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He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'
He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'
He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'
He just hacks, wacks, choppin' that meat

Fallout 4 thread. How you liking the DLC?
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There'll be 15 minutes of kissing
Then you'll holler "please don't stop"
There'll be 15 minutes of teasing
And 15 minutes of squeezing
And 15 minutes of blowing my top
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>>340832987
What the fuck were they thinking when they added that song? It just disgusting and doesnt even sound good
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>>340833148

Licensing 50's music is ridiculously expensive. There's a reason the song selection in all the modern Fallouts has been so small.
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>>340833358
I felt like they could've gone up a little further in the decade. Early 60s could've worked.
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>>340833094
>>And 15 minutes of squeezing
>>And 15 minutes of blowing my top
what did he mean by this
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Fuck this game. We don't discuss it here.

Going from Fallout New Vegas to Fallout 4 is one of the biggest drop offs in quality I've ever seen in franchise.
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No weapon holstering, ruined speech checks, bad dialougue system, no Skills or traits (only SPECIAL and perks)

Best map for exploration and best gameplay. Settlements are neat but I'd prefer more actual towns as well.

4/10 "its ok"
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>>340833851
Exactly. 3 was alright. New Vegas took 3, and Improved upon every aspect of it.

Then for Fallout 4 they decided "you know what? Fuck Fallout 3 and fuck Fallout new Vegas, we're just going to make open world CoD!!"
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I prefer the Uninstall Wizard DLC
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>>340833909
I guess the tradeoff of having more visible armorslots was the weapons being removed to view
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How the fuck does the female lawyer character have combat training?
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It's been a long time since I've actively quit a game, fuck this Minecraft quest.
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>>340835042
Oblivion and skyrim managed both

Bethesda has stated that they fucked up the system used to do it and they couldn't figure out how to fix their own fuck-up.

Of course, this is probably just like how it was "impossible" for them to have iron sights in fallout 3
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>>340835346
>fucked up the system

literally how do you fuck up a system where it downloads a world model of the gun either to your hip or your back? Sounds like bullshit like Skyrims lip-sync being impossible to fix and a modder did id couple weeks ago by just changing one bit of code.
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>>340835185
I don't understand why they didn't just make her a cop or something if they absolutely had to give her a non-military background. Why the fuck did she have to be a lawyer?
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>>340835185
Its just a game nerd.
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>>340835185
Could have met her husband in the military. Not all military are active combat. Some of us paralegals and lawyers. There are also paramilitary who serve in that capacity.
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>>340833909
>No weapon holstering

Holy fuck.
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So is anyone else still playing their free version snagged off the Xbox store? I just went offline as soon as I heard about the recall, going to just finish it and claim $10.
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>>340832162
>>340818087
>>340832987
Bethesda shills are worrkin hard today
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>>340835185

Out of all the dumb stuff in F4 this one is the least dumb. Power armor training was just some BS they added to Fallout 3 to keep you from being too powerful early on.
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>>340836028
Even worse when you consider how all the promotional art and some advertisements (wanderer trailer) show it
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>>340836028
Would it even be that hard for them to possible add? Why was it removed anyways?
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>>340836520
It was removed because they're incompetent

Can't wait for elder scrolls 6 where your guy shoves his battle-axe up his ass instead of onto his back
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>>340836221
I think anon's talking about how a lawyer with no prior training could just pick up a gun and mow down like 30 raiders, not the power armor thing.
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>>340836638
>engine limitations
<meanwhile a modder on his free time made every weapon on your favourite list show up on your body
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>>340836690
There's still animations and code for it in the game, they just broke it and couldn't fix it for some reason

Really doubt they'll patch it in either
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>>340832987
Fuck off Todd
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>>340837001
Todd? There's no Todd here, my friend. Just a man who appreciates a good game.
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Doing pretty good on my first run and I just got the power armor too!
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Why was the music so much better and more memorable in New Vegas than 3/4?
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>>340837673
Most of it was reused from Fallout 1/2. Unless you're talking about the radio, then I dunno.
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I've gotten over my anger, and re-approached this game as a Borderlands game. With the right mods it's bearable.

