Warcraft lore thread
>>340852565
Sure
WoW didn't happen
>>340853131
vanilla wow and wotlk have some pretty good lore tho
>>340852529
This single pic made me create a shadow priest
>>340854589
shadow is void now and shadow priests are old god cultists basically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3qwcxLIzvM
Best Song.
I wanna go deep in Maiev's lore
>>340854868
Daily reminder that they are canon.
>>340854791
Precisely
WE WUZ EMPERORS AND SHIT MON
Dump incoming.
Why is Karazhan still the best raid in the game?
>>340852529
I want a poster with that
>>340855850
Thats not naxx or ulduar
>>340855742
thats great
Fucking kill me already
tfw Legion actually made me like Warcraft lore again
Daily reminder that Illidan is paladin now
>>340855937
Naxx and ulduar are great, but not anywhere near as atmospheric as Kara. But all 3 raids have a theme in common, it feels that you realy should not be dicking around there.
>>340856001
He's now purple jesus
>>340856035
i have not played cata or mop, isnt that the legendary staff in the bottom? what does it have to do with arthas?
>>340855937
>i can solo the boss !!! best raid ever!!
>>340856091
Well, Metzens baby Green Jesus finally became weak and a cheater and prolly he, in a coke induced rage, decised to make new Med'an tier character
>>340856012
dont know pham, for me, noting comes close to naxx, strictly atmosperically speaking
especially old naxx, combining it with the plaguelands atmosphere
Void Lords are a fucking joke
End of dump.
Everything up to the frozen throne is canonical. The frozen throne is canonical with the exception of the following parts:
>Kil'jaeden forgiving Illidan
This was a misstake to appease to edgelords. Illidan is dead.
>The pandarens
There are no pandarens. Period
Warcraft 3 ditched too much of the grittyness of warcraft 2. A return to form is needed for warcraft 4, which will sadly never be because blizzard will never regard the canon as set out by this post to be true.
>>340856504
>everything should be as i want it because i said so
Lel you're fucking funny mate
>>340856218
>implying Metzen wont do a self destructive story for Thrall so he can return even more gloriously after going through these trialsThrew up a little
>>340856729I still have hope with future film sequels since they've shown willingness not to copy the plot 1:1
>>340855802
>Knaack's version of WotA.
Dropped.
>>340856148
id never cared that much about the gameplay itself, whe coming to raids, rather than the setting/athmosphere/lore so, no, your argument againsy my statement is wrong
>>340856410
what the fuck are even void lorss?havent played since cata, but i keep hearing about them.
werent void lords those blue, elemental-ish creatures?
>>340857061
Was there even any established lore about WotA before the books tho?
Stop posting lore, at this rate I am liable to resub
>>340857528
Its fine, legion lore is panda-tier shit, so no point of resubbing cos of it anyway
>>340857387
General manual background fluff if I recall correctly.
It was the biggest conflict in Warcraft history with plenty of interesting characters already involved. So crowbarring Knaack's donutseel OCs in through timetravel shenanigans was completly completely unnecessary.
>>340852529
Blizzard JUSTs their own lore. Amazing.
>>340852529
Does this mean that Fire magic is Holy + Fel? and Air is Fel + Necromantic?
>>340858185
Looks more like Holy and Fel are their own separate things inside the bigger whole.
>>340852529
Can someone explain to me why there aren't alternate realities between Reality and Order and Disorder respectively. Also what the bridges mean between Earth and Decay and Sprit and Fire
>>340858185
>>340858272
I don't understand it then. Is Light (and the rest) supposed to be the source, while fire (and the rest) are how it appears in the world? And shouldn't holy be the opposite of Necromantic? after all the undead can't handle the light.
It's cool but I don't get it. It probably would be better as a 3 axis system.
>>340858336
Mage should include water(ice)
Shammies iirc don't use decay
>>340858336
Warrior 4 lyfe, too bad Prot seems to be raped in Legion.
>>340858336
Why are Rogues in the Old Gods section?
>>340858513
It might be that I don't get it either, but Fire and Air are elements which have nothing to do with Holy or Fel.
