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Why didn't they remaster Oblivion? It's by far the
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Why didn't they remaster Oblivion?

It's by far the best ES game
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>>341030568
Syrimjob is more popular
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>>341030568
Skyrim is the game that people use to pretend they're a "gam3r"
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Remastering oblivion would take two years and a fat budget

"Remastering" skyrim took a week of dragging and dropping
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>>341030568
Remasters are done for easy money. Less work is required to make Skyrim look "next gen" and throw it on PS4/Xbone
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I also kinda wonder that. I imagine most of the people who played Skyrim didn't play Oblivion and it would probably be a good way to get people into it / gain sales.
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Because it's the easiest thing to do while working on their next project. Just slap on some effects and ENB, instead of having to commit more work into remaking Oblivion.
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>>341030568
Too much effort.
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Money
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Brand recognition.
All the normies played Skyrim, and they'll buy it and play it again.
Why would Bethesda ever, EVER cater to their core fanbase when they can make millions more by catering to the casual fans?
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>>341030568
Because they did next to nothing for this remaster. If they remastered oblivion it would cost money.
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A 10 year anniversary remaster would have been nice.
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>>341031976
>it's been 10 years
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>>341030568

Did an enemy decked out in full Elven armour ever show up near Ayleid ruins?


I swear I never saw one.
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>>341030568
because Oblivion was before the great remaster age.

Remastering it to look good today would take actual resources. Slap some mods on Skyrim and there you go, remastered
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>>341030568
Nobody is going to agree with you but you're absolutely right. Open world RPGs are all about quests and Oblivion is the best at it.
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>>341032237
A bandit, when you get to a high enough level.
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>>341032237
I think so
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Modded Oblivion still looks nothing like Modded Skyrim. You're not gonna get any newfags to buy that shit.
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Because they'd have to recreate basically all the art assets
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Consolefags will never know the joys of Oblivion with mod support, with sex mods and women with grotesquely large tits
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>>341030568
Oblivion is the worst TES
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HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE HIGH ELVES?
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>>341033182
>tfw spending days to find a good penis mod
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>>341033339
Morrowind had very bad combat good writing good dungeons great world design and great magic

Oblivion had bad combat good writing okay dungeons weak world design and good magic

Skyrim had bad combat bad writing bad dungeons good world design and bad magic

Skyrim's the worst despite benefitting massively from modernising the series
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I've owned Oblivion on PC for ages but every time I think about playing it I think of all the mods I want and never end up doing it.
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>Oblivion
>Good
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literally have ZERO interest playing Skyrim again..that and the fact nothing is different. it's not like they made cities bigger or something.
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>>341030568
Oblivion really needed more closed helms to cover up those faces.
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I just want some sexy fat titted ladies and some lolis. Which ever give me the better sex mods I'm all for.
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>>341030568

They did, didn't they? I thought the console release of Oblivion had updated graphics and other shit.
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mods for Skyrim were fucking shit.

Bethesda is officialy dead.
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>>341030568
Why didn't they remaster Morrowind and add their original cut ideas?
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>>341033558
Skyrim's mod list is fuck huge, well organized, and well presented. Even normies are begging for them so that's why Skyrim 2 is fucking happening.

Todd couldn't monetize the first time around, because shit was already established. He now needs to upset to whole order and try again with monetizing a fucking hobby.
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>>341034218
I still don't see how mods on consoles will work

Like every single good mod uses the script extender which is an exe
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>>341034218
Oh and day fucking one how much you wanna bet, that all the console drones are gonna flock to steam workshop or the nexus and complain about all the PC mods that don't have downloads for them to put on a console.
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I wouldn't trust Bethesda to make a good remaster of an old game. They get worse and worse every year, they'd probably butcher what made Oblivion good and casualize it.
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>>341030568
>It's a 2000s nostalgia thread

Oblivion was shit. The world was boring and the leveling system was complete trash. Morrowind was much superior and even Skyrim was better.
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I CAN'T FUCKING MOD THIS PIECE OF SHIT CUNT FUCKING WHORE BITCH GAME

>download nexus mod manager
>worked just fine with Skyrim
>goes ballistic with Oblivion
>manually install
>doesn't fucking work aside from the smallest, most meaningless mods

fuck nigger
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that costs money
changing a water texture in skyrim is $6.50 of work.
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What the fuck
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>>341030568
> confirmed for not having played Daggerfall
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>>341034287
That's the joke. Todd lies then feeds on our currency. He is an inter-dimensional parasite from a plane of existence we can only fathom to be the other worlds to the gods, where he comes to our dimension seeks out the world containing sentient lower life forms and drains them of their wealth, women and time. He's the Adam Sandler of Video games.

