What went wrong?
>>340866568
she looks way too old for it to be her third birthday
dez nuts
it is just fucking shit, and it killed Parasite Eve forever (not that it was even alive for 10 years at that point).
Pointless and forgettable sequel that had no audience.
killed off aya
>>340866568
It's a good game, but it isn't Parasite Eve.
It's a shooter with skins of Aya.
Clothing degradation mechanics
>Waifuism to an extreme degree
>Bad choice of platform for a Western-Targeted game.
>Fucking RETARDED story
>Pointless sequel overall
>TWEEEST for the sake of twist
>Ruining the whole point of the first two games
>Trying something new without understanding what was good about the first two games
>>340866856
what he said too.
>>340866979
This was also stupid and made westerners think it was a bit of a creepo game, killing sales even more.
The 2nd game was a bit shitty, then 3rd Birthday came around late as fuck and nailed the coffin.
A fucking shame, the first one was brilliant, with one of the best soundtracks Square has ever made, along with Chrono Cross's.
>>340866856
>killed off aya
I only played the original, how does she die?
It wasn't like the other games. Not sure why it had to be different.
>>340867172
This, so much.
They just had to simply make a 1:1 carbon copy of the original but with a new plot.
>>340867079
>2nd game was bad
It was different, but I honestly think the gameplay is better than 1's.
>>340867103her sisterclone got shot up so some bullshit happens where aya and sisterclone "switch" bodies. sisterclone was the aya you play the entire game pretty much
>>340867045
>made westerners think it was a bit of a creepo game
The first boss has a completely pointless scene where it drips some unidentified white liquid over Aya while she moans, right before she starts ripping her clothing apart for no real reason.
It's definitely at least a little creepo.
>>340867370
Hot
Lightning VA
>>340867370
It's not ''''''''''creepo'''''''' as you easily offended American cuck squads love to say about anything a bit erotic in your media.
It was downright pointless, Aya was always dignified, to put her in that situation was retarded and unfaithful to her original character.
>>340867341
Sounds like they ruined the series beyond repair
>>340867370
video pls
>>340867715
if you want to masturbate, just go to sad panda and click the first link or something. leave aya out of this.
>>340867598
There's eroticism and then there's "I'm pretending this isn't my fetish even though it is."
If you're gonna go ero, own up to it instead of being a pussy bitch. Otherwise Westerners think you're doing closet creep shit and don't wanna buy as much as if you were upfront about it.
>>340867881
Aya is already dead anon what difference does it make
>>340867598
ah, but that's the thingIt's not Aya, so it's fine. :^)
>>340867079
2nd as great. If you treat it more like combat and loot oriented RE.I beat it like 10 times or more and I have JAP version in times when I didn't even know inglish.
Good times.
Aya is a slut
>>340866568
Lost license.
Hard to do a 3rd game in a series based on a novel when you lose the license to make games about said novel.
The only thing wrong with it was the RNG based upgrade system other than that it's a great game and better than the RE clone
>>340867623
They literally did it so they could pull the "Well, we truly ARE the Parasite Eve."
No, really, that's why they did it. It's stupid.
It was Parasite Eve: Other M
>>340868212
They did it anyway, just scrapping the title.
The problem wasn't that so much as every other mistake they made.
>>340868286
>Great game
Middling at best. Not to mention shootys on PSP tended to suck anyway.
I'd put it on a slightly lower level than Crisis Core, but above DoC.
>>340866568
Absolutely everything involving the plot. I'm not sure why they thought it was a good idea to make a Parasite Eve game despite not having the Parasite Eve license any more, but even so they could have done a better job on that front.
It was a fairly good TPS, though.
>>340868212
Have you read the novel? It really doesn't have much to do with what they did with the first game. In fact, I didn't even enjoy the novel that much at all.
>>340866568
They were losing the license for the series and shit out a sequel to use their remaining development assets much in the same way that THPS5 was pushed out.
>>340868387
This nigga gets it. It's the same situation in almost every way.