Still a 2/5 though, even without protag's VA.
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>>340837673
TO THE TOWN OF AGUA FRIA RODE A STRANGER ONE FINE DAY
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>>340832987
Fallout for was the quickest I got sick of a fallout game. That includes Tactics.
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>>340833628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm8PJD0zUqM&ab_channel=FonkyB
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>>340836520
a mod has it back in first person. There's another mod for third person but it only had a few models last time I checked like a sniper rifle and pistol
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>>340837810
I fucking hate borderlands

Haven't played FO4 yet so reading this makes me worried
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>>340836662

That makes even less sense. Only one PC in the series had any formal combat training.
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>>340836913
No weapon holstering means you literally don't know what weapon an enemy could be carrying until they turn hostile on you? Am I wrong?
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>>340837810

I'm surprised Silence is Golden isn't as popular as the speech wheel removal mods.
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>>340833358
>being strict on liscening fees for oldies that no one listens to any more on your catalog that have no more pop appeal and are generally only used in period pieces and weird one offs like fallout which are pure marketing for this music which has vastly diminished in commercial value

thank god for More Where That Came From
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>>340838014


Less memes at least.
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Might go back to FO3 or even NV again. That mod that combines the two of them, I forget what it's called but are mods compatible with it? Do you use both FO3 and NV mods? Just one or the other?
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>>340838091
enemies never have their gun holstered and friendly NPCs you decide to murder are almost always pushovers with trash guns anyway
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It's my favorite Borderlands game. Ton of wasted potential with some of the plot points and characters, tons of features that are entirely unecessary. After 6 games Bethesda finally learned how to make combat feels satisfying.

So much went wrong though.
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>>340837673

Because NV music was picked to fit the atmosphere of the game. F3 music was meant to be quirky and make you giggle.
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>>340835185
You do know the military has its own legal arm right?

They go through boot camp / officers training just like every other soldier.
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>>340835185
as if its hard to point and and pull a trigger
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>>340838014
There's vaults, there's aliens, there's sassy robots, there's people with magical telekinetic powers, there's crazed raiders, there are unscrupulous corporations.
It's basically the same thing, really!
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FALLOUT 4
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IS GARBAGE
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anyone know of a mod where i can dress my girl character in a japanese schoolgirl outfit?
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>>340837832
HARDLY SPOKE TO FOLKS AROUND HIM, DIDN'T HAVE TOO MUCH TO SAY
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>>340838621

go ask /fog/
its full of dumb faggots like you
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>>340838721
NO ONE DARED TO ASK HIS BUSINESS NO ONE DARED TO MAKE A SLIP
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Honestly this whole album is great, if you haven't heard it big ironfags you should
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>>340836152
Fucking this,

sega'd and retorted

This game is shit beyond limits. Couldn't bother finishing it, nor ever doing a second character.
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I only pirated Fallout 4 like 2 weeks ago and just uninstalled it today. I actually quite liked Fallout 3 and thought /v/'s criticism of it was vastly overblown (still do), but holy shit Bethesda really outshat themselves on this game. The combat is improved, the workshops are cool and the settlement stuff is kind of great, but then the skills are just outright removed and the new dialog system is the absolute worst thing they couldn've done. I dropped it after reaching Diamond City like 14 hours in and having very little good to say about the game in the end.
Also

>meet a group of random people besieged by raiders
>suddenly power armor and death claws in the first 4 hours
>after clearing a random group of raiders
>DO YOU WANT TO BE THE LEADER OF MINUTEMEN?
>YES
>NO (later)
>even the brotherhood wants you to join them after a single trip together
>generic randomized quests out the ass
>recycled music

WHY TODD?!
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>>340838234
Called TTW and 99% of mods are compactible with it. Just make sure to check the download page if the mod has a specific TTW version
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if i already own the base game, can i pirate the DLC?
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ehh I enjoyed fo4.

you guys are overly critical. just enjoy shit.
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>spent longer pirating it at 200 kbs then actually playing the game
at least I dind't spend money on it
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>>340839870
No thanks, if I enjoy a series I don't expect or appreciate it to suddenly take a massive drop in quality
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>yfw T60
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>>340838163

They need to squeeze as much money out of them as possible, so they charge a lot. When Spielberg or Scorsese comes along looking to do another period piece, they'll pay what ever it costs to get a nice lesser known song.

