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http://www.voanews.com/content/china-plans-long-term-underwater-lab/3371062.html

>"China is planning to build a deep sea lab to look for minerals under the sea bed.

>According to a proposal presented by the Chinese Science Ministry, the lab will be placed about 3,000 meters deep and provide long-time living and working space for scientists looking for sources of oil, natural gas and valuable minerals."

Will Pressure become real?
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>"China has not disclosed the possible location of the lab, but the Communist-led country has been asserting its power in disputed areas of the South China Sea.

>Although such a lab can also have military objectives, a senior researcher at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, Xu Liping, said that its purpose will be mainly civilian."
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>>341014527
>"Chinese" engineering
Oh boy here we go.png
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I wouldn't want to be in a chinese-made undersea lab
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>if you're looking for me starts playing
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I thought of Rapture and Sealab 2021 instead.
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>"We can’t rule out it will carry some military functions"

>"China has spent hundreds of billions of dollars for a planned deep-sea platform in disputed waters near the Spratly Islands.

>Engineers with the China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation plan to create a lab nearly 10,000 feet below the surface of the South China Sea. The move will further rile Vietnam and the Philippines, which contest China’s growing presence in the region.

>“Having this kind of long-term inhabited station has not been attempted this deep, but it is certainly possible,” said Bryan Clark, a senior fellow at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, Bloomberg News reported Tuesday.

>“The deep sea contains treasures that remain undiscovered and undeveloped, and in order to obtain these treasures we have to control key technologies in getting into the deep sea, discovering the deep sea, and developing the deep sea,” the president said"
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SEEEEEEEEAAAAAAALAB UNDERNEATH THE WATER
SEEEEEEEEAAAAAAALAB
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>>341014527
>sea
>lab
>underneath the water
>underneath the sea

no ball no tip
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>>341015245
>>341015190
>>341015084

>Dur hur pop culture reference
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Hope you increased your swimming skill boys
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>Living and working for two months in a nuclear-powered deep-sea station, at a depth of about 1,000 metres, 33 Chinese “aquanauts” finish construction of a sophisticated mining facility atop the considerable mineral deposit.

>The switch is flicked, and rocks on the ocean floor begin to be pulverised – their copper-rich remains pumped to a floating platform above that is the size of a small city, where a fleet of empty cargo ships bearing China’s flag await.

>This may be just science fiction today, but it’s all part of China’s latest blueprint for construction of an elaborate facility on the ocean floor, in line with the nation’s ambitious plans for deep-sea exploration.
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>>341014989
This.
You can't even take an escalator or an elevator without someone dying every so often.
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>>341014913
This.
They can't even make safe escalators.
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>>341015378
>implying video game references aren't pop culture too
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>>341015513
>China is the riches nation on earth
>instead of giving that back to it's citizens they just build a bunch of useless shit because they don't know what else to spend the money on

Oh China.
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>>341014527
This is an impossibility. Nobody would be able to live undersea like this for any more than a few days.
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So what are the chances of everything just going to shit within the first three years?
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>>341015743
Why not?

We can live in space for months, and those conditions are worse.

We can live underground for months as well for that matter.
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>>341014527
V I D E O G A M E S
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>>341015879
No they're not. The pressure at that depth is incredibly strong. Building a structure that could stay down there indefinitely is beyond us currently.
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It's just like Beyond Two Souls.
I can't believe David Cage was right about anything.
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>>341016045

A titanium hull 6 inches thick oughta do it.
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>>341014527

>China awakens an ancient evil that laid dormant in the earth for a gazillion years.

this is going to happen, why do you think nobody wants to venture into undersea mining. Cost means nothing, not even saudis want to invest in underwater mining.
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>>341016045
To be fair. I'd rather trust a team with a budget of hundreds of billions of dollar behind them to have a decent solution to the problem rather than to trust you.
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>>341015682

>give back to citizens that kill babies on the street and mutilate animals

The government doesn't help its people because they are beyond help. It's better to just kill them all.
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A two-mile deep facility in icy cold water of many, many tons of pressure, with a Chinese-built facility with a Chinese nuclear reactor and more likely than not to be transported there in some ancient second-hand bathyscaphe.

