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Male or Female?
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MALE

TO

FEMALE
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>>340967262
>no tits
>Aonuma straight up said Link is a boy last E3
>ITS A GIRL GUYS
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This just in, the new hero will be able to change genders at will
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>>340969520
>sales up 9000% in /v/ demographic
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>>340969520
Zelda 1/2 confirmed
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>>340969520
so like changing age or world but with gender? what is this dark souls 2?
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>>340970141
I think you mean /v/umblr, so most Neotendo fans then
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Why is link being a chick such a big deal?
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>>340970860
It's not, so there's no reason to make it happen.

Laughing at idiots is a 4chan pastime, though.
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>>340970860
Is it really necessary?
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>>340972707
Why are we here?
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>>340973545
Videogames
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>>340973545
Chronic depression.
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>>340973734
>>340973840
Two types of people.
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>>340972707
Why does it make a difference? There's no reason for it not to be an option.
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>>340974219
There is no reason to just have a male character have a female option
You faggots already make it seem like he's a femboy
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>>340970860
Like asking why does it need to be a thing?
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>>340972707
why do you get to choose a gender in any game?
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>>340967737
WOLBACHIA
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>>340974219
If there's no good reason to change something, that is inherently a reason not to change it.

Link is his own character, and there's no reason to change who he is. Thus.
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>>340976156
EYES ON CHUBBY KAZUHIRA
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>>340974219
Link is a boy.
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>>340976156
DINE
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>>340976062
When I play Mario, I dont ask why he doesnt have a female option.
When I play Donkey Kong, I dont ask why he doesnt have a female option.
When I play Kirby, I dont ask why he doesnt have a female option.
When I play Gex, I dont ask why he doesnt have a female option.
He is his own established character, and that doesnt need to be changed.

also
>>340976290
>>340976537
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>>340976290
>is a different character every game
>is barely a character at all
>usually just a vessel for the triforce of courage
good argument
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>>340967262
Link will be male in Japan but Nintendo of America is going to modify his gender to female during the localization
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It really doesn't matter in a vacuum. Since there will be a shitstorm if Link is a girl, I'd rather it just doesn't happen.
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Who is in favor of Link being female?
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>>340976156

BURGER
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>>340976758
>Donkey Kong
you can play as Dixie
>Mario
you can play as peach
>Kirby
doesnt have a gender
>Gex
who gives a shit
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>>340976290
>>340976537
>>340976758
On top of this, Linkle exists now. Nintendo's already going the "make a unique character" direction. Dunno why babies are still trying to make Link into someone else.

>>340976997
The "vessel" is the same dude reincarnated each time. Thanks for helping me out.
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>>340972707
About as much as Link being a dude.
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>>340976758
Link doesn't really have much of a character, though
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>>340976758
Link is a persona, not a single character. This has been known for decades and Skyward Sword cemented the idea that anyone can be Link. His name is even fucking symbolic of it.

Being able to choose your gender would have no impact on gameplay and only help people to get immersed. Although it's somewhat questionable since Link is already rather androgynous.
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>>340976156
HOSHO
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Female MC game will cause bad sales. So Nintendo will opt out on that.
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>>340977627
>same dude
WW link has nothing to do with every other link though
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>>340977880
Samus didn't need to be a boy for me to be immersed in Metroid. Fuck off.
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>>340978438
That's cool and all but the "vessel" is the same dude reincarnated each time.
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>>340978241

Really?
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>>340976156
VOCAL CORD PARASITES
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>>340974219
There's no reason for it to be an option.
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>>340978567
Samus is a defined character, though. Link is a completely silent character with minimal background.
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It's just Link with a hood, what the fuck are these people on?
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>>340977345
>you can play as Dixie
Not a female version of the character, she is a canon character, and a good one at that

>you can play as peach
One spinoff game, and she isnt a male Mario

>doesnt have a gender
Sakurai calls him a "jolly fellow", and he is referred to as a male in multiple games