Then it becomes popular again after people watch the movie/tv show or play the game, and they can make even more money on any sales.

Worked really well for a lot of 60's bands, some of them made more in the nineties than they did when they were touring. All thanks to Forest Gump and Almost Famous, in addition to other movies.
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>>340840312
Licence business is where the money lies
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>>340840312
Did Forest Gump have It Ain't Me?
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>>340840907

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1eBS8avHrg

yup
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>you get power armor and a minigun and fight a deathclaw and get a super powerful rifle and play one of the most unique missions in the game in the first 10 minutes of actual gameplay

I know attention spans are short these days, but holy shit way to blow your load in the first 10 seconds. It wasn't even that good
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>>340840907
nah it had They Point the Cannon at You, Lord
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>>340839870
>I really enjoyed having cancer. Stop being so picky.
Lolno
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>>340841101
From what I know, the power armour being available so early is to signify that it changed it's role from a late-game ultimate armor towards a situational armor that you need to pick up when you go into dangerous areas, such as vastly overpopulated mutant places and that one radioactive place (Dead Sea?).

Always remember though. Fallout 4 has great gameplay, but dummied out RPG elements and story.
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>>340841093
thank goodness
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>>340832987
Everytime I hear that song in the game I remember the episode of South Park that ends with Stan dancing nude in public.
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>>340832987
People actually liked Fallout 3 and 4?
Fucking normies
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>>340841593
>great gameplay
You mean rifles/pistols/smgs which don't feel especially different, the stealth which hasn't changed since FO3, or the arenas of zombies which run at you, or mutants/synths/bandits which all behave in the same way? I guess the drugs were cool.
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>>340841676
I honestly thought I'd be the only one thinking that. lmao
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>>340841593
>get Power Armor early in the game
>every time I find a new suit I just put it in one of the settlements
>literally never used the power armor outside of that moment and the Glowing Sea because you need to refill with a new Cell once every 15 minutes or so
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>>340841858
>Ghouls randomly crawling out of some holes
>can't even plan a good stealth route and taking niggas out in some places because of it
>they just keep coming
>no option to destroy their nests to stop spawning or whatever
>come back after some time and they already respawned after clearing out the whole place
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>>340841930
>spend literally 12 hours grinding out resources and building a dankass settlement with walls and turrets and shit
>spend fucking ages trying to place the walls in the perfect spot since you don't get a birds eye view or grid and have to do it in first person
>it doesn't actually defend the settlement, you have physically visit it for the walls or turrets to actually do shit
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>>340839870
>hey /lit/ I liked this book by John Green stop being so le picky XD
>Hey /mu/ I liked this music by Eminem stop being so le picky XD
>Hey /tv/ I like modern family stop being so le picky XD
>Hey /g/ I like windows 8 stop being so le picky XD

You're a fucking cuck
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>>340842030
infinite quests
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>>340842062
>realize settlers are braindead retards and can't defend their own place
>stop bothering with making walls
>just place a few turrents and go on with my day
>it still doesn't change shit and when anyone attacks settlers ALWAYS lose

>>340842151
Why did ANYONE think that infinite quests are a good idea? Sure, it gives you the feeling of something always happening in the world.

But it also ruins any realism in the game. Oh yeah, just killed like 30 raiders in a camp. Need to go back there again and here we go, 30 raiders again. How did they get here again? Did they just revive? How did 30 raiders jump into this place again in such a short while?