>>340858336
Rogues should be placed in reality
WoW lore is just dumb.
I hope someday they make it all non-canon and make a W4.
>>340858572
Tenticle daggers bruv
>>340855802
>>340857061
>>340857387
>>340857864
Chronicle retconned Knaack's book anyway
>>340859306
Vanilla and WotLK have great lore
the rest is lore rape tho, i agree
>>340856218
>Green Jesus
its Moses, and reminder that making him weak is anti-semitic
Just take a look at >>340852529
Yeah kabbalah.thrall4life
Elder Scrolls lore shits all over this so called cosmology that is posted above
>>340859569
>vanilla
I guess since it didn't follow a total storyline and mostly created the world and didn't ruin already established characters it was okay
>WotLK
If you take out Arthas death and his shitty redemption I'd be fine with it.
>>340853131
I second this.
Another aye and we decanon WoW.
>>340859707
WoW was the greatest thing to happen to Warcraft.
>>340854875
The deepest lore.
>>340859820
>instead of another good RTS have a shitty Skinner box MMORPG
No.
>>340859820
wow was the greatest thing to happen to blizzards wallet
>>340857245
Pls respond
>>340860106
wtf have they done to ariel
Chronicle says Old Gods serve the Void Lords, what the actual fuck?
>>340860106
I'd crawl on ten miles of broken glass, conquer a country and establish a calendar based on her menstrual cycles just so she could fart on my face.
>>340860106
>those shitty tattoos that resemble nothing
Other than that, would smash.
>>340860106
>>340860796 here
Void Lords are the blue demons, but I guess we've never seen the most powerful ones if they are indeed in control of Old Gods.
>>340861004
Someone said Blue Demon?
>>340860106
is this her audition to suicide squad or something
>>340861004
Sounds retarded, like, literally the most powerful evil race in the universe, could be used as every warlock's bitch
HOL UP
Is Dota canon in warcraft lore?
>>340860796
>>340861004
Void Lords talked about in Chronicles are basically a bigger Old God made out of pure shadow energy and dwell outside of the universe. Only the most powerful of these can actually manifest in the universe, where they have to devour worlds keep up their form. Seeking to devour all creation, they use Old Gods to do their bidding.
>>340861398
Well according to the Chronicle, only the most powerful Void Lords can manifest themselves in reality, so I'd imagine the warlock pet ones are there because they're summoned to serve.
I know it's grasping straws but that's the only way any of it makes any sense to me.
>>340861398
dont listem to him anon >>340861004
we have no idea what exactly the void lords are, no one said that they are those blue things
>>340861604
Why would it be?
>>340861690
Yeah it might be that we've never seen the actual Void Lords. It's just confusing when there are dozens of demons named Void Lord in WoW.
>>340861871
I think its just one Void Lord actually, the one in TBC that fucked the shit up of those ethereals or whatever they were(the mummy looking creatures)
Its prolly another case of blizzard fucking up and forgetting their own creations so now they have the same name
>>340862073
Seems I'm confusing void gods with lords, so yeah only one.
>>340856173
Who's the 6th guardian in the upper left?
Is that Tyr?
>>340861398
They're not the same thing, Blizzard just named them void lords because it sounded edgy and they forgot they already used that name.
who the fuck are the old gods and the void lords?
give me a tldr
>>340863278
DUDE LOVECRAFT CORRUPTION LMAO
>>340863278
Beings of shadow that want to fuck shit up. Void Lords can't go into the universe so they create Old Gods to do it for them.
I liked Pandaria lore..
>>340863278
Old Gods are basically corruption bombs that Void Lords hurl across the universe in hopes of them hitting a world with a titan soul in it.
Azeroth being one of those worlds.
>blizzard lost WoW more than half its playerbase by pandering to casuals instead of the hardcore audience
>soon WoW will be dead and there will never be anymore warcraft lore ever again because the RTS genre is dead
>>340863761
what's the difference between void people and demons
>>340863278
Don't know about the Void Lords, but
OLD GODS 101
A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, a mommy Titan and a daddy Titan loved each other very much, in the missionary position, for the purpose of procreation, and the planet of Azeroth was created to gestate their child until it was fully grown (because Titans are basically Galactus if he went on a diet), and everything was cool for a while.
