How would you make a Song of Ice and Fire videogame?
MMO? Single-player adventure game? cRPG?
CDPR was in the talks to make a GoT clone of the Witcher games but decided to stick with 2077 instead. Good decision imo.
>>340853973
CK2 mod allows you to literally play SOIAF vidya
>>340853973
A MMO by Funcom would be so great
Open world RPG. Could it be done? Of course not, at least not if you want to give the world any scale, but I would give up both my nuts for a game that would let me explore a world that massive. I just wanna see what those far corners of the map look like.
even LOTR hardly had any good games, this wont be any different probably
Adventure game.
I wan't one where you play as Rangers of the Black and fight the whitewalkers north of the wall the wall.
Or the battle for Kings landing during Aerys' reign.
Or the battle between the first men and the children of the forest when the whitewalkers were created.
>>340853973
I just hope it's someone who understands the franchise, not fucking TellTales.
Imo that's the reason the MnB and CK2 mods are so good, it's made by genuine fans of the setting.
A good videogame for Asoiaf would probably be playing a Faceless Man in an open-world action adventure game with branching stories (different campaigns in King's Landing, Sunspear, Meereen for instance) or a RPG where you try to uncover a conspiracy that threatens to kill the King.
>>340853973
I wouldn't.
Politics and Video games don't mix.
>>340854234
Sauce?
I think they're probably the best people for the job. They'll need something to do after CP2077, right?
>>340853973
Grand Strategy. The mod for CK2 is pretty much what I'd expect.
>>340853973
Why would you not just play A Game of Thrones for CK2? It's everything you could ever want from a Song of Ice and Fire game.
Last time I played I unified the Stepstones, became pirate king and then kidnapped and raped the daughters of the king and his Lord Paramounts launching raids all over Westeros.
What's in Ulthos?
>>340854714
Theon's cock
I'd make a Mount and Blade with more content, an open world map and better writingbecause Martin is a fucking terrible writer.
I would hand dwvelooment to the elder scrolls team and laugh at all the weeping fanboys
>>340853973
>cRPG
Kill yourself.
>>340853973
that map looks really boring
>>340853973
>piece of land
>"The Dothraki Sea"
I'm glad I don't watch Game of Thrones
>>340853973
>>340854698
Yeah, nothing in the setting is particularly interesting. It's just a canvas for the okay drama. Of which your CK2 RPG-Strategy is the best outlet.
It's still fairly shit in that past a certain point though.
>>340854767
>because Martin is a fucking terrible writer.
>haha im a contrarian so I can feel superior to people who like things
xd
I think ESO has a thing where a player can become the emperor and is an extremely competitive position. It'd be cool if players could do that in a GoT MMO with the iron Throne but GRRM probably wouldnt like that too much.
Also wouldnt like stuff like Red Witch classes or Warg classes or basically any class with a rare magical ability becoming common as dirt.
>>340853973
Mount & Blade: Westeros
>>340854797
Very funny my friend.
>>340854714
Literally nothing beneath a question mark.
Very little is fleshed out, the world doesn't make much sense in a lot of ways.
>>340854882
I'm sorry for making truthful statements about a thing you like, Anon.
>>340854902
I haven't played it, but apparently star wars galaxies has a way of making force sensitives really rare, and trained ones ever more so.
That could be kinda neat.
>>340854797
8/8 m8
>>340854714
GRRM explained:
>Some of that is, Here there be dragons," Martin cautioned. "It's beyond the world they know." Of the other continents yet to be explored, Martin said he "deliberately" kept Sothoryos mysterious, to echo real-life history: "Even though Africa was known to Europe from the earliest days of ancient Greece,” he said, “we knew relatively little about sub-Saharan Africa."
>>340854797
It's called the sea because it's a literal sea of long grass stretching for hundreds of miles filled with the decaying remains of cities destroyed by barbarian savages.
>>340855069
So basically there are niggers there
>>340854882
Not the poster you're replying to but, I like things about game of thrones; and martin wrote well originally. However he's turned to shit the last few books he's written. Which is like all he's done in ten years or something.
>>340854687
... which would be another Witcher game most likely. OR something totally different, because they openly declared they are simply tired with sitting with the same material all the time.
>>340855143
Then call it the Fields of Dothraki
>>340854763
kek
Single-player completely unrelated to the events in the books.
Just Westeros, no Essosi bullshit.
Probably set it up in the pre-Targaryen era.
>>340855143
So edgy! No wonder teens have gello in their pants about this series
>>340855270
>which would be another Witcher game most likely. OR something totally different
Well, ASOIAF would be a bit of column A, a bit of column B, wouldn't it?
>>340855170
Niggers in southmemenameland, Ulthos is near successful far reaching magical cult city, so it's probably more important.
>>340855272
Very bland my good friend.
>>340855170
Yes, though GRRM describes them as "brindle-skinned half-men".
>>340854714
An octopus who speaks in puns.
>>340855191
I'm reading through A Feast for Crows right now and although I agree that it's less eventful and it focuses on unimportant characters and such, the writing is still top notch.
The visualization, plot, character development etc. is still as good as it gets. It's just that the book focuses on boring stuff.
>>340855272
Literal autism.
It seems everyone forgotten that game that came a few years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones_(2012_video_game)
It wasn't received well IIRC.
The Winds of Winter when
>>340855310
>Single-player completely unrelated to the events in the books.