>who gives a shit
Me, suck a fatty


>>340977809
>>340977880
Ness is a silent protagonist, but he has character from the love of Steak, Rock music, and the way other characters treat him.
A few Links have shown personality, despite being a silent character and self-insert.
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>>340977345
Since when is Dixie considered a female counterpart to Donkey Kong? Same goes with Peach and Mario. They're each a character with distinct personalities and traits that make them unique.
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Male until definitively proven otherwise.
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Theres like dozens of different links, each just being a reincarnation of the original right? A soul doesnt define what gender a baby will be. So its plausible for a female link to have existed at one point (not counting linkle since shes apparently not a "link")
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>>340970860
Equality Anon
It's no longer the 80s
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>>340978751
but ww link isnt
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>>340979162
How about you make me a fucking sandwich, bitch?
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>>340978943
You mean like Samus?
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>>340967262
It's the same fucking face the color's off because the faggot's pasting a lanyard print onto digital art.
I swear this "Link needs to be/is a girl" shit needs to stop.
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>>340976156
THE OCELOT'S AIM IS OFF TODAY
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>plot involves Link being turned into a girl
>Zelda has to teach him how to be a girl
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>>340976290
>If there's no good reason to change something, that is inherently a reason not to change it.
Here's a good reason: People want it.

Now explain to me why people are unreasonable for wanting it.
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>>340967262
Already confirmed he's a boy.
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>>340967262
Whatever xir identifies as, cis scum.
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>>340976156
MOUTH TO MOUTH
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>>340967262

A trap
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>>340969520
YAPAPA
YAPAPA
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>>340979005
>few Links
Thanks for reminding me; there are multiple Links.
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>>340970860
Men that want something to fap to and pretend they're a girl while playing want it under the pretenses of gender equality and feminism.
Girls don't want it because Link is gateway fujobait.
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>>340969123
same shit as:
>Release harry potter books
>books filled with references to Hermione being sandy haired white girl
>tumblr audience wants muh black femdom
>"I never once stated or referred to Hermione as white" claimed JK Rowling, after announcing that Cursed Child would star a sheboon as Hermione.

Its stupid fan service. Whatever they think will make them the most money, based on the vocal majority.

Right now Nintendo's stockholders are thinking "Little Girls = YEN", and for once its not in the practice of actually selling the child
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>>340979487
>Here's a good reason: People want it.
You and the 4 samefagging trap loving autistic fucks on this board dont account for the majority
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>>340977345
>doesnt have a gender
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>>340979162
>It's no longer the 80s
But the 80s was all about diversity quotient filling children's media.
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>>340979476
preordered
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>>340979585
EL AMOR SIEMPRE VA SIN RAZON
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>>340979335

Are you retarded? ever since the first Metroid she was established as a character on her own.

And yes the all the manga are canon, they were tie-in to show her personality and lifestyle. Zelda manga isn't canon, but their own contained universe.
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>>340967262
BIG BROTHER IS NOW BIG SISTER.
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>>340969520
>The mechanic is only used to enter different restrooms
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>>340979487
Something as nebulously small as "people" wanting it isn't a good reason and if you think it is you unreasonably overestimate how entitled you are to a company's effort.

Show the market presence of people who specifically want and will only pay for Link being a girl/having that option, and you might get more results.
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>>340979885
Ever since the first Metroid, when she wasn't even revealed to be female until the very fucking end? Sure, because her character was so integral to that gameplay experience.
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>Dixie is DK's female counterpart
Fucking underage faggots.
She is DIDDY'S BUBBLEGUM AND GRAPE LOVING GUITAR PLAYING GIRLFRIEND
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>>340967262
why can't nintendo just tell us what it is. them jerking people around is going to get backlash no matter what at this point. link is a girl pisses people off for changing the status quo, link is a boy pisses people off because they're fucking cock teasing people that he might be a girl.

it's a no win situation
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>>340979813
1. You don't need to be a majority for a game to cater to you.
2. Are you really going to play ignorant, and pretend there are thousands of people out there who think an optional female Link is desirable? You're really going to sit here and just lie to my face like that?
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>>340979767
>after announcing that Cursed Child would star a sheboon as Hermione
It was a stage play, you fucking moron. Plays do this kind of shit all the time.
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>>340980253
dixie is cuuute
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I DONT FUCKING CARE

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE GAMEPLAY,STORY, ANYTHING THAT DOSENT INVOLVE THIS SHIT
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>>340967262
>But it seems like that's not the case. Speaking to Australian site MMGN, Zelda series producer Eiji Aonuma has said that the character in the trailer was, in fact, a male Link. "You know, you have to show Link when you create a trailer for a Zelda announcement," said Aonuma to the site.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-the-legend-of-zelda-producer-confirms-the-hero-is-link-is-male/1100-6420451/

Why are people still retarded about this?
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>>340979476
>it's a genderbender episiode
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Why do the Social Justice cucks want to take everything we like and augment it to shit? Remember when they tried to make Captain America gay?
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>>340980298
>Are you really going to play ignorant
Way to out yourself.
Did you miss your daily estrogen dosage?

