Whatever happened to these gimmicks?
Are people even playing with them?
What's the future for them?
Still not shipped
beating my dick raw to the few bits of good porn (its on another level). Unused otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ0JTkBZdyw
this shit is fun as fuck.
>>340922610
Which one is better for what porn? Animu preferred.
>>340923057
most is headset agnostic, just videos. Not played a lot of animu porn games, as its just 3d models and not 2d style cell shading. I imagine the vive would be better though for 3d games.
>>340922384
Skyrim and VR makes me cum
>>340923358
Yes and no. The roomscale implementation takes space to set it up, and you can trip over the wires.
t. current Vive owner
Vive is an open platform.
Oculus is not.
>>340923672
I don't feel like shelling out for VorpX just to play Skyrim.
>>340922938
I was pretty unimpressed. It doesn't feel right. Unless you can bring an actual physical table in your room.
>>340923989
You spend fucking $800/$600 on a vive/oculus yet are too cheap to spend $40 to have compatibility with a shitload of games?
Vorpx and its new compatibility with vive is the only reason i even bought one. I doubt good dedicated VR games will be out until at least 2018 or 2019.
>>340923806
Would you say this purchase was worth it, or did you fall for a meme?
>>340922384
>$799
jesus fuck
>>340924641
Other owner here.
It's like buying a new console with no launch titles.
There literally isnt shit for content for the Vive, outside the couple games that act more like tech demos than anything.
>>340924641
It's not a meme for me since I play sim games, but you are going to be disappointed if you don't play sim games at all.
>>340924641
Not him, but own both headsets. Neither are legitimately worth it, but VR will be. It's just going to take another 5 years. If you have any doubts whatsoever you really shouldn't get one, only if you have plenty of money to burn and/or are legitimately a sim player should you consider it.
>>340925307
>>340925037
>>340924942
Have you guys used vorpx and played any games (skyrim, battlefield, stalker, etc)? How do they feel?
>>340925037
I play a lot of DCS and IL-2 but don't know if the price is worth it. also porn.
what is the cheapest option for a decent PC capable of running the HTC vive?
i want to play skyrim badly.
>>340925606
Yes. Skyrim, Dishonored, and GTA V mainly. I'm very motion sickness sensitive, though, so sometimes I have to go to peek or virtual cinema mode to play longer. It's not really that bad that way, still pretty immersive as a large 3D screen.
>>340926097
There is no cheap option. Not recommended to play any non-native games on merely a decent PC. Those require better graphics cards. And there's a reason most of the native VR games look like shit.
>>340925482
Everything in human history has lead up to this point. How blessed am I to be alive to reap the fruits of countless human discoveries.
Goodbye 3d world and good riddance.
>>340922938
>800 dollary doos to play VR pool
It's a whole lot cheaper just to buy your own pool table.
>>340926987
someone please link me to a prebuilt good enough to play skyrim, GTA 5 and other FPSs on VR.
i tried the samsung VR recently and it was better than i expected.
oculus is shit, get a vive. it's an expensive toy, but fun.
>>340927507
I've been too lazy to set that up myself for my Vive, but I think I need to know. This is it, I have no reason to live in real life anymore.
>>340927832
>prebuilt
Save some money and make it yourself.
Rift owner here. I'm glad I fell for the meme, enjoying is a lot. It's uphill from here.
Stay salty sour grape fags.
Can the Samsung gear be used on a PC? Hopefully getting one for free and i'd love to be able to use it just for head tracking in something likeElite Dangerous
>>340928076
last time i did that was at school, i dont want to screw it up.
how much approximately would the components cost?
>>340925482
VR seems to be advancing nicely. I'd like to see where this goes in the future.
>inb4 people end up protesting and trying to end VR porn when it becomes popular
>>340927832
logicalincrements.com and build your own. For high-end graphic cards all prebuilts are total ripoffs.
>>340928342
no, but its worth it just to use google street view and look around places you have been or want to visit.
>>340927507
You can't touch.
What's the point?
>>340928342
yes, through tritnus vr.
It doesnt work all that well as you get a lot of drift though
>>340928897
One step at a time anon.
>>340926987
Are you one of those overdignified gaymers who wont play elite dangerous because we hate frontier or did you try it in the vive ? Only had a go in the dk2 and this shit was mind shattering.
>>340928897
I can't touch the images I fap to on my computer screen, yet that doesn't stop me from cumming buckets.
Once the VR gose into full swing, I expect the AI to follow. I want my japanese salary man experience so I can come home to a qt animu girl in nothing but a apron.
>>340928897
ever been to a strip club ?
>>340929370
Huh? Did you link to the wrong post? I love E:D and was a backer.
>>340929584
Depending on the strip club you will touch and even fuck.
Also strip clubs are retarded, just get a hooker.
