>Best selling Nintendo game sold less than 35,000 units last month
How do we save Nintendo? I'd hate to see them go away.
They deserve to die, they just keep making shitty decisions after another.
They're also more anti-consumer than any other vidya company
I wonder why
Isn't this the same shitposter that was on neofag?
>>340865259
I genuinely can't see it and I fanboy them enough to buy a launch Wii U.
They'll never get 3rd party support, casuals and kids have moved on to mobile/tablet gaming and lets plays.
The AAA audience don't buy Nintendo. The dudebro sports n guns audience don't buy Nintendo. The autistic "games are art" walking simulator lovers don't buy Nintendo. Only Nintendo diehards buy Nintendo and as the Wii U proved, there isn't enough of them to support a console by themselves.
I don't think the NX is going to be another Wii-like success. The fact that they're releasing it before next years E3 yet not showing it this year proves that. Their marketing strategy is twelve kinds of fucked up. They lost their leader at a crucial time and their new president is so much of a non-entity that we've barely seen him since appointment. We've had 2 Direct presentations since last years E3.
>>340865259
>>340865825
They deserved it.
>>340865825
What's with the dudes posture?
>>340866186
The NX is gonna fail. And it's gonna be glorious to watch it do so.
>last month
what games can you list for may?
>>340866186
>They lost their leader at a crucial time and their new president is so much of a non-entity that we've barely seen him since appointment.
That's because the 10 million dies hards and the 2 million retards those die hard managed to convince getting a Wii U don't mean anything to him.
His greatest concern right now is to get new blood for the next generation to come, because you are correct about this:
>kids have moved on to mobile
That's what will destroy Nintendo in the future if they don't address it.
Hence he is trying to focus on making theme parks for kids.
And anime-movies for kids, kind of like yokai watch and pokemon.
These two is just about the only things they can do to otherwise get the next generation of kids' attention, outside of video games.
And they are looking into what can be done with smartphones.
That third thing might be the Make or Break for Nintendo, if they fail at this, then they need to find new business.
Nintendo is a fucking embarrassment.
lmao
Shitposting trolls is now news?
>>340865259
Give them games.
>>340865259
>from VGchartz
>>340866291
he's a gay
35k is actually alot for a single game.
>>340866491
I screencapped this so i could post it to prove you wrong. See you in March.
Good, Nintendo is for children
>>340865452
I don't see how they're more anti-consumer than sony or especially microsoft.
>>340866946
Have fun bro.
RIP Nintendo
It's the end of an era for me. I never expected things to become this bad. I thought I could always count with Nintendo to deliver great games, but they've been missing the mark and I had to move on to other platforms.
It saddens me, because it just shows how life is uncertain. The one thing I thought was a constant isn't anymore.
I'm just gonna be sad knowing Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, and F-Zero will be dead forever because of Nintendo's mistakes.
That plumber fuck can stay dead for all I care. There hasn't been a single good Mario game since 2005, and that was a remake.
>>340866974
What sort of argument is that?
If rumors of the NX being a phone are true, we can probably say our farewells to Nintendo
Even if it is a powerful console, I just don't see it miraculously doing well. They just don't have the audience they used to. It's all tumbling down.
>>340867350
But FE is a big IP for Nintendo now
You should be more worried about sony, kiddo.
Btw, the list of nintendo games isnt even complete, I couldnt fit it all on screen without zooming out even further, which would make it illegible.
It's honestly kinda sad as a gaming enthusiast to see Nintendo fall so hard, and have no conceivable way to climb back up. I mean, I haven't had a Nintendo as a primary console since the fourth generation, but still. My first video game was on the NES. The first video game I ever beat was on the SNES. Nintendo changed the industry after it completely crashed and created some of the best games of all time. I don't want to see them have to drop out of the console market, even though I do think it was entirely their own fault that brought them here.
>>340867638
Sony's PSN made more money than the entirety of Nintendo. I think they'll be fine.
>>340866815
>>340865882
She never shitpost, just post the data she gets from the NPD.
>>340865259
I'm from VgChartz and Uncharted 4 sold 2.2 trillion copies.
You want proof? Well this post already contains our usual amounts of proof.
>>340867448
You have to be a kid to like Nintendo. There are grown men walking around with their 3DS in public, they seriously need to get their ass kicked.
>>340867448
Do you actually deny the main target of Nintendo's marketing is towards kids?
>>340867820
>and have no conceivable way to climb back up
They've had a million fucking oppurtunities to get out of their hole, but they're old, ignorant, and fucking retarded and for that they deserve to die.
>>340867898
>Aquamarine is a user that has NPD data that has been verified by current know leakers of NPD data, she now post on the VGChartz forums because she was banned on Neogaf.
>>340868020
I mean at this point. There was clearly a point where they could have salvaged the company, but it went out the door when they called their fucking system the Wii U, and I don't see any way for them to come back now without going turbo-shill on mobile games and dying only in spirit.