>>340980645
I want another sword that isnt the master sword
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>>340980151
Profit doesn't rule every decision. Video Games are creative products. Some decisions are made simply for the fun of it. You remember fun right? If someone with an ounce of creativity sees a demand, and thinks it's worth filling, then that's reason enough to do it.
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>>340973545
To suffer.
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>>340967262
this games magical gimmick will be the ability to change into a girl

if not switch from Link to Zelda to solve puzzles or fight enemies.
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>>340980253
are not they like cousins or something?
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>>340974837
He is, though.
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>>340980010
>You could assault people in there but you don't because thats not what you want to do
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>>340980883
>Profit doesn't rule every decision
>If someone sees a demand, and thinks it's worth filling
>thinks it's worth filling
>worth

>he thinks anyone will see a demand if nobody can actually quantify it
>he genuinely thinks Nintendo will cater to him and the 5 other posters on his messageboard posting the same thing every day to make himself look bigger

Show people you want it. Show them it's a dealbreaker if you can't have it. That's how it will happen.
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>>340980824
>Way to out yourself.
>Did you miss your daily estrogen dosage?
Oh, for a minute, I thought I was talking to someone who cared about logic and reason. Instead, I'm talking to someone who denies the demand for female Link, and lobs personal attacks. OK.
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>>340979990
WOAH
EVEN BETTER
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>>340981342
They arent even the same species.
Diddy is a spider monkey, and Dixie is a lowland gorilla.
And their snouts have different structures.
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>>340974837
>You faggots already make it seem like he's a femboy
>Implying
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>Everyone wanting female link
>Meanwhile I'm alone in wanting Ganondorf as the MC for a game
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>>340981530
>I'm talking to someone who denies the demand for female Link
What demand?
Why is it such an issue now?
Cant you faggots ask for Zelda to be playable instead of changing a character?
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>>340969520

>Zelda's a trap

Yes. Yes YESSSS
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>>340970860
Because literally every single incarnation of the Hero of Time is male. It's like asking "Why can't Samus or Tomb Raider be male"?
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>>340967262
Male on the original. Female on the USA after treehouse is done with it.

captcha was trees
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Why can't Samus be male? Samus and Link both have the personalities of a wet brick so why can't she be male?
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>>340969520
What will this ability offer in terms of gameplay functionality?
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>>340981506
>Show people you want it.
Check. That's happened already. Articles have been written. Hyrule Warriors tried to pass off a female Link. Aonuma had to officially state Link's sex, because enough people made noise when Zelda U was revealed. There's a lot of news and talk and debate over Link's sex, outside of 4chan.

> Show them it's a dealbreaker if you can't have it.
That's where you're wrong. Because, again, it's a creative medium. Not everything id dictated by sales figures. Aonuma doesn't change Link's tunic from green to blue, because he thinks it will sell more units.
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>>340979990
Is that an actual line in the game? I jacked off to some TF gif titled that.
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>>340976156
COPULATION
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>>340973545
Because we're here.
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If it was female her neck would be censored.
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>>340981647
Word of god says all the kongs are one fictional species called kong

I will say you blew my mind a bit by showing Dixie has no tail
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>>340982293
Changing into a cute girl forces Link to become 2D and allows travel along walls. Real, trademark Nintendo-style innovation for the series.
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2 Person Zelda game about a brother and sister each with half a triforce
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>>340967262
context?
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>>340981990
>What demand?
I don't even know where to begin. Do you have your head in the sand? How can you not see the demand that is out there? People constantly talk about a female Link. To the point where it's become a meme(What if Link was a girl?) And that was a meme before the SJW bullshit ramped up. The fans just talked about constantly.

It's not an "issue" now. Are you a newfag? It was always an issue. It's just the SJW interference turned the topic sour.
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>>340982450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMvgKqMWAlg

Its from Corrins smash trailer.
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>>340967262
my current headcanon is slightly girly cuntboy
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I have never seen so much discussion over one character's dick in all my life.

Just make it stop.
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>>340969520
>appealing to genderfluid tumblr audiences
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>>340970141

Vintage meme, grandpa.
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>>340983023
Oh, I didn't remember that.

