341077425
An opinion isn't "a true statement", it's an opinion
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>>341076369
these faggots keep whining because video games are always about beating and/or shooting the fuck out of people but I've never seen one of them come up with other ideas that weren't shitty walking simulators

>I am not saying anything about video games causing violence of not
what's the problem then you fucking dipshit, there are some games out there that don't involve killing people, if you can't enjoy those either just stop playing video games and do something else, there is so much stuff you can spend your time on but instead you're forcing yourself to play/screech about video games you don't seem to enjoy

fuck off already
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>>341077425
>by an obviously true statement
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>>341077425

the part where he says

>by an obviously true statement
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>>341077707
I didn't even see that tweet, i'm a fucking idiot.
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>>341077425
He literally called his opinion an obviously true statement are you blind
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>>341077425

>Why are so threatened by an obviously true statement?
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>>341076369
Why should he be the arbiter of what kinds of fantasies are or aren't 'gross'? I think scat stuff seems gross, but I wouldn't give a damn whether or not video game companies catered to scat fetishists or not. Just because I find it repugnant doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. The exception might be child porn stuff. I heard somewhere that that sort of stuff is more likely to make pedos molest kids than keep them from molesting kids.
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>>341076369
I think he blows something else aside from Jonathan
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>>341077820
>>341077821
Yeah I fucked up>>341077896
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Post games that aren't murder simulators. Here, I'll start.

Blow can relate to Rusty, I'm sure.
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I'd rather play a game where you murder people over a line puzzle book.
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>>341078285
Jackie Chan
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>>341076369
It is pretty fuckin' cool, though
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>>341077239
>implying basement dwellers on a Lao etching board are more mature than a guy who runs his own game studio
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hey, guess what, I have testicles

I quite like playing games where I murder niggas
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>>341078285
Any of the dozens of stealth games where you can beat it by only stunning enemies instead of killing them.
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>>341076369
>why do people make murder fantasies fun
>actually tweets that he enjoys playing shooters
He deserves all the shit he's getting for that bullshit.
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>>341078604
The most worthless camo paint application ever
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>>341076369
>Like, is it so hard to at least allow a question about whether something is a good idea?

I wasn't aware being called an ignorant jackass for trying to pass off ignorant opinions was making it "difficult" to ask questions.

>>341078687
At least we aren't trying to be the pontificates of morality.
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>>341077442
I laughed way harder than this idea deserved, but it's sort of true. The industry (maybe all culture) is stuck in a creative rut where nothing is happening. No one in power has a sincere vision that isn't about printing normiebux or pushing a political agenda.
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Post Notchs response
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>I'm saying, if you enjoy fantasizing about stabbing people in the neck, that is kind of gross
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>>341076369
>20 years ago, radical conservatives wanted to get rid of video games
>now, radical left wingers want to get rid of video games
what the fuck happened
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I'm not fantasizing, only simulating. Are actors gross too?
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>>341076369
wow.. really makes you think
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but what if I like killing people?
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>>341076369

I do infact fantasize about stabbing blow in the neck.

But I expect thats common
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Why does he even make games then? Get out of the industry if you hate it so much.

Did you guys know that violence happened before video games existed? Weird, right?
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I like to read. It's probably the only hobby I spend as much time on as vidya.

When I was about 16 I read Don Quixote. It was my father's favorite novel, and so I read it, and enjoyed it. It was a bit of a slog at parts, after all it's a 400 year old Spanish novel translated into English with 3-4 footnotes on every page. I still laughed a lot and was surprised at how well the humor holds up. It's a fucking important piece of the history of literature and deserves respect...

When I was in college I took a literature class as a blow off. Something to pad out my average and unwind, since I had always loved reading. The teacher (who introduced herself as a feminist on the first day) asked us what our favorite novels were.

Now, back then I was a little insecure. I was 19, in a new city with new people, so I wanted to sound smart. I said Don Quixote. The real answer at the time was Snow Crash, but I thought mentioning such a classic might make me seem smart. It was pretentious and I've grown up since then, but that's what I did, sue me.

The teacher went into a ten minute long condescending discussion about how problematic Don Quixote is. How worthless it was. How the fulcrum of its comedy was laughing at a man who is suffering from delusions, and how him being the subject of comedy is damaging to the mentally ill. She tore down an important piece of the history of literature because it didn't fit within her modern liberal sensibilities. It didn't matter that the book had so much more, in her mind it was garbage because the joke was a mental illness the author couldn't have even known existed.

