Why didn't they just make a WWII game if they were going to fuck it up by adding tons of submachine guns and the same run-and-gun, head on a swivel bullshit from BF4?
Because that is an MP-18
>>341004642
because then it might be a decent game and not a modern BF game
My theory is that they chose WWI because most people don't know jack shit about it, thus they can force diversity like women soldiers and tons of black people without getting called out for it by normies. Everybody knows WWII so they wouldn't be able to get away with a bunch of female Nazi troops running around.
>>341004772
Yeah and 10,000 at most were produced during the last year of the war.
It's laughable to call this a World War 1 game. After seeing the gameplay it looks like they didn't even care about the setting at all. There's going to be no 1914 style gameplay here. They just made a WW2 game without making a WW2 game, which means nobody gets what they wanted.
>>341004642
Looking at the game right now they can easily pull a hardline and have a ww2 game in no time
>>341005289
>expecting anything realistic from a run and gun game.
Looks fun to me, dumb faggot.
>>341005583
You must love sucking shit through a straw if you like this miserable pile of feces
>>341005583
> Looks fun
No. Verdun is fun. The looks like an incredibly mediocre modern shooter with a WWI gimmick slapped on.
>>341005694
Get mad, you massive dumb faggot.
>modern shooters
Why even bother.
>>341005583
Not asking for realism, just respect for a setting that they KNEW would be hard to pull off while remaining atmospheric.
>>341004642
>>341005289
>>341005694
Were you expecting them to make a triple-A mainline Battlefield title be a slow, realistic shooter with trench warfare and no man's lands and everything being properly slower paced?
Because if you did, you're a damn fool.
>>341005802
>Verdun looks fun
Top fucking kek.
>>341004642
I just wanted to shoot howitzers at people 10 kms away who are actually playing the game.
> shitty biplanes shooting down observation balloons
this triggers me
are they gonna have destructible environments?
i doubt it because they didnt have RPGs in ww1... right?
>>341005897
>>341005859
>they never played World at War
>they never played Red Orchestra
>they never actually played Battlefied
Bolt-actions can be part of quick gameplay too you ignorant cunts
>>341005808
There's no point I've had enough of children like you ruining the industry
>>341005859
>respect
Bullshit faggot, no one really gives a fuck besides shitposters. Sure it's a bit annoying, but in the end only a real faggot would care so much.
>>341006074
as long as a player can reload while sprinting, it's possible
>>341005289
Good, an accurate WW1 style game with trenches would be fucking boring and terrible.
See Verdun.
>>341004642
>JAQCUES
ITS FUCKING SPELT JACQUES YOU FUCKS.
AHHHHHH.
>>341006073
>the war that was defined by artillery
>the war that introduced stuff like hand and rifle grenades
I'm sure all the buildings will be just fine.
>>341006090
Np faggot :^)
>>341005289
>Expecting realism
>In one of the most unrealistic modern FPS franchises around
You're actually fucking retarded.
>The first purposely-designed infantry anti-tank rifle was designed by Germany. The Mauser 1918 T-Gewehr large-calibre (13.2mm) rifle was capable of penetrating the armor of the newer generations of tanks and allowed a chance at stopping them. The high recoil of the rifle was very hard on the firer, sometimes breaking the collar bone or dislocating the shoulder.
Where any Anti Tank rifles mentioned during the demo?
>>341006129
>defending EA
Who is the real faggot now
>>341004642
Because they don't need to make a good game, they need to just hype you up and make you buy it.
>>341006201
Jaqcues pls calm down
>>341006337
Not defending, just being realistic, you huge dumb faggot.
>>341006321
No. The only anti tank weapons shown were some kind of grenade and some kind of mounted anti-armor cannon.
>>341006321
I think you can switch out for anti tank ammo or something
>>341006492
Realism is for faggots. You have already proved this mama's boy
>>341006430
Delet this
didnt know they used airships like that in WW1
can it be shot down?
>>341004642
ITS FUCKING BATTLEFIELD WHAT DID YOU EXPECT.
HONESTLY DID YOU THINK THEY WOULD GO FOR REALISM?
Are you that much of a dumb cunt?