Then these fucking tentacley-ass space motherfuckers called the Old Gods, who really didn't like the Titans, rolled up to Azeroth and said "oh hey, it's one of those baby spacegodgiants, we could use one of those in our plan to CONQUER THE UNIVERSE" and crash-landed on it and proceeded to ruin everything for everyone. Then the Titans slapped their shit, but the first time they tried, they did it too hard and nearly wrecked Azeroth, so they had to settle for beating them nearly to death and then locking them away. And things were good for a while even though they irreperably ruined Azeroth by doing shit like turning dwarves and gnones fleshy and making Ragnaros go "DUDE GENOCIDE LMAO".
Then they started waking up over the course of WoW lore and making things kinda bad again until you kill them, also Garrosh used the corpse of the only one they killed to power himself up in MoP.
Fuck modern lore, lets discuss comfy stuff
Like, ive always really enjoyed the "small lore", the side quests in some zones that added flavour instead of the general burning legion/lich king/wars/scourge/ etc.
Like the Legend of Stalvan chain, for example
>>340862454
Loken
>>340863801
WoW was always the casual audience. Compare it to other MMOs of the time and it was by far the most casual mmo on the market.
>>340863869
Demons came to life in the Twisting Nether which kind of an in between pocket universe. They're just another corrupting force which can actually manifest physically. Some of them (nathrezim/dreadlords) hung around with Old Gods on a world with a titan soul in it before Sargeras split the world in half, killing the Old Gods and the titan soul.
>>340863869
demons=burning legion(their ultimate goal is actually to fight the void lords)
void lords=different entity, its basically the ultimate evil in wow universe after the latest retcons, old as the universe and its basically manifastation of the chaos countering the order/light
at least thats what i understood from some youtube videos, i havent been playing wow since early cata so i might be wrong
>>340863801
Everquest 1 and 2 are still up and making new content for Norrath. WoW is here to stay for a long time.
>>340863869
Demons are now dindus.
Good boys.
>>340864051
and they made it even easier to the point where even casuals started to hate it.
>>340863887
Im sad that questline got taken to a stupid level with its change. it was one of my favorites.
Quest line with mini lore I really enjoyed was the Redpath questline in the Plaguelands
![gaming-pics-448-850x429[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lXtGudT.jpg "gaming-pics-448-850x429[1].jpg")
Just resubbed, how fucked am I?
>>340856504
>Kil'jaedin forgiving Illidan to appease edgelords
No. Kil'jaedin is not like Archimonde. If someone proves useful Kil'jaedin is willing to give them some leeway to redeem themselves. Kil'jaedin is more strategically inclined than Archimonde was because of the fact he won't throw away a perfectly good tool.
>>340864349
They're not though.
>>340863370
>>340863761
and who are they in relation to the titans? Can they fuck them up?
>>340852529
But the Old Gods were on Azeroth before anybody else. How are they super shadow demons from the void?
>>340864656
Cos the universe is older than azeroth?
>>340855571
what they did to zul'jin was a fucking crime
never again, blizzard
>>340863801
>Hardcore players
>mattering
You're fucking retarded. Wildstar tried to appeal to the Hardcore crowd and that shit's deader than dead.
>b-buh muh nostalrius.....
That was one fucking server, that's why it seemed like a lot of people played at any given time. If that shit was a new MMO today it'd already be fucking dead.
>>340863883
interdasting, thanks
>>340864593
They're basically chaos titans that can't enter the universe themselves. That's why they're hurling Old Gods to try and corrupt a titan-soul-world so they the "Void Titan" can actually fuck shit up.
>>340864593
Fel Sargeras > Void Lords > Titans
Also reminder that Azeroth is a Titan. You may know it by the name ofElune.
>>340864656
>But the Old Gods were on Azeroth before anybody else
Wrong.
>>340864656
Elementals were on Azeroth before Old Gods landed.
>>340864553
They're just fighting the evil guys.