Also infinite quests are here for the price of some actual good side quests with a backstory of some sort and choices.
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>>340842120
He's a cuck because he liked a video game? fuck what are you like 12 years old? get a life you fucking loser
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>>340842865
No, he's a cuck because his wife fucked another man.
Idiot
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>>340842062
>>340842295
>copy a mod and put it in the game
>do a worse job than the modder did
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>there won't be a Fallout 4.5 made by a better company that pays more attention to details and improves on the mechanics in the interest of creating a better RPG experience

Fucking worst feeling.
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>>340842921
And you know this as a fact? Through the use of your fat neckbeard virgin powers i guess.
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>>340832987
Haven't bought it, and likely won't
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>>340843093
Did I upsetti your spaghetti?
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>>340842151
>Skyrim
Radiant quests generally send you some place you've not been already.
>F4
RAIDERS IN THE CORVEGA PLANT FIVE FUCKING TIMES IN A ROW
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>>340843043
>better company

You mean obsidian.
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>>340843227
Or Troika if they still existed
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>>340836028
There is weapon holstering you fucking retard.
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>>340843227
Obsidian does a shitty job at patching bugs, though. They released a fucking GOTY version of the game while the NCR quest line still had a 50% chance of being bugged and non-advanceable. It has so many bugs that an ant hill looks microscopic in comparison
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>>340843354
And whose fault is that?
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>>340843343
No there isn't you fucking retard

When you """ holster """ your gun it just dissapears instead of being HOLSTERED on your back or your hip
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>>340843354
Never saw those bugs.
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>>340832987
Workshop was fucking shit.
Automatron was good but too short.
Far harbour is shit. Only few quests like detective one in the robot vault was saving it.

Honestly, Bethesda should give up the reigns of next fallout to someone else. They fucking suck.
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>>340843110
not even reddit like 4
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>>340843542
Wait so even normies don't like it, then who?
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>>340843354
Bethesda did the bug testing for New Vegas, retard.

Not Obsidian
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JUST
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>>340843495
Bethesda a shit, just go play fo3.
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WE FOUND OUT
All the perks are shit
WE FOUND OUT
All the dialog is shit
WE FOUND OUT
The whole game is shit

Hey anon did you play your copy of Fallout 4 yet?
Well I sure did!
Well, why aren't you playing it?
Todd lied!

Well, what do you know?
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>>340843592
reddit isn't as normie as it gets
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>>340843542
/R/gaming and /R/Fallout are nothing but praisejerks for fallout 4. If you say anything even slightly negative about the game, they downvote you to fuck and back and call you a Witcher 3 shill even if you don't mention Witcher 3
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>>340843657
>Bethesda shit
>Play fo3
Think before you post
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>>340843354
>tfw the only bug I ever had in FNV was when entering one of the casinos and getting instantly in a conversation
>I was just stuck there and the conversation didn't appear but I was stuck with no one moving in the background
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>we will never get a complete new vegas where the entire legion side of everything isn't rushed
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>>340843495
Automatron was only good for the last mission. Exploring the abandoned RobCo facility, reading the terminal entries and seeing the Robobrain development process for yourself and how twisted it was actually felt atmospheric and on part with the better parts of the New Vegas DLC. That's where Fallout is at its best I feel, when you're shuffling through the bones of the old world and seeing all the rot and how it affects the world still centuries after it all went to hell.

Didn't expect to actually enjoy this much anything that actually involved the goddamn Mechanist.
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>>340843727
I think before i fuckt ur mums pussay, bethesda cuckboi!
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>>340843747
The only gamebreaking one outside of a few crashes was getting stuck in a permanent loop conversation with your brain in OWB.
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>>340843725
I've seen a couple of discussions critical of 4 on on /r/rgaming, but /r/fallout is a gigantic circlejerk
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I wish they would include the Enclave, they make every Fallout game better for some reason.
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>>340843654
It's funny cause it was still better than fallout 3 :D
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>>340843909
>see that wiped out faction?
>you can rebuild it

Never ever, eh, Todd.
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>>340843909
Enclave is dead m8. Fo3 included them becuase bethesda is retarded.
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>>340843909
Enclave has been fucked 3 times over , they should be gone for good