These people are fucking maniacs so detached from reality they might as well fight some racist windmills.
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>>341079573
Nothing. Radicals despise all forms of media and expression because they are a vehicle for ideas that are not their own. And they wish to quash those opposing ideas so that theirs are the only ones and can be forced upon others.

This is true no matter where they fall on a political spectrum
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>>341076369
>>341079369
https://twitter.com/notch/status/742254757864038400
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>>341076369
Fictional Morality is a thing, there is nothing weird or twisted about it.
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>>341076369
What a typical beta faggot.
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>>341076369
>dat gradual backdown
Until what he's saying is completely aside from what he once said.
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>>341078803
The games still have killing in them, doesn't count.
Burger Time doesn't count because the burgers used to be cows and they were killed.
Tetris doesn't count because you're mercilessly destroying those blocks.
Dance Dance Revolution doesn't count because you're killing it on the dance floor.
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>>341076369
Is this even real?
I wouldn't normally say something like this, but holy shit what a fucking cuck.
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>So far EA has been the only ones not wear those rainbow ribbons

That's some pottery right there
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Fuck guys, after playing Braid I feel completely amazing. I crushed some dudes head in and then reversed time over and over to do it again and again. This is a great game to appeal to sadists such as myself :D
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>>341076369
>gross

that's the SJW word
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>>341079573
It's funny how quick it looped from everyone kicking out Jack Thompson with "We want our violent games! It's just pixels, it can't hurt you" to Anita "Remove this filth, it shames women" right back to "This game is violent, we're raising mass murders! Ban this shit" but all the journalist just go along with it without realizing the irony
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>>341079573
The liberal cuckold movement happened.
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>>341079271
What you call pushing a political agenda is only seen negatively because it's done poorly, in a crass and blunt manner. If a work raises questions and then answers them it's not necessarily pushing an agenda, just getting the author's own opinion or worldview across to an audience.
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Written like a true shithead, but yeah, pretending to kill people is a mildly fucked up hobby to have.

I'm even willing to bet that there is in fact some shaky correlation between video games and IRL killstreaks, just like there's a correlation between gluten and some people shitting their brains out. You have to have something weird going on in your ass to be suscepitble.

Still, it's wicked cool
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>>341076369
but i don't fantasize about that kinda stuff
i just like vidyagames
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>>341079904
Damn. My English teacher just let us watch movies in class since he was a reviewer.
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>>341080102
>you will never shitpost and laugh at retards on twitter with notch while stuffing your face with the mountain of candy he has in his mansion
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>>341080513
Oceania was always at war with Eurasia.
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>>341076369

I wanna stab that cunt in the neck. How much of a bitch do you have to be to make these kinds of posts and actually believe them? Geez.
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>>341076369
>People like things I dont like. Waaaahhhh!!
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>>341080469
>I have to exclusively use subjective language when discussing an objective "fact," because everything I say is just vague justification for my agenda, with no regard given to the details of how or why I come to my conclusions.
These people literally use the [STEP 1, ???, PROFIT!] formula.
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>>341079904
I respect you because you actually read El Quijote,Anon
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>>341080227
>Dance Dance Revolution doesn't count because you're killing it on the dance floor.
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>Implying Braid wasn't a fluke.
>Implying Jonathan Blow wasn't always a pretentious numale on a high horse.
Link related:
http://insomnia.ac/reviews/xbox360/braid/page_01.php
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I want to punch Blow so hard.

And Jesus Christ, that last name is just so limp-wristingly faggy.
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>>341080852
This is reversing the chain of events. People who are already fucked up might enjoy killing people in video games then graduate to actual killings.

But correlation is not causation.
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>>341079573
sjws happened but according to some in /v/(don't know where they're really from)
Sjws are just a boogeyman
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>>341079904
I worry about the next generation of English professors. The only ones that are cool are the really old ones that care about teaching historically significant and influential works, and what is good prose. And those ones are retiring and dying off.