Fuck. No. I don't want to die by any scenario involving such awful things.
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>>341016182
>>341016267
Good luck finding something that won't rust.
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>>341016267
>chinese
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>>341016167

Exactly what came to mind. What other stupid David Cage idea will turn out to be real?

>>341015682

>instead of giving that back to it's citizens they just build a bunch of useless shit because they don't know what else to spend the money on

They build stuff that maximizes growth on paper. Safe escalators don't provide as much of a GDP boost as massive ghost cities.
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>>341016385

Sacrificial zinc anodes exist. That's how they prevent the hulls of big ships from rusting. There's also much less oxygen available for oxidation at that depth
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>>341015950
Hello newfag
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Propaganda game still strong.
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DEAR GOD NO
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>Chinese deepsea lab
>people already get turned into toothpaste in pressurization accidents in Western deepsea structures
oh boy, this thing's gonna devour lives like one of the Old Ones.
Good thing they got enough people over there to keep feeding it.
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>>341014527

I think something like that is possible but wildly inefficient at this point in time. I can see this falling through once they start hammering out the details and financing.
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>>341016375
It's probably not going to have the factory but rather cables going to it.
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>>341015950
lurk moar before posting faggot
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>>341016214
>China awakens sea beast
>Gloats it can beat Godzilla any day of the week
>Japan gets serious about making gundams
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>>341014527
It's time
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>>341016556
>What other stupid David Cage idea will turn out to be real?
detroit is a real place
spooky right
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>>341015879
you may not believe it, but it's easier to go to space and stay there for months than just reaching that depth under the sea-level.
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>>341017028

This. We've never even put a base 1,000 feet down, much less 10,000.
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>>341016267
>I'd rather trust a team with a budget of hundreds of billions of dollar behind them
Because the Chinese are known for their great engineering these days, right?
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>>341016908
>2016 and still no blu-ray
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>>341017298
Yes?

We all like to joke about the elevators and ghost cities but they are undertaking some serious shit a lot of the time.
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>>341014527
Chinese techs can't even put people 20 m in the up direction without grinding or starving them to death. Instead of displacing people hey should invest in suicide booth.
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>>341017430
>Yes?

t. ching chong chinaman
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>>341017430
>they are undertaking some serious shit a lot of the time.
Like what? Anything that's actually impressive?
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>>341014527
>""""""Chinese"""""""""""" engineering
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Think of the the stuff they will find... ...
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>Not one mention of Deus Ex
What a shame
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>>341017430
>but they are undertaking some serious shit a lot of the time.
yeah, the ones that end up being made out of styrofoam and cardboard and collapse a year later
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>>341014913
i bet this sea lab will explode every episode
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>>341017878
You think these would have been fixed by now.
Is there a developed country that fucks its citizens over as much as China does?
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>>341017878
Should have those quotes around engineering. It's clearly Chinese.
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>>341015084
Kek
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>>341016907
top kek
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when did posting chinese propaganda = video games?
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>>341018173
China isn't a developed country. Only big cities like Shanghai are anywhere close to being called that. Half the country still has problems with running water.
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>>341017728
Building pretty much all the fucking ridiculously long bridges and having pretty much the largest X of anything. Fuck load of dams, including the Three Gorges Dam. The South–North Water Transfer Project. The Shanghai Tower, biggest Space Agency. The Qingzang Tibet railway and so on.

Sure they might not be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Xg7lYuYus

But to say they aren't pretty much the biggest country when it comes to engineering feats these days is just wrong.
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>>341018427
I said great engineering, not biggest or most.
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>>341017547
>>341017728
>>341017964
They make iphones
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>>341018518
With scale there usually comes great engineering.
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>>341017981
IF YOU'RE LOOKIN' FOR MEE
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>>341018617
Usually, but this is China. They cut corners while they're cutting corners.
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Its not a toy. It makes real cupcakes, with a 40 watt bulb, and it has icing packets, but the secret ingredient, is love. Damn it.
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Is this a china thread or a deep sea thread?
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Can't wait to hear of all the mishaps until inevitable failure.
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>We've gone to space

>but somehow itt people say you can't go deep sea

Fucking idiots, I swear this board gets dumber and dumber each year.
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>>341015682
Kinda like
The USA
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>>341018847
BIZZARO
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>>341018828
And yet they build stuff most countries dare not even dream to do, that works out great.