Thanks
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>>340982268
There is only one Samus but there are multiple Links
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>>340982985
>What if Link was a girl?
It was "what if Zelda was a girl" and it wasn't about Lik being female, it was a joke about people calling protagonists by the titles of their games, like Halo being a pretty cool guy or Metroid crawling.
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>>340969520

Day 1 buy. TG best fetish.
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>>340982937
The e3 badges have Zelda art on it. Someone posted a picture of the badge on twitter noting that Link looked male in one art, and female in the other. Then the guy in OP thinks he's Mr. CSI and superimposed the badge art with the regular art. I suppose he thought doing that accomplished something.

That's literally it. Some literally who made a comment about Link looking female.
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>>340976758
I agree. I wouldn't mind having one instance of a female lead Zelda. No gender options with some neutral story bullshit. Or like thus anon suggests >>340982872 make it around two characters, each with their own abilities and items.

The problem is people wouldn't take it as a one time thing. They don't want a female Link, they want Link to be diluted to a shitty avatar in every main game. He would no longer be a iconic Nintendo character like Mario, Kirby or Samus. He would be a option. And I think he deserves better.
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Just put a dress on him again.

Problem solved.
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>>340983714

I sense some salt from this post.
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>>340983590
Misquoted, my bad. Regardless that phrase did absolutely spawn discussion about whether or not Link should be a girl. I was there. I saw it.
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>>340982268
because Samus Aran is a distinct person and Link is almost always a different person

1/2 and OoT/MM are the only ones that are the same, I think
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>>340983767
nicely put
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>>340983791
How was that game, I never played it.
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>>340982352
You say it's not dictated by sales figures, after admitting that they'll only change something if it's "worth" changing.

If he personally decides he wants Link to be a girl, then that's his decision. If the public convinces him instead, that's the money talking.

Articles from a few dozen people blogging and asking a question aren't representative of the community, they're representative of a few dozen people blogging. You're in the wrong place to cite Kotaku as a source.

On top of that, Aonuma saying Link is male means you showed them that you're not worth it.

I'm not looking to be right or wrong here. I'm telling you that if you want an established character in a fiction sold for money, you need to convince them that they'll make more money. It's a creative medium AND an industry, and Nintendo is very much more on the side of industry. If the creator of the series thinks that it is only creatively worth confirming that you're not getting what you want, you need to make them think it is financially worth it.
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Remember when moviebob went on an autistic rant about this?
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>>340967262
(Female chiming in here) doesn't matter at all, male and female are both okay but I'd like for him to be a girl for once.

I think growing up I would have appreciated being able to play as a female character, I could have a "hero/idol" if you will.

I think it's important to have a plethura of female character types out there, just as there is a huge variety of male characters...what it really comes down to is we all want to have some sort of representation in the media we enjoy.

It does not in anyway take away from my enjoyment of games (I went as one of my all time favorite video game characters for Halloween, Mario) if the character is male, but it would be nice to have more representation, or to be able to have the choice of genders if this is able to be fit into a game.

I would also like to see more minorities, but maybe I'm asking for too much:) lol
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>>340981963
Best of both worlds?
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>>340967262
shit game or shit game?
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>>340983972
I am a little salty that a big deal is being made about nothing, yes. And now we have to have this conversation for the umpteenth time. Just because some random homo posted a tweet of an opinion that was already expressed on this very board by regular anons. But I suppose if you have a twitter screencap, then that somehow makes the topic magically more pertinent.
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>>340983714
Thank you anon!
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>>340979476
Dumping comic
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>>340984170
Repetitive. You had to do the same level four times before actually being done with it and the single levels weren't even that varied themselves. Also some parts were a bit frustrating and the time challenges were quite hard.
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>>340984448
Then why turn an established male character into a chick to appease a minority of players
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>>340984474
Ruined
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>>340970396
yeah, /v/ doesn't buy games they actually like, I'd guess maybe 10% of shit posters have actually played the games they shitpost about
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>>340983767
>He would no longer be a iconic Nintendo character like Mario, Kirby or Samus. He would be a option. And I think he deserves better.
Exactly, this is the main reason why it would ruin Link as a whole.
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>>340984763
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>>340984170

It was alright.

Many people complain about the lack of communication and say you should only play with friends, but I found the chaotic nature of playing online more fun.