If only profs could choose their successors.
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>>341081791
>Not that you'd know.
Based fat guy.
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>>341076369
i think anyone that wants to talk about ethics of video game violence needs to beat drakengard
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>>341081791
I wanna retire and just shitpost on twitter all day
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTdgHsifK38
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>Not that you'd know
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>Hey guise Im gonna talk about vdya developers making mass murder fantasy games in teh wake of an actual mass murder in the same country and then wonder why some people might take issue with the timing

Jonathon, if you're reading this, you're a fucking faggot.
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>>341080785
It is an issue of bad writing/world design, with zero subtlety or nuance. They may as well have morality tutorials, secular sermons on the word of the crowd as truth and light to lead the way.
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>>341076369
>Demeaning the death of 50 people to push your garbage political beliefs on the public, then not even being able to stand beside your turd.

Wow what a fucking faggot. Fucker doesn't care about the people that died, he just cares about people liking what he doesn't like.
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>>341081791
Fucking Notch. Living the dream
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>>341081791
wow Notch is really handing the BTFOs left and right.
how can one person be so based.
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>>341082339
We all do, man.
We all do.
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>>341076678
>that reading copmprehension
At no point did he backpedal
That being said i disagree with him, there's nothing wrong with having fun killing people in a video game
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>>341081791
I really like notch now that he's retired.
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>>341081791
Holy fuck.
Blow is going to need medical attention after being rekt that hard.
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>>341076369
If he thinks his first statement, and his last statement have anything to do with each other, then maybe it HIM who has something wrong
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>>341076369
His last name is Blow.

He has no credibility.
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>>341081791

Based notch, singlehandedly saving Sweden from complete cuckoldry.
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Liberals are the people who are more offended and worried about people killing digital humans in a video game than muslims/non-whites murdering people in real life because one of those things conflicts with their obnoxious world view and the other doesn't.
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>>341081481
You remember wrong anon, Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

are you a spy anon? Thoughtpolice says you are
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>>341080102
blown
the
fuck
out
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>>341077239
>gross

Why do you guys get so triggered by this word.
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>>341081791
did he hire someone to do twitter for him? He never had a sense of humor before last week
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>>341076369
>Like,

is he a 16 year old girl?
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>>341079904
Did you read anything by Doyle? Currently reading The Sign of the Four. Shit is great.
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>>341082596
>how can one person be so based.

He doesn't have to worry abour upsetting some PC faggot SJWs who michgt try to get him fired.

So he can basically say exactly what he thinks with no fucks given.

I envy notch. With all those billions, comes freedom from Politically Correct slavery.
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>>341083169
Yeah, I've been wondering the same thing. The tweets are great now, but the change was so sudden.
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>>341080102
>Don't drag me into your mire of intentional delusion.
Beautiful.
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Who the fuck is Johnathan Blow?
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>>341083169
>He never had a sense of humor before last week

Notch isn't joking.He's stating facts.
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>>341082787
Also, games don't sell the mass murder fantasy. They sell the treasure hunter fantasy. They sell the espionage fantasy. At "worst" they sell a war fantasy. Only one game in recent memory sold the mass murderer fantasy, and that was hatred. That games got tons of shit. So I don't understand how he can say that.
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>>341081791
While I appreciate the burn, the two statements:
>Studios are working hard to build fantasies about how cool it is to be a mass murderer
>Studios want to make money and make games people want
are not in any way in opposition. If JBlow was trying to imply that it is the studios who are pushing their agenda of violence and murder than Notch's comment would be accurate, but I'm not sure JBlow was implying any sort of causality here.
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>>341083751
Guy who made ONE (1) good game by accident and now believes he is the messiah of video games as an art form.
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nothing wrong with that
killing people is a lot of fun. im sure the kebab had a blast killing those faggots
or atleast, he would had if they didnt killed him before he armed the bomb.
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Man I like JBlow and his games but he sure does say some dumb shit sometimes.
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>>341083751

He spent ten years making a grid puzzle game for mobile devices.
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>>341076369
All the people that say this kind of shit always forget to mention movies, books and even music, all of which glorify violence. Millions of people love Game of Thrones and the Marvel movies, both of which have gratuitous levels of violence and wanton destruction but yeah, lets not talk about that, ITS THE VIDEOGAMES.
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>>341076369
Has there ever been a more accurate last name for a person?

Also, what is the fuck is going on with pic related? Are the jews finally coming to take me away?
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>>341081791
That "review" is setting off my Poedar something fierce.
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Killing people is manly.
Men play video games.
Despite being losers, they can't deny their nature.
Therefore, they enjoy stimulating their inherent manliness by killing in video games.