I dislike China as much as the next guy, but their engineering is one of their more impressive points and I think it's fair to give credit where it's due.

And let's face it. for every fucked up elevator in some shitty city, there are probably millions which work fine.
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>>341018987
No one said we can't. We said it is harder, and it is.
And somehow I doubt China are gonna be the ones to pull it off first.
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>>341018987
>Knows nothing about deep sea
>talks like an expert on it
Lol guys, like, we wuz in space n shieeet
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>>341019108
Except for this guy >>341015743
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>>341019108
We're going to enter a new era, the sea race. What President is going to get assassinated
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>>341014527
i fail to see how this will go wrong

>builds undersea lab using cheap rusty scrap metals
>guangli kangyi accidentally makes a wrong step and the entire place explodes under pressure
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>>341019210

What will the great men who go deep sea be called?
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>>341018987
Post your argument that we can put a structure there with material that can constantly stand the pressure and being 10K feet below us.
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>>341014527
They can't get an aircraft carrier running properly, I wonder how they'll pull this off.
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>>341014527
They are so starved of resources that they need to dig in the sea

Only to refine those minerals into subpar standard quality as usual
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>>341019276
Sea men
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>China cannot build stuff
They managed to build a few statillites and rockets that can get into space
And their high-speed trains work like a charm

So why not?
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Build bigger walls.
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>>341019108
>>341019163
>>341019291
They said we couldn't ever go outer space either, it was considered impossible.

This is just another task for engineers, they can do it.
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>>341016907
>America makes superior nuke tank
>Laugh at Nips for making impractical biped robots

Power armor is better choice
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>>341019453
I'm simply curious as to what material we could use to do this
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>>341019416
They send up more satellites and rocket than any other country even.
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search "Aquanox", no results.

I'm getting old I guess
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>>341015682
should we get rid of shit like CERN too? I mean that shit unbelievably expensive and useless to common people
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>>341015349

i swear to god i'll stiff ya son
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>>341014527
>>341015228
So this is literally just a military base which they're calling a lab.
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>>341019457
>jpan makes mechas
>riot everywhere in America about kaiju lives matter
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>>341014527
It's #2 on their agenda for scientific projects.

They'll probably at least attempt it. But of what value would this really be? Why do we need a human habitat on the bottom of the ocean?

We need one in space because we need to study the effects of 0-g, study how long term space isolation affects people, create tools to keep humans alive/healthy.

We need one on the bottom of the ocean...why?
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>>341019502
We could use your mom's cunt for the underwater base, smells like fish already.
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>>341019457
>America makes superior nuke tank
>not Putin's Russia turned to the resurrected Soviet Russia it so steadfastly tries to be
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>>341019521
>They send up more satellites and rocket than any other country even.
Not only they are polluting Earth but also space with debris.

Great.
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>>341015950
>implying this is not a deep sea thread
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undersea pressure stuff is some cool shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMHwri8TtNE
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>>341019659
They aren't doing it for the research. I mean they'll probably research shit if they build it, but the main reason for doing it is a status thing. They want to build it to say "look at what we fucking made," and space is old hat in that regard.
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is the AI that controls it called the RAU?
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>>341019772
this kills the crab
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>>341019659
>Why do we need a human habitat on the bottom of the ocean?
To Preserve mankind from climate change
The things living in the ocean survived easily compared to to creatures on the surface
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>>341019839
But space isn't old hat. There's so much that has yet to be done. And they're actually trying really hard to be the big dogs in space exploration.
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>>341019772
>whoopy do time to get me some food and find a girly crab
>wow this rock is pretty lo-
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>>341019453
Yes, but thinking it's in any way comparable to space travel is fucking retarded. Deep sea is a shitload more dangerous by comparison.