Bringing them back would be as retarded as having super mutants in every single fallout game, even ones set on the west coast (nobody would be that retarded haha)
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I still can't believe the first hour of the game, it's so hilariously retarded in so many ways you'd think it was a bioware game.
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>>340843909
West side Enclave got BTFO by the chosen one in Fallout 2
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>>340843940
t. never actually played it

Fuck off
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>>340844023
Bethesda would. With there non canon content like fo3.
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>>340844031
Both 3 and 4 have overlong intros which are meaningless and really irritating making reaplyability shit.
1 hour of exposition for something you already know about the series is pointless.
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>>340844023
>Bringing them back would be as retarded as having super mutants in every single fallout game

not gonna argue with you about consistent lore in a game with talking ghouls

t. pete hines
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>>340844141
Like you have to be a baby and escape the vault or get frozen.
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>>340844023
>3 times over

>Oil rig in fallout 2
>Raven Rock in Fallout 3

what's the third one ?
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>>340840907
Triggered
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>>340844264
Didn't the NCR wipe out the Navarro base in the backstory of New Vegas, which is the reason for why the Remnants' code password is "Remember Navarro" or something along these lines?
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>>340844239
Well yeah all it takes to set up new vegas is a short cutscene then character creation and you're free to leave and go wherever you want.

In fallout 1 all the intro is a cutscene then you fight some rats and leave.

Fallout 3 and 4 have such retarded intros that go on forever and don't add anything to the experience.
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>>340839082
Johnny cash did it better
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>>340844392
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>>340844389
Oh yeah, but the NCR just finished off with the help of BOS those who survived, but yeah I see
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>>340844264
Broken steel
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>>340835185
Military does have a legal division.
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>>340838915
UNTIL A GANG AT GUNPOINT SAID: WE'RE HERE TO TAKE THAT CHIP
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>>340832987
I want to fuck assaultrons
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>>340844264
The bos fucked them after they knew about there plan.
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How does the vault tec dude file your paper work to get you admitted to the vault when he hasn't even made it back to the vault?
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>>340844810
It was pre-planned because vault tech is EVIL and knew the war was coming etc etc
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>>340844810
Why is pre-war America a 50's paradise and not the dystopian hellhole it is in the lore? Bethesda didn't care and expects you to not care either.
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>>340844810

telephone?

>>340844974

Which is especially funny because in the intro video they even mention how fucked up things are at that time. And yet, here they are in their idyllic little hamlet.

Would have been moderately better if the game had started out with you fighting off looters, and desperate people before heading to the vault.
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Why are there more Super Mutants in the east coast than in the west coast
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>>340844974
Wasn't it more of a paradise for the Americans and absolute hell for the Europeans and everyone else? I haven't read the Fallout Bible.
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>>340844964
>>340844810
STOP ASKING QUESTIONS
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>find the Vault-Tec guy after 200 years
>he's still wearing the same fucking outfit, just a bit torn

I want clothes that actually survive for so long
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>>340845129
Nope America was really fucked up and jacked on patriotism to an insane degree also mass riots and food shortage and shit
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>>340845126
Because bethesda a shit.
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>>340845129
Pretty sure it wasn't even for the Americans.They were better off than the rest of the world, but they still had massive resource shortages despite annexing Canada and invading China.
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>>340845129
the whole world was fucked and fighting resource wars
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>>340845223
They also went to war with canada and killed lots of people over there.
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>>340845286
> invading China
I'm pretty sure the only military conflict between chinks and burgers was China invading alaska then them taking it back
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>>340838091
It also means there are no sneaking areas where drawing a gun attracts attention.
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>>340845404
They fought in china, just take a look at the ranger helmet from the survivolist in nv. It says shangai and other places the guy went to fight.
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Dude this just makes me sad, the pre-war environment Black Isles built up made it sound like a fucking apocalypse.