Not that a limp-wristed fuck like Blow would know anything about manliness.
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>>341076369
>that thing you like is icky
Kinda like suckin dicks, like OP/blow.
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>>341076369
>you live in a time era where full horseshoe effect is in place

Where my late 20's/early 30's bros at?

Remember when batshit conservatives were the ones concernes with vidya violence and nudity.

How the tables have turned.
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>>341081791
What a legend
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>>341076369

I take the opinions of random people on twitter very seriously, more so than I do actual scientific studies.
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>>341076369
Wow. He seriously went into damage control and walked his position back since yesterday.

Have you niggers been fucking with him?
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>>341083124
Because it's emotionally charged that masquerades as rational criticism and it also is phrased as such to shift the burden of antagonistic blame away from the offended individual and toward the subject they are criticizing.

It's people with problems trying to say they're fine, and it's just fine things that have the problem.

I get "triggered" by it because it's sophistry at it's worst.
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>>341083523
Nigga, I know you didn't just compare pulp adventure serials to Don Quixote.

Doyle is pretty good so long as you understand that what you are reading has no real significance or social commentary in it. I liked The Lost World a lot more than most Holmes stories
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this is actually kinda.... true...
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>>341079904
this totally happened.

with every bullshit post like this, you just fuel the alt-right retard fire please stop
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>>341082596
>That dirty Notch! I'm going to call his employer right now to get him fired for disa--oh wait
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I love to murder.
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>>341076369
Does he harp on violent movies and tv shows? If not then he's a faggot
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>>341081983
That's why I selected the term I did.

I also don't think that mass shooters use video games as a subsitute for what they really want. They were probably already immersed in video games, action movies or gun culture long before they developed a politic or psychosis that leads to real violence.

I'm just saying that there's probably a social price for all the things we personally enjoy, that we can't justifiably deny to those people who it might be unhealthy for. Same as everything else in the world ever.
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>>341084551
The author was a convicted felon who fled from the US and hid the content of his website behind a paywall. He's rumored to had died in a car crash last year. He was vocally critically about SJWs (he called them artfags though) and game journos long before GamerGate was thing though.
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>mass shooting happens
>immediately jump on twitter to try to shame people for liking vidya
What goes through these peoples brains and hearts is beyond me.
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>>341079904
That'a a very illustrative story, thanks for writing it.
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>>341083169
A man has been uncucked
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>>341085196
they get attention for doing it
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>>341085196
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>>341083123
>>341081791

He's crafting a mine...inside my heart.
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>>341081791
Notch is great
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>>341084747
You're right anon, JBlow does have a point. As a child I was never interested in gun violence, nor glorifying police officers/soldiers for shooting bad guys until I played video games. Honestly, playground games like Cowboys and Indians and Cops and Robbers were probably based on some obscure NES game or some shit.
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>>341076369

He's just mad that no one wanted to play his pretentious grid puzzle game.
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>>341076369

Not at all, fucking pussies removed so far away from their nature they're unfit for human beings.
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>>341085196
>>341085416
KEKS
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>>341085416
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>>341084530
You've been chosen anon

10837443 THE KING COME DOWN
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>>341085438
>trading bants with fucking rock cock 64
holy fuck
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>>341085196
>>341084747
bodies ain't even cold yet and already the spin crews are hard at work

fucking vultures
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>>341085196
I to hate how WWI glorified guns. Why couldn't we have a WWI game were we hold hands and hug the enemy until the war is over. Historical accuracy be damned.
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>>341077804
i think he's trying to say that people who enjoy violent video games are people who fantasize about violence. even if they don't act on their violent fantasies he is morally superior to them because he doesn't enjoy violent video games.
i think he's wrong.
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https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/742311630520909825
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>>341085628
>pretend it didn't happen
>every presenter so far has been wearing ribbons and expressing condolences
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>>341085196
People use tragedies all the time to push their agenda. Politicians escpecially It's fucking disgusting
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>>341085416
>>341085196
>>341084747