>>341005127
Except the rest of the world knows and is taught a lot about WWI, it's only Americans who aren't taught that much about it because they did fuck all in the war and Americans are extremely self centred.
>>341004772
Stormtroopers mostly used pistols and hacking people to fucking death in a brutal melee.
All you have to do is focus the game on assault troopers rather than the line infantry and you can be accurate and run and gun as fuck. Instead it's really just the same old same old.
The big inaccuracy I'm concerned about is Austria having tanks.
>>341004642
What did you except, you stupid faggot
>>341005289
>They just made a WW2 game without making a WW2 game, which means nobody gets what they wanted.
This is exactly how I feel. Why didnt they just make a WW2 game? It would have been 1000% better and they wouldnt have to pull everything they could out of their ass to try and make this as modern as a shooter as possible while at the same time ruining any historical interest of the setting. They straight up made the german army look like nazis anyway.
>>341006602
Yup, it bursts into flames and crashes into the field nonscripted. They did a full hour of multiplayer earlier, it should be on YouTube.
>>341006660
Every country is extremely self-centered. What doesn't matter to a country doesn't get taught.
>>341006321
Not that I know of, but that exact rifle was shown very briefly in the first preview trailer, where the armored guy is running alongside a tank
>>341007140
i cant find the link can you help me out?
>>341005897
No, what people are saying is that if they wanted to retain a fast-paced, high intensity design philosophy they probably shouldn't have chosen fucking World War I as a setting. Doing so leaves you with two options: Make the gameplay slow-paced with niche appeal or make the fact that it's set in WWI stand at odds with the gameplay style.
>>341007096
>tfw you'll have to wait maybe another 4 years or more for a possible new WWII battlefield game
Even worse is that all the people trying so hard to appear not to be a CoD fanboy are screaming "but who cares about muh realism" and eating this faux WWI bullshit up.
Because of nazis. No nazis in ww1, at least not until the eventual DLC.
>>341004642
My problem is that it gave off a more Battlefront vibe than it did Battlefield.
If they would have just said some stupid shit like "We of course took some artistic liberties and asked ourselves, what if the automatic guns were invented for a wide use on the beginning of the war and blimps saw wide use outside bombing raids." After that they would have a free pass to have whatever in the game, but no they went with the "GUYS THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT WW1 WAS LIKE LMAO"
Why do history buffs come out of the wood work when they said it wasn't going to be a historically accurate representation of the time?
Wish you autist would fuck off already.
We're talking about a game series where you can eject from a jet, plop some c4 on a helicopter, blow it up, then land back in the same jet, and fly away safely.
>>341008042
>Wanting something based in a certain era of war that actually represents that war makes you a history buff
I want the actual autists to leave.
>>341007193
t. American
So is the twist of the German single-player campaign going to be that you were playing as Hitler the entire time?
>>341008147
Calling them history buffs was a joke, you actual asperger faggot.
It's a game, it doesn't have to be an exact copy nor should it unless that's why they're specifically setting out to do.
also
>>341008050
This
>>341008215
Niggers don't matter but we were still taught about slavery, checkmate, europoor.
>>341008326
I wish
>>341008379
>I was only pretending to be retarded!
>>341008480
How am I retarded?
>>341006321
Not mentioned but there's one right here
>>341006074
I actually prefer bolt action in those games.
It is almost like sniping but without the optics.
>>341006602
Germany used them for a while to bomb London.
They were somewhat viable because they could ascend higher than airplanes at the time and could sit safely above the clouds. Eventually the British adapted, though.
I don't think they were ever actually used above actual battlefields though.
>>341004642
So they could say that they did a WWI game?
Just making usa relevant should have tell you that it was going to be shit
so historically accurate
>>341005583
>>341005897
>>341006129
>>341006542
>>341008042
>>341008050
>>341008379
Wow these dudes are literally all the same person
This cuck
If you want this to be a ww1 sim then better start demanding mod tools from Dice.