Imagine the opening for Fallout 4 being,

>Sitting in your rocking chair on your Boston home's porch holding a shotgun in the middle of the night
>Get up and check on your family
>They are sound asleep with Codsworth dusting the decaying furniture
>You turn on the television
>News man pretends the situation is fantastic, reports on terrible and devastating stories with a cheery mood
>Then things start to go to shit

FUCK YOU BETHESDA

I really wish Obsidian would be given the license, they know how to write good stories
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>>340845476
Ah yeah, like the casinos in new Vegas
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>>340845404
I'm about 80% sure that they retook Alaska and then invade China
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>>340845619
Chris avellone of Obsidian has said that he does not expect the fallout series to ever leave Bethesda again
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>>340845604
>>340845645
Ah, thx for correcting me

>>340845619
I don't wanna act like an F4IDF, but the man is an ex-military and woman a lawyer, perhaps they were just upper class ?
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>>340835185
Her husband trained her so she could protect herself from niggers.
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>>340845404
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>>340845707
Just fuck my shit up, bro.

Kinda funny and kinda sad that the best news Bethesda can give is that they aren't making the next Fallout.
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China invaded Alaska for the last newly discovered oil reserves in 2066. US invaded China in 2074, then pushed China out of Alaska after Anchorage in early 2077. Then nine months later kaboom, daily reminder Bethesda said aliens did it too.
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>tfw you realize Fallout 5 won't be made by Obsidian
>tfw you realize it will STILL be made on Gamebyro just with a different name on it
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Being completely honest, I kinda miss the Enclave though. They were basically the /pol/ of the Fallout universe and we never got to join their ranks and exterminate the subhumans. Sad really, too bad they all died.
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>>340845803
It's really retarded, isn't it? Bethesda gets to make the 3rd and 4th installments of the series, while the original devs are given one chance to make a side game(more of a true sequel than 3&4) in 18 months, then never again
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>>340845957
I don't quite recognize that gun
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>>340843478
If don't talk to the receptionist in the NCR embassy before you get the Gomora casino mission (by talking to Yes Man or House, you can't finish the NCR questline because some colonel at the hoover dam won't ever engage you in conversation for no reason.
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>>340845957
>tfw all intelligent death claws are deal
>have to relly on the shitty unintelligent ones instread
I don't know anon, they're making real hard for me to like them
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>>340846165
Its the cuckmaster 9000
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>>340846165
Looks fucking neato though.
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>>340846019
>3 was a reboot spinoff
>4 was spinoff
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>>340846197
I'm sorry can you reiterate.
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>>340846330
The enclave killed all the intelligent deathclaws

Sorry about the grammer, I've been awake all night.
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>>340846197
Same with how according to Bethesda all super mutants are retarded

They were only retarded in fallout 1 because they were brainwashed. Otherwise, they should be normal.
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>>340841101
But the point was that power armour needs those batteries to work so you just can't go on a rampage with them?
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>>340846454
Oh, I thought you were talking about how they mind-controlled Deathclaws in Fallout 3.

Yeah that makes sense though, since the Enclave hate everybody with mutated genes they would obviously murder the Deathclaws.
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>>340846529
Even though power armor has batteries that are supposed to work for centuries.
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>>340844974
it was never a hell hole. You're a complete retard.
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>>340846587
Death claws were an enclave experiment.
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>>340846605
Source?
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>>340846620
It was, did you play the original fallout games ?

>>340846665
Pre-war one, they were supposed to replace human soldiers
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>>340846605
Nuclear power m8, just like the cars and radios.
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>>340846665
They were? Holy shit I don't pay attention to well.

Well if that's the case wouldn't the Deathclaws work against the Enclave then? So the Enclave would be forced to kill them?
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>>340846702
Fallout 1's and 2's description of the amor

>>340846754
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>Gaming journalists praised the FO4 dialogue system as a step forward in the right direction

Sometimes I think those journalists will just hype anything because it gets them more money.
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>>340846786
I don't get it, why would the Enclave use mutants as an army against other mutants? Unless they wanted to keep all the pure humans on the Oil Rig or in Raven Rock and just remotely mind-control them?

Does the Enclave's plan make any sense or am I just not getting it?
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>>340846936
>why would the Enclave use mutants

I dunno, shortage of man power ? Plus the pre-war government was about to use them but the bombs hit, so maybe they're just following their ancestors
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>>340846719
Pre war america wasn't a shit hole. The previous games make it look like 1950's america.