You know what I did after the shooting? I PLAYED A SHOOTING GAME. No amount of real life murder will ever make shooting games not fun. One of the biggest games at E3 right now is a shooting game that glorifies the deaths of real people in history. GO BE FAGGOTS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
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>>341082662
He backpedaled a whole lot and then contradicted himself on it later like most of diseased faggots like him.
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>>341076369
lots of people enjoy violence, which is why violent games are popular. and violent movies, violent books, etc. the fact society isn't a bloodbath proves that most of those are good people who can control themselves in everyday life. and even then, most of violent games have the pretence of some acceptable context (like fighting an alien invasion) specifically because people don't like doing the wrong thing even in video games.

being good or bad is not about your feelings, it's about having control of yourself. the only people who want to push the idea that having bad thoughts or feelings is equivalent to actually doing something bad are control-freaks who want to police your mind.
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>>341076369
so many pussy indiedevs trying to cater to the sjw crowd
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I'm pretty sure Notch just hired some witty dude to ghostshitpost under his name.

Notch NEVER had a sense of humor, and his grasp of English is just slightly above par, not enough to make puns and jokes of this caliber.
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>>341080785
An opinion or worldview could be called an agenda too, but only if you disagree with it
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He would have a point if the Orlando shooting had ANYTHING to do with video games, but it didn't. It had to do with homophobia brought on by religion.
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>>341085881
SJW's always act shocked that the video game industry doesn't immediately shut down after every shooting
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I dunno. I mean, playing Skyrim never made it seem like getting into a fight with a bear would be super fun but it did make me want to beat the shit out of Todd Howard. It could go either way.
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>>341086076
LOL, this.
This shit is getting way too much attention from the video game market.
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>>341085628
>they could be helping the families of those affected and actually accomplish something
>instead they will blame videogames

Why even bother pretending like you give a shit then?
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>>341085196
#FullMcintosh is at it again.
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>>341078438
>>341076369
Had to look up who the fuck this was and why its allowed on /v/. Glad I didn't buy the Witness. I was planning on it, then figured I'd wait for reviews. A lot of people didn't seem to like it so I decided not to get it. Fuck people like this.
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These actually seem like pretty reasonable assumptions if you ask me.
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>>341079904
I'm going to reply to this with memes. Well earned.
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>>341084747
movies, books, and tv shows all glorify gun violence.

>I like shooter games, but have zero appetite for them after events like this

it's not like they've been planning E3 for months, and they aren't going to change anything just because there was a mass shooting. Yeah, it sucks. People died. People were hurt. Shit happens.

it's like saying:
>how could they have not seen this shooting coming??? wtf gamerz???

if it didn't happen no one would be making these asinine tweets about muh shooterz = violence
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>>341084678

Because a lot of neckbeards have been described as 'gross' and it triggers them
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I guess it's nice video games give people an outlet so they might they deal with their violent urges through catharsis, rather than, you know, act it in real life.
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Video games allow you to shoot people without harming them.
If everyone in real life was an immortal being we would be shooting at each other all the time just for shit and giggles.
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>>341086076
But anon, killing soldiers in WWI in the new Battlefield trailer is just like a terrorist shooting up a Gay club in Florida. How can you be so blind to see the similarities!
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Over three thousand people died as a direct result of the existence of CARS just in the last twenty four hours.

And here we have these INCONSIDERATE WHITE MEN ADVERTISING THE NEXT FORZA GAME, FEATURING CARS. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN SCRAPED OFF THE ROAD YET AND YOU'RE ALREADY MAKING A GAME ABOUT IT. I AM BEYOND TRIGGERED.
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>cecil the lion is kill
>go to zoo to cheer myself up
>see lions in cages
What the fuck zoo industry? How can you promote this senseless violence?
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>>341085971
I'm not even mad desu
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>>341084825
>if it doesn't fit my narrative then it's obviously bullshit post

Nobody fuels the alt-right fire harder than retards like you
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>>341086617
I'd be mad too if something used as an insult was used as pseudo-intellectual criticism.
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>>341080469

Great now I have to make sure I don't use that in a post so I don't get a million SJWWWWWWWWWW replies
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>>341079993
eloquently put anon
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>>341084747
>muslim born and raised in the states is radicalised and murders gays in the name of his religion
>"Well guys, I think we all know what needs to be criticised after this tragedy....
>"video games"
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>>341084747
why have ellipses become the calling card of mega retards
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>>341081791
I thought notch is a sjw. And a real one.
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>>341081791

All that shit /v/ talked(talks) and I have nothing but respect for his sick burns.
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>>341078687
>The Witness
>Game

Pick one
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Oh shut the fuck up, Blow.