>Just the most boring and vanilla fantasy location ever, no actual fantasy or adventure
ftfy
>>340855574
>muh dragons
Eat shit and die.
![george-rr-martin[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/05HTAAP.jpg "george-rr-martin[1].jpg")
>>340855570
When it's done.
>>340855676
It has been 4 years anon.
>>340855534
It wasn't too bad for a low budget title.
Daily reminder thatIT'S FUCKING CONFIRMED GET HYPE
>>340855403
Why people so insist on this? CDPR shows zero interest in the project and for good reason.
Namely - to not being labelled as "grimderp game dev".
And ASOIAF isshit not worth anyones time, especially not CDPR when they are making Cyberpunk finally
>>340855448
Yeah his writing is okay, it's just that as a creative endeavor, everything he's trying to do with the story is falling flat. I don't care about having half a book of Cersei, it's better to read than the Catelyn garbage. His ideas are bland and stale at this point.
>>340855670
It doesn't do anything particularly interesting with dragons, they just burn a few armies and then centuries later they have a couple of aerial duels in a civil war and then they're all gone.
Also why is the lord serving the food rather than a servant?
>>340855943
>And ASOIAF is shit not worth anyones time
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
A mount and blade stand alone that has a faction vs faction multiplayer. Have intrigue, lords able to die, marriages that produce kids, and some other cool mechanics, and you'd have my dream MnB X CK2 game.
>>340856057
>marriages able to produce kids
Can't wait to seduce NPC wives and cuck other players.
>>340855949
Because it's based Lord Wyman "Too Fat To Sit On His Horse" Manderly serving Frey pie.
>“My lord,” boomed Hosteen Frey. “We know the man who did this. Killed this boy and all the rest. Not by his own hand, no. He is too fat and craven to do his own killing. But by his word.” He turned to Wyman Manderly. “Do you deny it?”
>The Lord of White Harbor bit a sausage in half. “I confess…” He wiped the grease from his lips with his sleeve. “…I confess that I know little of this poor boy. Lord Ramsay’s squire, was he not? How old was the lad?”
>“Nine, on his last nameday.”
>“So young,” said Wyman Manderly. “Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived, he would have grown up to be a Frey.”
What's on Lonely Light, Summer Isles, Thousand Isles and the far east in general?
>>340856153
I know what it is, that image is better. It's just weird seeing the fat lord personally serve food to the guests.
>>340856231
It's the Akavir of AOIAF. Just weird shit in general
>>340856235
There's only so many fanart of that particular scene, not like I can afford to be choosy.
>The Lord of White Harbor had furnished the food and drink, black stout and yellow beer and wines red and gold and purple, brought up from the warm south on fat-bottomed ships and aged in his deep cellars. The wedding guests gorged on cod cakes and winter squash, hills of neeps and great round wheels of cheese, on smoking slabs of mutton and beef ribs charred almost black, and lastly on three great wedding pies, as wide across as wagon wheels, their flaky crusts stuffed to bursting with carrots, onions, turnips, parsnips, mushrooms, and chunks of seasoned pork swimming in a savory brown gravy. Ramsay hacked off slices with his falchion and Wyman Manderly himself served, presenting the first steaming portions to Roose Bolton and his fat Frey wife, the next to Ser Hosteen and Ser Aenys, the sons of Walder Frey. “The best pie you have ever tasted, my lords,” the fat lord declared. “Wash it down with Arbor gold and savor every bite. I know I shall.”
>True to his word, Manderly devoured six portions, two from each of the three pies, smacking his lips and slapping his belly and stuffing himself until the front of his tunic was half-brown with gravy stains and his beard was flecked with crumbs of crust.
Skyrim was supposed to be an ASOIAF game. They stuck with Elder Scrolls but decided to lift the plot of the books anyways.
>>340856231
Lonely light is just a distant Ironborn island.
Summer isles are stereotype black people traders and pirates
Thousand islands are some obscure nothing that isn't fleshed out and doesn't matter
The far east in general, past the gigantic meme mountain range is just like the Thousand islands, stuff put there randomly without any depth just so he could say that there is apparently more to the world.
Except Asshai, that's where the Red cult cunts come from.
>>340856043
Anon, riddle me this - who will pay any attention to it in two years, when the TV show will end?
Because you need roughtly 2 years to make a game from a scratch. And then dump shitload of money into marketing to get attention back.
In short - this is a dead-end financially. Big studios aren't interested, because they've already got their cash cows, the handful of medium sized studios can't take such risk and are busy with other projects and small-ass studios and indies don't have resources NOR cash for license.
Which is the reason why its not worth anyone time. It has nothing to do with game content or the setting or the series as such. Just simple economy
>>340856325
>to lift the plot of the books anyways.
The story in Skyrim is nothing like asoiaf and it was never meant to be like it either.
Why do you make this bullshit up?
>tfw GRRM is a hack so we'll never get to visit Asshai
>we'll never know the secret of the shadowbinders
>we'll never find out what is the heart of darkness
Just kill me
>>340856395
If a small, random Polish can make a worldwide successful fantasy RPG from a series no one outside of their own county has ever heard of, surely someone can make a GoT game work.
>>340856545
They built up a lot of momentum through releases and had a very generous budget and a lot of time
>>340856479
I want him to do prequal books, not going to happen though.
I would love a book about the children of the forest when they created the white walkers.