>>340867350
FE is a million seller now, they're going to milk the fuck out of it
>>340867856
Sure it did
>source: my ass/neofag
>>340867638
Sonygger status: obliterated
>>340868226
No, the sources are Sony's financial statements and Nintendo's Financial statements.
PSN made over 800M in revenue and Nintendo barely reached the same revenue in total as a company.
>>340868083
I verify this poster is a faggot, for I too am a faggot thus it's indisputable.
Immediately following on the heels of a title that outsold FUCKING STREET FIGHTER makes this entire thread feel relatively pointless.
Star Fox Zero is a victim of a corrupt press that cannot figure out how to enjoy a skill based game. Seeing people try and shit on the game for it's short length, it's controls, or it's gameplay is just plain laughable to me. Because this is the Star Fox game I knew I always wanted, and had a blast playing through it.
However, gamers today have been trained to avoid games that actually take some amount of skill and are wary of trying anything new. Enter Star Fox Zero. All of the complaints about this game can be summed up because audiences refused to actually play it.
>>340867638
I wonder if Sony really is really doing as well as people say they are. I only observe bone headed decisions from them.
Nintendo didn't have any games last month. Pokken came out in March, Zero came out in April.
The Wii U literally had 0 game releases in the month of May.
>>340866851
Jesus. I own a WiiU and I'm sure as fuck not buying #FE, and I'll be getting Half-Genie Hero on a different platform. Looks like Zelda is the only game left to care about, assuming they don't just cancel it and make it an NX exclusive. And assuming Miyamoto doesn't force them to control sword swings by slapping your dick on the screen.
>>340868226
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-04-28-sonys-psn-is-making-more-money-than-all-of-nintendo
>>340868368
with all that ps4.5 shit im sure they're about to catch some heat soon, pretty scummy desu
>>340868323
No you freaking idiot, when talking about NPD leaks there are users on several forums that leak this shit. You just compare their data and double check. I know /v/ is full of raging Nintendo fanboys that would rather cover their ears and not seen reality like >>340868226
but the sale data is just a reflection of reality and current trends and nothing more.
>>340868368
>i wonder if sony really is doing as well
Pro tip: they're not.
Console sales are not profitable. Game sales are.
And guess what Sony has, and doesnt have.
Also, people like to forget that they still have a 12 billion dollar debt.
>>340866885
The sales that are posted by VGChartz themselves have their own subforum — "Latest Charts". Aquamarine regularly posts on the Sales Discussion forum, as do the latest sales from Japan from all three sauces.
>>340868730
I'm actually furious with Nintendo for screwing me with the Wii U, but anyone who takes anything from VgChartz seriously is a retard. Adding that she used to be on NeoFag and got banned doesn't make that better.
>>340868607
Okay.
So you're saying Nintendo should start charging for online play too then? Because clearly only revenue matters, and are the only indicator of how good a company is.
Btw, you inbred little sonycrusader; revenue does not equal profits :^)
>>340868904
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-04-28-sonys-psn-is-making-more-money-than-all-of-nintendo
They made a profit not counting console and physical sales. And I guarantee you sony sells more software than Nintendo.
>>340865259
I hope they all die, nintendo, sony, microsoft
fucking die all, clean slate, I'm tired of the same shit
>>340869080
The discussion point should be the data she provides and not herself, you fucking idiot. And the data is solid and have been verified by people with access to said data and had a reputation in leaking said data in the past.
Take that as you will though.
>>340865259
The only console fanbase nintendo has left are the retarded casual weebs who buy censored shit.
Nintendo would of been dead already if it wasn't for their handheld.
>>340867929
>>340867963
their target was always families you stupid shits
>>340869095
Sony still made double the profits of Nintendo, it is in the same article he linked to you.
>>340869212
Wow, you are really proud of that article.
So tell me. Does Sony's financial state have anything to do with your well-being?
>>340868176
I bet they're going to give it the "reverse Mario" treatment, and make an action platformer with light RPG mechanics sprinkled in.
>>340868725
PS4K is what makes me suspect that they're not doing so hot overall despite the '40 million' they have sold. But yes, I imagine the people who did jump on PS4 out of the gate will be PISSED when it gets unveiled.
>>340868730
We've known for a while now that a lot of these '''''leakers'''' are false flaggers who collaborate in order to push stories forward. For example, Tamaki used to fall back on Emily Rogers to damage control a lot of his most outlandish statements, like the one where he claimed that Star Fox Zero would be delayed a second time.
There's a weird sort of industry behind the scenes about making shit up about Nintendo, don't believe that these people are fans or enthusiasts, they are making money pushing false statements like that, believe me.
>>340868904
... They're still in debt? I'm super critical of Sony and had completely forgotten about that.
So once PS4 stops selling well, which seems inevitable at this point, they will have nothing going for them, will they?
>>340869212
see>>340867638
Not only are you retarded, you're also illiterate.
>>340865259
>How do we save Nintendo
But their games.
>>340865452
>more anti-consumer than any other vidya company
Blatantly false.
>>340865825
Has nothing to do with Star Fox or Pokken.