The WoW ending will be all the living races siding together with the Burning Legion to destroy the Void Lords.
And then they'll make WoW 2, in which after 4 years the tenuous pact between the Alliance, the Horde and the Burning Legion has evaporated.
>>340865039
:^)
>>340864840
ahhh gotcha basically a more evil version of the evil titan sargeras?
>Normally play on a WotLK private server
>Think /v/ simply over-exaggerates as usual about how dumbed down it's become in WoD
>Download and make a WoD server
>Play
>Mcfucking Delete
I'm so sorry I didn't listen. Also what the fuck happened to quests having text?
If WoW were to add a third playable faction, what races would be in it and who would they be? If you move races that are currently in the Alliance/Horde, who would replace their slot?
>>340864862
oh so based sargeras can kick void lords ass?
>mfw horde and alliance team up with sargeras
>>340865131
Kinda yeah, just entirely separate. Well not really since Sargeras hopped in train with demons after he saw what the Void Lords can do.
>>340865214
>Also what the fuck happened to quests having text?
Elaborate.
>>340865131
Sargeras isn't evil anymore. :-)
>>340865276
Something like that. He hasn't fought one but he's essentially the only thing that can rival them in power, and he's been shaped up to be their strongest opposition, essentially.
>>340865214
quests don't have texts now? jesus
>>340865276
>A bunch of random adventurers are going to kill one of the most powerful beings in existence
this is the problem with MMOs
>>340852529
just finished movie. forgot the name of the young magi, but which of these orders did he belong to? arcane?
>>340865360
>>340865339
He means that they're only one or two sentences instead of actually well thought out and written.
>>340865039
Nah, Green Jesus will save everybody and be a mary sue as per usual.
>>340852529
Is this official?
That's not how it used to worked.
That's the most boring generic manawheel-like shit every fantasy trope does.
>>340865504
>He means that they're only one or two sentences instead of actually well thought out and written.
Fuck that's bad.
>>340865563
Been official for months, broseidon.
It being generic should have been a huge supporter of its officialness. Look at the company we're discussing here.
>>340865389
>random adventurers equipped with the Doomhammer, the warglaives of Azzinoth, the Ashbringer, etc...
>>340865563
It's official alright, really confusing though.
I think the representation is kinda wonky and doesn't fit with what the actual text after it says.
>>340865348
get outta town! The big bad of warcraft for 20+years is now not so bad? In fact, he may be an ally!?!Q?!
>>340865673
>confusing
how?
it's so simple
>>340865490
khadgar, kirin tor
>>340865830
Yeah. It's shitty but it isn't too surprising anymore since Blizzard can't write for fucking shit.
>>340852529
How come each circle in this chart only gets 3 entries but Void which gets 4?
>Light/Holy/Naaru
>Life/Nature/Wild Gods
>Disorder/Fel/Burning Legion
>Order/Arcane/Titans
>Death/Necromantic/Undead
>Shadow/Shadow(Void)/Void Lords/Old Gods
What the fuck?
>>340865915
It's confusing to me in relation to what the text says after it.
>>340865639
>>340865673
Jesus how stupid.
>Elune not shown, probably god of nature now
>elemental plain of fire somehow linked to Fel
>elemental plain of decay(?)
>arcane and fel on opposite sides of the spectrum
>no mention of the twisting nether at all
>>340865348
>Sargeras isn't evil anymore. :-)
it is ahappening again
IT IS HAPPENING AGAIN
how can people who call themselfes "writers" be so fucking lazy, unimaginative and boring?
fuck every single "writer" who works for blizzard
>>340865980
Read the thread
>>340866038
Elune is Azeroth is a Titan Soul.
>>340865830
>>340865348
>people really believe this
You guys are retarded.
He wants to combat the Void Lords, but his idea of how to do that is to kill everything in existence so that they can't control it.
He's still not a good guy at all. Holy shit stop spouting this nonsense
Will she ever find happiness, /v/?
>>340866074The only time Blizzard had good writers was with Blizzard North, and they had nothing to do with the main staff
>>340866038
>Elune is a Titan
>All Fel energy we've ever seen has appeared fiery, how is this even remotely questionable?