>>340929152
Full-body physical contact is NEVER EVER. Like there isn't even the faint idea on how to do it.
>>340929535
>I can't touch the images I fap to on my computer screen, yet that doesn't stop me from cumming buckets.
Which is exactly why current VR isn't that exciting or revolutionary as that guy was implying.
>>340922384
Do you exist in a space where you are oblivious to your retardation?
I love my Vive. It is a cool piece of tech to have if you can afford it. If you can't, you make threads acting like they gimmicks...
Do you know what the word gimmicks means?
They do exactly what they are designed to do. They do it best that can be accomplished apparently at this time. I look forward to 2nd and 3rd gen.
You are poor. 6-800 is not a lot of money, Can squirrel that away in short time I am sure if you tried. I guess if you are a child it is a little harder.
>>340928342
It will look like shit and feel like shit with the gear , it really isnt worth it but if youre getting it for free I dont see a downside in trying.
>>340929594
I didnt see you talk about ed with the vive so I assumed you were a part of the group of people who hate the developers for quote " Making the game into a massive grind you only play to get to bigger ships "
But how was your experience with the vive then ? I could float around ring systems for hours in VR.
>>340930286
>look at me I can predict future technological advances
This is what you're saying. You sound like the people who used to say space travel was impossible.
>>340927681
Go to bar.
>>340930563
I wasn't talking about E:D, because the guy was specifically asking about injected games, not games in general.
I haven't tried it in the Vive anyway, because I have a Rift as well. Anything seated, the Rift is much better, and I know Frontier has broken Vive compatibility once or twice so safer to just use the Rift.
>>340930657
>HURR DURR technology is magic, if I can think of it, it WILL happen for sure!
Care to name some consumer-grade technology that didn't have decades of prototypes and theories behind it?
Even the head-mounted display we are talking about in this thread is just an refinement of something that has existed since at least the 80's.
The best shoot at realistically simulating the sense of touch, is to go full Matrix, and we both know it's retarded.
>>340925037
>>340925679
Exactly. I bought mine pretty much with DCS and iRacing in mind. Already blown away by DCS so every other thing I can use it with is just gravy. I got vorpX and now a whole shitload of other titles are open to me. Hell this is well worth it. Every person I have let try it loves it. I support the tech because I want to improve. I want 2nd and 3rd gen to come out.
I also am buying a 3d camera to film chicks I fuck will be great to relive moments in VR that I actually experienced in RL
this tech may or may not be a hit success but its the pioneering technology that will lead to some crazy shit.
at least we took the first step to real VR/AR
>>340930286
>Full-body physical contact is NEVER EVER. Like there isn't even the faint idea on how to do it.
That's not quite true. Ultrasound haptics have made some progress in recent years. Being able to just feel things on your entire body does have a path. What can't happen is physical contact that can stop your body, such as a wall you can't force yourself through or a virtual pool table you can lean on.
>>340931080
Id rather not buy so many headsets , which is why I ask about ed and the vive. If I buy the oculus for seated and the vive for standing I would feel bad for not just picking the better one of both.
>>340924421
"compatibility"
>>340930435
Get a load of this shill, kek.
>>340932360
stay poor anon.
>>340932094
Yeah, I'm talking about the full package.
There is also the matter of heat and roughness.
>>340932026
How can you be so sure?
What "crazy shit" do you have in mind?
>>340930286
>Full-body physical contact is NEVER EVER
Augmented reality, m8. Just layer cute girls over bags of sand.
>>340923806
How are the controllers?
>>340932160
Ok, I'll check it out, but it's not really going to tell you anything you don't already know. The Vive is just fine, you tried it in the DK2, right?
>>340932539
stay retarded anon
>>340932745
And then your parents walk in on you furiously fucking a fleshlight shoved into a pile of sandbags while wearing your headset.
>>340931459
please stop posting until you've googled haptic feedback, you literal retard
How long until pic related happens? With the suits and everything.
>>340925679
Come to /simg/ on >>>/vg/thread/145116737
>>340926097
at least about $2000 minimum
VR is not something you want to cheap out on otherwise you will get physically sick from low fps
Either go hard or go home.
>>340932579
Ultrasound can do roughness. Heat wouldn't be impossible, but I can't really see it being practical. Your mind can fool yourself for that anyway. That would be something like smell, where I see the added cost for the value it adds would simply not be worth it to most people unless the cost it adds is negligible.
How is virtual desktop and vr theaters?
>>340933398
>$2000 minimum
Are you baiting us anon?
>>340932906
Vive controller is the best VR controllers that I've held, but the battery life is only 4 hr of nonstop use. It's essentially a cross of wiimote with the steam controller's touchpad, and I got no qualm about it. Feels pretty solid in hand.
>>340933695
Hopefully the Touch controllers can match Vive or be even better. They look really comfy to use.