>>340869483
Ofcourse they're still in debt. Where the fuck did you think 12 billion dollars was gonna come from?
>>340865259
K, Remove NoA. And don't just leave your consoles to die in the end of their life cycle.
>>340869347
The kids are the critical component of their strategies.
Sure, it's the whole family who goes to the nintendo theme park, but with out the kid, they wouldn't be there at al.
Same thing with the movies, the family go there because the kid wants to, and it's the kid who subsequently would want the new console because it has games featuring characters from that movie he liked.
>>340869356
He had to use the article, or else you would have kept spewing your bullshit.
It has nothing to do with him, but you.
>>340866851
>splashy duck
Who is hyped as fuck for the GOTY?
>>340869483
>We've known for a while now that a lot of these '''''leakers'''' are false flaggers who collaborate in order to push stories forward. For example, Tamaki used to fall back on Emily Rogers to damage control a lot of his most outlandish statements, like the one where he claimed that Star Fox Zero would be delayed a second time.
>
>There's a weird sort of industry behind the scenes about making shit up about Nintendo, don't believe that these people are fans or enthusiasts, they are making money pushing false statements like that, believe me.
While I agree, sales data don't have interpretations or anything like that, it is raw numbers, period. And the only reading possible is taking the numbers and comparing it with other numbers. And the NPD data leaks have always been about the numbers.
If nintendo numbers are low or in decay is has nothing to do with an agenda against Nintendo and more to do with the fact that Nintendo isn't appealing to the current market enough to sales games or consoles in a meaningful way.
>>340868368
No, SF0 just wasn't that good. TW101 fits your claim about the press better.
>>340868083
>she
>>340869632
It was just something I forgot about. I've been focusing on the quality of their software, which has been lacking, over everything else lately. I've found it's not worth the time or effort to find out exactly what's wrong with their financials, since that will lead to drones changing their tactics and nothing will get done.
>>340870062
She always refers to herself as a she, she could be a tranny for all we know but no pics of he/she or his/her name has ever leaked.
>Nintendo will be the Sega of our generation
I sure hope you guys are ready for an edgy Mario game
>>340870058
No, it's the same deal. People unwilling to learn new controls. They really aren't that different.
>>340869871
The problem is that people exaggerate Nintendo's failings while downplaying Sony and Microsoft's. I've noticed that a lot of titles that people claimed 'bombed' like TMS seem to actually have performed to expectations due to various other factors that hard sales numbers don't show. For example, people seem to forget that Zero IS a budget game that was put out to experiment with gyro controls. Now that they have developed the gyro to the point where it DOES work, I expect lots of other games using the feature to be developed. Freeing up the right stick being able to actually press buttons instead of having to slightly adjust your aiming all the time will go a long way to improving shooters.
>>340866186
>The autistic
>>340870753
>people seem to forget that Zero IS a budget game
130 employees over 2 years is your definition of budget game?
>>340867056
>WiiU: 18 Million
>>340870753
Microsoft has a monopoly on Operating Systems, what trouble could they be facing except for the Xbone underperforming?
>>340871157
The fact that it released at a lower price indicates that it was a budget game.
It was only $60 if you bought it bundled with Guard.
ZhugeEX is a fag, by the way. He's this years Tamaki.
>>340871607
>it released at a lower price
>It was only $60
60 dollars isn't low price, that's the standard.
Secondly, the launch price doesn't mean shit for how much budget went into the game.
>>340871256
And by March 2014 no less.
That's how highly Nintendo fans think about themselves.
>>340867056
DELETE THIS NOW
>>340867056
>people actually believed that mk8 would save the wii u
So, i guess we can ask. Will Nintendo ever go Sega and become a publisher instead of a hardware company?
>>340872487
>people still compare nintendo's situation to sega
>>340872487
For the millionth time, no, shut the fuck up with this publisher nonsense. Nintendo has Japanese pride and will never fall to the dirty gaijin.
>>340872487
NX seems to be their last shotGiven the whole BOTHHANDHELDANDHOMECONSOLE stuff going aroundif that bombs that should become their number one, if not their only, option.
>>340872841
>Nintendo has Japanese pride and will never fall to the dirty gaijin.
>>340871157
ZhugeEX is a neofag emigrant, and has his own blog (not updated regularly).He's also a Koeifag.
>NX going to fail
>mobile market ensures their next handheld won't be successful either
>>340865259
>>How do we save Nintendo?
Maybe Nintendo could try to moneyhat Grand Theft Auto 6?
60 million sales on 1 game would be pretty big.
On the flipside, if Nintendo bought Grand Theft Auto 6 and the sales tank, it would become Tortanic of unheard of proportions.
Not only would Nintendo lose billions, but Rockstar would also have killed itself and jeopardized the whole franchise.
>>340873185
You do know Nintendo does not own pokemon, right?
Right?
You're not really THAT retarded, right?
>>340875451
Nintendo does actually own part of Pokémon and TPC. Not that it has any relevance.