Besides that, it was pretty much Four Swords fused with ALBW.
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>>340976997
Ty
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>>340967262
fuck off with this genderbender meme

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>340984882
>I'd guess maybe 10% of shit posters have actually played the games they shitpost about
I always thought they would look up a summary of the game and watch about 20 minutes of gameplay while shitposting
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>>340984853
>>340985003
Oh right I forgot it had the forced multiplayer thing.
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>>340984960
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>>340983767

who the fuck cares you manchild
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>>340967262
>>340967737
>>340969520
>the new hero will be able to change genders at will
It'd be kind of cool if it were a curse that Ganon/the latest bad guy puts on Link to make him weaker. Maybe he even thinks it would make him unworthy to hold the Master Sword (It might for a time). But, as Linkle proves herself, she is eventually able to use the Master Sword with no problems and gains the Triforce Of Courage, which gives her/him the ability to switch at will. Thus, Link/Linkle can swap to female mode for speed and agility during a fight or swap back to male to deal massive damage.

Damn, that sounds cool. It could prove fun in the bedroom with Zelda, too!
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>>340981442
>image search brings nothing
Sweet jesus someone give me the sauce
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>>340982268
The real reason? It's a lore issue.

Samus is one person. Link is multiple people. The fact is that changing Samus into a male requires an actual transformation of a person that was born female into a male, while changing Link into a female does not.

Lorewise, "Link" doesn't even have a name. They are always referred to by their titles (Hero of Time/Winds/Light) or the player entered name. They're different people, which opens up the possibility of one of them being a female.

That's literally the only reason people target Link for this.
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>>340969520
>Post this
>Zero mentions of the sheikahs
Come on, the hero being able to change genders at will isn't too much of a far fetched idea
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>>340985289
How do you not recognize Incase?
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Can anons who ARENT sjwfucks wanting to ruin a character post Zelda art and talk about the game?
Please?
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>>340985121
You can actually get all the costumes without ever playing with anybody.
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>>340985298

Skyward Sword pretty much confirmed Link to always be male.

Hyrule Historia even more so, but whenever I bring it up it triggers everyone and they cry about it being a cheap non canon cash in.
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>>340985568
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>>340985760

When will we get a Link that looks as alpha as OoT Link?
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>>340985954
We already did in Twilight Princess
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>>340985760
Remind me, how does Skyward Sword or Hyrule Historia confirm this?

Something like that sounds like it could nip this issue in the bud if it was brought up more often.
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>>340983975
>I was there. I saw it

You're a special kind of crazy. That dumbass that probably takes credit in the first person for shit like if we didn't show up to WWII kind of person. You use the word I and We and though you take your opinion and make it seem as though it comes from the majority stand point and is not your own words. The problem with people like you, is they are ignorant to the world around them.

You were where, you saw what, the creation of a meme? Don't do this it's time to stop posting.
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>>340984262
>You say it's not dictated by sales figures, after admitting that they'll only change something if it's "worth" changing.
I mean creative worth. How implementing a change would increase the potential fun for the player. Worth doesn't only mean money.

>If the public convinces him instead, that's the money talking.
Not necessarily. Creative people take outside influence all the time. Aonuma even remarked on taking inspiration from Skyrim. Being swayed isn't always financially motivated. Sometimes you think that the people telling you something might be on to something good, so you open yourself to it.

>You're in the wrong place to cite Kotaku as a source.
Zelda Universe has done polls on this matter. The people that blog reach thousands of others, who affirm what the blog says.

>On top of that, Aonuma saying Link is male means you showed them that you're not worth it.
That could mean anything. Perhaps the Link he showed us was male, so he confirmed that much to be true. Remember when he was initially acting coy, before the confirmation? He also confirmed that over a year ago. Who knows what might have changed since then. He also rejected Linkle initially. Then later allowed it.

>I'm telling you that if you want an established character in a fiction sold for money, you need to convince them that they'll make more money.
I'm telling you that you're wrong. If there are no reasons not to implement a potentially audience pleasing feature, then one wouldn't necessarily need to make a financial appeal.
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>>340980280
They've already said he's a boy. Link has always been a boy and will always be one. There's no room for speculation or ambiguity on the issue, the rumors are a product of stupidity and nothing else.
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>>340983767
>They don't want a female Link, they want Link to be diluted to a shitty avatar in every main game. He would no longer be a iconic Nintendo character like Mario, Kirby or Samus. He would be a option. And I think he deserves better.

THIS.

What some of these "fans" are hoping for is a fucking character creator in a Zelda game.
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>>340986138

The Goddess Hylia reincarnating Link out of her love for him.

The only argument against this is

>UGH, IT'S 2016, GIRLS CAN LOVE GIRLS!
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>>340985760

>It's confirmed guys. Trust me.
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>>340985171
People that grew with the franchise. Having one Zelda were the hero is a female/male duo, a girl, a old Link or whatever the shit is fine. But the characters should be preserved. That adds some weight to female Link or whatever you want to call her and her game. She will be something of her own.