>>340932912
Yep. I tried it in the dk2 then bought a razer osvr for development , also tried ED with it. The experience was exactly the same as the dk2 except head tracking fucking sucked.
Being able to walk around your cockpit with the vive's tracking must be pretty neat , besides the resolution problems ive been hearing about , the vive really does seem like a superior choice no matter what type of game you feel like playing.
But I havent tried it so I cant say for sure.
>>340933645
well in australia its about $2000 minimum if you want a decent i5 and a 1070 to go with it.
>>340933645
He's partly baiting. You will want to have a rig fitted with GTX 1070 or RX 480 with crossfire. Expect to spend a grand on the rig if you want to use VorpX to run those older titles without native VR support due to overhead involved. Otherwise, a $500-600 rig with a single card ought to do it.
>>340922384
In the dump, where all overpriced gimmicky shit goes
>>340922384
VR has no games
>>340933645
Including the headset, not really. You're going to want a 1070 at the very least and for injected games I would recommend a 1080 to be safe.
>>340934021
>gimmicky shit
You don't consider sim as games then.
Buying the first generation of new technology is a stupid idea. It's way more expensive and shitty now than it will be in 1-2 years. I guess if you've got the money to blow then go for it, but it's a waste of money.
>>340925482
THIS SHIT WORKS IN VIVE?
HOLY FUCK
>>340922384
>600 dollars
>for something you could get by just putting a phone up to your head and putting a piece of paper in the middle
INNOVATION everyone.
>>340933498
Convincing, impressive, but lower res than your normal monitor. Having a fucking gigantic screen in VR is what makes it cool.
>>340928413
You could easily build a VR ready PC for under $900
>>340933645
Somewhat baiting. You need a top tier GPU + CPU and everything that comes with such things.
so 1000 to 2000 woulnt be surprising.
>>340934138
Don't deny this.
Minecraft, Elite: Dangerous, and War Thunder support AR natively, as with Custom maid 3D 2. All of these are not considered games by the mainstream.
>>340934281
I bought a google cardboard the other day, it was alright
convince me an oculus rift is woth 60 times the cost
>>340934281
that's a silly thing to say.
you know those aren't the same.
you're just trying to be edgy.
>>340934281
Fuck no. Your phone can't do head tracking. Get back to me when Project tango phones finally become common.
>>340922384
>Gimmicks
I'm so tired of these posts OP, stop trying to single handedly crusade against VR.
As of today there are currently around 250 VR games, demos and experiences on Steam.
VorpX allows you to play existing games in VR on either headset.
Earlier today I played GTA V and Alien Isolation in VR and thoroughly enjoyed every well spent penny.
>>340934628
envoy your eye cancer
What do you do with them? its like shipping a console but not releasing any games for it until years later. And who would do such a thing?
>>340923989
Bought VorpX last night and spent today playing GTAV and Alien Isolation, their list of supported games is huge.
>>340934628
Nah. Why should I convince you to alpha test when you are happy with just phone apps?
>>340924942
>There literally isnt shit for content for the Vive
Fake as fuck
>>340934691
Until it's as intuitive as leaning back in a comfy chair and looking at a screen, it's a gimmick.
Right now it's a heavy, bulky, expensive unit that makes your face sweat.
This is why motion controls were a gimmick: they weren't more intuitive than pushing your finger down 1/8 mm to press a button.
>>340934691
Yeah, people calling vr a gimmick makes as much sense as calling a console a gimmick, or a controller.
It's a different medium than the typical way of playing vidya
On /v/ different=gimmick and liking something=shilling
>>340935035
>heavy
Have you even tried it
>>340927681
>>800 dollary doos to play VR pool
>It's a whole lot cheaper just to buy your own pool table.
Unfortunately, a real pool table requires a lot of space, unlike VR pool, which requires the same amount of space.
>>340935126
I got to try an Oculus at a tech demo; thing was so heavy it made the back of my neck hurt.
>>340935035
>Until it's as intuitive as leaning back in a comfy chair and looking at a screen, it's a gimmick.
Could you be any more retarded? VR with motion controls and head tracking is BY FUCKING DEFINITION intuitive.
The starting screen of VorpX is literally a living room scene where you are sitting on a couch looking at a giant screen.
To operate menus in VR you POINT at things and click the triggers. It couldn't be any more intuitive.
>>340923672
How did you fix the FOV issues? I had to shrink the UI to an almost unreadable scale to see all the HUD elements.
cost a fuckload, sucks for FPS and any FPP game where you need to tun around much cause motion sickness, and you can only play tech demo/shovelware on them
What the hell is this VR is like a console with no games meme ?
Its not a console , its a fucking screen.
>>340935035
It's a lot more intuitive than me trying to setup head tracking with say hydra or other systems and then hooking up multiple monitors just for the sake of immersion. I admit, that's a gimmick for anyone that isn't into sim.