>>341009736
>implying
>>341004836
>not a modern BF game
>they blatantly use the same code and shit for the biplanes as the jet
>they handle like rc planes
>boost
bad b8
this is fallout 4 all over again
im not gonna play it, but if you actually expected a realistic WW1 shooter from dice you're fucking stupid
>>341009736
this post was made by me
>>341009736
Heres my (you)
>>341008326
Wow, carrying these messages between the rear and the front and occasionally seeing some shelling sure will be amazing
>>341004642
>black hand
>>341004642
>you will never fight in one of the greatest wars of civilization bravely giving your life for your people and nation
>only for some faggots in Sweden to write in niggers as the heroes of the whole war
>Battlefield 1942
>Japanese soldiers had German weapons only
>German main tank was the Panzer IV with the short barrel
>all allied nations, even the Russians were equipped with Enfield rifles, Thompsons, M1911s and BARs
Why did nobody complain about this?
>expecting early war WW1 when tanks weren't used by both sides until very late war and Battlefield has always been about combined arms
How fucking stupid do you actually have to be?
>M-MUH REALISM
>I WANT FUCKING TRENCHES
>I WANT SHITTY AND SLOW WEAPONS THAT AREN'T FUN
Jesus Christ /v/ you fucking suck dick in game design.
>Let's take the shooting for example. You can pick a BAR and go Rambo with it and rack up a decent number of kills before being sniped or blasted to pieces by a tank. Problem is, the BAR was a support weapon, and was incredibly inaccurate unless it had its tripod deployed or its user prone. The whole game tosses every scrap of reality and chucks it out a tenth story window. LMG's like the Type99 and DP are used like assault rifles. SMG's like the Thompson or Mp40 are amazingly accurate, horribly weak, given to "medics", and have almost NO range to them. Rifles are thrown to the wayside despite being the primarily used weapons of the war, and both they and the Bazookas are perfectly accurate. GRENADES DAMAGE TANKS!! Many famous/key weapons aren't in the game like the Russian PPSh and Mosin Nagant, the German Panzerfaust, FG42, and Gwher43. The Japanese Arisaka, which was one of the ONLY weapons they used in the war. (the Type5 doesn't exist) The American M1A1 Carbine isn't in there, there are no rifle grenades, and the British don't have the Sten Mk.IV or the Bren LMG.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
>>341004642
I wouldnt worry OP the gpu you own wont even run this on low. You wont be playing it
>>341008621
>charging with an anti-tank weapon
i bet he fires it from the hip too
>>341010443
>Want to make a fast paced run and gun shooter
>choose WWI as a setting
for what purpose
>>341010690
>No mosin nagant
Absolute travesty.
I'm more interested in that armature studio making that online WWII shooter.
>>341010991
Marketing. Are you really this fucking dumb? Were you born in the fucking slums?
>>341010690
What game are you talking about here?
>>341010690
At least those guns were actually iconic of their war, and not just because of the video games surrounding them.
ONLY snipers have bolt-actions in Battlefield 1. It's a joke. Nobody is asking for realism. That's so beyond all expectation already. They are just asking why this is a World War 1 game at all?
>>341010690
My grandad had the bren in the war, said it overheated like shit and sometimes you had to piss on it to cool it down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19hohCtdJ4Y
>>341010374
because historical accuracy takes a back seat to gameplay. try re-creating the battle of Verdun, where trees were blown out of the ground by artillery and struck by another shell while still in midair, and watch the map popularity drop like a rock from the incessant respawning. battlefield's popularity is in making games that play like a historical-themed colosseum deathmatch.
see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI2Z0avJuc4
>germany unnecessarily used a mauser action that was almost twice as slow as this
none of the british tank crew in the trailer were wearing splatter masks either, but nobody really cares because it isn't a great loss.
>>341008379
>It's a game, it doesn't have to be an exact copy nor should it unless that's why they're specifically setting out to do.
You wont expect to find a fucking P90 or a M16 in fucking WW2 would you nigger?
>>341011667
Not if they specified they weren't being historically accurate. You fucking double nigger.
>>341011168
>Make a game about the war nobody cares about
>Marketing
You must be Australian
>>341011018
It's a quote from a contemporary BF1942 review on GameFAQs. Battlefield being inaccurate isn't new, nor is people complaining about it.
