343 must be the biggest hacks
>Fucked up Reach
>Ruined Halo in Halo4
>Greedy cunts want 60$ for a broken old collection
>Pay to Win modes
>Incomplete Halo5
>Online only for most of the game
>Nigger main guy in 5
>Cucking Chief
And get this
>Will release 60$ DLC for halo 5 for Split Screen and game modes
Why is 343 alive. Halo4 is hated by everyone. Halo 5 is even worse with the lowest population and lowest sales
Bungie was better.
>>340901326
>Fucked up Reach
They had nothing to do with Reach
>>340901326
>Nigger
dude, racism's not cool
>>340901326
>Why is 343 alive
Because it's just Microsoft developing under a name. They're literally the same company.
Reach was fun as fuck, but I only played for the campaign
>>340901326
>Fucked up Reach
Uh..should we tell him guys? I love how shit posters can't even get their shit posts straight
>>340904436
>we
>>340903624
They made the one and only title update for it, whichimmensely improvedthe game.
OP is a bungiefag who is probably buying all the Destiny DLC like a good goy.
Reach is my 2nd fav halo go sit down op
>>340903624
the funniest thing is they actually made reach better...what they were doing with 4 though who the fuck knows. they probably tried to make reach better just so people bought for and you can definitely bet they glitched the fuck out of mcc matchmaking just so people bought h5
>>340908382
The bungie halos are great and I love that destiny dlc but goddamn bungie is incompetent. Its always one step forward and two steps back
At least theyre not 343
>>340910280
Bungie Halos were always on a decline.
343's Halo is the opposite.
>>340910270
four**
>>340910280
343 took one step forward with h5 but that was it. they still needed to take another 99 steps.
announcing when power weapons are up was kind of a step back I guess but only affects people who aren't champions
>>340910934
Announcing weapons spawns helps anyone who isn't at the top level, and doesn't hurt anyone at the top level because they'd just know the timers anyway. It's giving players information outright.
What I do hate about them is that they give away your position when they're picked up.
>>340910780
>Bungie Halos were always on a decline
You can say they went sideways with odst and reach but I enjoy those just as much, if not more than the mc trilogy
>>340911729
Reach was a pretty objective downgrade if you ignore the content and focus on what matters(gameplay). Even when it's stripped down, it's still not as good as older games.
>>340910934
The multiplayer was decent. They are trying new things and thats great and all, but I don't think theyre doing to well with the series as a whole. The forerunners are stupid, and the h5 campaign was just as bad as h4
>>340911675
>Announcing weapons spawns helps anyone who isn't at the top level, and doesn't hurt anyone at the top level because they'd just know the timers anyway. It's giving players information outright.
it's just another thing that affects the skill gap...when t he fuck are they going to realize they need to go back to how the original trilogy formula was? im not even complaining about physics or anything I just want classic play style. fuck sprint and fuck these massive maps and kill times
h2a is better than reach/4/5
>>340912235
>They are trying new things and thats great and all, but I don't think theyre doing to well with the series as a whole
they literally didn't need to do anything. h3 had a shit ton of people online before reach killed it. try something new when the series is actually dying
>>340912269
It doesn't affect the skill gap at all, going into forge and pressing X on a weapon isn't a "skill".
Even in the time Halo was on the MLG circuit, players didn't time weapons on their own. They had coaches behind them with tablets and clipboards.
>>340901326
Microsoft should've let the series rest for a while and released Halo 4 as a next-gen title. But of course, they just had to be greedy.
>>340912929
>going into forge and pressing X on a weapon isn't a "skill".
Idk what you mean by this?
im saying it affects the skill gap among the rest of the community. not everyone uses timers or coaches, but now everyone doesn't need one. people who were coaches are out of a job because of this
I like Halo 5's MP a lot
>>340913472
Hiding away weapon timers in a different mode doesn't create a skill gap, it just hides information from players. It would be like hiding the combo list in a fighting game; it's not going to be suddenly more competitive when some players know all the combos and others don't.
>>340908382
>improved
Casualizing the game even further and catering to whiny 12 year olds like you who thought armor lock was broken didn't really improve anything, but I guess Xbots like that kind of thing
>>340914017
>Hiding away weapon timers in a different mode doesn't create a skill gap, it just hides information from players. It would be like hiding the combo list in a fighting game
it's not like hiding combos in a fighting game and it would still give you an edge against someone who just started playing. it's literally like everyone has a timer now for them. no arena fps had this except maybe quake 3's quad damage..