>That's kinda weird but it works
>That was always the case
>The Twisting Nether is part of Reality. It's just the name of space
>>340864741
>>340855571
What happened here?
>>340856504
>every evil character should be a psychotic maniac who kills anyone and has no regard for their value or worth to them!
seems like you're the edgelord kid
>>340866257
Twisting Nether is the 'dimension'/plane/whatever that the Void Lords and demons and whatnot inhabit.
Great Dark Beyond is space.
I thought wow was shitty with MOP but holy shit after reading this thread, I am disgusted.
>>340859569
Mists was top-tier. The only problem was that they kept bringing the faction war into it.
Blizzard's lore and story is at its best when exploring new stuff.
>>340866264
They basically took the most beloved troll hero in the lore and made him angry for some reason so he could act as a raid boss. They then removed said raid in the next expansion, so Zul'Jin was literally reduced to a raid boss that lasted a few months.
>>340866098
>Elune is Azeroth is a Titan Soul
I see the quality of the lore is keeping up with the qulity of the game overall.
Can't Metzen just overdose, please?
>>340866453
He's not writing this shit
>>340858336
priests are the masters of light and shadow
>>340866453
>just overdose already
The writing would of been ten times better if the staff had taken LSD. That's how shit it is now.
>>340857245
Spooky things that live outside reality.
They created the Old Gods and scattered thousands of 'em across the universe in hopes they'd corrupt one of the worlds Titan's are born from.
A corrupted baby Titan could rip open a hole to let them in.
This is why Sargeras wants to blow everything up, to keep that from happening.
Also Azeroth has a baby Titan growing inside it, and this is why the Titans tried to remove or contain the Old Gods.
>>340866418
ZA wasn't removed in Wrath. It was turned into a 5man sure but that was in Cata.
>>340866192
Its my theory that Blizzard has just been telling their writers to copy hollywood for everything.
I swear all the SC2 cinematics seem like bay films. The last blizzard cinematic I liked was the Wrath of the Lich King one where its him talking to his dad because it seemed like an honest human interaction instead of fucking magic and corruption bullshit.
No blizzard, you have the real human interactions so the orcs and shit look cool in comparison, not magical interactions where everyone is a fucking dragon or world shaman and they are sucking your dick for killing a god or some shit.
>>340866257
>All Fel energy we've ever seen has appeared fiery, how is this even remotely questionable?
Because the Elemental Lords have nothing todo with Fel energy or the nether from where it came from. This retcon is fucking retarded, Blizzdrone. Why not toss fire mages in the same boat while we're at it?
But sure
>hurr it's flamey so it's the same!
Reminder that Thrall used to be cool before he was turned into a self insert
>>340865389
>Random Adventurers
Actually the player characters are known as some of the most powerful people on Azeroth.
>>340866609
>Blizzdrone
Nice buzzword, faggot. But it doesn't really hold much weight in a Warcraft lore thread.
Fel is destructive and chaotic, which is why it's connected to fire. Fel even manifests as Fel fire. That's such a logical connection that you have to be deep on the spectrum to not see it.
That doesn't mean that Fire is fel and you know it.
And in what way is it a retcon? They're just displaying the orders in an interesting way, not changing any of the lore in that image.
2/10, I replied but you're still retarded
>>340866795
Not really, he was always a bit of an annoying Mary Sue. Especially during the time he was constantly bitching at Grom
>>340865830
He's basically Space Arthas.
"This entire Universe must be purged"
His goal is to burn down the universe and make a new one that'll keep the Void Lords out.
>>340866074
If you think that's bad, Illidan is now"The Child of Light and Shadow", the one destined to lead the armies of justice in some big final battle or whatever. He's basically SC2 Kerrigan now.
>>340867006
ALL fire is destructive, retard.
Nice how you 100% avoided adressing my point that The Elemental Plains have nothing to do with Fel.
Your only argument is still
>hurr it's fire, it'S destructive!