>>341019416
> their high-speed trains work like a charm
No. Good god no.
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>>341019416

>And their high-speed trains work like a charm

Didn't their shit go completely haywire because of cut corners due to bribery?

China also has some serious defects in what they make
>poor aircraft engines, limiting fighter performance
>ship design has doors facing the wrong way creating flooding hazards

It's not that they can't do things, it's that they generally do them poorly because they have no quality control, or lack the knowledge to do it correctly.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin#Diving_bell_accident
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>>341019960
And not going into space and running out of air or drifting endlessly towards the darkness isn't?
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>>341015378
Are they not obscure enough for you? You hipster COMMUNIST FAGGOT.
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>>341020014
>Coward, Lucas, and Bergersen were exposed to the effects of explosive decompression and died in the positions indicated by the diagram. Subsequent investigation by forensic pathologists determined Hellevik, being exposed to the highest pressure gradient and in the process of moving to secure the inner door, was forced through the 60 centimetres (24 in) in diameter opening created by the jammed interior trunk door by escaping air and violently dismembered, including bisection of the thoracoabdominal cavity which further resulted in expulsion of all internal organs of the chest and abdomen except the trachea and a section of small intestine and of the thoracic spine and projecting them some distance, one section later being found 10 metres (30 ft) vertically above the exterior pressure door.
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>>341019870
But there's no benefit to that. The easier, safer, better in every way, method is to build giant bunkers (which we already do.) Seriously the mega-wealthy are building giant ass survival bunkers.

The bottom of the ocean is a wasteland. There's no way to survive. Not to mention that it's impossible to perform maintenance without some kind of tie to a mainland surface facility. It's like a space station that you can't leave to repair.
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>>341020083
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>>341020182
>just fuck my shit up
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This is Gargantia all over again isn't it?
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>>341020085
>>341020083
Then how do regular fish survive jesus christ anons.
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>>341014913
This comedy gold in the making
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it wont fucking happen
it just wont
chinese wont build a cool deepsea base for a simply reason

they cant
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>>341014527
Kill yourself
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>>341019535
I remember that. Cover had nice tits. Or was that 2?
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Sage and report
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>>341020048
anon you're missing the point
we haven't said space travel isn't dangerous
we haven't said (except that guy) that deep sea stations are impossible
we are just stating that deep sea is much more dangerous than space and a lot more difficult to navigate
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This sounds like a fallout vault.
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>>341014881
>trusting modern day china with this
yeah no I rather let taiwan and japan unite in a project like this

at least then I would know they'll try to do both amuse and research
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>>341020309
I doubt it.

What are the big problems with it?
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"Underwater Labs" is just another name for Torpedo Installations and Submarine Reconnaissance
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>>341020235

deep sea fish are fucking nuts. they're basically jelly when you get em to the surface but down in the pressure they form up perfectly. also sperm whales can dive as deep as they can because their rib cage literally collapses under the water pressure every time they dive
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Chinese shipbuilding is notoriously shitty. I wouldn't go anywhere near this shit
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>>341014881
>its purpose will be mainly civilian.
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>>341020235

In case you're not being retarded as a joke, regular fish DON'T survive down there. Only specialized as fuck things survive at extreme depths.
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>>341014527
>Chinese build quality
Fuck that
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>>341020382
Pressure when you get really deep is insane. We've barely scratched the surface yet.
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>>341014527
I can't wait to see how general shoddiness and corruption among officials will turn it into the most expensive mass grave
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>>341020383
Torpedo Installations, Submarine Pens, R&D Labs, Dolphin Porn Factory..
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>>341019535
We ARE old
But at least we had fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAwVVALWQRo
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>>341020390
That's cool. So what does this mean for us?
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>>341019618
>kaiju become a protected species
>imgur is now full of cute kaiju pics
>new rule on 4chan stating that all kaiju porn must belong to /mlp/
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>>341020235
They don't. The ocean actually has several "stratospheres" of salinity and pressure. Fish and the like live in the upper layers. The only life that even get 2/3 down are invertebrates like jellyfish/squid that can withstand the pressure because they themselves are in-compressible (made of 99.999% liquid water, no gases.)
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>>341014527
I wonder how many worker will died building that shit if it's approved.
And who the fuck want inside any facility made by Chinese.
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>>341020382
pressure, mainly.
the deeper you go the higher it gets.
"For every 33 feet (10.06 meters) you go down, the pressure increases by 14.5 psi."
Literally 30 seconds of google
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/pressure.html
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>>341019596
What the fuck would they do with an underwater military base you daft cunt?
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>>341020460
>>341020616
So how do you counter that?
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>>341020542