>>340914716
>removing RNG makes the game casual
>>>/vg/csgog
>>340912929
>going into forge and pressing X on a weapon isn't a "skill"
The average person would not bother to do this, much less memorise all the weapon spawn times, remember to check that against the in-game time and know which weapon to push for when. Controlling power weapons is definitely a skill.
halo 5
>sprint
>smart scope
>gimmicky thrusters
>large maps fast kill times
this is actually the slowest halo yet\
also shit tier ranking system
>>340903878
Jokes aside, it's bottom of the barrel humor
>>340915202
Having an even playing field with everyone knowing what spawns where and when could arguable increase the skill gap in lower-level games, since those weapons will actually be contested. Nobody is given weapons for free when a timer is onscreen.
Anyone good would already know the timers and it literally doesn't affect them one bit.
>>340901326
>>Will release 60$ DLC for halo 5 for Split Screen and game modes
Speaking from a fanatic Halo 5 player, where did you get this from?
As far as I'm aware, all DLC is free.
Seriously? 60 dollars for a feature that should have been in the game originally
>>340915517
>fast kill times
It's barely faster than Halo 2, and is much slower than Halo 1.
But you're probably that faggot that always posts the 49-49 beta gameplay on Truth.
>>340915517
>Implying smart scope is bad
Autos are useful now and other guns have neat gimmicks attached to it. You are more accurate then ever without zooming in too so don't try to use that as a reason why it's bad
>>340915914
whether or not everyone know timers you're not always going to be thinking about it when playing but now they have it flashing or your screen. it's
>>340916447
>fastest ar
>fastest smg
>second fastest pistol
this along with the large maps and everything else makes it a shitty game
>>340916663
it's terrible you obvious shill. obstructing and clunky
>>340916879
>whether or not everyone know timers you're not always going to be thinking about it when playing but now they have it flashing or your screen. it's
Good players will know timers regardless.
>large maps
"no."
>>340916663
I honestly laughed so fucking hard at the ttk with the ads smg. it literally looked like cod. I feel sorry for real halo fans desu. new kids are just too late
>>340917257
truth slayer is terrible and you cannot tell me it's the same size as midship/heretic
its garbage but nice try
also
>strongholds
fucking kek
>>340916879
>calling people you disagree with a shill
I agree it'd be better just as the old zoom style on guns that had zoom in later titles to be less obstructive. I'm actually LESS accurate when zoomed in with the pistol due to how cluttered it is.
But overall it did more good then bad I feel
>>340917498
>strongholds
>bad
It's literally a better version of 3-plot.
>>340917505
it's just everything thrown into the game as a whole. halo never needed sprint. doom didn't have sprint. fucking cs doesn't have sprint and it's not even an arena shooter
>>340917664
3 plot was never good that's why im laughing it's played competitively
>how to know if you're a noob at halo 2
>>340917924
>fucking cs doesn't have sprint
It has a knife that accomplishes the same thing; trading the ability to shoot your gun for faster movement.
Tell me anon, how much Halo 5 have you played?
>>340917498
>it literally looked like cod
Who the fuck cares how it looks, care about how it actually is mechanically.. It's nothing like ADS in CoD: it doesn't slow you down and you can shoot accurately without it.
it's just zoom with a new coat of paint to attract CoD kids, who invariable treat it like ADS and get their shit pushed in as a result.
> I feel sorry for real halo fans desu
I'd be willing to bet i've spent more time more time and money on halo shit then you have by a factor of 10 and started far earlier then you did
>>340917924
>halo never needed sprint.
I agree, but with how it works in 5 i'm not particularly bothered by it's inclusion either.
Sprint in 4 was worse since it didn't slow shield recharge and you could just run away, and no descope/ordinance in 4 was WAY worse
>>340918247
>It has a knife that accomplishes the same thing
ok but this is halo, it's an arena shooter...no arena shooter had this shit and besides you pretty much die on the spot in cs making yourself extremely vulnerable when doing this
>>340918524
>it's an arena shooter.
Is it, though? Has it ever been?
How much Halo 5 have you played?
>>340901326
Yeah, 343 aren't very good. It's a problem since it's slowly killing the franchise. Everything about the games just feels off, even down to the awkward overly-detailed art direction.
>>340918452
>It's nothing like ADS in CoD
it is though. that smg ttk /ads/far away cover/sprint makes this shit terrible. it's not halo and it's not good
>>340918908
>it is though
Nope.
>complaining about a fast TTK
How to spot someone who started playing with Halo 2 or 3.
>>340918687
>How much Halo 5 have you played?
im talking about the orginal trilogy. halo 5 is definitely not an arena shooter and is not very competitive desu it's probably the most casual halo yet. it's just played a such a slow pace because of the map sizes and ttks. they somehow even made the br faster even though it's still 4 shot.
>>340919454
You're not answering my question. You have played Halo 5 and know enough to complain about it, right? It would be a shame if all you had were baseless accusations.
>>340919319
I started with h1 and it had slow ttks except for the pistol. not only that the maps were more close quarters and just better overall
1-3 didn't have sprint and sprint is bad
>>340918687
Not him, but yes, i'd say every Halo game is at it's core an arena shooter.