>Female character is director's waifu and as such is perfect but also not assertive because that would ruin their waifu fantasy.
>All kinds of shit designed just to make them look cool or sexy.
>Shits all over previous entries to build the waifu image.
>Tries to be deep, again to build up the waifu, but it's just retarded.
>Ignores the mechanics that made previous entries fun.
Waifu Culture is literally a cancer to video games.
>>340868387
Are there any other Other M's out there?
I can't think of many. I'd say Valdis X, but that's just an official porn game.
>>340868454
The novel is indisputably the best part of the entire franchise.
It's not even close. It's a highly successful book that launched the career of a writer and had a national award created just to be given to it. It had a movie and manga adaptation before the game was even a thing. The original game was just done on the cheap as a tech demo for FF8.
>>340866568
Lightning?
>>340868745
>The original game was just done on the cheap as a tech demo for FF8.
I-is this true?
>>340868931
If you listen to that dumbass you're as bad as people who think ZoE was just a vehicle to showoff MGS2
PE was amazing, and I still play it.
PE2 was also amazing, but in a different way. Instead of being more crunchy RPG stat oriented like PE was, it smooooooothed it all out into a slick action RPG. I've probably beaten PE2 twice as many times as PE, although that's partly because of the time investment PE takes to beat.
Third Shitday was just the worst, and combined typical SE "Missing the point of what made the previous games good" design with fucking TotallyNot!Lightning. Topped off with a fanfic tier story and gunplay that is about as satisfying as cramming your dick into a bucket of broken glass.
>>340869651
PE was short as fuck, what are you talking about?
Aya turns into stereotypical waifubait and the plot gets points just for being utterly nonsensical. I don't think there's a single part of the narrative that doesn't fall apart in one way or another by the end.
>>340866979
>>340867045
That's the reason I bought the game though
>>340868745
>>340868931
Actually, it was more of a tech demo for Vagrant Story, and even that's a stretch
>>340869795
Not if you factor in the Chrysler building
>>340870387
Not really a tech demo in terms of game design. It was a tech demo for the engine that was going to power the rest of the SquareSoft PS1 titles. Parasite Eve was the guinea pig for the FF8 engine. Nothing else carried over, but it was a small, linear project they could fuck around with to see what they could and couldn't do for the big follow up to FF7.
>>340869651
Surprised to hear you enjoyed PE2 so much. I never played it, only the original, but I remember when PE2 came out reading on game faqs back in the day how much everybody hated it.
I guess its worth playing?
>>340870387
>you will never play a sequel or HD remaster to vagrant story
Why live. Although I must admit that game really needed a real time weapon changing system. Later in the game your constantly changing between weapons because you always have different enemy types and some of your weapons are a higher affinity for those types.
>>340869140
It wasn't, but it god damn sure was USED in testing things for MGS2, and 2nd Runner reused quite a bit from 2 as well.
>>340869795
Not really. The game stretched out with cinematics and some backtracking iirc.
>>340868745
>parasite eve is just a tech demo for FF8
considering the two games are in no way similar I doubt it.
>>340871310
I certainly think it is. It plays a lot closer to, say, Resident Evil 2 than it does to PE.
Which I think might have been one of the few times that SE really looked at another game and said "What makes this work?" And then managed to get that into one of their games in a non-idiotic way.
>>340866568
everything.
it's the Other M of the series
>>340869930
>Aya
Maybe I am bad, but the hard mode was impossible for me.
I wanted to try it because the NG+ opens up a lot of the game and you get to unlock cool costumes, but I could never get too far without dying.
Parasite eve franchise was amazing sad to see it so fast forgotten. After square soft japanese games all became meh shit (first gen xbox360) then finally all becoming waifu shit. Japanese rpgs are dead for most part.
Hajime Tabata
>>340866568
Looks like Lightning
>>340866979
>Clothing degradation mechanics
Fuck you. That was one of the few good ideas in 3B.
Real problem with 3B was that it was not a Parasite Eve game at all. It shat on the lore and was an entirely wrong genre. If the main character had been called something else the game could have been fine.