Also a book with Ned and Robert and their adventures when they were younger and the battle of kings landing.
>>340856395
The series was already popular before the tv series. Part of the reason it got picked up for such a high budget production. I think after the tv show is finished plenty of people will want more.
>>340856657
He said he wants to make a Silmarillion-esque book about the world of ASOIAF after he finishes the last book, but that is a big if, assuming he'll be alive by then.
>>340854575
This. Big fantasy settings are just too big. Even just doing Dorne to the Wall is so fucking massive.
>>340855670
>muh house wankery
No you
>>340853973
Single player RPG would probably work best. Decide between the major families (Lannister, Stark, Targaryen, Tyrell, Baratheon, etc), being a member of the Night's Watch, being a White Walker, or being a Priest of R'hllor.
Start with varying martial/diplomatic skill and decide how to play based on that. Play the Game of Thrones, kill White Walkers, kill people, play as you want.
Be aware that the consequences for your actions could include having bounties put on you or assassins (Faceless Men) hired to kill you.
>>340856450
>Death of a King causes a civil war
>Dragons return with magic
>There's a Red Wedding quest
>Draugr are White Walkers
>City names named after GoT
>Dragonborn is similar to Bran'ss storyline with the weirwood
Want me to continue? They were approached to make an ASOIAF game, but they knew their own IP would sell more.
>>340856657
>I would love a book about the children of the forest when they created the white walkers
I don't think the children actually created the walkers though despite what it implies, I think the children made a pact with the Great Other so they would turn men into soldiers, but at some point the Great Other betrayed the children and put the walkers against them.
>>340856756
I'd prefer an overworld map with key locations to a full open world. No sense mapping out large stretches of nothing with insignificant hamlets.
>>340856545
>Small
>Random
>Being this detatched from reality
It's not even funny, anon. And maybe it will shock you, but CDPR is a daughter company of a game publisher that throw a lot of dough to keep this compamy up and running. GOG? That's also the same mother company.
So they had shitload of resources and a lot of time. They churmed up 3 games within 9 years. That means 3 years per game.
So starting today, they would develop your imaginary "easy to make" game by late 2019. Probably delay it some more due to debugging to early 2020.
About two years after hype around GoT will die.
And since they are busy doing Cyberpunk, they won't even have manpower or resources to do any other game for following 10-15 months, so your GoT game goes to 2022 at least.
By that time nobody would remember anything but "brace yourself" meme. And unlike the case of Witcher, CDPR couldn't just market it in home country, since ASOIAF is pretty obscure in Poland, as compared with Witcher saga
>>340856692
>The series was already popular before the tv series.
Where? Among bunch of Anglophone fans? Those books weren't even published in half of Europe before the show roughtly hit 3rd season, that's how obscure those books are irl.
>>340856793
>City names named after GoT
wut
>>340857214
Sorry, my bad. 3 games within 11 years. After all, they've started working on TW1 in '05, not the year they've published it.
>>340855435
Wasn't GRRM, it was the editors who run his official fansite. That couple with the crazy ginger woman who goes on /pol/ rants at her blog.
>>340857214
>Where? Among bunch of Anglophone fans? Those books weren't even published in half of Europe before the show roughtly hit 3rd season, that's how obscure those books are irl.
The English speaking world is the mainstream. Your language is what's obscure.
>>340856924
>I don't think the children actually created the walkers though
It is confirmed, have you not watched the last couple of episodes of season 6?
>>340856793
Pull more shit out of your ass faggot
>>340857302
You mean Elio Garcia and Linda? They're not his editors, Elio is kind of an advisor to GRRM, Linda does video reviews for the episodes, nothing else.
>>340857350
>The English speaking world is the mainstream
Yes, that totally explains why shit that isn't translated to French, German, Spanish, Japanese or Chinese doesn't sell in those places, thus robbing you from 2/3 of entire market.
Not to mention dimishing sells in general, because your game has by default a language barrier.
But hey, stay deluded more about how game developing and publishing works, no wonder you are seriously expecting anyone making GoT game pass '13
>>340857254
The Reach
>>340857302
Not his editors, just a couple of nerds who run a fan site.
>>340857416
No man, I mean they like turn men into walkers with obsidian, but they don't actually created them, the Great Other did.
are the books getting into? the show seems like gore-porn for normies.
>>340857490
>he realizes I'm right
Stay mad Eldercuck. Bethesda are talentless hacks.
>>340857416
Did GRRM write that part though or is it just glorified fan fiction?
>>340857685
You are a retard if you think Skyrim is anything like asoiaf.
Fuck GRRRRRM
Those shits are wyverns, not dragons, dipshit fat gonna die soon cunt.
>>340857350
>Book series literally unknown to anyone but bunch of Americans before HBO picked it up for series
>HURR YOUR LANGUAGE IS OBSCURE DURR
>>340857876
You are a retard if you keep ignoring facts.
Game of Thrones is a bad series so you could easily find something better to make a game out of.
Maybe even something original
>>340857849
GRRM told the showrunners the major things that he'll put in the books as well as how he plans to finish the story. Surely some minor things in the show will be different, but I expect the major things, like Children making white walkers, Jon coming back to life, Hound coming back, etc. all to happen the same way in the books.
Only way to properly handle the large-scale world would be to have it in the vein of CK 2, a grand strategy.
This is the only way to handle all the intrigue and back handedness present in Westeros.