That unless chinese engineers REALLY get their shit together, some human rib cages might end up collapsing too
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>>341020382
Every ten meters you move down the sea, pressure increases by one atm. 1 km down the pressure is 100 that of the surface, which leads to huge problems with engineering. A tiny hole could have catastrophic consequences
Not to mention the costs and risks of maintaining it
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>>341020382
10 meters deep = 1 Bar
20 meters deep = 2 Bar and so on
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>>341015682

>bunch of useless shit

How fucking naive are you?

64% of the planet is international waters, that is a metric fuck ton of untapped, unclaimed resources that China will get to decades before anyone else.
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>>341014527
can someone explain to me how this is video game related?

>NEWFAG NEWFAG REEE

please, mister """""oldfag""""" who's probably younger than me, do explain, i want to learn more about your """culture"""
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>>341020682
I'd like to answer that, but I really don't know, anon. Go ask those chinese guys making the underwater station.
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So what could be down there? Imagine the hardest rock, something better than diamonds, badass creatures from below, or mermaids.
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>Chinese are going to set it in motion
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>>341020749
>deep sea threads
>not /v/ related
Get out
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>>341020749
No, lurk more.
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>>341020749
deep sea is and always has been videogames. leave newfag. leave
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>>341020749
It's not dumb shit. Everyone in this thread is a faggot that wants chink dick and won't stop talking about it. As a defense they'll say
>b-b-but it's related to MUH SETTING
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>>341020749
holy fuck shut up
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>chinese engineering
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>>341020816
Blow up nukes on bedrock causing tsunamis to destroy neighboring countries.

>The process of docking a sub in that structure is totally safe.
Don't know why but if it works it might open up a lot of interesting possibilities for living under water.
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>>341020980
99% of the thread is shitting on China newfag
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>thread didnt turn into a deep sea thread
one job. nu /v/ literally can't do anything right huh
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>>341020497
damn that soundtrack was edgy, loved it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z8880vzWuQ

also pic related, hnnng
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ignore shitters
post deep sea
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>>341020382
Pressure. One hole and you're fucked. That whole "hole in space results in everyone getting sucked out" thing is malarky. To be fair, you don't get sucked out in deep sea environments either.

You just explode.
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>>341017878
this video is the reason i always check the brand is OTIS, otherwise, i use the stairs.
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Considering they can't even make an escalator that doesn't chew people up, I doubt they'll be able to make undersea lab that will last for more than a week.
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>>341020858
How come /v/ still can't handle Vash'jir then?
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>>341020657

Resupply nuclear submarines without surfacing or going to land.
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would you go deep sea if you had no visibility within 10 feet?
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>>341021319
and how do they resupply the base?
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>>341021105
99% of the thread isn't even deep sea you dumb nigger. They're still talking about China Newfag
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Do you want the mustache on or off?
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>>341021372

Periodic loads from shore. It won't be self sufficient but it will act as a supply depot for food and munitions.
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>>341014913

>>"Chinese" engineering

I know right chinese are such a joke, it's not as if 90% of what you own is made in china.
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>>341021319
it's like DO THEY EVEN EXIST (the submarines)?!

they can also conduct all their hardcore human rights violations experiments down there too if it's in international waters
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>>341021196
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>>341021463
yeah its not like people say "cheap chinese crap" all the time
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>>341021463

with non-chinese regulation policies

shit made by china for china is a disgrace
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>>341021372

With civilian ships and deep sea elevators.
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This is as big a deal as the moon landings.
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>>341015228
makes me want to play a round of civ 4 again
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>>341021196
>HAHA UNDERWATER PICTURE WINK WINK IM IN THE IN GUYS ;)
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>wanting to work in a china made sea lab

no thx
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>>341015508
IS THAT FUCKING CAPTAIN KIRK THERE ON THE FUCKING LEFT?!
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Tell me about your personal Pressure ideas /v/.
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>>341021463
Not even Chinese people want to buy Chinese products
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>>341021581

Yet they keep buying it over american or european crap.