>>340876139
Keyword being "part", tardmonger.
TPC can do whatever the fuck it wants.
Im hoping they're saving everything for NX.
They probably aren't, but I'd like to believe that the reason they're not releasing any games right now is so that NX has a stellar launch library.
>>340876384
>game on 5 platforms sells as much as all games on one platform
wew
>>340877524
I believe the comparison is 1 IP against a multitude of less succeeding Nintendo IPs.
It's a title worthy of moneyhatting.
>>340870753
The controls are a mess and there's no denying it man. They would have been just fine with using normal controls to aim but no Nintendo just HAS to shove gimmicks into every singe facet of their games for some reason
>>340875451
So I guess that GameFreak or Creatures are now more important than Nintendo.
Sad.
>>340868368
Just because the controls are different doesn't mean they're good. That's a problem Nintendo doesn't seem to get.
Intuitiveness is something to factor in, and if so many people find your 'innovative' control scheme lacking, then maybe the blame shouldn't be put on them.
>>340872432
it's a shame, the game is good. best mario kart i've played so far
>>340865259
Pokemon
>>340868368
Pokken was at least genuine, while SFV was scammy.
Some players actually don't like to be dick around, when it comes to their games.
>dont make an original game in over 20 years
>wonder why people are getting tired of your shit
>>340869867
Im more hyped for the game that came out in fucking 2011
>>340879041
That's why I didn't buy SFV.
Pokken doesn't interest me in the slightest but I was looking forward to SFV before I knew all about it.
>>340879059
Yeah, thats why sonyggers only buy unique games such as unsharted 4: kneehigh wall boogaloo, feefer 2017, asscreed 108, hyperdimension trashtunia: still the same factory level edition
Here's my hot take: Nintendo doesn't need to compete with Sony/Microsoft on Da GWAFFIX because that train is headed for disaster station when they smash into the gap created by the PC.
Nintendo did their best when they made a system that was a.) easy to program for and b.) very cheap. I think those two elements could serve them well again. Right now the Bone and the PS4 are trying to compete in the arena of luxury pricing, so this is the perfect opportunity to beat them out by providing affordable, quality gaming (and it will more than likely snag kids as parents are more likely to opt for the cheaper option for their families)
>>340867013
Most of Sony games I played are not censored and have dual audio option (or don't even have anything but original sound).
>>340865259
They won't go away. At worst, they'll pull a Sega and pull out of the console business to stick to software development.
>Pokken Tournament does SFV numbers on a much smaller install base
>Because it's unique and something Nintendo hasn't done before
>Splatoon is a megahit that sells Bloodborne numbers and is a fad in Japan
>Because it's something unique that Nintendo hasn't done before
>Star Fox Zero flops
>Because it's the same shit they just released on 3DS with awful controls
FUCKING FIGURE IT OUT NINTENDO
>>340868725
Nintendo barely caught any heat for releasing the New3ds, why would a PS4.5 be any different?
>>340880197
now list all the other million unique IPs they did that no one gave a shit about
>>340880302
they at least advertised it as an upgrade with some exclusives, sony literally said they want people to buy both ps4s
>>340878528
The controls are intuitive. Full stop. And once you get the hang of them, you start to see just how much of an improvement they are over a more traditional control scheme.
Pic related is you right now.
>>340880068
>very cheap
For them to make, it is only a few buck cheaper than the Bone, with that hardware its kinda ridiculous.
They just need to catch up with the times, stop pushing garbage gimmicks, and listen to their fucking fanbase without adding the stupid monkey paw shit.
>>340880442
Oh shit nice opinion there m8, too bad not everyone can have an opinion as nice as yours
Nintendo didn't want to compete in the market and chose to be the one selling minigames to idk dumbass parents or something?
Anyways, what happened is, they marginalized themselves. Their core demographic grew up and started playing big boy games, and they had nothing interesting or competitive on the wii that could hold a candle to other consoles or the PC to attract new gamers to their hardware.
They made big bucks going with underpowered hardware and marketing to parents, but it has now bitten them in the ass. They have no market anymore. They became the fisher price of gaming, but then everyone forgot about them and they sunk into irrelevance.
>>340880670
Merely taking the time to browse Miiverse puts things into perspective. People who play the game love the controls. People who have never tried them don't.
It's not exactly hard to figure out what the problem is.
>>340880407
>But as many have heard, all of the games released for Neo will be compatible for the PS4.
>'All games will support the standard PS4 and we anticipate all or a very large majority of games will also support the high-end PS4,' said House.
wow you're right, its completely different
>>340880068
>Nintendo did their best when they made a system that was a.) easy to program for and b.) very cheap.
The problem happens because people like you live inside their own little bubble.
None of what you said is true. The hardware value of the Wii U is actually atrocious, ask anyone who can put together his own PC what he thinks about the Wii U specs at the price it cost, and they will laugh at you.
>>340880693
>playing big boy games
This always cracks me up.
>>340880442
Considering the complete failure of the Wii U, and it's tablet controller, I highly doubt the janky SFZ controls will catch on like console FPS controls.