>>340858136
or Mountain Blade.
>>340858136
But that would only cover the war of the five kings, what about the individual things happening, like the riot in castle black, white walkers coming and Bran adventures beyond the wall?
>>340858213
Relatively unimportant and uninteresting.
>>340857572
Incidentally, French and German translations of ASOIAF were made in the 90s, with Spanish and Japanese to follow in the early 2000s, and Chinese not long afterwards.
So I don't really know what you're getting at.
>>340858194
>Mountain Blade
>>340858329
>Missing the point this hard
Different anon, but he was obviously talking how translating things help to make them revelant and sell better. Meanwhile, you are clinging to the book series like there was nothing else in existence.
>>340857627
The books are the same, but also badly written.
Normies love that, because they enjoy edgy stuff
>>340858289
Tell me you wouldn't want to play as, say, a newly-minted knight in service to a great house. You work at your skills until you're a force to be reckoned with and then have a choice: continue your loyal service or leave to work for literally any other faction. It has potential.
>GRR Martin
Please /v/ gets some good fucking taste for once.
>>340857627
The show will finish before the books, if you plan on reading the books the show will spoil the ending for you so I don't see the point unless you manage to avoid spoilers for about 10 years.
>>340857917
Just because you didn't know about it that doesn't mean nobody else did.
>>340858506
This
>>340858506
>Talks about good taste
>Rand in god tier
>Catch 22 in low tier
The irony is strong in you
>>340858506
> I dont like fantasy nor niggers admire my tastes
>>340858506
reading any of those books is fine, or any book for that matter you pretentious fuck
>>340858405
>he was obviously talking how translating things help to make them revelant and sell better
Yes, so his point about the series being obscure and irrelevant before the tv show was obviously mistaken then, wasn't it?
>Meanwhile, you are clinging to the book series like there was nothing else in existence.
what
>>340857627
The books aren't on par with say, LotR, but they are still miles better than most of the fantasy crap out there (which doesn't necessarily make them good, but whatever).
Shitposters and contrarians will tell you otherwise, quoting some shitty lines about someone taking a dump, but really just check them out yourself.
You can get the paperback of them all for 25 bucks on amazon.
>>340858506
>Atlas Shrugged
>God Tier
I alwas wonder if this picture is supposed to be bait, or if the guy who made it is really that retarded.
>>340858556
>You
How about entire fucking world?
No, really, under what rock you live to not realise fantasy literature isn't exactly mainstream stuff? Hell, the fucking show is openly credited for making fantasy somewhat mainstream-ish, due to being first big budget fantasy TV show and not just some shit created to fill the programming
>>340858506
What a bunch of required high school reading entry level pleb meme shit.
>>340858497
I wouldn't mind such gameplay, I do not believe this setting lends anything to such a game; which would be better in another setting or a new one.
I view ASOIAF as a drama.
>>340858506
>Atlas Shrugged
Kill yourself my man
>>340858506
>gatsmeme in god tier
Please kill yourself.
>>340853973
>that map
Is that made by the creator of Falskaar?
>>340858553
I am reading the books now after watching the series. I am still enjoying myself, you get more insight on certain cahracters and there's whole story arcs that differ from the series. Also it's not certain the series will end like the books, they are growing apart more and more.
>>340858506
here is a (you)
Why would you ever make a game about a setting this boring?
>>340853973
me? pixel graphics game made in rpgmaker
A generic action rpg would lame. A Game Of Thrones game should be completely focused on the story, dialogue, and the decisions you make like Heavy Rain and Indigo Prophecy.
>>340858641
Did you saw a SINGLE ASOIAF thread anywhere in the net before the show?
So here goes your "it wasn't obscure". By your logic, Witcher should be well-known, since it was translated to every single fucking language (including Chinese and it's pretty solid translation) aside English by '05.
Somehow nobody heard about it until vidya became a hit.
>>340858803
>Plato
>>340858726
I see the large number of factions, fantasy setting, and large territory as a pretty good video game setting. That said, doing it right, mixing the subtleties of politics with a good combat system, all wrapped in a role playing experience, would be hard and even trying would be too risky for most developers.
>>340858596
>There are people who seriously consider fantasy anything than brain-numbing entertainment, ergo shit tier
>>340858802
>Also it's not certain the series will end like the books
D&D already told like a thousand times that they had a meeting with GRRM where he told them how he's going to finish the story, they also discussed other themes like Jon's true parentage, the origin of white walkers, etc. The major events will be the same as they're happening in the show.
>>340858674
>How about entire fucking world?
Oh, you mean normies, like yourself.
I wasn't even particularly into fantasy literature but even just hanging out in nerd circles in the early 2000s I heard praise for ASoIaF and had a vague idea of what it was. It was as mainstream as fantasy got, pretty much.
>Hell, the fucking show is openly credited for making fantasy somewhat mainstream-ish
You mean like Peter Jackson's LOTR movies did in 2001?
>>340857214
You do know that CDPR didn't have a lot of money while they were making Witcher 2, right? It was a small random company when they made the first Witcher.
>>340858939
The fantasy isn't particularly interesting and the factions are either not very diverse or polar opposite caricatures.
>>340858803
>Graphic novels
How to spot an American
>>340858506
>great gatsby
I can already tell by the first book your a pretentious twat
>>340858803
>ulyssess, crime & punishment, moby dick
had to read that in high school desu
I spent 5 minute typing to just delete it all and give this answer-you simply can't. There's no way you can do a game without it either fucking up the lore or forcing it to be located in just Essos or beyond the Wall.