>>341011667
fuck you, that would be awesome
>>341012009
Meant to quote >>341011184
>>341010374
Same thing in later titles with U.S Marines running around with AK Variants and Russians with M4's and Chinese with european guns
>>341004642
Because World War 1 had lots of neat and unique vehicles, and vehicles are the whole point of Battlefield.
>>341004642
It's not so much about them caring about making a WW1 game, its more about showing how great niggers are in history.
>>341008452
only americucks are taught about slavery, literally WHITE GUILT: the education
>>341004642
i really wanted single shot bolt action rifles
>zero absolute footage of single shot bolt action rifles that don't have sideway scopes with bipods deployed
>casuals and lames will always be developing games for other casuals and lames
>>341012798
>>>>this
I was excited for BF1 first, but after seeing the gameplay its clear that nothing has changed. Its the same overly fast paced explosive filled fuckfest thats not going to be fun.
Into the trash it goes, glad I dont have to waste money on that. I skipped Bf4, BF hardline and I will be skipping this turd aswell. Waiting warmly for a proper battlefield game.
>>341006259
Thread should have ended here desu
>>341004642
>>341004772
>>341005289
To be fair they do this sort of thing with modern game all the time as well.
There is only some like 20 stealth bombers in the world but how many do you see in games?
>>341006660
>rest of the world knows and is taught a lot about WW1
Europe doesn't equal the rest of the world you fucking faggot. You always call Americans self-centered but you are possibly even moreso
>>341006321
>Fires .50+ caliber bullets
>Full wooden stock
That hurts me just thinking about it
>>341004642
I'm not really into Battlefield, but watching the gameplay seriously made me sad
It's literally just every other Battlefield game again and everyone is gonna praise it for being "innovative" and "fresh" because it has a bit of a different setting
>>341013061
Reaching much?
Bombers are in the background. This mess is right in our faces. Guns are everything for an FPS.
They just stupidly chose an era where their rock-paper-scissors class system doesn't work and decided to modify the setting rather than pick a new one. This is definitely a World War 2 game. It's just a testament to their stupidity that they even tried to make it World War 1.
>>341010374
Because those are obvious time/budget saving measures (though they still annoy me, thankfully there are some great mods for 1942 that fix those things).
>German main tank was the Panzer IV with the short barrel
More galling is the fact the M10 Wolverine is a heavily armored tank on par with the Tiger, but as >>341011520 says, gameplay balance > realism.
What's the reason for me to buy and play this over BF4 if it's going to be exactly the same assault rifle class, SMG class, LMG class, sniper rifle class etc. setup?
What's the point of having an entirely different setting if it's going to play exactly the same?
>Mfw would have much preferred another WW2 game anyway
>>341009923
>Boost
Was War Emergency Power a thing in WW1?
>They handle like rc planes
Could be tuned.
>they blatantly use the same code and shit for the biplanes as the jet
They blatantly use the same engine and shit for the entire game.
>>341014273
BF1 will have players and BF4 will be dead.
Just like BF3 and BC2.
>>341014516
>BC2
Lives through project reality or whatever doesn't it
>>341014273
No lock-on shit
Cool setting
Bad company 2 destruction
This game is gonna be fun don't listen to /v/ jrpgays
>>341004642
>there are retards in /v/ right now that will buy this game
>there are retards in /v/ that bought Battlefront and think this game will be different
Bask in the fact that you are not a retard if you are not one of these people
>>341014598
You're thinking Battlefield 2, though PR is on its last legs.
>>341014273
Coulda said the exact same when Battlefield moved away from World War 2.
>>341014516
I don't play BF4 anymore anyway so it's all the same in the end.
Don't really see the point in spending another $120 on a buggy, broken DICE game with retarded grinding for 10 billion unlocks and awful low contrast desaturation filter over everything with nothing noticeably different about the gameplay.
>>341009923
Actually, their flightmodels for planes are absolutely garbage for jets, theyre much better for biplanes.
>>341008621
3mph tanks
>>341014953
>$120
Move out of whatever third world trash heap you live in
>>341006321
>>341015303
I assume he's including how they basically force you (to get anything out of it) into buying the season pass.