Even 4, since you can turn loadouts off and turn weapons on maps on, and even with loadouts it still plays more like UT then it does COD.
>>340918908
Mechanically it is 100% identical to zoom in past halos.
>it's not halo and it's not good
I hope you aren't implying "having automatics be good isn't halo", becausse this is the most retarded fucking thing I see in the halo fanbase and it's bee a constant cancer since even the Halo 2 days.
>>340919319
>How to spot someone who started playing with Halo 2 or 3
Not him and I started with CE (though I didn't really get into the series untill 2), but he's just an idiot.
>>340919876
>Even 4, since you can turn loadouts off and turn weapons on maps on, and even with loadouts it still plays more like UT then it does COD.
You can turn off all of the abilities in 5.
>>340919706
I rented it the first day played it for 6 hrs then barely played the rest of the week I had it. got to diamond 1 in arena slayer. the placement matches are stupid but whatever
1-50 was better in almost every way
>>340919876
>i'd say every Halo game is at it's core an arena shooter.
I'd say every halo game after 3 at it's core has been a broken mess and that's why nobody is interested in it
>>340904217
It definitely started the trend away from traditional Halo gameplay. Loadouts, fall damage, sprinting, and jetpacks were a mistake.
>>340920628
>fall damage
Worked fine in Halo 1.
>>340920628
>fall damage
fall damage was in h1 except you're right about sprint and jetpacks. that shit was never in halo
>>340920261
I'm know, I don't see how that's relevant though, and I didn't bring it up as such?
Halo 5 has even starts to begin with by default, so it's an arena shooter by default, 4 didn't so there's an argument that it's not one, hence why I said "but I'd still count 4 because..."
If Destiny is anything to go by, Halo 4+ would have been either way.
>>340920628
AA's actually made the map flow less shit in reach
jetpacks made sword base bearable
>ar starts in h5
>>340921334
The Magnum is powerful and the BR is too easy to spawn with.
>>340920864
I think even weapon starts is too broad to define an arena shooter.
Halo doesn't have particularly fast movement, a 2-weapon limit, a regenerating health buffer, and offhand melee/grenades.
>>340901326
I loved Halo 1-3 but the series with 4 (and you could say earlier with Reach) started becoming exactly the opposite of what made it popular. A big focus on loadouts and abilities instead of map knowledge and power weapons, e-sports instead of splitscreen, gotta-go-fast cowaduty in space gameplay, and fanfic tier shitty ass stories for the campaign instead of something that makes sense really killed the series in record time. I played all of 4 with a buddy and even doing couch co-op couldn't save it from being a terrible experience. It has to be one of the most soulless games I've ever played.
>>340901326
>>Greedy cunts want 60$ for a broken old collection
stopped reading here
I didn't mind Halo 4 so much
It was clearly the worst of the main games, until 5, but I didn't hate it.
I do not like 5. I don't like how the cutscenes are so action packed. All the other games the cutscenes are there for exposition and setting up the level but in 5 it feels like I'm missing out on a good bit of the action.
Also this is the first Halo I've had to change the controls on.
>Left Trigger to zoom/scope
Not muh Halo controls
>>340920836
>>340920764
Ah that's right, my bad
Worked fine without it in Halo 2 and 3 though right? And I don't think there's anyone who would claim Reach/4/5 had better gameplay than 2/3
>>340921867
>Halo doesn't have particularly fast movement, a 2-weapon limit, a regenerating health buffer, and offhand melee/grenades.
Personally, all that's needed for somethign to be an arena shooter are
-Even starts
-weapons and powerups on map
-some sort of exaggerated/unrealistic movement and the type of map design that goes with that
Halo qualifies for all of those. All the stuff you mentioned is just extra, IMO
Also, Halo does have fast movement: you walk at 20mph, and run at 35mph or so. The environments are just sized to actually be realistic in scale unlike in other shooters so it doesn't feel it.
Also, doesn't UT3 MP have a 2 weapon limit?
>>340921334
Gid gud, the AR is actually useful and can be used out to medium range viably with bursts and you have a magnum
>>340921867
magnum is too powerful for the size of the maps. it just creates camping along with spritn and other things. h5 is slow m9
>>340922490
Generally, 2 and 3 never really had map design that was vertical enough for fall damage in the first place. I prefer it because it adds risk/reward for getting around.
>>340922715
>it just creates camping
Nope. Camping and passive play gets punished hard in 5.
>>340922615
don't tell me to git gud buddy I will fucking rek u
>>340922015
thats why you switch to recon controls friend
>>340922885
>Nope. Camping and passive play gets punished hard in 5.