>>340859001
>You mean like Peter Jackson's LOTR movies did in 2001?
Did you saw NORMIES wanking about fantasy? Any spike of interest from anyone? You know, like your average dudebros?
Oh, right, but you are living under a rock, so how could you know.
>>340859007
You do know that currency difference is a thing?
They made the Witcher 3 for just about 80 million dollars.
>game based on intrigue amongst a bunch of shit-eating incompetent, vulgar "nobles"
GRRM IS A HACK
so many better fantasy universes to steal from
>>340854902
The rare magical ability classes could work like the Jedi do in SWG, but I doubt that shit would fly in any modern day game
>>340859152
And? They still were a small random studio before Witcher 2 came out.
>>340859161
GRRM said once that the whole point of his books is that war never leads nowhere, so I expect a very anti climatic ending.
>>340858960
If you dislike brain-numbing entertainment what are you doing in a videogame board?
And don't try to argue there is any videogame that is not brain-numbing entertainment
>>340856395
>Who will care about Harry Potter after the movies end?
>hurr durr
>>340859007
I guess you never heard about CD Projekt then, their mother company, you dumb cunt.
Jesus, I just love when non-Poles are teaching me about CD Projekt and CDPR.
By Polish standards, they were swimming in cash. And since their spendings were in Poland, well, go fucking figure.
>>340859024
True, but it's interesting enough to provide a background. The true focus would be, depending on your choices, the impact you make on the world around you. You might make a knight and rise to become commander of the city watch in King's Landing, only to one day decide to murder Tyrion Lannister and flee the city.
Your actions changing the world and its politics, even if it's just murder. That's what I want.
>>340853973
I would just retexture skyrim
>>340859224
>HURRR
>I WILL REPEAT THIS BULLSHIT UNTIL YOU ALL GET BORED WITH ME
>DURRR
They weren't, deal with it
>>340859258
Anon, nobody but hardcore Potter fandom cares about them for a fucking decade. So way to go, buddy
>>340859258
so many harry potter games now that the movies are over right?
>>340858871
>Did you saw a SINGLE ASOIAF thread anywhere in the net before the show?
Yes.
>So here goes your "it wasn't obscure". By your logic, Witcher should be well-known, since it was translated to every single fucking language (including Chinese and it's pretty solid translation) aside English by '05.
So basically you introduced a red herring so you could turn around and say it doesn't matter when proven wrong.
Well alright. Fantasy and GoT in particular are going to remain popular for a while, though. I imagine the book series has also never been more popular than it is now, and that will continue past the show. CDPR also has a reputation of its own that would probably help. And it's not like fans of the show are suddenly going to disappear after it ends. They'll probably love an original story set in the same universe.
I really don't get how you can say it's never going to work and it's too late and too obscure and no one would care by the time it's out.
>>340859240
/lit/ called. They want to know why are you outside of your containment box.
>>340859327
CK2 mod can basically do that. No real reason for an entirely different genre of gameplay being the medium for it instead.
>>340854902
Red Priest/Priestesses and Wargs would have to have prerequisites and questlines. A Warg, for example, would have to be of Stark/Northern blood to even perform the questline to become a practicing Warg. And then he'd need to find and bond with a beast.
>>340858506
>Catch-22
>low tier
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
Fuck off /lit/, you're the /v/ of books.
>>340859226
Then why bother reading? That's my biggest point against the series. Why reading something that is intentionally spitting on you on constant regular basis. It's not like they are well-written or interesting, they are all just pretty much shock for the sake of shock.
>>340859461
I can see the bestiality RP already being written.
Grand Strategy like Crusader Kings II is the only viable choice.
>>340859447
>Being this tier retarded
>Still going on pointless rant
>Didn't even notice anons switched few times during the argument
We got it, you like the series. Now skid off
>>340859382
>nobody but hardcore Potter fandom cares about them for a fucking decade
Why would anybody else care? You're not making sense.
>>340859420
It's because they made 50 of them and milked the hell out of the franchise. Harry Potter is still popular enough that people even on /v/ want MMORPG's and open world games in the Harry Potter universe.
>>340859540
Shockingly, in a world with child rape and homosexuals, animal-fuckers seem rare. I guess they're not that depraved.
>>340859119
>Did you saw NORMIES wanking about fantasy?
Yes. Everyone fucking saw those movies.
>Oh, right, but you are living under a rock
Yes, the rock that apparently offered me a great vantage point to see all the things you missed.
This is the complete opposite of how that idiom works you tit.
MMORPG, Indie, Early Access, Zombies, Survival
>>340858506
that image is hilarious. To think some retards on /lit/ take it seriously amuses me to no end
>>340858803
>tommaso d'aquino
pffffft
>>340859525
Because it's entertainment as long as it lasts, GRRM books always have pointless stories, maybe it's the way he likes to write, wouldn't be much different from his life story.
>>340853973
Ever play the campaigns of Total War? Pretty much that is the only way to make a huge game like that.
>>340859447
... and this is kids how fan dumb looks in action.
They are not going to make this game. They are not interested in it. They want to diversify themselves, instead of getting tagged for single genre.
So how about stop daydreaming and instead play GoT mod for CK2?