Don't you people fucking get it, he's fucking with us. PC gets it "free" he's hoping we take the fucking bait he wants that to garter attention in hopes modders will hop on the bandwagon start stabbing each other in the back again for fucking pennies. He'll get richer and the community of modders slowly falls apart under pressure from people harassing them over wah why can't this PC mod run on my xboner or from the community shelling itself in when this douche nozzle tries to bring up paid mods again.

He's the fucking magnifying glass and we're the ants and God is somewhere up there holding that son of a bitch right over us laughing that he can use one creation to kill another.
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>>341034575
Wtf are placeholders?
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>>341034575
what, you thought it was free?
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>>341034720
That price is a placeholder?
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because the people who played Skyrim the most werent born when oblivion came out
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>>341032176
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>>341034513
works for me
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>>341034801

>got TES collection for $50
>includes TES 1-5 and all the dlc + all the maps of each game in a nice case

top kek bethesda
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>>341033558
Oblivion had shit writing, you're not the guy you're the errand boy for the guy. At least until Shivering Isles
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>>341034439
However
>best quests in the series
>quests are important in open-world RPGs
Therefore Oblivion is a bretty gud game.
Morrowind>>Oblivion>>>>Skyrim.
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>>341035285
>You're not the super special chosen one so the game has bad writing
???????
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>>341035285
There's never been a good main quest in TES

But oblivion had well written guilds and sidequests, skyrim doesn't
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>>341034575
Are you shock?
Most 8th gen owners didn't own a 7th gen system or had a RROD 360 back in 08 and never got a second one.
So greed sets in and "hey poor retard that can't work a computer to save his life! here's Skyrim, that game that was a buggy mess on 7th gen systems can now be experienced like that for you on the PS4!"
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>>341035285
>main quests
lol who cares about that
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What ever happened to Morroblivion and Skywind?

TES VI will come out long before those projects are done. And then they'll abandon those and try to make Morroguard.
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oblivion is the middle child of tes
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>>341035416
not gonna lie, this is the worst trope in gaming
the chosen one MC is such a boring idea
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>>341033558
>Morrowind
>Good dungeons

All 3 of those games have pretty shit, simple dungeons. Honestly I probably like Skyrim's the best purely do to atmosphere.
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>>341036424
>atmosphere
>endless draugr tombs that all look the same
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>>341034287
It'll be like what they wanted paid mods to be. Simplistic quests and cosmetic stuff. That way there won't be very much conflicts and it'll be easier to monetize.

With complex mods conflicts happen often and you could see errors after 24 hours of getting the mod, especially if the mods automatically update. As consoles can't use Wrye Bash or anything you also couldn't fix dirty edits or effectively fix your load order.

Mods using script extender are bad for monetization.
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>>341036581
>All look the same

Oblivion and Morrowind had the exact same problem.
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>>341036827
Doesn't change the fact that Skyrim's dungeon atmosphere was shit. Also Oblivion had more variety. Oblivion gate dungeons, those dungeons in the white ruin places, and others all looked different.
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>>341030568
Oblivion and Morrowind would require remakes on Creation Engine, especially if they want mod support on consoles. They might as well make an entirely new game.
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>>341030568
Because it wouldn't be a remaster, it would be a remake; a far more expensive venture.
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>>341033558

>oblivion had bad combat

The combat's fine for what type of game it is.
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>>341030785
This. If they "remastered" oblivion like they did with skyrim, it would still look atrocious.
If they try to port it on the new engine it will take ~2 years.
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>>341036827
Morrowind had the best dungeons with different ways to go through them. Lots of vertical stuff that Oblivion and Skyrim seem to have forgot how to do right.
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>>341033662
this i remember it being universally hated when it came out but i still like it.
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>>341032176
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>>341036827
Oblivion had
>caves
>ayleid ruins
>forts
>oblivion gates
Some of the bigger dungeons were pretty complex, at least compared to Skyrim.
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>>341030568
Because all they had to do with skyrim was re-export the models/textures slightly higher and then copy/paste it into the FO4 engine.

For Morrowind/Oblivion they'd have actually had to do some work.
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They should remaster morrowind so you can hit things.
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>Morrowind is released
Man, this is shit compared to Daggerfall!

>Oblivion is released
Man, this is shit compared to Morrowind! Morrowind was so good!

>Skyrim is released
Man, this is shit compared to Oblivion and Morrowind!