China is so awful!

>Buys american flag made in china
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>http://observers.france24.com/en/20160229-china-fear-escalators-video-accident
How the hell do you fuck up something as simple as an escalator?
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>>341021687

And Bob from ReBoot in the minisub
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>>341019674
fucking spot on mate
dat nigga is well done
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>not Chinese Sealab 2021
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And finally the end of the world will come from fucking chinks.
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>>341021730

they aren't as simple as they look, which is why china fucked it up
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>>341021404
>99% of the thread isn't even deep sea you dumb nigger.
Learn to read dumb nigger

>Everyone in this thread is a faggot that wants chink dick and won't stop talking about it.
Can't even read the thread to see everyone is shitting on china for a laugh. Kill yourself.
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>>341021705

There's a trilogy of books based on Pressure up on Amazon.
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>>341021708
Because it's cheaper. Anyone that want s a quality product buys something manufactured elsewhere. Cry more chinaman.
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>playing Pressure
>finally escape the starting lab by crafting dolphin harness and splicing myself with angler fish genes
>leviathan starts tracking me because of my glowing forehead
>have to make a dash through deep sea caverns
>stumble upon entrance to another lab
>it looks abandoned
>get to the control room
>look at the panel
>all the buttons are chinese
Well fuck you too, game.
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>>341018987
>We've gone to space
Literally only 7 people alive have even been to the moon. We've barely accomplished jack with space. What are you talking about?
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>>341021746
i thought it was just a glow from his hud or something but yea i see it

anyway

there was something this reminds me of something like beyond humanity or something where humans evolved into different forms based on genetic engineering
lke there was one that was genetically engineered to work in space and had some grotesque form as a result
there were even pictures and a whole website dedicated to it but i forgot the name and the author

pic related it's one of the images turned into a meme
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>>341021976
>t buys something manufactured elsewhere.

You mean India?

Keep pretending American or Europeans make quality anything except bombs.
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>>341022090
Well the moon [atleast what we know] is fuck all but a rock besides the moon spiders the government covered up. We could have been in the beginning stages of terraforming Mars already if the government hadn't cut NASA's funding.
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Didn't think I'd see the day when deepsea threads turned to shit on /v/
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Are they gonna build it in one piece, then sink it? Or gradually add modules like the ISS?

Will you come in thru a pool in the bottom like Subnautica? Or a docking ring?
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>>341021978
>suddenly
>chinese ghoul mermaids ambush you
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>>341022261
A moon base where we could launch ships from would be a huge aid to space travel. Plus moonrocks.
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>>341022139
>Keep pretending American or Europeans make quality anything
Like cars, furniture, clothing, and building materials like steel. Cry more chinaman.
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>>341022392
american cars are poopoo tho
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>>341022551

Tesla
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>>341022551
American designed cars are arguable bad, but most BMW's, Volkswagons, or any other European car you buy in America are made in America. Same for Jap cars too.

Besides, you've clearly never seen a chinese made car.
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>>341021978
What game is this i want to give it a try. I can only find the racer
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>>341022117

I remember that too.
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>>341022694
poor man's audi, which is just a poor man's bmw

sometimes a poor man's porche
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>>341022694

>Tesla

It's way too fucking early to gauge their overall quality.

Give it 5 years.
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>>341022854

Good joke
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>>341022763
anon pls
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>>341020897
>Not video games was always video games
At least pressure threads used to pretend at being related to a game of some kind
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Will the US build one too, I wonder
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