The only real talents you have are concealing your obscenely conceited and pretentious nature a bit better than others that are just as conceited and pretentious as you are. Also, you have some skill at picking decent artists and musicians to make your games appealing to a decent degree. You struggle constantly from becoming forgotten on a daily basis because you're the poor man's Molyneux and guess what? He dropped out.

Follow suit.
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>people unable to compartmentalize
>drag their conversation of a tragedy into everything
I doubt any of these people have ever had any interaction in the orlando lgbt scene, let alone had anyone they know die in the shooting.
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>>341083124
>>341086617
>le trigger meme

literally any and everything is a "trigger" now. People figured out that "u mad?" is the perfect thing to say. Either they are, and they lose, or they aren't, and get mad trying to prove they aren't. Hell, you can even try it with "triggered". The more they say "i'm not triggered" the more you can say they're a creepy obsessed weirdo harassing you.
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>>341087149
because it's the laziest way to add emphasis to a sentence
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>>341087143
it wasn't a muslim guys
he was obviously a gaymer
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U G H

G R O S S
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>>341087149
Even simple thoughts come difficult to those who hate thinking.
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>>341076369
>Has he got a point?
No. What I want to do in a gsme has no basis in reality and that is something he acknowledged in his tweets. If I feel some sort of joy from running and gunning down civvies in GTA, but it doesn't influence my behavior or beliefs at all, why does it matter?

Furthermore, most games are not just limitless slaughter. They follow stories and outside of a very few you are hardly being a mass murder. His use of the phrase is an obvious emotional play.

Finally, this whole idea that the videogame is beholden to the moral whims of society is absurd. If it sells that's all that matters.
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Lefties can't tell fiction from reality. More news at 11.

For real, I hate the asinine train of thought that violent video games somehow make folks more violent in the real world.

The shitskin that shot up Orlando certainly wasn't an avid gamer. So, what's the dude's point? What's his argument? I'm not saying it wasn't a tragedy and all that, but somehow saying the video game industry is even remotely responsible or liable for this is beyond retarded.
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>>341087281
You know he can't hear you, right?
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>>341085438
Probably still pissed about that minecraft review by RC64.
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>>341085043
Is Icycalm really dead?
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>>341085628
How do you profit off a mass shooting? Link it to gaming.
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>>341086334

Is he gonna pull another "I was just pretending to be retarded!"?
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How bad did The Witness flop?
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>>341076369
Yes, let's ban games. Now that I think about it movies are also violent, ban them too. Fuck it, let's go full orwellian, ban the Internet and free thought too.
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>>341087281
he cant read your post you autist
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>>341088051
don't forget books anon. it would probably be best to burn them so that they don't get reprinted.
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>>341087281
I remember when it was becoming increasingly apparent that there was a gap between vidya consumers and journalists they threw Molyneux under the bus to try and prove "Nuh uh! We aren't people who use our podiums to give coverage to our friends and act as another branch of corporate PR! See we can be critical of game devs, look how savage we were against Molyneux"
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>>341077442
>Talented devs make interesting games.
Not true.

Interesting developers make interesting games.

In order for people to be interested, you need to be interesting.
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>>341086348
There's literally nothing wrong with guns in video games. The only people who would decide to shoot up a place because of video games would be someone who can't distinguish reality from fantasy, and at that point it's not vidyas fault, it's societys for letting this mentally ill person in the world without help
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Do these people honestly believe that there wouldnt have been a mass killing if our culture didnt value the right to self defense and the entertainment value of firearms? Have these people never heard of bombings? Are they completely oblivious to ideological killings that happened before firearms or even explosives existed?

Are we going to start shaming cooks for valuing large knives in the preparation of food because millions were killed with blades in the crusades?
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>>341084747
This is fucking disgusting. What goes through someone's head when they use a religiously motivated hate crime and the deaths of civilians to push some unrelated agenda
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>>341084747
>now every call of duty has a sad, slowmo of the guy you shots life playing out before you can continue you play
>if you throw a grenade it gets all jumbled
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>>341087292