The source of that fire has always been vastly different for shamans, mages and warlocks. Lumping shamans with warlocks now is stupid and you are a stupid drone that probably started with wrath why needs to validate their still ongoing sub by sucking blizzcock, even if they shit over established world building that deviated from the basic fantasy tropes in at least some aspects.
>>340866418
>Zul'Aman lasted a few months
ok
when did void lords and old gods come into canon? This is the first I'm hearing of them.
>>340867739
Blizzard made a popular MMO called World of Warcraft over a decade ago. Have you ever heard of it?
>>340867502
I'm not avoiding anything. You don't have a point, your only argument is meme arrows, "hurr" and strawman.
No one is saying that shaman, mages and warlocks are the same in any way.
I don't know why you're getting so worked up. Shaman use elemental fire, mages craft fire by heating air and warlocks use fel fire. That hasn't changed. You're sperging out over nothing.
They just laid out the elements in a way that aligned with the magical ordered that they most related to. It's a loose relation but so it air and I don't see you getting worked up over that.
Light
>The Holy Spirit
>Fire gives light / stars / the sun
Fel
>Destructive like fire
>Chaotic like storm wind
Death
>intangible like air
>dead things decay
Void
>darkness decays light
>antimatter/matter
Order
>the titans are made of earth
>water shapes planets
Life
>animals are water-based
>spirits/souls in living things
Yes they're all stretches, but they had to put the elements in there somewhere, and they placed them next to the orders that loosely related.
It changes nothing, it's just a representation and you're a fucking autist and I have no idea why I replied at such length to you
>>340867739
The Chronicle book they came out with. It's supposed to be their "BIG BOOK OF LORE".
It's also got some nice art. Pic related is the first human mages burning the Amani armies during the Troll Wars.
>>340867880
what's an MMO?
>>340868245
What's the easiest way to crop the art off the book?
>>340852529
>warcraft
>lore
>>340866418
Dang. I watched all the trailers recently, the trailer for that raid made it feel like you should be siding with the troll rather than the PC dicks.
Same with the WoD trailer.
>>340867502
>>340868236
>the inevitable pair of children who will obsessively argue with one another until bump limit
An hero, younglings.
>>340868245
The art is really nice, yeah.
Oh look, it's the Winds of Magic. Warcraft still can't shake the fact that it began as Warhammer.
>>340867739
The chronicle, aka "the book that metzen wrote earlier this year that defines everything that is canon and everything that got cut / retconned".
The Void lords are supposed to be those super ultra powerful evil entities from the void, but they cant come to the physical world, so they created and sent some relatively very weak minions called the old gods to try to corrupt the physical world so they can go there.
They are super duper scary, so Sargeras thought it was safer to DESTROY THE UNIVERSE than having to fight them.
>>340868236
>Yes they're all stretches
Pretty much, because the whole thing is shit.
>they had to put the elements in there somewhere
That's the point, the whole wheel design is fucking retarded, that was never how it worked.
They are all stretches and all of them don't really work out, because a simple MTG mana wheel is not hoe magic in Azeroth works, or used to work. Blizzard now forcing this crap which conflicts in so many ways with established lore to the point where they have to wedge in the planes as if they were minor stuff is just stupid.
There was never a need to lay all of this down in one over simplified image and they did a terrible job at trying.
>>340856417
Thank you, those are beautiful.
>>340868631
You say that like it's a bad thing. Using Warhammer as the starting inspiration was probably the best thing Metzen ever did. And the setting is now better than medieval space marines.
>>340868631
Well, Warcraft lore still have only 2 axis.
The "Light / Dark" axis, and the "Chaos (fel) / Order (arcane)" axis.
Technically demons arent dark per se, but chaos. Most choose to embrace dark arts though. But now we have seen a light demon this expansion.
>>340868809
>>340868809
Ok so you're just angry for no reason and I wasted my time.
Should have known
I apparently posted this in the wrong general so here goes again
>Hunter armor you get from boosting has invisible shoulders
How did I not realize this
This is amazing for transmog
>>340868929
>Calling the Stormcast medieval space marines while no one had a problem with medieval chaos space marines that the WoC are
The Stormcast are the result of Sigmar realizing that maybe regular humans were not the best soldiers for fighting meat mountains blessed by dark gods. They make perfect sense within the setting.
