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And they said it would flop
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>>340830178
I really hope they make a sequel. As a Warcraft fan, I watched the entire movie with a giant smile. Really brought the universe to life with Weta's props. So good.
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>>340830706
I really want the WC3 story made into a movie.
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China sure loves saving shitty movies from flopping
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>>340831360
Yeah, even BvS made a shit ton.
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still has a ways to go to break even.
spoilers: studios don't get 100% of the gross.
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>>340831697
Legendary is owned by the Chinese now, so they may take in more from there than your typical studio.
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>>340830178
Dude, you realize they need at least 500 million to break even right? It ain't gonna make that.
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>>340830178
I hope they doing good for future Starcraft and Diablo movies
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>>340830178
Most money was made internationally where it was released 2 fucking weeks ago. 10 million made domestically on an opening weekend despite how much it was shilled through ads. Oh yeah, totally not a flop.
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>>340832573
>500 milion to break even
>for a video game movie
stop pulling form your ass
Both Blizz and Legendary know the risk like hell they throw that much money for marketing.
Hell all human actors are B list.
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>chinese box office will save the movie

studios get roughly 25-30 cents on the dollar from chinese releases and that only in the first two weeks or so before everyone buys the pirated telesync/cine dvd from the market.
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>>340832778
It hasn't even released in my country
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>>340830178
No one said it would flop, they said it would suck and it did.
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>>340830812
I think there is not an actual person in the world who played wc3 and would not jizz his pants over a movie about Arthas' story
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>>340832573
>Production Budget: $160 million
Excuse my naivete, but why 500 million?
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>>340830178
Needed more dorfs.
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>>340830178
>$10 million domestic
>$276 million foreign
someone please explain this to me. aren't burgers the target audience for this movie?
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>>340830178
>Blizzdrones with Stockholm syndrome
>Normalfags that heard WoW being a popular game or something somewhere once so they pretend to be so nerdy by going to watch this
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>>340833643
All movies are made for china these days.
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>>340833392
Marketing budget.
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>10,000,000 opening weekend is good now
this would be floundering without the chinks
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>>340833643
>a movie about Warcraft
>a game that was full of Chinese gold farmers
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>>340832868
This

Video game movies have an extremely bad reputation both in quality and success. There are hardly any good ones that come to mind when discussing them and most are in the "so bad it's good" category. So when you take all that history into consideration it's a very risky move to try and create a video game movie in 2016 and it turned out pretty good
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>>340833797
I don't know how it is in other countries, but in germany and most of europe in general it's been the number 1 in cinemas for at least 2 weeks straight.
That has to be worth something right?
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>>340833145
Didn't*

Fixed that for you
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>>340833764
Oh right. What a waste, haha.
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>>340833392
>Anonymous 06/12/16(Sun)01:32:00 No.340833008▶
Just because it makes 500 million, doesn't mean the studio gets 500 million. They only get half of that and even less over seas. Factor in marketing, foreign and domestic, and contracts for percentage with stars, directors, producers and so forth and you'll start to see why most studios are worry of greenlighting anything original.
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>>340830178
Whomever said that it would flop is a moron.
Movies/games released on pre-existing franchises rarely, if ever; flop, it's why everyone keeps making sequels and reboots constantly. It's easy money.

Predicting whether something is shit, however ultimately has no bearing on whether or not it will be a success financially. Just look at Adam Sandler movies or Fallout 4 and Doom 4.
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>just got done with an exhausting 18 hour long shift manning the PCs that are all bot grinding for gold in WoW to RMT
>take my meager sweatshop paycheck to spend the next 2 hours watching a shitty WoW movie