Also wrong: being an exclusive shooter for a handheld that doesn't have twin sticks.
>>340875805
>Clothing degradation mechanics
>good idea
>>340877451
What's wrong, son? Are you a faggot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TldE6Rg72wk
>waifufags coming out of the woodwork to defend what is otherwise universally agreed to be hot garbage
well i can't say i was surprisedit'll be the same for ff15, as lunafags are already making the rounds
>>340878152
There's very little wrong with the game that couldn't have been solved by simply naming the main character anything other than Aya Brea. Only reason it offends people is because it's Aya Brea in there. If it was Saya Thea, with no other changes, everything would be fine.
>>340874868
There's literally a Lightning costume in the game. You can see it in the video >>340878020
around the four minute mark.
>>340878492
Other than it being a middling, boring ass shooter with little to no redeeming qualities, yeah, nothing was wrong with the game!
Fair point, though. If it was "We Tried Out Hand at 3rd Person Shooters Birthday", it wouldn't be so universally hated, just forgotten.
>>340869651
Are you me?
>>340878492
>the controls are fine
>the plot that can't make a SINGLE element stand for more than 2 minutes is fine
>maeda being nothing but a self-insert for waifufags is fine
>daniel dollis not coming back is fine
>kyle madigan existing, nevermind being "important" for so long after PE2 is fine
>literally nothing from PE's lore being carried over is fine
>the "bosses" all being mediocre at best, with one being so blatantly cut out of the game, there's STILL the scene that you would have gotten had you killed him is right in-game in fine
But yeah, the fapbait was worth it!
Best thing to come out of this game
>>340877816
From a mechanical perspective, taking more damage the lower your health is is fucking moronic.
>>340866568
As a PE game it was terrible. For a PSP game it wasn't that bad. I had some fun with it. Fucking hard though.
>>340866568
>What went wrong?
The cutscenes and the fact that it's a parasite eve game.
If you ignore that, skip the cutscenes and map the d-pad to the right stick (play it in PPSSPP) it's actually pretty damn good.
We need more female MCs who just wear t-shirts and jeans.
>>340879647
>>340879858
Parasite Eve 2 was a blatant Resident Evil 2 ripoff. Why the fuck didn't they build on the Role Playing mechanics of the first one?
Also Aya Brea should be in Kingdom Hearts 3.
>>340866568
I pirated it and downloaded a save file with all the outfits unlocked, had tons of fun. I never played the previous games but this game seems to be so different from those that people should just see it as it's own game with the main character having the same name.
It's more fun if you detach it from the Parasite Eve games so why not do that?
>>340880361
Its a shame Tetsuya Nomura overdesigns all of his characters nowadays.
>>340880581
Because Square is dumb.
>>340877816
Nope...im just not desperate
>>340880581
This is some next level shitposting.
>>340880361
This is a mission statement i can get behind
>>340880990
What? Its pretty fucking obvious that Parasite Eve 2 ditched the RPG aspects in favor of a more action based approach influenced by Resident Evil.
I never played the first two, but I thought the combat was cool and the switching mechanic was neat.
Problem was some of the late game encounters are pretty cheap and the bosses are total bullet sponges for the sake of drawing things out
>>340866568
so lightning is washed up actress from failed game?
>>340880361
This so much.
This is so rare, yet so cool.
>>340880763
>traced art
>>340866568
>Losing the rights to Parasite eve
>Aya not having any of her abilities from previous games
>How she turned out to be her clone/sister ALL ALONG
>Butchering Maeda and making him into a generic perv otaku.
The Soundtrack was decent though. It was the part that felt most PE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYSySKj9jAk&index=37&list=PL06553834263B2818
>>340880894
So a faggot then.
>Parasite Eve was once a classy Horror/Detective RPG
>>340881265
>so lightning is washed up actress from failed game?
I like this lore.
Also Fiona played Jill in RE5.