>>340858506
>The stranger
>Albert Camus
wow I've actually read something from that list
I liked it
>>340859627
In ASOIAF?
I'm pretty sure Ramsay has his dogs fuck his wife/random girls.
If you could pick only one era from ASOIAF to play in, regardless of what kind of game it would be, which one would you choose?
I'd want one where the First Men still ruled Westeros and the Andals were only beginning their invasions.
>>340859625
And?
No, really, maybe you didn't notice, but they've milked it when Harry Potter was the hottest shit around. Not when the material making it popular got stale or ended completely.
And for your record, GoT will end next year. So unless somone pulls a quick one with a vidya, they are going to miss their window for marketing and deliver something nobody will even want to touch due to death of hype around the TV series.
It's really that simple.
>>340853973
>show hasnt has barely touched on 30% of that map
Makes me sad, would be more interesting to see how the rest of the world works
Assuming a competent writer was involved
>>340859798
Shit, you're right. Forgot about Ramsay, then again, people always forget about Ramsay.
>>340855330
>Mongols are so edgy no wonder historians are all teens
>>340859603
>Being this tier retarded
Not an argument
>Still going on pointless rant
Not an argument
>Didn't even notice anons switched few times during the argument
I don't care who the fuck you are, if you're going to jump into an argument, keep track of what you're arguing for.
>>340859747
>They are not going to make this game. They are not interested in it. They want to diversify themselves, instead of getting tagged for single genre.
That's hardly even the point. Sure, fine, it's their decision. I'm just saying that if they WERE interested they'd do a good job of it and it's not really a question of financial viability, and you idiots got rekt arguing against it.
>>340855574
>not doing Dunk and Egg
>>340859924
More like the Huns, the Mongols didn't obliterate random shit; they mostly occupied and/or demanded vassalage. They only completely fucked over a few things as displays of power or punishment.
>>340853973
You really can't make a generic choose your knight/archer/mage class MMO or RPG be representative of GoT. The story really isn't about fighting with swords and spells, but about intrigue and power.
Something that could work is a MMO like EVE, where players could be Kings or Lords of regions and have other players serve them. Players could simply be merchants or masters of whispers or whatever and never even use a sword.
If you want to really make it about sword fights I'd go with single-player adventure.
>>340859625
Anon, maybe it didn't occure to you, but we are no longer in 2002. If you are going to make a vidya, it takes time and shitload of money.
Making AAA game for bunch of fans of something that is forgotten by general public within few weeks after last episode?
Nobody is that stupid. Games are made for as broad public as possible, for better or worse. Nobody gives a fuck about small niches anymore, unless you are an indie dev. Then niches are all you will ever fill. But that's actually ok.
Back to the subject - it's dead-end financially and your comaprison with HP made no sense
>Valyrians are steampunks
Wish this show would just end already.
>>340856657
read the D&E books
>>340859869
Age of Heroes for sure.
>>340859906
The point is, Harry Potter fans weren't deprived for games. Even if the show ends, the books continue.
It's not as big a fanbase as the show fanbase but it's still sizable. Especially since the show introduces a good amount of new readers.
>>340860013
>>340860140
>smug anime girls
It's like the /v/ equivalent to a white flag.
Maegor the Cool was the only decent Targaryen.
>>340860075
Then they can make an appropriately budgeted game. It doesn't need to be AAA, why do you think it needs to be that?
And as I told the other anon, the books still continue and even though the book fanbase isn't as large as the show watchers there's still good money to be made there.
>>340859906
You do know there is another book recently released and new films in the works?
For all of Aegon the Unworthy's flaws, he seemed to have had a fine taste in women.
>>340859286
>>340859382
>only known in Poland
>not a random as fuck studio
Polacks aren't known to be very bright, you proved that point. Then explain why they had money troubles while developing Witcher 2 fucking retards.
>>340860286
>recently released
Winds of Winter isn't out yet.
>>340860096
>Still missing the point
Anon, let me re-itterate
When Harry Potter was the hottest shit in the market, there was no such thing as "hardcore fandom". By then, EVERYONE was a potential member of the fandom, because it was the most hyped thing around for few years. Meaning you could sell a turd with HP tag on it and people would buy entire stock of it. THat's how hype works.
Now fast-forward when the series reached the point where popularity was waning and then the films ended. Effect? The hype died with a flick of fingers. Who now buys stuff related with HP? Hardcore fandom. A small group that is constantly thinning in numbers. Sure, there is still money to be made on this, but not ALL money.
And vidya industry, especially the AAA sector, runs on mentality of "ALL money or not interested at all"
So fanbase can be as big as you want, but the moment the reason why its big and strong is cut, the base cease to exist. It's called "May fandom" in my country, meaning people who just caught up on something, because it's currently popular, but will drop without any remorse the thing when the popularity drops.
>>340860368
I meant Harry Potter.
>>340859286
CD Projekt weren't game DEVELOPERS you fucking retard. Funny that Poles know less about their country than outsiders does.
>>340860309
Who knows or cares? We're looking at pathetic fan art of obscure pointless shit. Tracing is way too obvious as well.
>>340860208
Should we all pin you a medal for winning internet argument or what?
It's an anonumous imageboard, and you are seriously thinking about it like some sort of battle of wits.
>>340853973
Why is the SOIAF map so boring?