But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.
>ITT: Autists and faggots think they know better than a company that's been in the video game industry for 35 years and the only one of the 'big three' to have never operated at a loss.
>>340880865
People who buy fifa every year say the game is good and different every year, people who never buy it say it's just the same rehashed bulllshit every year.
Who would you rather listen to, the people who actually buy all the games and know what they're talking about, or the people who just follow the "rehash" meme?
>>340881175
>the only one of the 'big three' to have never operated at a loss.
nice revisionist history there
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/7/5689878/nintendo-earnings-fy-2013
>Nintendo made an annual operating loss for the third consecutive year in 2013, ending up ¥46.4 billion ($457 million) in the red as Wii U sales failed to pick up following the holiday season. The Kyoto company's net loss was ¥23.2 billion ($228 million).
>>340880884
>"It is intended to sit alongside and complement the standard PS4," House explained. "We will be selling both through the life cycle."
>"The consumer is attuned to a different cadence of innovation in technology thanks in great part for the upgrades cadence on mobile phones or PCs."
>>340881065
Star Fox Zero came about because of Splatoon's use of gyro controls. In that game, it is commonly agreed that the gyro controls make the game easier to control. No one uses the stick to aim in that game.
I expect gyro controls to be a mainstay with all sorts of franchises where you aim at things. The gamepad is proving itself to be great at that sort of thing, where freeing up your right hand actually lets you press different buttons instead of aiming with the stick all the time. It will be built on, improved, and then become the new standard.
The games with gyro controls will become more immersive and interesting than dual stick games, just like how Perfect Dark lost relevancy to Halo.
>>340865259
So how badly is Street Fighter V selling?
>>340881421
The funny thing about this is that they confirmed that they haven't lost money on the Wii U. Apparently, that money was spent on investing in new businesses, like their new movies that we know are in production.
sure is a dark time to be a Nintendo fan right now I'll give you that.
But I truly believe all those games that were supposed to come to the Wii U have long since been moved to the NX and will be better off for it.
I'm going to jump ship once the NX reveal spells doom I guess
>>340881557
I've seen it going for ten bucks used.
That badly.
>>340881429
Complement as in give consumers more options on what model to buy, not complement as in you should own both. learn to read buzzword-ese
They may be going the way of Sega - focus on publishing multi-platform titles rather then trying to compete in the console market. I doubt they'll be leaving the gaming market entirely, but I wouldn't be surprised if they significantly downsized.
>>340881461
This fucking delusion.
Gyro isn't going to replace shit considering the games you're talking that pioneered it are on one of the biggest failures of a console released within the past two decades.
>>340882490
They've been experimenting with gyro on other shooters and aim related games as well. I know Federation Force has an option to use it, for example.
>>340882971
Federation Force, you mean one of the most actively hated games to come out in years, despite not even being released yet?
>>340883145
Pretendos are just a very, very vocal minority upset that a company doesn't pander to them. I wouldn't take their critiques of FF all that seriously. The same people bitched about Prime 3, 2, and Hunters as well.
>>340883490
Jesus Christ you are delusional. The animosity towards Federation Force has no connection to the other Primes or Hunters.
Hell, Hunters did things right. It was one of the best looking original DS games, and didn't compromise on its art style.
>>340883685
Also, you gotta wonder why exactly they shouldn't start pandering to people, considering this whole thread is about how Nintendo's games are selling like shit.
>>340883490
>Pretendos are just a very, very vocal minority upset that a company doesn't pander to them
That's one of the major issues with Nintendo.
They cater to new people playing games. The longer you have been playing games, the more issue you will take up with the content of Nintendo's games and practices.
To put it short, Nintendo punishes the longer time fans.
>>340882490
>>340883685
>d-d-d-delusion
Post yfw you will never be this pathetically autistic over someone not agreeing with your retarded opinions
>>340883685
Pretendos don't play the games. They just hold the games to a high standard because they look realistic and are ''''hardcore'''' because of it. This is why Prime 3 was shit on when it first came out. These people tried to play the game, could not get into it because they are casual babies, and then bitched about it.
Despite what you may remember, Prime 3 and 2 were very unpopular when they first came out because of these kinds of people. People single out Other M, but we've been seeing this kind of thinking since Super. Sean Malstrom, to this day, bitches about Super Metroid because he's a filthy casual.
>>340883854
>Still pretending nintendo games sell like shit when you're been proven wrong so hard, even your dead ancestors got btfo.
>>340883937
This guy is literally dismissing the opinions of countless other people by calling dissenters a "vocal minority", and "pretendos", and outright telling people not to take their thoughts into account.
>>340884149
Do you even know what thread you're in?
Look at the OP for a second.
>>340884203
Whereas you're some autismal fuckhead who has literally NO argument apart from "its shit because i said so"
>>340884076
You are literally making things up.
Prime 3 was released to high scores and never had the controversy surrounding Federation Force, not to the point of where its creator basically had to come out in a video and beg to people to accept it as a Prime game.