If Link is just a fucking avatar. Soon the choose your gender, turn into choose your fictional race, eye color, measures, hair, etc. The concept of Link dies with this.
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>>340986227
Son... you're having a hard time following. That's all. Don't start getting weirdly personal about it.
I meant I saw people having debates about Link's sex, years ago. I saw threads that would literally start with "what if Zelda was a girl?", with a picture of Link, and then the thread would go right into a discussion about female Link. I've been in these trenches, having the same conversation, covering the same arguments for years.

That is why I say it isn't an issue now. It has been an issue for a long time.
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I'm so scared for the localization of this game.

This is the first mainline Zelda since Treehouse hit new levels of pure shit, censorship, memery, and hired that SJW Atlus didn't want.
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>>340986363
The potential audience you speak of on this matter, does not buy video games. You talk about video games, but you never will actually buy them and play them, you'll just critique them, because it makes you feel like a special snowflake narcissistic cunt who feels as though they are affluent in any subject including one they don't buy into. It's like being a yelp reviewer, you just can't fucking help yourselves.
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>>340986789

There's nothing arguing against it.

The only way they'd write around it, is if Nintendo had a good reason to make Link a girl, which they don't.
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>>340983767

What, you don't want Zelda:Awakening?

I can't wait to get all duh waifus! such a nerd xD
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>>340973840
>self diagnosed depression
Stop acting like a special snow flake, faggot. Everyone in the world gets upset every now and then
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>>340985760
>>340986138
>>340986654
>"Though this is not the end. My hate... never perishes. It is born anew in a cycle with no end! I will rise again. Those like you... Those who share the blood of the goddess and the spirit of the hero... They are eternally bound to this curse. An incarnation of my hatred shall ever follow your kind, dooming them to wander a blood-soaked sea of darkness for all time!" — Demise

The hero's "spirit" reincarnates. A spirit is not attached to a specific physical form.
Zelda's "blood" passes down the goddess's lineage.
And Demises "hatred" reincarnates.
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>>340985212
That sounds actually kind of fun
Too bad It'll never happen

Also that art is fucking awful.
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>character never speaks
>gender never matters
>reincarnation of a spirit
>feminine frame

Gee golly guys adding a female option would ruin EVERYTHING. Plus all that extra work Nintendo would have to do!
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>>340967262

It's been a boy every game except that one shitty CD-I game sooooooooooo.

Who cares it's going to suck because OoT ruined the entire franchise and we're in an endless loop of Nintendo trying to repeat that game for the 3D series.
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This thread reminds me to that video of Link that gets turned into a girl and then gets fucked by Ganon
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>>340987672

"Hero" not "Heroine".
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>>340986994
You tell me not to get personal, but then you spout off about years on arguments on this subject. You're fucking crazy is what you are, years on the same argument over a video game characters gender. Go back to tumbler with a handle ID so people know to avoid you. This is an anonymous image board. You're words when you say having the same conversation or covering the same argument for years, makes you seem like a narcissistic crazy faggot that wants to have weight in their opinion.
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>>340983767
>I wouldn't mind having one instance of a female lead Zelda.

That already happened
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>>340987806
It wouldn't change a damn thing either so it is pointless.
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>>340987047
Can they really fuck up one of their main IPs? Have they ever changed things on Zelda to that extent?

My biggest problem with their E3 is watching the treehouse fuckers playing. I hope it's some neutral party hosting. Like the ones that do those news update series for the 3DS and Wii U. My antipathy for the localization team is so big these days that their presence would take part of the enjoyment of seeing the game properly for the 1st time.
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>>340967262
Gender doesn't exist in society OP, please get with the times. Like, seriously, welcome to 2016.
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Fuck link, when's Linkle getting her own game?

We don't need a world ending scenario in order to play a zelda game, so why not just have an adventure game where she's gotta find a treasure to save her poor village from starving or something?
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>>340987203
>The potential audience you speak of on this matter, does not buy video games.
That's a convenient line that many people use around here. You say that, because it allows you to assume that everyone who doesn't echo your beliefs are "others". You can't deal with the fact that people who think differently than you are a part fanbase. That the people who will likely buy the next game no matter what, would still like a gender option, because it makes the game more fun for them.
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Instead of link being a chick, why don;t they just make zelda playable?

checkmate sjws
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>>340987806
It would add absolutely nothing while changing a preexisting character for the worse. It's a stupid idea and the "BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER SO IT SHOULD CHANGE" people are fucking insane. If it doesn't matter then it shouldn't be changed. End of fucking discussion.
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>>340986994
>>340987806
This is why /v/ needs IDs.
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Americans are so brainwashed by caw of doody big burly manly men with vibrators up their asses 24/7 that they can't look at a drawing of a feminine male without thinking it's a woman. Even when you tell them otherwise, multiple times.