>>340858015
Nah he will be bitter the show did it better and change everything to fuck with people
>>340860461
>fan art
That's in one of GRRM's books lad
>>340860461
Fan art? It's artwork from The World of Ice and Fire, the stuff that was written and had to be approved by GRRM, so it's not fanart at all.
>>340860396
If CDPR could turn a buck off of The Witcher there's no reason they can't do the same off of ASoIaF, even if it's after the peak of its popularity.
>>340858506
>Atlas Shruggedxd
>>340860396
But the fact is, people still care about the franchise. It didn't disappear into oblivion. If they made a new Harry Potter game, people would still get hyped, because they cared about the franchise at one point.
Take Star Wars instead of Harry Potter if it please you. Star Wars fans didn't dwindle after the original trilogy. The fanbase only grew larger as time went on.
>>340860232
>It doesn't need to be AAA, why do you think it needs to be that?
It's not me, it's the industry.
Seriouslu anon, 2016 and you are asking such questions? Can you even list ANY mid-sized game dev and game publisher that is the middle ground between AAA business and indie games?
>>340860286
And what does they change? It's the penultimate/ultimate season of the show. It's the last book to be relesed. My entire point is about how the series is in the end of it, so nobody will pick it up, due to the end of the line problem.
Honestly, it;s like hitting a concrete wall with peas
>>340860462
>battle of wits
Too bad none of you came properly armed.
>>340860341
>Only known in Poland
Yes, because GOG is not known to everyone around the world, you stupid cunt.
>>340860503
>>340860523
And do you think he sat down and gave a description of each? Or do you think he just said wives and then his editor comissioned somebody to paint a number of very similar women with different hair colors(unspecified) in different psuedo-medieval outfits?
>>340860452
>Specifically noted as mother company
>Still confused it for game dev
Reading comprehension must be really badly taught in your country, whatever it is.
>>340860732
Yes considering there are descriptions of each in the book
>>340860732
You can think that they're drawn poorly or drawn well, I don't give a shit about that, but I'm just telling you it's not fanart.
>>340860524
... and here we are, back to base one...
I simply give up. Just like CDPR gave up on the idea after preliminary research in '14
>>340860585
Unless it would be followed by massive marketing campaign, people would not only didn't even learn about it, they would openly ignore it.
Seriously anon, how new are you to vidya industry to believe in "self-generated" hype?
And maybe it didn't occure to you, but SW was kept alive for years, in different formats and media. So your comparison makes no fucking sense.
>>340860658
It launched in 2008 and wren't known at all back then, are you literally that fucking stupid?
>>340860746
And? CDPR was a random small studio who owes their success to Witcher 2's sales on consoles.
>>340860801
Here's descriptions he gave to an artist on how they should make each king for example
http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Targaryen_Kings
>>340858506
I liked the writing in Atlas Shrugged, but I really wish the political message hadn't been so heavy.
There's basically 80 pages of her trying to ram that shit down our throats in the form of a radio broadcast.
give me Malazan vidya instead
>>340853973
An RPG where you wander about as a hedge knight would be pretty cool
>>340860905
Why does the way the hype is built matter in this situation? Of course there will be marketing, why would the devs want their game to fail?
>And maybe it didn't occure to you, but SW was kept alive for years, in different formats and media. So your comparison makes no fucking sense.
And how do you know that ASOIAF won't be kept alive the same way? What makes you think people will suddenly lose all interest when the show ends?
>>340860585
HP
>Single author writing 7 books
>Bunch of decade old films
>Aged merchandise
>The only thing going around is the author sprouting bullshit on her twitter to stay revelant
SW
>Multiformat, multimedia franchise going for 40 years
>Plethora of authors and creators working for it
>Entire fucking STUDIO churming nothing else but franchised games
>Marketing going in different directions all over the world for all that time
>A new film released once per 6 years on average
Are you seriously making this comparison?
>>340861098
Start as a squire, become a knight. Where you go from there is up to you. Which house do you serve, or do you serve one?
>>340861051
What would you like to be depicted most?
Chain of Dogs would be based.
>>340860658
Kek Polacks will literally defend anything from their shithole country till the last breath. I guess that makes sense when not much good came from Poland.
GOG wasn't well known at all back when it launched, try harder.
>>340861127
I didn't compare them, anon. I was just pointing out that popular franchises don't just "die out" with all the people losing interest in them.
>>340861119
Anon, hype is only generated one way.
By marketing department.
And that costs money. So to spend the money in the first place, you need a reason to do so. In simple terms - you must know for sure there will be a profitable deal out of it in the end. So the less money you spend on hype-generation, the more profit you will make.
So what's cheaper? Generating hype from scratch or using pre-existing hype that someone else created for you and you don't need almost any investments in it now?
>And how do you know that ASOIAF won't be kept alive the same way? What makes you think people will suddenly lose all interest when the show ends?
Read this anon: >>340861127
You are so naive toward how marketing works it's actually amusing. Because at first I was sure you are baiting, but instead you honestly have no clue how this stuff works.
>>340854882
He relies on shock and sex scenes,actual plot and worldbuilding left in second book
>>340853973
dude the map is a fucking dragon how have I never noticed this before
>>340860905
>Just like CDPR gave up on the idea after preliminary research in '14
Okay, cool. I'm sure they had their reasons. But I still don't think that not being able to sell the damn thing is one of them.
It could be open world but each land would have to be a separate expansion if they wanted it to be fuck huge, similar to how W3 did BnW.