It's already here for me as I play Flight Simulator X, which isn't a game to you.
>>340935258
You're gonna need better bait than that anon.
>>340935258
>numale pencil cuck detected
>>340935604
It does suck for FPS, CSGO slav and CoD kiddies. Once again, that's mainstream games right there.
>>340935604
>cost a fuckload
You sound poor
>sucks for FPS
Who the fuck would wanna play fast paced fps games on vr ?
>only tech demo
Just to name 3 games : Asseto corsa , War Thunder , Elite Dangerous.
>>340933895
Ok, I'm back. Yeah, Rift is still better than Vive in this game. I had to turn setting to VR Low, text is still less legible, but not too bad. It's still better than the DK2, of course.
>Being able to walk around your cockpit with the vive's tracking must be pretty neat , besides the resolution problems ive been hearing about , the vive really does seem like a superior choice no matter what type of game you feel like playing.
Rift you can walk around just fine, it covers all of my play area. What makes the Vive different is really the controllers, not roomscale. They make a tremendous difference for the games that use them, but E:D isn't one of those games. But yeah, if you only want one, get the Vive. I'd say only say get a Rift only, if you don't do development and really only intend to play sims.
>>340935945
Don't bother talking to him about it. He doesn't think anything aside from mainstream FPS are actually games. God forbid those who play Euro Truck simulator at that. That's work!
>>340932745
That doesn't really feel like anything like a real girl.
>>340933486
It still doesn't fix the core problem.
>>340935056
that's like saying 3D is not a gimmick
>>340925482
I need to know what this is called. anon. pls.
>>340922384
they're really blurry, i'm gonna wait till they're 4K.
>"Check out our awesome dual screen gimmick!"
>Few games actually use it
>"Check out our awesome waggle gimmick!"
>Few games actually use it
>"Check out OUR awesome waggle gimmick!"
>Few games actually use it
>"Check out our awesome Kinect sensor gimmick!"
>Few games actually use it
>"Check out our awesome 3D gimmick!"
>Few games actually use it
>"Check out our awesome rear touchpad gimmick!"
>Few games actually use it
>"Check out our awesome tablet controller gimmick!"
>Few games actually use it
>"Check out our awesome controller touchpad gimmick!"
>Few games actually use it
>"Check out our awesome IMPROVED Kinect sensor gimmick!"
>Few games actually use it
>"Check out our awesome VR headset gimmick!"
>Few games actually use it
When the fuck will hardware makers learn? The last "gimmick" to bring anything worthwhile to the table was fucking Ethernet in the early 2000s.
Just fucking make good, exclusive games that play on a normal controller. No third party is going to develop anything good for your shitty revolutionary biometric VR dildo touch controller.
>>340936560
(You)
>>340935964
I don't totally agree with you. Vive allows you to plug in other 3.5mm headsets, which is a plus as I use better headsets.
I do agree that E:D doesn't take advantage of roomscale. Actually, most racing or plane sims wouldn't. Roomscale is only really used for those techdemos or wii knockoff games right now.
>>340936560
You can simulate a way bigger screen than you actually have, the problem currently is the resolution like i said here: >>340936523
>E:D
Isn't E:D universally considered a bad/dull game, VR or not VR?
>>340936560
>Dual screen gimmick
I multi-monitor on PC. That shit's no gimmick. 21:9 meme is well proven at that.
Sorry, your 16:9 single display world is too restrictive.
>>340936560
>Ethernet
>a gimmick
what unreality do you live in and how can I get in on that action?
>>340936368
>It still doesn't fix the core problem.
What exactly is the core problem to you? Its possible to get ultrasound to work just fine for waifus. You'd be able to force yourself past her skin if you want to, but I'm sure that's actually better for some fetishes.
>>340937003
It is. It's the only space sim that supports VR natively right now though. Star Citizen is vaporware so it doesn't count.
Anyone using either the Vive or Rift for DCS or IL-2? If so how do you like it?
>>340922384
It's fun, plain and simple.
Doesn't have shit ton of games yet, but more are coming out.
If the purchase is a large impact on your funds, then it's not worth it. If you have the spending cash, then it's 100% worth it. Plain and simple. You'll have fun with it and aside from games you'll get to check out VR porn and shit like VR desktop, etc.
>>340937183
EVE Valkyrie doesn't count as space sim right?
>>340937361
It kind of doesn't. It's really shitty anyway, and now that it isn't free, not worth getting.
>>340925482
FFFFFFFFFFFF
>>340937361
How do you like it? I never tried the title.
>>340937183
House of the Dying Sun.
>>340935964
Thanks for trying it out mate , I probably will get the vive later this year. Ever since node played it I really wanted to try out Budget Cuts.
I also got a bunch of ideas for small vr games and the lack of a good headset with controllers ( the osvr is good enough to develop vr experiences on but lacks controllers and good head tacking ) really hinders anything I could do with controllers.