>>340880685
The PE1 and PE2 character designs were his magnum opus as an artist, everything went to shit after that
>>340866568
Making you beat the game like 50 times to get the shower scene
>>340873896
>The Implya
>>340882438
>beat the game like 50 times to get the shower scene
>can't be real
>google it
>it's real
Beat the game fifty fucking times. Wow. That's a fucking unlock condition.
The gameplay
the fucking gameplay
The gameplay is so bad
PE1 was a really cool hybrid RPG and PE2 was a fun REclone with an emphasis on actually killing things
The Third Birthday was just straight up awful
I thought Barfday had some really cool ideas. The hijacking mechanic was a neat way to spice up a TPS, and more fanservice the better is my general rule, but it was on the wrong platform. PSP just couldn't handle a game of this sort, with its no right thumbstick and lack of processing power. Also it shat on PE lore way too much.
>>340868585
>again to build up the waifu
not really since in the end it turns out it wasnt really aya one was playing as but someone else just in her body
still retarded yes but in way tried to build up a waifu by totally not making it her to begin with
>>340882675
Actually, if you skips all the videos, the game duration its 2 hours or less
>>340866657
:^) :^) :^)
>>340880685
Not so much anymore. Looking back, I get the feeling that the reason he went all BELTS AND ZIPPERS during the PS2 era was simply to show off that they were capable of making textures good enough to incorporate all the random bullshit. His designs have been dramatically toned down ever since FFXIII.
>>340883308
Even then playing the same game over and over for 80-100 hours to unlock a single nude scene seems totally absurd. Nobody is that thirsty.
>>340884090
This. Three words. Youtube and Fuck that.
>>340866568
Are the first two good? I like classic RE.
>>340884478
The first one is fantastic, while the second is kinda polarizing if you enjoyed the first
Female protagonist, they are poisonous to a franchise and will always end up destroying itself
>>340884478
The first two ARE good, but only the second is comparable to classic RE(RE2 with magic basically). First one is a RPG/shooter hybrid with more emphasis on the statsand it still works.
>>340880636
It's honestly a very difficult request to actually just disregard all the shit that the 3rd birthday spews out since most people here have fond memories of the first two.
The first two had a chilling atmosphere, a narrative that held you in suspense of what was to come next, a strong but still naive protagonist who just became more actively badass as the situation became more hellish, mitochondrial powers that range from the offensive striking enemies down with fireball to defensive like healing or boosting your attack and a perfect amount of weapons that all felt like they packed a punch to your enemies.
Now imagine waiting years as they announce a third entry to compliment the first two games. Being excited to see Aya and the returning cast to go back into the madness. Only to receive something that utterly is unrecognizable as a sequel/spinoff.
No more michondrial powers, a story that is just a clusterfuck of ideas that just doesn't mesh together on its own or as a follow up to Parasite Eve 1/2, weapons needing retarded qualifications to unlock and even then not being worth the effort to do so since enemies are bullet sponges with the guns also feeling like peashooters, and worst of all having Aya Brea becoming a god damn crybaby who just fucking whimpers curling up into a little ball of a pathetic weakling.
The story explains why she is exactly that, but that just makes thing worse since that utterly destroys the character further.
TLDR: This games presentation is awful for those who patiently waited for the return of Parasite Eve only to be betrayed.
>>340866568
>What went wrong?
Toriyama's penis was in full control
GOOD LORD don't ever let him be in charge of Square Enix properties with a female protagonist
>>340880636
>a save file with all the outfits unlocked
l-link?
>>340881149
PE2 has more "RPG aspects" than the first game.
>>340880581
what the fuck are you even talking about?
>>340868104
Used to be capable, leggy blonde, and now she's meak and timid fap material
>>340888320
She was always fap material.
>>340889442
Yeah but at least she was once respectable fap material.
>>340888320
you know it was her sister in third birthday and not her, right?
>>340889754
>respectable fap material
Oxymoron.
>>340866856
>he didn't get the real ending post credits
fucking retard memer
>>340868387
>le other m is bad maymay
go fuck yourself primefag
also 3rd birthday was fine