>>340860957
>Bringing consoles to the argument
>>340861330
His sex scenes are ridiculously shit and forgettable. The only time they're ever taken notice of is by normie showfags.
His 'shock' is garbage as well. That anyone gives a fuck with his hamfisted attempts at unexpected twists and excitement is only a commentary on how creatively braindead the wider population is.
>>340861340
Why is the top fin specifically not where the fin-shaped penisula is?
>>340859378
Funny, that what you'd really get from Bethesda at E3
>>340857626
Wtf are they doing in Gothenburg. Pretty sure that's Eriksbergskranen in the background.
>>340861323
That doesn't answer my question. We don't know if the franchise will be milked the same way as Star Wars, you're just making an assumption.
>You are so naive toward how marketing works it's actually amusing. Because at first I was sure you are baiting, but instead you honestly have no clue how this stuff works.
Keep your ad hominems out of the conversation.
The facts are, ASOIAF is a highly successfull franchise like LOTR, SW or HP,
the fans of these types of fantasy franchises don't just lose interent in them,
the game doesn't need to be marketed to the masses, it can very well be a AA title, marketed towards the core audience.
There is no way to know if a game made after the TV shows will be a success or not.
>>340853973
I'm not an expert, but isn't this type of landscape impossible, geologically speaking? Stuff just feels like it's in the wrong place, or too big/small.
>dothraki sea
>it's land
>>340861757
>interent in them
interest
>>340861739
Maybe they live there.
>>340861360
... because?
Here, let me list why it's the main reason
>No clue what kind of game is should be
>If anything else than TPP, then they have zero experience with it
>If anything else than action, they have zero experience with it
>Multicharacter story without a single person that can be treated as "the lead"
>Multilined plot that apparently goes from nowhere to nowhere, just dragging shitload of events along the way
So here we got it on the "why CDPR won't touch it on technical reasons". How about marketing then?
>License fee
>Unable to dump the game on their homefield to play it safe, since GoT isn't exactly popular in Poland (they've got Witcher already for 30 years)
>License fee, really
>Need to run another massive marketing campaign, while all their resources are already tied down to other project
>As already mentioned, the inevetable end of the series, meaning popularity will take a hit, even if minor
And most importantly - GoT isn't that popular in Poland. It means they aren't interested in it, because it's outside of their own interest.
After all, why would you make a game about stuff that you don't care about?
>>340855943
>Namely - to not being labelled as "grimderp game dev".
Sapkowski is a hack too and had a higher amount of deaths and sex scenes in the last books then ASOIAF and they made a good game out of it.
If GRRM will give CDPR a free hand they can do something not grimderp out of it.
But GRRM is even more arrogant then Sapkowski so I doubt it
>>340861479
Nice reading comprehension, retard. Did you know that 70% of Witcher 3's sales were on consoles? Really makes you think, huh?
>>340861759
Look up "pangea".
>>340861881
I'm not sure why that didn't occur to me.
>>340861759
Depends on so many variables, and we're in magical fantasy land so you can move the goalposts as you will to explain away such critiques.
Which is reasonable. Geological plausibility has no place in making a good map.
Not saying this is a good map though.
ASOIAF is objectively a better setting than Witcher.
The Witcher setting is literally the most generic shit. The games are good because of the amount of content.
>>340861757
>Still not getting it
I guess there is no point explaining then, because all the explaination already happend.
Concluding - the hypothetical game won't sell as good as you think it would, unless massive budget will be spent on marketing. Nobody is interested in that, since it's no longer "quick buck" project when you need to pull extensive marketing.
>>340861893
>Here, let me list why it's the main reason
Those are all other good reasons though. Seem to me to be far better ones.
>>340861906
Anon, they've literally got license for Witcher by asking Sapkowski if they can.
They would have to pay a pretty penny for license for GoT
I just want to see Asshai in some form of media. What character has the highest probability of going to Asshai?
>>340862257
Red cunts have been trying to drag dany there for ages.
She'll probably fly over there for a quick look or some shit.
>>340860492
This is seriously what I think will happen. One last fuck you to showfags.
>>340862064
CDPR made Witcher setting interesting and unique.
>>340862126
>not being able to sell the damn thing is one of them
>let me list why it's the main reason
Does it makes more sense now?
>>340862072
I get your point well enough, what you're not getting is that not all games to a successful franchise need to be massive AAA games with huge marketing to be successful.
Just the name alone can be enough to get people to buy games.
>Concluding - the hypothetical game won't sell as good as you think it would,
That's such a vague thing to say. I could just say that it won't sell as low as you think it will, doesn't mean much.
>Nobody is interested in that
How can you speak for all the dev studios in the world like that? A fan of the series could just make a game for his own pleasure without caring about the financial success. You don't know.
>>340862064
While I agree that Asoiaf > Witcher, I can't help but think you dismiss is too quickly. Witcher is interesting because it's a normal world where surnatural elements got hurled through a cosmic event and are actually dying out. It's interesting to get the perspective of the last member of a dying caste that most people actually forgot about.
>>340859658
Arguing with foreigners. Not even once.
>>340862064
>I only know the setting from god-awful English translation
While the setting isn't really that complex, the English translation butchered everything good in Witcher with shitty translationar job. At times it reads as if someone didn't even finish the page before starting to write a translation of the text.
>>340854882
GMM is pretty good at the worldbuilding aspect. But his actual prose is shit m8