>>340884291
Okay autismo, meanwhile, you look at these >>340867638 objective facts, instead of bullshit from an ex neofag
>>340884437
But it was a Wii game, and dismissed because of that.
>>340884330
The gyro controls were heavily panned across the board with Star Fox Zero. I don't know what you want me to say in that regard other than to point you to the countless reviewers who took up issues with them.
Federation Force is facing animosity because it's visually unappealing in a franchise that's known for high quality graphics and style, while gameplay-wise looking like a slow fumbling co-op shooter.
>>340884449
There is simply more variety of choice in systems other than the Wii U. Sales are more concentrated for when new releases do come out, because that's all it likely has at the time. Other systems are filled with weekly releases, whereas Nintendo games are spread out over a matter of months.
It should say something when Nintendo's recent 'big' release was a complete blunder.
>>340884939
Because critics don't like playing games. This isn't hard to figure out.
Are you really going to say that W101 deserved the scores it got? Or God Hand?
Please. The same people think Uncharted is GOAT and that Gone Home was a mind blowing experience.
>>340885251
When claims of issues with the controls are so universal, flat out ignoring them as some reviewer conspiracy is laughable. Don't act like there were people who bought the game and didn't like them.
Again, you are stuck in this mindset where people who don't fall in line with your opinion seemingly 'don't count'.
Delusion.
>>340884754
People only started dismissing Wii games when it became a shovelware depository. Way after the release of MP3.
>>340884754
No it wasn't.
Prime 3 sold close to two million copies and has a 90 on Metacritic. That's an all around success.
>>340865259
They either need to design a competitive platform that appeals to third party developers or they need to scale down costs to accommodate being a hardware vendor that sells to handheld buyers and a niche of console buyers.
Or they become an Disney IP factory, and all is lost.
Nintendo made up only 5% of console software sales in the US last month.. It ain't fricking fair bros...
PS4: ~$133 million software sold in May 2016 NPD (~65% marketshare for 8th-gen consoles) (+88% from last May)
XB1: ~$62 million software sold in May 2016 NPD (~30% marketshare for 8th-gen consoles) (+26% from last May)
WIU: ~$11 million software sold in May 2016 NPD (~5% marketshare for 8th-gen consoles) (-38% from last May)
Source: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7934412
>>340865259
What? But last month best seller for Nintendo was Kirby robobo, which sold 300k in Japan alone.
>>340885552
People involved in circlejerks tend to have the same opinions, anon-kun.
>>340886412
I can use that same argument to dismiss rabid Nintendo fans who think the opinions of dissenters don't count.
>>340886586
Yep.
>>340869356
Are you okay, anon? You seem to be damage controlling hard
>>340869095
Learn to read drone, here I simplified the flow to you
Argument -> Nintendo is fucking up
Deflection -> you should be more worried about sony
Contradiction -> Sony is making more than Ninty on PSN alone, thus Sony is not in a worse position exactly.
Pretty straight forward if you ask me
>Sony Pajeets crying about incoming Nintendomination coming once more
Start your petitions to delete E3
>>340865259
they are so back in time it is embarrassing now.
if nintendo ever wanted to be saved they need to be more like sony/microsoft sadly.
because current day people wants everything machine in their house. if my smartphone is more powerful than the last console nintendo published it is no surprise that nintendo is losing console race. if nintendo doesn't make nx an everything machine they can follow sega's path for sure.
also censoring the shit out in western releases is not good too.
>>340886919
>Nintendo already said not to expect any new console announcements, opting instead to focus on the new Legend of Zelda. And maybe something on the recently announced Pokémon games.
consolewar shitpisting is still shitposting
>>340886339
Shhhh. You must not let people know the 3DS exists!
Kirby is great, by the way.
>>340886919
I really wonder what they're going to do to try and downplay how great Zelda is going to be.
>>340887227
I own a wii u and I really couldn't give less of a shit about the new Zelda
No matter how great it may be hyped up, if it doesn't appeal to people outside the fans, it's irrelevant
So yeah, it doesn't even need to be downplayed, just ignored
>>340884939
And "professional" critics said God hand was the worst game ever.
>b-b-but muh critics
Critics only think a game is good if the publisher lined their pockets with money.
>>340885207
>more choice
yeah, i can pick between low quality weebshit, the yearly feefer/asscreed rehash, and one of the countless powpow pissbabby shootey games.
>>340886702
>sony is not in a bad position.
Ringadingdong fagola, that 12 billion dollar debt called, it wants its money back.
>>340887824
You are literally creating a boogieman out of a faceless group of people that span a period of a decade or more, since you're actually bringing up a fucking PS2 game review into the conversation.
You also ignored how people who weren't reviewers weren't exactly always glowing about the controls either.
Face it, Star Fox Zero's controls weren't exactly considered amazing by most.
As for your other statement, good job on dismissing countless games just because they aren't on a Nintendo system.
>>340887957
I'm surprised by the prevalence of people that think debt works this way.