>>340846786
The early games never said that power armor remains powered for centuries.
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URANIUM FEVER
I'LL SHOW YOU MY DICK
URANIUM FEVER
IT'LL MAKE YOU SICK
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>>340846936
Pre war goverment created death claws in some vault the enclave went and killed them because they wanted the vault.
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>>340847027
>The first version of power armor successfully deployed in combat was the T-45 model, which originally ran on small energy cells, burning through them at an alarming rate. In response, later versions were manufactured with built-in microfusion packs.
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>>340845782
Has Bethesda ever put this much detail into one of their items?
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>>340847027
>Pre war america wasn't a shit hole. The previous games make it look like 1950's america.

It was an undertone, the sheer number of nationalistic posters does give a creepy dystopian feel to it

>The early games never said that power armor remains powered for centuries.
When you hoover your mouse on the item and check it description it say so
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>>340846931
game """"journalists""""" are no different than people on home shopping channels trying to sell you trash from a catalog.
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Hey seeing as we are discussing the Enclave

Does President Dick Richardson's plan sound feasible at all? I heard it debated a couple times but I am still unsure, plus President Richardson's plan is basically the same as President John Henry Eden's in Fallout 3 but with putting an anti-mutant killing chemical into the water and not the air.

Thoughts?
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>>340847174
back in the morrowind days they did, for their fallout titles? not so much.
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>>340847174
No.
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>>340847287
Because fo3 is a reboot.
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>>340847027
Uhhh, yes it was a shithole. Even if you didn't play any other fallouts, the fucking opening cutscene in 4 tells you it was. I mean they had to invade Canada for resources and killed Canadian citizens.

Thus why it's so jarring that everything is nice and perfect when you actually play in the prewar section
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>>340847287
Because every thing needs water and if you poison the whole water supply makes it easier, the air thing would be harder like chem trails or pesticides
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Is there any actual reason to think Obsidian won't be working on the next Fallout?
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>>340842295

I've had the settlement under attack quests come up and whilst on my way it completes with a message saying they've defended themselves successfully. Probably more of a cop out than anything else.

What I really hate is Hangman's Alley settlement, supposedly in a secure area between buildings with easily defended entry points, but it spawns attacks directly inside the settlement. What is the point?
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>>340847807
They are kill
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>>340847704
>Thus why it's so jarring that everything is nice and perfect when you actually play in the prewar section

I figure it's so well-off since it's housing all the citizens for the nearby Vault and only Vault-Tec want's the best for it's experiments.

Still, there's nothing in the game confirming that.

>>340847807
They've got their own projects to work on.

Avellone left too, but that's not really a bad thing.
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>>340847727
No, mutants don't need food or water

See: kid stuck in a fridge for 200 years in fallout 4.
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I have to say that to their credit Bethesda has decent concept artists. Its just a shame about literally everything else.
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>>340847807
Beth won't allow it.

That's literally the reason. They know Obsidian would make a way better product given less time than they did, so they don't want to risk again.
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>>340847959
Yeah, what's the point of having decent concept artists if they're going to ignore every fucking good thing
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>>340847991
Funny

Bethesda claims they spent over 5 years developing fallout 4, then they go on to say that development Began when they ported skyrim to xbone (less than 3 years)

Whatever amount of time they had, the game they produced is an insane step down from new Vegas and even 3 in almost every way
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>>340847704
It's because that's what america was like. A nice place to live. There's always a shitty war happening somewhere else in the world.
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>>340847991
But NV was critically panned and sold worse than 3.


If anything they're going to find more competent studio to make a spin-off
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>>340848143
Gas yourself
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>>340847174
Yes, but v will never admit it.
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>>340848143
it's not like the industry is fucking corrupt or anything
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>>340848143
Delete this
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>>340848206
>offer logica! reasoning for a question
>death threats
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>>340848098
Looking at the amount of content and filler shit (infinite quests, enemies respawning) I don't think they spent much time developing the game at all.