>>340937003
Only by reddit and /v/. The game isnt dull though , its just not as rewarding and forgiving as most modern games are.
Like you can literally have to start from the beggining if you fuck around too much , you cant rush your way to imaginary rewards and basically to have fun you need to enjoy the game and not the reward that comes after playing said game.
that and a bunch of poor business decisions triggered alot of people and now the game gets review bombed and generally hated by the gaymer community.
Meanwhile people who just want a space sim in which you get a spaceship and then are given no further instructions will enjoy it alot. 600 hours in and im not bored yet.
Pic related.
>>340937150
Having sex with something that doesn't feel like a ghost.
Groping her tits in a satisfying manner, butt-slapping her plump ass, embracing her and feel her body, penetrating her and feel the wetness and resistance of her tight pussy, doing cowgirl and feeling her weight.
In general having the virtual world being able to apply forces on you, like what happens in reality.
>>340937657
It's cool. First few times you're most likely gonna get a little sick because of the way you twist and turn while you're in a dogfight. It's enjoyable, but haven't played it much lately.
>>340937150
>You'd be able to force yourself past her skin
I have the most massive same size vore boner rn
>>340938085
I don't want to go 3DPD with this. I've fapped to 2D, and maintaining a level of detachment except onahole is more than enough to me.
>yfw you didn't fall for the VR meme
>>340925482
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/5351901
>>340938310
The third dimension is a second dimensional illusion anon.
>>340938472
HOLY SHIT
>>340938335
>mfw I fell for the VR meme
>>340935623
Games need to support it, so it's not that simple. Also they say games need to be made specifically for it, therefore nogaems
>>340933645
Eh the vive itself is $900 and change after taxes/shipping, a decent enough computer to run it all is around $800-900. Then all the stupid games on it are overpriced right now as there are so few.
I've easily spent an extra $200 on games and although they certainly aren't worth what people are charging for them even simple arcade type games are very fun in VR.
>>340938085
>Groping her tits in a satisfying manner, butt-slapping her plump ass, embracing her and feel her body
You could probably do these with ultrasound well enough. There should be enough resistance, that you'll withdraw before penetrating the field, unless you like being really, really rough. The last bits really only matter if you've had sex before, for the majority of users they'd probably be fine with an onahole.
>>340935945
$800 to be able to pay shovelware is too much
also there are other shooters than multiplayer shit retard, games like STALKER
In the future just a pair of AR glasses and a prostitute and you're good to go. Shit, maybe that'll even be a market in the future - where there are people who are paid to essentially role play behind an incredibly real looking avatar. There's already people who get paid to cuddle. AR will fit into that easily.
>>340922938
>Pool
>Not snooker
>>340939107
>prostitute
I think you mean sexbot.
>>340938876
>>340938310
>>340939107
There's USB onahole accessories available already to pair with Oculus Rift. You can get by with a realdoll or a blowup doll maybe?
>>340922384
psvr $299
>>340939090
If they arent fast paced shooters I dont see the problem. You can play Arma 3 just fine with the vive , I dont see why you couldnt stalker with a bit of tinkering.
>shovelware
Its almost as if you dont know what that means.
>>340939107
>Shit, maybe that'll even be a market in the future - where there are people who are paid to essentially role play behind an incredibly real looking avatar.
Teledildonics will be a very important word in the future.
>>340938310
It's not about 3DPD. It's about stimulating a sense that's been touched so far.
That's the core point of the whole discussion.
You horsed around about the whole thing trying to find excuses on excuses, just to end, when cornered, with a "I d-d-didn't want it anyway".
Again what's the point of VR if you're still just looking with your cock in hand.
Oh and by the way, VR is actually worse for 2D porn.
>>340938876
How much strength can ultrasounds even withstand?
>>340939379
Lies. $400 for the unit itself, $500 for the bundle. Try better if you want to shill.
>>340939379
all of those are boats
>>340939509
depends on the ultrasound.
Just got in the thread, but I have experience with ultrasound haptic technology. It doesn't remotely come close to being able to simulate a big enough force. At most, it feels like a soft blow of wind you'd get from whistling. And that's just the amount of force. You can't simulate different textures or types of force.
>>340939379
where are the boats?
>>340938335
>>340939652
Rotting at the bottom of the Pacific.
Pokemon Snap style game with VR
Not sure what franchise could make a snap-like game though
>>340939832
Nintendo will not unto serious VR.
They don't cater to that audience.
HTC please get more retail demos out. Oculus has, get it together.
>>340939639
this. being able to generate ultrasounds that would feel like solid objects would probably mean you have created some type of weapon.
does anyone thing oculus will mention at all their horrible shipping performance at e3 tomorrow?
>>340939632
What's the maximum strength?