Undertale tier autism.
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>>340986363
It's been shown by your own anecdotes that the "potential audience" you speak of isn't big enough for any kind of appeal, and all I've been saying is to prove it is or simply make it bigger.

But if you want to be "right" for an "argument" then by all means, sit there and do nothing. I'll play some boy Link in a few months, completely secure in the idea that established characters are relatable even without a shallow need for them to be my own gender.
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>>340987742
>Also that art is fucking awful.
Yeah, it was the only applicable TG art I could find in my stash in such short notice. Here's something, though.
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>>340987960
Well, I'm glad we confirmed your newfaggotry.
>Dude lmao! What are you doing actually browsing this site?!
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>>340988094
Linkle is such a stupid fucking name
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>>340988403
That isn't that much better. Being into TG myself though I know our options are pretty limited.
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>>340974837
Don't kid yourself. Link is not a character.
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>>340970182
would play
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>>340967737
>>340976156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzfNrkJ-3mE
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>>340987806

It would turn Zelda into a self insert WRPG with zero interesting NPCs or moral choices.

You won't be Link, you'd be generic moralfag #37.
It would be FE or Pokemon tier, you'd be locked into doing whatever the hell the games want you to do.

At least with the previous games, you were playing as "Link the hero" not some OC fuccboi that's different for every person, so there's a reason you do what you do, you're roleplaying as him.
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>>340988094
And since we are delaying Zelda U, we are happy to announce Linkle crossbow training! Now on the eshop.
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>>340987672

Is Hylia the one reincarnating the Hero's Spirit? I always thought she was part of the cycle, not the one perpetuating it. Hylia reincarnates as Zelda usually, and Demise's hatred keeps coming back on its own.

So who exactly is the one that keep bringing in the Hero's Spirit?
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>>340987806
>feminine frame
He doesn't look feminine at all, get your head out of your ass.
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>>340988456
stupid fucking character so it fits.
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>>340988162
Why would it make the game more fun, no one gives a shit about adding a character creator to an iconic series. What don't you get about that. If they played the series of games they would know this, they are simply making a huff over a series they know nothing about. Wanna know how the fans know this is garbage, because it would kill an iconic character, only people who have never played the series would see no problem with this. That's why your opinion is instantly thrown in the garbage, because we fucking know you don't play the game you just critique you fucking yelper, I hope the next place you eat they rub the bread all over their nutsacks.
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>>340987047
I'm worried too, famicom.

>mfw people are actually looking forward to watching Treehouse play games this week
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>>340987573
But anon, we all /Crippling Depression/ now
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Why do you want Link to be female?
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>>340988282
>Preexisting character

People distinguish Link by game, so why cant NX Link be male or female?
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>>340988761
I dont, I want him to be the same.
Like a real Zelda fan..
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>>340988761
I don't.
I like Link when he's a cute twink.
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>>340988389
>It's been shown by your own anecdotes that the "potential audience" you speak of isn't big enough for any kind of appeal,
Quite the opposite. When even the devs you work for try to push a female Link on you, then even Aonuma has to realize there is a substantial demand. But I know you won't agree that's substantial. So eh... I guess we've hit a dead end.

I think you have the idea that I'm passing up the game if it doesn't have a female option? I don't know where you got that idea from. I'm still going to play it regardless.
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>>340988637
I want to fuck Din
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>>340988670
Are you saying Zelda U Link doesnt look feminine?
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Why isn't there a male Metroid?
Why does Metroid have to be a girl?
I can't relate to this, change it.
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>>340988812
no link is link
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>>340987806
>gender never matters
Fuck off. Link is subdued, but his interactions with others always take his gender in account. In "Zelda: are you a boy or a girl?" that would be gone or they would need different paths, different dialogue or a bisexual lead.
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>>340979767
>the cursed child stage play
>having ANY input by Rowling
come on man
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>>340988761
I don't. It's a terrible idea that only pathetic numales think is acceptable.
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>>340988670
/v/ has selective memory.
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>>340981937
Why did link never wear anything but a shirt until he got older or became a cartoon?
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>>340977809
He has more than Mario.
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>>340980381
You missed the point.
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>>340988501
Indeed.
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>>340988606
>you were playing as "Link the hero" not some OC fuccboi that's different for every person, so there's a reason you do what you do, you're roleplaying as him.
Skyward Sword already set up the canon story so that they can make anyone Link. He just happens to have been male in every timeline thus far, but it's theoretically possible the soul could be born into a woman.