Also the shitty amount of choices, overally a small amount of quests, some things making no sense, and all. And, I still think the voiced protag was a shit idea but they could make it better even with giving us more than one voice per sex.
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>>340848217
Which item? I genuinely can't think of one.
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>>340847807
- obsidian is already booked for a long time making tyranny and then pillars 2
- zenibeth has opened another studio in canada
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>>340848287
fuck off Anita
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>>340848143
Remenber, NV was scorned so bad they lost money
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>>340833628
he's literally explaining how he'll fuck you
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>>340848287
If it was in response to something that retarded, I deserve a pardon
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>>340848287
>smug anime face
Hang yourself.
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>>340848287
>Quality = popularity

>logical reasoning
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>>340848362
But more popele bought it than 3 I thought?
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>>340848362
By one point. Incidentally, Fallout 4 received the same aggregate score as NV.
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>>340848287
who are you quoting my man
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>>340848331
Was surprised when you see those bathroom scale traps have the word go from 0 to a handwritten DEAD when you step on them
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>>340848483
The PC version which is terrible and has tons of bugs.

The console versions for Fallout 4 are more stable and got higher ratings
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>>340847027
>Pre war america wasn't a shit hole. The previous games make it look like 1950's america.

It's both you retard.

By the time the War occurs in Fallout lore, there's a huge viral breakout in the Mid-West, riots across the country and everyone starts getting panicky.
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>>340848143
NV deserved those scores because of how bad the console versions were. I've never ever played a worse performing game on PS3. They never even should have released it on PS3 if it was going to be so bad that you need to restart the game every 30 minutes.
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>>340848693
Obsidian games are always buggy and terrible. Remember kotor 2?
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>>340848693
I guess that's what you get for playing games on consoles
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>>340848653
It was all fine, though. It's how so many people got into the vaults in time.
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>>340848143
>sold worse than 3.

barely.

f3:
>Electronic Entertainment Design and Research, a market research firm, estimated that the game had sold 12.4 million copies worldwide

fnv:
>Electronic Entertainment Design and Research, a market research firm, estimates that the game has sold 11.6 million copies worldwide
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>>340848653
It's like he can't process the idea that there are areas of hobos out there and pristine lands with elite at the same time.

Lawyer & War Veteran, that probably classes them out of the hobo range.
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>>340848693
consoles
not even once
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>>340848110
Literally go watch the fallout 4 opening cutscene casual

America was never a nice place in the final years before the bombs. Ever since fallout 1/
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>>340848846

To this>>340834038 ?
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>>340848693
But why is it that Bethesda isn't held accountable for this?
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>>340848564
It's full of bugs because Bethesda is incompetent

Obsidian didn't do bug testing for New Vegas, part of their contract was that Bethesda would handle all of that
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>>340848776
>800k copies
>barely
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>>340848763
And the low metacritic score is what Obsidian gets for releasing such a badly performing game on PS3. The patches for the game never even tried to address the PS3 issues in particular, you know. They just cut content in general for all platforms in an attempt to make things more stable. Each platform got the same patches.
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>>340848693
But that's Bethesda's fault. It's their engine.
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>>340848967
Because Oblivion never had the same problems and Skyrim had them to a much lesser degree. You could play Skyrim on PS3 for 40 hours before any slowdowns occurred. In FO:NV, you were looking at drops to 1 FPS within 10 hours of playing the game.
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>>340848836
It's not like that for every game. I truly meant it when I said New Vegas was the worst performing game I've ever played on PS3.
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>>340848901
Do you honestly believe that the Rockefellers, Saudi Royalty, Fords, and other elites around the world have ever wanted for anything no matter how dire it was for the average person?

When they show fights in the streets over bread, and other needs, that's not a who's who of the top class.
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>>340832987
Fallout 4 was terrible. I downloaded it late to the party and I stopped playing at level 14.

I literally just can't be fucked clicking the icon. It's that bad that I'm playing throw DxHR again before the new one comes out.
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