Can you easily break it by simply close your hand?
>>340937150
>>340932745
>>340938085
>>340938310
>>340938876
>>340939376
I openly support VR (CV1 Rift owner here, been with it since the launch of the DK2). The porn is nice and cool and all, and it's definitely an entirely different experience (same goes for the waifu simulator illusion h-games), but it is NOT a proper substitute for real, intimate human interaction.
You can't feel the warmth of your waifu when you go in to hug her. You can't smell her new shampoo or perfume. You can't feel her warm breath tickle your neck when you hold her close. You can't feel her hand when you hold it.
It doesn't matter how advanced the technology becomes. Unless we're talking direct neurostimulation, it's not going to be a proper substitute at all.
VR porn can be fun, but it won't help you feel.
VR is stupid. I've used a Rift devkit 2 and a Vive and got major motion sickness within three minutes on both of them. Technology that does that will never catch on.
>>340939415
VR games definitely fit the bill for shovelware.
youtube.com/watch?v=fQ0JTkBZdyw
>>340940154
>got major motion sickness within three minutes on both of them
Sounds like you're the one with the major issues mate.
>>340939246
>>340939376
>>340939448
Robotics has a long way to go, and so does AI, but I think AR is actually much closer. If you look at the field of computer vision (which is the core of how you enable AR to sense and modify the world), it's actually quite close to being able to, in real time with low enough latency, scan and process individuals. Heck, even the latest version of Kinect which is a few years old now can do it somewhat jankily. You can see how this field will evolve in a few years. On the other hand, robotics and AI are far behind what we want in order to simulate a living human being.
>>340940269
Not the three I named.
>>340940269
>posting the one where everything was cherrypicked
I don't expect any of you fucks to have watched the full actual stream but the consensus was overwhelmingly positive. Also if you wear either headset to the point it's indenting in your face, you're wearing it wrong.
>>340940154
You may be defective
>>340940269
Look everyone! He posted the video again! That proves he knows what he's talking about!
>>340939947
That's why I said "Not sure what franchise could make a snap-like game though"
Because Nintendo doesn't do that shit
>>340940105
Your problem is that you're a waifu fag. You're supposed to just drop your pants and whack the mole around for a little while until you're done.
LITERALLY all that is required.
>>340922384
>What's the future for them?
They're going to go the way of 3D TVs and anyone who says otherwise is the same type of dofus who got duped into buying a 3D TV.
>>340940315
>>340940505
Who cares? Technology that does that to anyone will never find mass appeal.
It's a gimmick anyway
>>340940553
I'm not a waifu fag. I enjoy the VR porn, but there are people who legitimately believe this is going to be the thing that "undoes" the necessity of women for male sexual interaction. It isn't going to.
I'm no normie by any sense of the word but there is something special about just holding on to someone you like. You can't get to that level of intimacy with VR. It will never be achieved. There will always be the knowledge in the back of your mind that it's all just a facade, and it will degrade the experience.
I've got a vive and it's absolutely breathtaking. You honestly should not judge it until you've given it a fair chance. There are demos for the two big ones at a bunch of stores.
If I had one complaint, it's that there aren't enough games to spend a ton of time playing.
>>340940858
>It's a gimmick anyway
Great argument bud. Really hitting us with the objective facts.
>there are people in this thread right now that are genuinly so butthurt that other people they will never meet in real life are willing to spend extra money they have on their hobby, regardless of whether or not they think its worth it.
hows that neet life treating you?
>>340940858
>Technology that does that to anyone will never find mass appeal.
People have had motion sickness on cars , airplanes and boats.
Stay mad at your defective body.
>>340940872
Cuck detected.
>>340941027
tell me how VR can add to anything in a substantial way. Pro tip: It can't! That's why it hasn't been done yet. I know you are really upset that you wasted $800 on a useless piece of plastic but that's the truth.
>>340940858
>>340941027
That's why he considers aero-plane, dirigibles, automobile and locomotive to be gimmicky and lacking in mass appeal.
>>340941212
Lay tip: War Thunder realistic mode.
Oh wait. that's not a game. Slavshit ww2 sim isn't a game!
>>340940332
Though, if you don't care about something that feels truly alive, then that isn't necessary, so actually, a doll, perhaps with some minor robotics inside, and an onahole insert, would be good enough, combined with AR or even VR (like with pic related).
>>340940858
>1800's /v/
>riding train
>get motion sickness and throw up
>"wow what a shit tech, nobody will ever use these things!"
>1900's /v/
>riding in massive steam boat to cross the atlantic
>get sick and throw up over the port side
>"wow, what a shit tech, nobody will EVER ride these things!"
>2000's /v/
>board plane to get across the country in a few hours
>get motion sick and throw up in the toilet
>"WOW, what a SHIT tech! nobody will EVER get on one of these things!"
>>340922384
We're gonna party like it's 1995!