>>340887824
no man
you can pick actual racing games, actual fighting games, actual rpgs
i loved X but it's just not enough for rpg fans
understand that the wii u library severely lacks in variety
you might think your money is worth more than racing games fans or fighting games fans because "your taste is superior" or whatever underage mentality you nintenretards have
but understand the $60 of the racing games fans/fighting games/ass creed/etc. fans is worth towards supporting nintendo just as much as yours, no matter how much you deny it
>>340867090
nintendo never really stopped making good games anon
they just kinda ... stopped making games. which is understandable if the nx is around the corner
>>340866851
>>340866851
holy shit
too sad to even laugh at
>>340868368
SF0 objectively, has a ton of control flaws. but I understand where you're coming from, it's one of those control schemes (Just like W101) that has potential to feel really good if you put in the time needed to master it.
>>340887957
Your quotation is a strawman fallacy, underage. Don't misrepresent the argument
It is not arguing whether sony is in a bad or good position on its own, but compared to Ninty
And seeing how Ninty is sinking to irrelevancy and Sony isn't in the gaming turf I'd say no, worry more about Nintendo, because Sony seems to be holding up the bantz pretty well *in comparison*.
>>340888354
>b-b-b-but you can pick actual racing games,fighting games, rpgs
Same goes for WiiU.
>b-b-b-but those dont count.
Okay kiddo, I guess only trash like drive club, Shit fighter 5 counts.
Btw,there hasnt been a single good RPG on the PS4.
Whats next, you're gonna try n pretend that nisa/If trash is actually good?
>>340868368
>Immediately following on the heels of a title that outsold FUCKING STREET FIGHTER makes this entire thread feel relatively pointless.
Pokemon is a fucking massive franchise, it's pretty much guaranteed to sell no matter what at this point.
>Star Fox Zero is a victim of a corrupt press that cannot figure out how to enjoy a skill based game. Seeing people try and shit on the game for it's short length, it's controls, or it's gameplay is just plain laughable to me. Because this is the Star Fox game I knew I always wanted, and had a blast playing through it.
It has nothing to do with corrupt press. Reviewers also complained about the controls in Kid Icarus yet that game still received relatively good reviews. Star Fox Zero is just a mediocre game. Being able to move and shoot independently is cool, but it's not such a groundbreaking, innovative feature that it's worth the hassle of constantly having to switch attention between two screens
>>340889047
>b-b-b-but muh fallacy
Aint no fallacy my sad little sonycrusader.
if you want to compare sony to nintendo, go ahead. One company is in 12 billion dollar debt, the other has 10 billion dollar stockpiled, enough to continue operating until 2052 while running at a yearly loss.
But sure kiddo, Sony is in the better position.
>>340889270
You sure like to pretend Star Fox Zero is good.
The amount of fucking rabid fanboyism you're sperging on with is pretty impressive. Like,you're the definition of a drone: if it's not on a Nintendo system, it's shit.
>>340889548
>nowhere in his post did he mention SF
Only one drone here, sonypony.
>>340865825
I choose xbone then. I'm not gay lol
>>340889796
Go up a few posts and read the conversation at hand.
This literally stemmed from someone going on about how the people who reviewed Star Fox Zero were corrupt and that the controls were fine.
>>340889270
>but those don't count
they really dont dude, look how well wii u did in attracting those fans
And well, if we're talking PS4, everyone bought it knowing they'd show up there. From SO5, Tales of Berseria, new level up gamds like Ni no Kuni, and Ni Oh is amazing from what I played on the demo
And it doesn't matter if you downplay ang of these games, the money each fag buying the variety of those (RPGs alone) is very precious towards supporting the company
Including call of duty and ass creed.
If ninty had thus variety and attracted more people, that's $60 from each of those fanbases that would go a long way helping keep ninty afloat along its 1st parties
It's not because you're "core audience" means that your $60 is worth more than x fanbase you disapprove of, understand this underage
>>340889462
>Sony is in a better condition
Yeah I could give 0 shits about the company, its console is getting the games that I want
Ninty could be in 100 billion in debt or have 100 billion in the bank, if they dont do enough to have a decent relationship with the 3rd parties I care about, and doesnt get games I care about then it's meaningless
It just happens Sony actually tries to keep a good relationship with the devs I like, and I know that by the end of PS4's life span, it will have way much more variety and games than the Wii U
But by then the NX will have to make uo where the Wii U failed
>>340890004
Never seen a sonygger try this hard to deflect in every way possible.
>quantity is apparantly more important than quality.
>SO, the franchise that literally hasnt had a good game, ever
>tales, just lol. The series that still looks like a PS2 game in 2016
>shit no kuni, first one was trash, second one is more of the same. The DS version of it was better too, had more content
>nioh, another wannabe soulsgame
yawn.
And you can keep crying "b-b-b-but 60 bucks is 60 bucks" all you want, kiddo. It is irrelevant because sonyponies dont actually buy games.