>Skyrim HD is released
TBA
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Because Skyrim made more money. Retards stop playing games when it isn't insanely easy so not that many people would buy an oblivion remaster. That being said, I spent hundreds of hours in both so I'm fine with it.
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>>341034513
>not using OBMM and BOSS

Its like you literally want cancer or something
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Oblivion has that absolute garbage 3rd person floaty shit (no mod could fix this) and that hilarious zoom to face when talking (can't fix with mods).
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>>341041036
>>Skyrim is released
>Man, this is shit compared to Oblivion and Morrowind!
You haven't heard? Morrowind is bad now.
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>>341041394
But Oblivion is just as easy as Skyrim. It just has better quests.
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Because more people played Skshitrim than Oblivion
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>>341039706
>nintendo 64
>not Dreamcast

lol
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>>341030568
I hate Bethesda every single game they make, every good ideas from modders are put into their next game.
>morrowind have no houses to buy, they add in oblivion
>oblivion have no finisher moves , they add in skyrim
I forgotten more examples but you get the point.
They don't add anything from themselves, just waiting for good ideas from community.
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>>341039706
I am playing through Super Mario 64 in the current year and I'm planning on replaying Tomb Raider next.
Imagine if in 2019 90% of the games released in 1999 got a 20th anniversary version...
> tfw can't emulate Midway's World Driver Championship in mupen64plus
> tfw Project64 performance in a VM and through Wine is crap with it
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>>341042525
Sorry, is the current year 2019?
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>>341031976
>10 years

Holy fuck, I picked up Oblivion the day it launched on PC. Has it really been 10 years?
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>>341030568
Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion
Daggerfall is for autists and Arena is "literally who" tier.
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>>341041036
>Skyrim HD release
Man, this is shit compared to my ENB
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>>341042605

Oh no, how evil of them to take advice and feedback from their fanbase!
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>Complaining about updates, engine upgrades, and free shit for the game you love

You'd rather they did nothing? Really? Really? Seriously dude fuck yourself.
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I remember when the prevailing opinion was that Morrowind was the best elder scrolls and Oblivion was shit.
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>>341043839
It still is the prevailing opinion among people who played both games.
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I've tried to play Oblivion so many times now, I always mod it to look beautiful but the game keeps crashing at some point.
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>>341043839
People who say Morrowind is shit are 16 year olds who played Oblivion when they were 8 and only played Morrowind for 5 minutes before deciding it was bad.
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>>341039706
It's wipeout's 21st birthday, you nog.
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>>341030568
That would have required more effort.
Personally, I would have preferred Daggerfall.
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>>341030568
Jesus a proper remaster for Oblivion would give me the greatest of erections.
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>>341030568
Because it'd have taken more work than simply slapping an ENB in the game and calling it a day.

Yes I'm butthurt.
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>>341030775
>700hrs
>I was only pretending to be a gamer haha!
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>>341030568
What good graphical rehauls or mods are good for oblivion?
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>why are they remaking skyrim, it just came out
>Skyrim was 5 years ago
where does the time go?
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>>341030659
Nathan?
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>>341044193
That's Wipeout 2097
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>>341038970
>new engine
It's the exact same engine they've been using since Morrowind. The only thing different is the mechanics.
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>>341044508
If I watch one movie a hundred times, am I a film buff?

If I read Harry Potter, am I a literary scholar?

There's a clear distinction between enthusiasts and casuals in every medium. This isn't a social issue, it's a fact. Not everyone has to be a gamer, and that's fine, but we shouldn't have to pretend that people who aren't enthusiasts have the same level of interest.

In the meantime, this stupid distinction that you're perpetuating is the reason why Skyrim is so slackjawed and stupid in comparison to Oblivion.
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>>341039463
Because everyone only had Morrowind to compare it to. It did some things right but cut a lot of content Morrowind had. When Skyrim came out with the shallow amount of content it had people started singing a different tune for Oblivion.
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>>341040485
You forgot the sewers
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>>341034513
Use MO. Run OBMM through it for omod installers, and just install everything else normally through MO. Even if you fuck up, you'll still have a clean Data folder to work with.
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>>341041569
You can eliminate the dialogue zoom with an ini tweak. Find fDlgFocus and increase it. I think setting it to 15 gives you no zoom at all.
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>>341044115
I gave Morrowind a chance for about 20 hours before I gave up on it. I just didn't find it fun.
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>>341033558
This assessment underrepresents oblivion's strengths - you should account for music and for comfy factor
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>>341046639
This. Music and comfort were God-Tier. It helped that Oblivion had actual cities, too, and not capitals with eight houses.
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>>341044990
This. They probably won't make a new engine until maybe ESVI
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>>341030568
>Remaster Oblivion
>Awesome graphics and models
>less crashes
>10/10 animation implementation
>voice acting is kept, but a few more VA are added for the sake of variety
>former mods still work
I would buy the shit.out of this. They don't even need to fix the bland world or yhe dungeons.
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>>341048742
An oblivion remaster would be way better but they just won't do it because it'll take nearly as much time as a brand new game.
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>>341048742
>voice acting is kept

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9REWMEOLdI
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>>341048558
They're apparently proud enough of the FO4 engine that they're porting Skyrim to it, so...