Not that I really see any reason for it to change either. Make Zelda the protagonist if need be, don't just arbitrarily make Link female. She already showed she was competent enough as a Sheik in OoT. Surely there must be some use to the Triforce of Wisdom too beyond forcing the wielder to get captured.
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>>340988501
Try here: http://kdingo.net/champ/pics/main.php
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>>340988997
Your argument is stupid and the simile doesn't apply at all.

I'm all out if you want to argue against this, but next time you do, at least pretend you know something.
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>Someone post twitter screencap from literally who involving stupid shit about Link being female
>"Why can't this happen, /v/?"
>"Fuck off retard"
>"I-I'm not saying it NEEDS to happen, just that it would be cool and I, and many people, would like it a lot"
>"But it adds literally nothing"
>"But it takes away literally nothing!"

There, I just summed up any and all posts made in 95% or these threads.
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>>340988996
No. Not even a little. If you can't tell the difference between a twink and a woman then you need to have your head examined.
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another thread with Zeldafags and their mental gymnastics to push their self-insert/headcanon.

how swell.
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>>340988637
Hylia just wanted to try out a lesbian partner for a change. She's gone numerous timelines with a male Link, so she's going through her bisexual phase now. It all makes perfect sense now.
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>>340979221
Yes he is. It's right in the beginning of the game.
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>>340988997
only if captain falcon is a woman.
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>>340988812
It can sure. As long as they make the game around that. Having one or more female Links in the future is no problem. Having a half assed character creator is.
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Fuck off, "others"
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>>340988761
Better porn
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>>340987806
The whole point of Link's reincarnation is that no matter the place or time, he's always there to save the day. Just slapping tits on him is straight up lazy and cheapens the lore.

Even if Link was originally female, I still wouldn't want her to be made male now just to pander to casuals who won't get past the first dungeon anyway (assuming they even buy the game in first place, of course).
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>>340972707
Are video games really necessary?
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>>340988761
dumb weebs from tumblr want it
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>>340989238
Yeah I know about him. He rarely updates, even on his Tumblr. When he does it's usually pretty boring these days, a lot more tame than most of the stuff on his site. There is plenty of good TG, don't get me wrong, just not too many artists that consistently do it.

Appreciate the link all the same.
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>>340967262
I don't get it. What am I supposed to be seeing?
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>>340985212
That would be perfect.
Nintendo please add.
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>>340988881
>like a real zelda fan

hah!

link shouldn't be female, but the series is in desperate need of changes if nintendo wants to keep it going.
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>Solution to all of this would be to make a spin off title with Linkle

And then when it doesn't sell they can tell everyone I told you so.
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>>340989307
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Holy fuck, can this stop?

I give no flying fucks about Link's gender.

The arguments against it are fucking stupid
The ones defending it are headcannon faggots who just want their fanfiction realised.

Everybody loses. The only thing that matters is if the game is actually good or not.
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>>340989307
I'm not sure what your picture has to do with anything that anyone here was talking about.
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>>340988973
The result of that "substantial" demand is Aonuma saying he won't be a girl.

If you're not passing up the game, you don't really care. So why argue on a Chinese lottery ticket reading forum that it has to happen, simply because some uselessly small amount of people want it?

Since this isn't really going anywhere because you think it should happen with effectively zero support because "why not lol," let's just leave it at this: You're not as important as you think you are, creatively or otherwise.
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>>340988637
I'm not going to pretend to have all the answers. But the way i understand it is: Zelda from SS was the only true reincarnation of Hylia. But after that, they're all regular offspring. Hylia herself is dead for good. Each Zelda inherits the light though, as apparent by the fact every Zelda has light powers in the game.

So I don't think Hylia is actually perpetuating anything. I think the rebirth of these figures is more nebulous. There isn't a hard mechanic we can point to. We can only say that they come back around the same time.
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>>340988761
secondary reasons
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>>340979880
DISCUTIR POR TODO PELEAR UNA EXTRAÑA MANERA DE AMAR
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>>340988456
Seriously, no effort was put into that name.
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