Been playing some UT99 for the first time (was playing its rival game when it was new) and it got me thinking - how come every subsequent iteration got worse and why was there zero attempt at innovation? Not even going to comment on the 'free' marketplace reskin. Great game, but Quake Arena really trumps it in art design. I slightly prefer UT's weapons.
>>340901479
>zero attempt at innovation
The new UT has a completely revamped Biorifle
2k3 and 2k4 had shield guns instead of impact hammers
2k4 had vehicles
And arena shooters can't remove old weapons because the people will bitch about it. In 2k3 people bitched about the lightning gun, even though it was a reskin of a sniper rifle, so they added a sniper back in and they both serve the same purpose.
>>340901479
Stop making me want to play Unreal Tournament again!
After playing both for ages I just wish that UT had faster switch speed.
In fights you're stuck with whatever weapon you're holding most of the time.
I mainly wish that Epic had released UT99 under an open source license the way that Id always used to release their games source code. It would have been nice if it could have been maintained the way the other games were.
>>340901479
i dont recall a number of game modes in 2004 to be in 1. and 2004 is more fun unless all you literally care about is twitch arena shooting (in which case just go play quake anyways)
they've always innovated graffix
>>340907913
Didn't UT2k3 make weapon switching faster?
>>340906016
Dont, you'll have to beat Normandy again
>>340909569
Now that you mention it switching in 2k4 felt a lot faster than in '99
I guess jumping from Q3A to '99 made me forget that.
Can someone explain to me the difference between 99 and 04 and why is 99 (presumably) better?
I know the third one is shit.
>>340901479
The new UT is basically UT99 with more movement options, more balanced weapons and pretty graphix
I still miss Ripper, though it was one of my favorite weapons
>>340904814
Excpet they removed the ripper from 99 onward
>>340904814
Don't forget wall dodging in 2k3/2k4not that you'd use it much
Also Adrenaline and shit
>>340910858
>Nerfed shock combo
>Nerfed RL
>Nerfed Flak alt fire
>Nerfed Sniper rifle
>Link gun
>Switched Minigun fire modes(?)
>Removed Ripper
>Replaced enforcers
>Shield guns
>Vehicles
>Wall runs
>Different campaign
>More game modes
>Adrenaline codes
A lot of shit is different, which is better is subjective.
I can't remember, what weapon replaced the ripper?
>>340910858
99 is basically THE Quake III rival
2k4 is more of an halo multiplayer rival with huge maps and a lot of veichles, the movement feels more floaty (they added a double jump too) and it's not quite as good as 99 was for smaller maps\
>>340912061
>pretty graphix
just high res textures with no idea how to do color contrast. everything looks sterile. charm got lost in translation.
>>340912573
none
>>340913090
Wait it's 1-9 for the latter games?
Shit my memory is bad.
>>340913047
Yeah, it's a shame it lost the cyber-gothic vibe
>>340910858
99 is more twitchy arena shooter
2004 is really known for its more 'fun' team gameplay like onslaught
>>340913359
Translocator
Shield Gun
Assault Rifle
Bio Rifle
Mine Layer
Shock Rifle
Super Shock Rifle
Link Gun
Minigun
Flak Cannon
Grenade Launcher
Rocket Launcher
AVRiL
Sniper Rifle
Lightning Gun
Redeemer
Ion Painter
Target Painter
I can't remember the exact numbers, but some of these overlap
>>340913691
Mine Layer, AVRiL and the painters are vehicle map only
Translocator and Shield gun are both slot 1
Super shock rifle is only for instagib matches
Sniper Rifle and Lightning gun are reskins of eachother
>>340913371
I always found Unreal to be more industrial and the original game was Astec/Mayan space tribal extravaganza, shame it didn't stay that way.
>>340914901
Assault Rifle
Bio Rifle
Shock Rifle
Link Gun
Minigun
Flak Cannon
Rocket Launcher
Sniper Rifle/Lightning Gun
Redeemer
The grenade launcher is Onslaught-only too, now let's see UT99 weapons:
Enforcer
Bio Rifle
Shock Rifle
Pulse Gun
Ripper
Minigun
Flak Cannon
Rocket Launcher
Sniper Rifle
Redeemer
Exactly 1 weapons removed for non-Onslaught gamemodes
what a shame
>>340916332
Why did they remove the ripper anyway? It's fun as fuck to get those wallbounce kills.
Though I guess Flak does the same, but better.
>>340917634
I don't know. Nobody knows.
It was a fun and different weapons, the fire modes weren't all that great, but it didn't need removal either.