I had a gay friend of mine discuss Orlando with me and at one point he mentioned that it hurt more being a part of the group being hated against. I was dumbfounded because, as a human, I'm a part of every tragedy that befalls mankind . But no I guess we should only care when our sexualities match up.
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Stabbing fools is cool as fuck, in my opinion. It's especially cool when I'm not actually killing a person for real since I don't have to deal with the whole "Oh, I just took away a human life" issue.
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>Johnathan Blow blaming video games for societal woes

into the washup bin he goes.
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>>341076369
I would love if there was a good detective game where you could solve crimes and piece together a conspiracy. I don't know how that could be made into a good open ended game though.
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>>341085782

Funnily enough, during the first Christmas of WWI, allied and German troops ended up calling a ceasefire (disregarding orders from their superiors to do otherwise) and sang Carol's and played soccer in No Man's Land. I think it is called the Christmas miracle of 1914?

Quite the interesting event. Eventually, some officers had to shoot the enemy soldiers to get the to start killing each other again.
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>>341085951
He actually didn't back pedal at all, at least on the OP's picture. He said "fantasies about murder" are fucked up, not once did he say that it would somehow make real murderers.
He's wrong, but consistently so.
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>>341086334
>violence is inherently patriarchal and male
This guy has problems.
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>>341087742
His Steam account had no activity since last August and his last forum posts on both of his sites were from around that time period. If he's not dead, he's probably in jail or on the run.
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>>341076369

The only thing that might generally constitute a point is the fact that the Shooter market is bloated and there is a severe lack of quality puzzle games.

However that point gets missed badly by the person trying to make it and instead goes MUH MURDER SIMULATORS.

Seriously, Try playing The Island of Doctor Brain or The Seventh Guest then come back and tell me that your walking simulators are high quality storytelling mediums.
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>>341088635
Maybe we should start insinuating that all these people linking it to games might be gay for their need to bring it up.
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>selling a game about walking very slowly around one island solving puzzles for FORTY
>FUCKING
>DOLLARYDOOS
No thanks. I'd rather play games about shooting people.
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>shooting happens
>suddenly ppl want to raise awarness for an issue by scapegoating vidya
>if the shooting didnt happen nobody gave a fuck

funny how that oppertunism works to push selfish agendas
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Honestly though, why ARE most games about killing? I don't have a problem with it, I just don't know why I like it
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>>341088758
John Blow is a faggot, but you're an illiterate retard.
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>>341076369
>Blowhard being a Blowhard again
What a surprise.
"Hurr why aren't people making more connect the dot games where ther reward is an FMV cutscene of me".

Fucking retard. If JAI turns out to be shit or badly managed he's basically done.
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>>341089210
because it's an engaging way to solve conflict that is almost universally understood
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>hunting and killing is an inherent biological imperative to any non-vegetarian species
>why do people enjoy violent games?
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>>341086334
Maybe he just doesn't want to face that violence is inherently exciting for humans and therefore makes for easy, exciting gameplay. It doesn't matter if you are shooting people or robots, you are still being destructive and violent and that's fun.
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>>341089029

It's just a power thing. Humans love telling other humans how they should live their lives. We're going back to an age of segregation under the guise of unity. It's fucking mind blowing.
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>>341084747
Because shooting people IS fun. Or at least, simulating it.
Why do kids play robber and gendarme with sticks? Why do adult get into arguments, not always successfully restraining themselves?
Because humans are to some extent violent creatures and videogames appeal to that nature in an altogether pretty socially acceptable way.
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>>341076369
the world would be a much better place without niggers
2bh we should kill all niggers
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>1990s
>politicians whine about video games being 'murder simulators'
>game developers and journalists mock them

>2010s
>game developers and journalists whine about video games being murder simulators

ayyyyy what the fuck
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>>341076369
>why are you threatened
He never let any one answer him. He think disagreement is being threatened
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someone explain to me how the FUCK do you manage to shoot 50 (fity) people without someone putting you down, police forces or someone else

thats a fuckload of shooting
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>>341088206
Yes let's burn books, it's totally a very progressive way to show progressiveness, totally not done in the 15th century in Florence by the extremist catholic church!
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>>341089590
SHHHHHH VIOLENCE IS AN ARTIFICIAL STATE A PERFECT UTOPIA WHERE EVERONE IS ALWAYS FRIENDLY AND NICE IS POSSIBLE SHUT UP SHUT UP STOP BEING PROBLEMATIC
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>>341089157
>Normal person
>50 were killed? That's horrible, I pray for their families. This is a tragedy