>start watching 343's pathetic tourney
>first thing I see is a guy camping with rockets in an objective gametype
shit maps, shit game design
>>340923137
Post source.
>>340923310
it was live I didn't fucking record it you tool
>>340923445
>thing happened
>fuck you i won't prove it
>>340923536
heres something different. game pretty much plays the same beta or not. this shit is funny as fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRoNK-7tp2U
this would literally never happen on any map in h1-3
>>340923772
Oh, this chestnut that you keep posting. Cherrypicked beta footage that's incredibly outdated now.
>>340923894
they literally couldn't push because of the map size and kill times
>>340924005
They literally couldn't because the enemy only had to get 1 more kill. What kind of shitter are you to run out into the open when you're 1 kill from losing?
Again
>beta
>>340923772
whoa guys watch out this guy posted the beta footage from truth again he really won the argument now
>>340923894
>tfw there's no headshot bonus on the AR on shields in the final game
>tfw spraying and praying is actually better then timed bursts out to like 10 feet
Litterally my only problem with weapon balance in 5. Add the bonus on headshots on shields back, but reduce bodyshot damage and it'd be perfect.
>>340924005
>>340923894
truth is also the smallest map
I've heard that prophet slayer is terrible the game literally has one slayer map
>>340924351
Empire is smaller.
>>340923772
>ironsights
>that post game "what of it bruh?" screen
Life is suffering.
>>340901326
They actually tried to fix Reach with the TU. After that they did ruin it though since they interpretated the TU playlist low population as nobody caring about it when it reality players had already left since the TU came out more then a year later because Bungie sat on their asses. So they doubled down on shit balance after that and with Halol 4 they went full retard.
What is this Halo 5 60 dollar dlc though? Just Halo 6?
>>340924292
The AR is already ridiculously powerful in the final game.
>>340923894
>ask anon to post proof
>he does
>"lol cherrypicking, beta beta beta, nuh-uh that doesn't count"
Not even that anon but don't be such a faggot. I know you're probably super invested into the series but come on dude.
>>340925079
It doesn't count because the game is totally different now.
I would accept if he posted footage that wasn't a year and a half old.
>>340924582
oh, well empire isn't that good anyway with all the hiding spots and lines of sight
>>340924782
see
>>340916663
>>340918452
It's not ADS.
>>340925012
It is, but that's sorta my point: it's TOO powerful when spraying and praying, you should have to use timed, accurate burts to do as well as you can by merely holding the trigger down at some ranges, and I think bursting should be slightly more effective then it currently is.
In other words, I want them to raise the skillgap on it and also slightly raise the reward for being able to use it skillfully.
halo 3 best halo game / fps of all time
Of all time
I miss those days
fuck 343
Bungie besto
why are people defending a game so broken that it only has 2 slayer maps that barely work and can only be played objectively? this shit isn't halo and it's not even fucking arena
>>340926048
>it only has 2 slayer maps
>>340926247
competitive
truth/empire what else? even then im sure they barely work and only have weapons on map working for them
>>340926458
>competitive
Campaign
2>Reach>ODST>3>4=5>CE
Story
2>ODST>Reach>3>5>CE>literal garbage>4
MP
2>5>CE>3>Reach>4
Customs
Reach>5>3=4>2>CE
fite me
>>340926013
Halo 3 babies pls go
>>340926786
>campaign
>2
Nigga what? Everything outside of "muh arbiter xD" was awful, let alone the cliffhanger ending.
>>340926559
you could literally take cs go, add weapons to the map, change the art style and call it an arena fps. it doesn't make it a good fucking game
h5 is honestly shit
>>340927885
What does that have to do with you being wrong about H5 only having 2 competitive Slayer maps?
>>340928059
letting you know h5 is a shitty game is good enough for me. played the beta/rented the game. first halo I never bought and ive been a fan since the first one
>>340927531
I'm confused, do you take issue with my saying Halo 2 has the best story, or with me saying it has the best campaign missions?
>>340928346
You got BTFO hard dude. Fucking retard.
>>340928059
>>340928346
also there's a reason why the best player in the world (2gre) quit. you think it's because he's bored? he still streams h1. theres simply not enough money in it/viewers/not wanting to play a shitty game
>>340929310
>You got BTFO hard dude. Fucking retard.
ok, so what? I played the game for like 15 hrs but I know enough that it's shit compared to the original trilogy. enjoy your dead series
>>340929562
Enjoy being a dumb shit for the rest of your pathetic life.
LMAO
BTFO!!
>>340930004
>LMAOBTFO!!
ok ya got me
>>340930113
Of course I did. Know your place you disgusting degenerate.
>>340930859
>disgusting degenerate
>has shit taste and plays a 15 year old dead series
did...did you just now try it? I don't get it, how can you honestly play that shit unless you're completely new. shits been around for years besides the best one was almost 10 years ago now