>>340890735
alright man, you're missing the point and it's ok
maybe the NX ends up trying to make up for the lack of variety in the library
>sonyponies dont buy games
yeah, they buy consoles to play what they want
what is it now, 4x what the wii u sold?
the wii u isnt competing with the ps4 though
hopefully the nx will
So what are you guys doing to change the outcome? It seems all you want is to bicker amongst yourselves.
>>340890540
Deflecting again I see
>first he's all like "sony is in a better position financially"
gets btfo hard
>Then he's all like " i dont care, it gets games I want"
Which is another flat out lie.
Everything sony touches turns to shit, just look at street fighter 5. Look at Hitman, look at the FF7 remake. Look at FF15
>>340891127
>to play what they want.
Which apparantly, is nothing at all, if game sales are anything to go by.
Oh wait, they're prolly still awaiting greatness, only* on the Delaystation 4.
*Also on PC
>>340865259
And yet Pokemon will be the biggest selling game this year and Zelda U will be one of the biggest sellers. Are samefags and falseflagging making these threads big?Yes.
>>340890735
>quantity is apparantly more important than quality.
This implies Nintendo games are high quality, which I don't particularly think is the case with a lot of Wii U games.
I mean your entire argument seems to be framed around "Nintendo games good, Sony bad", when reviews aren't exactly citing the former as a shining example lately.
>How to save Nintendo
Step 1: Make games
Step 2: Fix the bad image you have made of yourself from censoring entire content of games
Step 3: ????
Step 4: PROFIT!!!!
>>340891668
>it gets the games that I want is a lie
wow dude, you seem to know me so well
really i bought the wii u for X and it was when it showed how poor the library variety is, since the next best thing I wanted to play was bayo 1 and 2
now I bought the ps4 for yakuza ishin and zero since I'm fluent in moon, yakuza 6 since I've played the whole series
Nier Automata looks really good, and Ni Oh was more like dark souls + ninja gaiden which was really rad
To better pin point the problem with the wii U library, right now at the end if its life span, ask any owner of the wii u which games they have/want to buy, the list will be mostly the same past a few third parties
But ps4 fags list will differ immensively, from each type of genre, that's 40+ million people some of them buying it for their reasons
be it bloodborne, call of duty, nier, ni oh or ass creed, or even a blu ray player
anything is fair game to make it more appealing and make it the dominating console
If ninty learns one little bit from sony this gen and apply it to the NX, maybe it wont turn out so shit after all
>>340891835
Comparing game sales from ninty consoles to sony/m$ consoles is retarded
Wii U fags dont have a lot of options, the 12 million who bought the wii u are mostly fans of nintendo franchises
while the other side buys the consoles for their own reasons, which means sales are more spread out among more niche games and multiplats rather than focused on a few exclusives like mario games
This is so obvious but you fags always fail to understand this
>>340892853
I'd be so much more on Nintendo's side if they just stopped censoring their games.
Without the censorship, they're the underdogs who've made a few goofs, with the censorship, they're a bunch of PC nuts who can't trust their fans, and openly ask people to spend the same amount of money for releases that are cut to pieces.
>>340865259
They are just too anti-consumer and keep making bad choices. The only apologies are excepted by the die hard fans, in the form of cheap sequels to games that are already on their 5th or 6th iterations.
I just want videogames, no gimmicks, no toys, not a fuck ton of DLC, no shit online, no shit hardware for ridiculous prices, no accessories that cost a fuck ton, just good games.
They've been providing all of the above with some really really bad software, and keep tricking people with stuff like Bayonetta 2, and they providing an underwhelming generation of games that are entirely forgettable.
Seriously, they are fucking nothing right now. They just continue to disappoint any that is sensible enough to see it, even with their portable platform.
>>340893525
that's what I would also say if I was you.
Fact is, the Wii was bought by many non-gamers, people completely unrelated to Nintendo fans. Yet, Mario Kart Wii as the highest selling exclusive had an attachment rate of 36%. Something Sony exclusives can not even dream of.
>>340865259
If the new Zelda is bad, I honestly won't give a shit about Nintendo any more. They'll always make enough money off their handheld with pokemon and mario in general so don't get your autistic console war hopes up in terms of Nintendo "going away"
>>340869483
>PS4K is what makes me suspect that they're not doing so hot overall despite the '40 million' they have sold
Sony makes 4K tvs, makes movies that release on 4k blurarys, and the current PS4 won't play 4k blurays since it uses a different laser.
They needed to do a revision to play the movies and figured they bump up specs while they were at it.
I agree it'll probably piss people off when announced but there's a reason why they're doing it.
>>340869212
thats revenue not profit.
sony has the trend of doing just afraction of their operational revenue on gross profit.
>>340865259
They should just go third party so that they're forced to make video games and not gimmick tech demos forcing the shitty gimmick into every nook and cranny of their games.
>>340871157
Serious question: how the fuck did Star Fox Zero take so long and cost so much to develop?
It barely had more content than the original game, which if I remember correctly, was made by a small team over a few months - maybe a year.