>Liberal
>YES! TIME TO BLAME VIDYA FOR THIS. I FINALLY GOT SOME AMMO FOR SHIT OUT A ARTICLE. THANK YOU, TRAGEDY
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What is he talking about? This E3 has had nothing different than previous ones with regards to violence. Must be an American thing because it's the only 1st world country that has a mass murderer problem.
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>makes inferior puzzle games that people buy solely because he gets PR from his in-crew
>whines about different genres of games when he can't make even a single good one in his own
Okay?
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>>341086334
>Ininuating I might enjoy tea, cupcakes, or hugs

All this shit is good so of course he doesn't like them. He doesn't like anything.
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>>341089851
They were in a gun free zone.
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>>341089851
Aren't nightclubs guarded as well? Shouldn't someone on staff have had a gun?
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>>341089851
Only one person tried to attack him from the reports.
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Video games aren't going to stop Muslims from killing everyone they don't agree with
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>>341089851
Killed 50 and injured 50 more.

Have you seen how many people you can pack into a nightclub? That shit was probably packed and loud as hell. Nobody probably realized that there was shooting at first, until it was too late.
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>>341076369
big words coming from a man who fantasizes about being stabbed in the butt
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>>341080785
That's a propaganda game right there buddy and that's why people don't like that.
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>yield constantly to a religion that goes against everything you stand for because it's mostly comprised of brown people
>said religion brainwashes a brown person into murdering your precious homos because that religion hates them
>scramble to find a way to make this about anything than what it actually is so you can somehow point the blame at the same targets (LE NERDY CIS FUCKING WHITE MALES) that are easy to bully and won't kill you and so your world view isn't challenged at all
Every person who discusses this shooting without mentioning Islam at all is basically too far gone into the liberal cult to talk about anything with.
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>>341089851
Faggots weren't carrying, and it was a nightclub so they were all drugged up, lots of noise going on.
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Nietzsche was a goddamn prophet.
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Remember all the ridicule he got?
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>>341089303
>don't have to read to know he's full of shit anyway. Libtards don't use english by its oxford defined words. they made bullshit up with existing words with new meanings

He saying murder fantasies is a bad idea is saying video games causes violence outside video games. he's pissing in the beehive.
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>>341077425
Loaded questions. Like my asking you: Are you single or have ever raped babies?
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>>341090242
From the casualty maps, people found out right fucking quick. There was only one body on the dance floor, and unless he dragged the bodies around, most people died in the entrance probably trying to get out.
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>>341089851

Because everyone ran off and tried to hide inside a club, or a building where most doorways inside don't have doors, much less locks.
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>>341089851
Nightclubs are insanely packed. Especially on a saturday night.

Haven't you ever seen that nightclub fire video?
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>>341090479
he still deserved it, and so does everybody else today touting his same message.
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>>341076369
>>341078438
literally and figuratively basks in the smell of his own farts
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I don't have Twitter but make the point that the purpose of terrorism is to terrorise populations and damage their psyche and ability to function.

9/11 was partially successful not for knocking down two towers, but for financially devastating airlines for months afterwards, ushering in TSA abuse, patriot act, Iraq war fervour etc.

If you change your gaming behaviour after an Islamic terrorist attack, you're caving in to what the terrorist wants, which is submission and behavioural changes. You're literally letting the terrorists win, if you can't stomach playing FPS games that means you've been successfully terrorised.
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>>341076369
I agree with him when it comes to the industry at large, but I don't give much of a fuck about E3 so I wouldn't know how the event goes.
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>>341089851
so many drunk and wasted people with all them drug and alcohol m8 go out and live a little some time soon... hopefully without a shooter to bring you down from it to quickly
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>>341089851
He had one of these and shot the one armed guard coming into the building.
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>>341090171

>get mowed down in a gun free zone

should have stayed home and dodged a bullet
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>>341086994
Or to form an opinion. Because that's all it is. Pedophilia is gross, Furries are gross, Fanservice is gross. Gayness is gross These trigger so many people.
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>>341090634
Also, one guy who was escaping blocked an exit behind him so the gunman couldn't use it....subsequently locking a bunch of other people in as well.
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>>341080227
>Dance Dance Revolution doesn't count because you're killing it on the dance floor.

Under-rated post
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>>341089851
Nightclubs are dark, loud and full of drunk people.
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