>>340864512
>>340866285
>I'll kill you Illidan if you fail me again, I swear on me mum
>Illidan fails again
>WHY WOULD HE KILL ILLIDAN????
He was only pretending :^)
>>340869101
toppest of keks.
Enjoy eating shit for 15 bucks a month friendo.
>>340869104
Wrong general again, kid.
>>340869181
But this looks just like WH40K in medieval setting.
>>340868769
thanks mate, good answer
>>340856504
The warcraft movie is surprisingly brutal. Of course, it isn't a good indicator to gauge the grittiness of future games, but it's something.
>>340869104
And yet you posted in the wrong thread again.
Take those other two children with you when you leave.
>>340869584
That's because it's Stormcast vs Chaos, the two meatiest factions in AoS.
You can still field any army in AoS, too.
When Legion comes, I'm thinking of going full Paladin and crushing some demon skulls. I enjoyed that in BC, so I'm wondering if I'll have fun with it in Legion.
And I'm also an RPfag, so I'll be looking for a wicked sweet Paladin order to join.
>>340869181
man every piece of Warhammer art I see is just a clusterfuck of edge
How do people enjoy this shit?
>>340869840
IAMA Tauren Paladin and a lore nerd AMA
>>340869849
It being over the top ridiculous IS the draw. Some people enjoy camp and cheese more than others.
>>340870050
Why dont Pandaren have paladins yet?
Why did Ra keep the information that the titans died to himself?
Was he just bad at his job or did he just go full despair mode right then and there?
>>340852529
So what is it that makes Reality special or even better than any of the aspected worlds?
>>340869559
>>340869709
Well piss
Oh well
>>340870415
I thought reality referred to the whole universe, not just Azeroth.
Where does "space" fit in there?
>>340868631
Warhammer fantasy was the best. I will never stop being buthurt over GW killing it.
>>340869181
It worked fine up till Nagash started fucking everything.
Also this is what fucktards get for demanding the suits "Advance the plot".
>>340869832
With zero fucking balance.
who /darkspear/ here!?
>>340870594
Reality I think. It basically follows the exact same rules as 40k; the Nether is the Warp, everything else is normal space. The only exceptions are the Dream, Shadowlands, and elemental planes.
>>340853028
This is cool as fuck
>>340866090
I did, doesn't address it at all.
>>340866074
>how can people who call themselfes "writers" be so fucking lazy, unimaginative and boring?
Blizzard and Bioware are two sides of the same coin basically. With Bethesda being the rim.
>>340870786
fuck off trolls get the fuck out of my horde!
>>340870601
The Empire was barely holding the Northmen back even before the events of the end times. Their defeat was inevitable, and the Stormcast are Sigmar's attempt to not make the same mistakes again.
>>340870786
>Darkspear losing their only character of note
>After he was made Warchief and did absolutely fucking nothing
I feel bad for you troll bros.
>>340867283
>He's basically Space Arthas.
He even has a broken sword and killed his mentor. You can't make this shit up.
>>340859939
that's literally hearthstone
>>340870968
Bethesda has some creative and original shit going on under the generic tolkien-esque facade they put in to draw in normies.
>>340871079
its ok he have a way of returning from the deads
>>340864506
>2 months early
Ya blew it moron.
>>340871342
He WAS the mentor.
>>340865389
Nope. We're just going to weaken him so that a major lore character can make the killing blow
>>340870978
I spit on tha horde!
>>340870978
>Enlarged cheekbones
>Enlarged nose
>Different jawline
>Different brows
Now I know you apologists love saying "MUH ROT" but I'm almost certain that corpse decomposing does not INCREASE the size of certain bones. I don't mind if she turns ugly like a horror monster, at least keep the same fucking facial structure as before.
This is like what they did with Kerrigan and Nova in SC2. Completely different faces, bone structure, everything all for the sake of being uglier. Only this time they didn't give her a nice ass. Well they kinda took away Nova's ass and gave it to Kerrigan, but Sylvanas gets nothing.