>>340941228
>strawman
you want to hear the facts? The facts are not in your favor Anonymous.
>VR has been a consumer thing for a little bit now and there are no games for it that are compelling beyond the 1 hour tech demo
>There are no games coming for it in the future that are such
>There has been no indication that there ever will be such games
>>340941373
Wow, War Thunder. Wait that game ALREADY EXISTS and can be played WITHOUT VR. In fact VR adds NOTHING that cannot already be done in that game.
my rift is supposed to come in tomorrow, though i'm almost certainly gonna miss signing for the fucking thing when i'm at work
>>340934197
Of course CM3D 2 have a VR patch.Are you living under a rock, son?
>>340941648
>adds nothing
head tracking. It's a godsend in dogfighting sim. You must think it's ok to use a mouse and keyboard and play in arcade mode.
>>340941648
>VR adds nothing to War Thunder
You've never tried it with VR then. There are already many games that you can get to support VR and it adds a lot to the experience.
If you've not actually tried it then don't call it a gimmick. There are some applications with it where it definitely IS a gimmick but that's down to shitty developers and poor execution. I bet you say the same thing about headtrackers like TrackIR? They COMPLETELY change the way you play games like War Thunder or DCS.
I used to play Elite and War Thunder normally. Then I picked up a TrackIR and it became a completely different experience. Then I tried them both with the DK2, and I don't ever want to go back. It changes so much with how the game feels and plays. It feels natural. Just like it does with a TrackIR or similar headtracking solution. The only difference is, with VR it feels normal since it's 1:1.
And this is precisely why I did not get a Vive. I got a DK2 and have already ridden the "tech demo shovelware" train. The Vive will follow the same path until some full games finally get developed for it. It will be like that for around a year.
>>340941648
>In fact VR adds NOTHING that cannot already be done in that game.
Except being able to look around the environment using your head , get a sense of 3D scale and speed , get vertigo while doing loops , follow targets around intuitively using your head...
I had both the rift and vive, I returned the vive.
The rift: A comfortable, ergonomic, device that really has polish. Its clear a lot of work went into creating it and its ecosystem.
The Vive: Front Heavy, Ugly, and Wiimote esq controllers.Its clear valve rushed this out to compete with the rift.
Roomscale will work fine on the Rift after touch comes out.
im waiting for .hack immersion
>>340940872
Anyone that wants this shit for porn just wants a slightly better experience to jerk off than normal porn.
Most likely they've never held anyone or had normal sex either. But you are a normie by all means.
>>340942021
found the occulus shill
>>340933695
What?
I charge my controllers like once a week, tops... and use them for a solid 20+ hours throughout the week.
>>340942021
I heard a lot of people prefer the Vive because the motion controls added to the experience. But it does seem like the Touch controllers that are supposed to come out later this year have a little more thought put into it.
>>340940332
>AR much closer
google car is already coming out
>>340942205
Yeah total normie. I watch anime and jerk off to more hentai than anything else and own an Oculus Rift CV1. I once told a girl who was interested in me that I didn't need her because I "have VR porn". I didn't go for it with her but she did try to convince me otherwise through physical contact. It felt nice but I am already on the fast track to wizardry and I would like to keep it that way.
>>340928897
it's like you've never even seen The Matrix.
when you "touch" something that's just electrical impulses in your brain.
>>340942021
Definatly this.
Oculus > Vive, Vive == DOA
>>340942021
>Rift
>Supporting anti consumer monopoly bullshit
Yeah, fuck off.
>>340942623
I don't think there exist people who haven't seen Matrix.
>>340942676
lol I didn't know oculus had shills. Though they are owned by facebook now, so I guess it's to be expected.
>>340942205
>normie sex
reee desu
plus unless you're cuck you still need to jerkoff
The fuck is with this post >>340942595 and others like it? Are they just shills or are people seriously falling for the meme? Would someone really deny a girl in favor of VR, in its current state? What the fuck?
>>340942268
>>340942836
>muh shill bogeyman
>>340942836
Yeah, I thought it was just Valve/HTC shills all the time. Interesting to see Oculus trying to catch up in this area too.
>it's the if you tried VR then you can't call it a gimmick meme
>>340942916
I have social anxiety and I fear sex. It's something I've been working on trying to fix for awhile. I think it stems from a lot of self-hatred of myself and years of psychological punishment and torture from when I was younger. I've got a lot of loose screws and I don't know where they went.
Also I think to an extent it's also a bit of a power trip thing. For years I was always the one to be turned down by girls and for the first time ever it was in my power to tell a girl who was interested in me to fuck off. It felt nice.
>>340942916
>other people think differently about VR than you
Woah.
The Vive feels heavier, moves around my head more (likely due to room scale walking around and games relying on looking down). The controllers added HUGELY to the immersion and made it feel amazing. But again, their use was like a great flavor on a dessert. Delicious, but not a whole meal.