>>341048742
Unfortunately I think that even the Skyrim remake, minimal as it is, will probably break mods.
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>>341049065
Did they not use the same engine? I remember when FO4 came out /v/ was complaining about it being the same engine.
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>>341049227
Yup, same engine as Oblivion, with a few minor tweaks.
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>>341049227
They bolted more stuff on and brought it up to DX11, I think. It's "new" the way the Creation Engine was "new" in Skyrim.
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>>341048942
Not bad, but not young enough. I'dd add new dubguys.
Also
>choosing a bugged line
>choosing a bugged moment where lipsynch doesn't work.
Poor b8 m8.
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>>341049354
Thought so
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>Oblivion the best TES game
Kek
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>>341048273
This and the game actually has you visit each city through the various quests unlike Skyrim. I had actually forgotten Falkreath existed in when I came back to it because you never once have to visit it for any important quest. The only reason I first went there was because it was my first playthrough so of course I would explore the whole map.
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>>341049227
I would't complain about that. It would allow us to merge both worlds into one using mod magic, just like Morroblivion did.

I like Oblivion more, but the Morrowind world and setting is just too comfy.
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>>341048942
Damn the music makes me want to play it again
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>>341046042
Well, you probably don't shitpost in Morrowind threads either, because you at least gave it a good try.
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>>341033558
Oblivion has the best quests out of all the three I feel
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>>341049761
I wasn't complaining. It isn't really a bad thing. I was just noting that /v/ was butthurt
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>>341049354
Oblivion? Try Morrowind. Gamebryo is older than Valve's Source engine and they're still using it to this day. Hell even Valve has finally moved on to a new engine.
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>>341042525
>2016
>20 yrs since n64, quake, re, etc
>"not dreamcast"

totally didnt catch that did u?
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>>341050126
don't know about you but I had the prototype Dreamcast in 1996
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>>341045281
rekt
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>>341049227

For anything /v/ doesn't like if they didn't write the engine entirely from scratch it is the "same engine". By that logic Half Life 2 is still using the Quake engine.

In reality development is very much an iterative process, incremental modifications are made and stack up until there have been enough changes for you to consider the engine to now be a new major version. Very rarely are their large scale rewrites and there will have to be a very, very good reason for doing so, otherwise you are just wasting time and money.
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>>341035439
>There's never been a good main quest in TES

morrowind was fucking amazing toward the end of the main quest you goddamn dickass
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Is it bad that I enjoyed ESO more than Skyrim?
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>>341034705
this post is beautiful
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>>341051147
>pointless busy work for 90% of the main quest
>amazing

Did you think having to do the Oblivion gate grind to recruit for Bruma's defense was "amazing" too?
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Alright, let's settle this.

Morrowind>Daggerfall>Oblivion>Arena>Skyrim
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>>341053225
honestly I'd equate Daggerfall to Oblivion if only because both have nonsensical shit in them with the NPCs
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>>341053225

Don't be a douche.

Arena is shit. It was shit for it's time and it's not even worth a curious look today. Skyrim, even with all it's flaws, is still far better than Arena.
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>>341053840
>far better
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>>341050275
Yeah, well my uncle works for Sega and I had the prototype Mega64 in 1986
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Fuck anon, I wanted this so bad. Imagine how good the Dunmer would look....
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>>341057719
Probably like this.
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It's pretty clear they're doing it to profit off of consoles. The better graphics and mods aren't new at all to PC, in fact Bethesda's giving the remaster to people for free if they own the whole thing on PC, probably to try and move the modding scene over to it for consoles.

> http://gamerant.com/skyrim-remaster-free-pc-dlc/

Skyrim's also more well known than Oblivion, and casuals would be too spooked by Morrowind. They probably wouldn't do a FO3 remaster either, considering they still want people to buy FO4.

All that said, I'm still frustrated by it. Why remaster a game that's only five fucking years old?
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>>341058947
That looks amazing.
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