>>340871383
That's why they are the rim and not the side. Which do you think has the greater surface area?
>>340871847
No I'm talking about Aman'Thul. And he didn't teach Arthas/Ner'zhul shit, that was Kil'jaeden who was in charge of Lich King.
>>340871958
Attractive female characters are misogynistic, obviously.Fuck Silicon Valley's culture
>>340871369
wow still makes more for them tho doesnt it?
>>340872060
Oh, I thought you were referring to Agammar and him.
>>340872125
I just wanted some consistency. Like maybe have half her face rot but the other half still be old Sylvanas or some shit you know? Or just it make mostly the skin that's peeling/decomposing.
Then they just warp her face in a blender like they thought she was supposed to be a Dunmer in Skyrim or something. I mean they do that with guys like Varian too, but the difference is astonishing. With Varian it's more like a caricature, with Sylvanas if I just cropped that face and told WoWfags who haven't kept up to date I doubt they would even know it was from Warcraft.
>>340871913
You have no honor, warlord of nothing!
>>340872946
>lichking's cocksleeve talking big
This is why I need trollinism.
>>340872516
Might be but just imagine how little effort they actually need to put into hearthstone.
The amount of animation, texturing and other stuff that has to go into WoW every patch while hearthstone can judt shit out a blob of cards every few months and people go and shove their money down blizzards throat.
>>340873152
>how little effort they actually need to put into hearthstone.
thats true, it actually fucking ridiculous how much it makes in comparison thinking about it now.
>>340873037
no one takes trolls seriously.
>>340852529
>there are people who actually like this piece of shit
time to die
>>340870978
>>340872125
The real reason they changed her face so drastically was to soften the impact the movie would have when they showed you the Chinese elf.
>>340873772
See ya later.
>>340873772
bye
>>340857061
Knaak wasn't even that bad when you look at the stuff they shit out nowadays
>>340873845
The director said that high elves have different ethnicities. Literally why.
>make the Old GODS into not gods at all, just a bunch of mindless STD bacteria spawned by some gigantic voidwalkers
![1h25RO9[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JLJ9qI8.jpg "1h25RO9[1].jpg")
>>340868631
>>340868631
>Lord of Metal
>>340853028
What Trolls are the best Trolls?
>>340874171
Cause different races aren't enough diversity anon. Gotta spice it up. Like imagine Cho'gall if he was a transexual British Muslim with 3 dicks and 2 cunts. Isn't that progressive?
>>340874316
Wrong anon, you're getting your facts mixed up. The giant voidwalkers are called Void GODS, GODS, not LORDS.
Now these new big bads are Void LORDS, not GODS. You might think the word God would naturally rank higher than Lord, and in 99.99999% of the cases you would be absolutely fucking right, but this isn't one of them.
Plus, I'm pretty sure people in Christianity refer to their God as The Lord as well, which then somehow validates your post and now I'm just as confused.
Alright fuck this shit, Blizzard I don't even have a battle net account can I just give you a pay pal and you send me some shekels? I tried.
>>340870152
Their whole culture is entirely based on the elements and chi. Nothing remotely light-based.
>>340870152
pandas have no soul
Mists was basically filler.
>>340874642
Lore of metal*
>>340870152
Pandaren culture is focused on balance in all things, paladins focus on zeal. The better question is why night elves don't when there's a night elf paladin in the Silver Hand.
I wish we could have this ingame.
>>340875486
>>340875709
But don't the Naaru channel the Light to the "lesser" races? Why couldn't they give it to the Pandaren?
>>340875868
They do in priests.
>>340876031
But priests and paladins both draw from the Light.
>mfw when the movie deleted Med'an
=http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1997496-FAN-EXPANSION-CONCEPT-World-of-Warcraft-The-Dark-Titan
WoW Expansion based inside Sargeras.
Would you play it?
>>340853131
This. I loved Warcraft from the beginning but when they announced it would be an MMORPG I was out. I'd read up on the lore now and then and my god, what the fuck happened?
>>340876307
I just want something that isnt outland