I firmly believe room scale and remotes are where VR will shine. But at the moment, it's just Dessert.
SO, my Rift arrived yesterday and my hunger for some more in depth games to make me feel like VR won't just be where I go when I'm bored, but be my main source of gaming, was strong.
I plugged it all in (so simple!). Had the wrong USB ports (had to find my USB3 ports). And it was running (already had Oculus home and games downloaded) with no real screwing around!
So I put the Rift on my head and IMMEDIATELY decided the rift dominates the Vive. This is just my experience and personal opinion, but the Rift felt so incredibly smooth. The tracking was spot on and didn't feel clunky. It just felt so, damn, good. Noticeably so!
A bestbuy near me had an Occulus on display and had demos as long as you could find the guy running them. So I got the guys attention and he helped me into the thing and I had the worst realization of all time.
So I've always been a huge fan of the concept of VR and I'm of the opinion that VR is totally the future for games. I also thought for sure glasses and shit wouldn't be an issue because the view would be so close to the actual eye BOY WAS I WRONG.
Turns out if your vision is poor enough, certain kinds of VR probably wont work for you. And there's a very small chance of you being able to wear glasses with the rig.
I more or less wanted to kill myself right there. I can only hope that this is an issue they're going to fix, otherwise I'll miss the virtual waifu generation.
>>340943495
There's already a campaign running to get prescription lenses installed in VR HMDs.
>>340943316
Please use english faggot
>>340943495
There's such a thing as smaller glasses frames that fit inside the headsets. There's also such a thing as 3D printed lens adapters that you can stick inside to customize the headset. Really now anon, you're overreacting when you should be researching.
>>340943495
You can wear glasses with all the consumer headsets though.
>>340943820
Lies.
>oh this anon said i can
>wastes 800+tax
>weird it doesn't fit...
>PWNED, i got OWN3D.
>>340943420
>t. Not a shill
>>340923806
I haven't tripped over the wires once. The only time the wires have ever been a problem is when I play something like Xortex and I'm constantly spinning around and it gets tangled up.
>>340942916
theres a reason its called 3DPD
I recently had to return my vive and get a rift.
The vive had some pretty cool motion controls, and tracking but in the end fell flat in resoluton, design, and games. The headset felt cheap and hurt my rather large head.
The rift has nice non-strech straps, built in headphones, and a great game library of fun, professional titles.
The Vive is to the Wii as the Oculus is to a gaming PC.
Are there any good games for poor mans VR?
The future is of these is serious fucking neck problems and waifu simulators.
>>340943393
>tfw no girls will ever ask me out
>tfw I never have and will not ask any girl out
>tfw I've never even had a desire to date or ever felt romantic love for anyone in the first place
>>340943393
And that's why you are a horrible human being who deserves to remain solitary for the rest of your life.
>>340924678
Sorry tyrone, you might need to get a job to afford the luxury gaming peripheral.
>>340943495
Oculus is terrible with glasses because the default foam doesn't leave enough space. They were originally supposed to include another set for people with glasses.
The Vive lets you control the distance to accommodate people with glasses. I just demo'd mine to 4 people that wore glasses and it worked fine.
>>340944217
>neck problems
Spotted the retard who never tried a headset. Is your neck literally a twig?
>>340943820
I could wear my glasses with the rift dk1 when my friend rented one.
>>340944078
>>340943420
>>340942676
>>340942021
Holy fuck, some serious shilling in here.Really fucking obvious about it too.
Notice how it was a discussion of VR in general, then these shills come in and start pushing oculus, derailing any constructive discussion that was going on.
>>340944438
I know.
Mark my words, Sony will save VR and blow the fuck out of Oculus and ValveHTC. Now just wait until Sony's E3 press conference.
>>340945315
>$400 meme
$500 cause you will be asked to buy the camera and the move controllers.
the porn is the most amazing thing I've fapped to and I have a huge collection. I'm getting a gear VR for free with my new phone.
I have no doubt the games will be amazing eventually. Right now they are pretty basic and low graphics but they will only improve with better video cards and wider adoption.
>>340942595
>Has money for expensive monitor goggles
>Has girls talking to him and touching him no less wanting him
>LOL I DENIED THAT GIRL I'M SUCH A NEET FROG MEME FOR THE WIN XD
You're no wizard and never will be.
>>340942839
Nobody NEEDS to jerk off that's just a meme by perverts who are addicted and just want to spew stupid crap to justify their idiocy.
>>340938335
What about the PSVR?
Look man, I don't want to buy the other headsets for literally over $1000 (exchange rates plus shipping) only to find that due to technical fuckery they're just paper weights. At least the PSVR is basically plug and play, even if you need to buy a few components.
>>340933498
>that shadow going all over the place
fucking hell