LIVING THE DREAM
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>>340834423
The problem >>340834423
Think of it this way, the film cost 170 milliion, you'll spend at least the same amount just to market it. So you need to make at least 340 million, but you're only collecting .50 cent for every dollar earned at the theatre. Its viscous and unlike cape films, there is no in movie and marketing tie ins to offset most of the cost.....so yea.
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>>340830178
Are you fuckin dumb?
It didn't even make half of what it cost, that is the fucking definition of a flop you tard.
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>>340830178
it was pretty good, I saw it today

solid 7/10
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>>340832868
You're a joke. You think the studio spent 160 million to make the film only to give it minimal marketing bugdet? Do you really think the studio gets every dollar made at the theatre?
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>>340835441
>potentially 200 mill movie
>ignoring the stupid 500 mil meme when this wasn't advertised past television and Internet forums
>made the 200 mill and more
You have to be a complete retard to believe blizzard and legendary would think they would make upward to 500 million over a franchise that is barely known outside of the MMO and spend 500 million to do so

That is such a retarded fantasy
Legendary
Blizzard
Get real
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Some of my old friends who still play wow and just generally bave vad taste saw the movie and loved it, even though none of them have played wc1
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>>340835441
Lol, dumbass...that's the foreign amount. That total is insane for the length it's been out and hasn't released everywhere yet. You're seriously an idiot.
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>>340833974
European box office matters even less than the Amerifat box office

All studios really give a shit about now are those sweet, sweet, undiscerning China bucks
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>>340830178
No, they said it would be hot garbage.

Which it was.
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>>340836027
>He still believes in Rotten Tomatoes after BvS
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>>340836017
Chinese will literally go see anything as long as some CGI shit flies at them every few minutes, they're somehow even dumber than the lowest common denominator Western audience.
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>>340830178
HAHAHAHA ONLY TEN MILLION?! MY FATHER MAKES THAT KIND OF MONEY A YEAR!
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>>340835775
Actually they didn't spend 500 million. That's just the minimum amount they need to pull globally to break even. They spent 160 million making the movie, you don't invest that much money in a film unless you believe it's going to make half a million dollars or more. Stop being retarded. This isn't your lemonade stand.
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>>340836027
rotten tomatoes is LITERALLY the reddit of movie reviews
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>>340836193
>BvS
>Good
Snydercuck, please.
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>>340833392
Look at what they done on twitch. Fucking alliance and Horde tags for marketing purposes. What a waste of money
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>>340836027
Those reviewers are the real garbage here.
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>>340836674
He's being funny you autist.
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>>340836674
Wow, I can't believe everything is still being racialized in current year.
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>>340836613
Literally the GOAT Batman portrayal and the dawn of capekino. Enjoy your Marvel quip fests.
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>>340830178
It's worth noting that those numbers are the gross. Studios generally net about half of the box office take for the domestic market and 1/3 of the take for the foreign markets.

So, yes, it's flopping. It hasn't made its production budget back yet, let alone its final budget after advertising.
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>>340831360
>Pacific Rim
>not fun
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>>340836807
Poe's law in full swing.
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>>340836674
what a moron
the story is from the 90's
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>>340830178
this movie didn't explain a goddamn thing
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Watched it tonight.
Some of the visual callbacks and references are so fucking spot on. There were moments where I could recognize parts of the landscape because I've been there a million times.

The scale of the world is a bit fucked, but at the same time when they do wide panning landscape shots, the distance between things does seem right.

Every zone is instantly recognizable, and very easy to point out exactly where they are at almost any time.


However, some of the inaccuracies are just atrocious. Dalaran is already a floating city is the biggest one for me. Stormwind is perfectly fine by the end. Blackhand dies too early. Ner'zhul wasn't even mentioned, so I have no idea how they will do the Lich King shit later.

Also the entire movie felt like it was setting up sequel bait. Which we know there is more to the story obviously, but like 90% of the movie felt like they were nudging you saying "Find out more in the sequel"

6/10. It wasn't the worst that could have happened with the movie. But it wasn't the best.
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>>340830178
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/box-office-warcraft-china-1201793569/

>Chinese moviegoers have embraced “Warcraft” with $145 million in its first four days — more than five times the $27 million opening weekend at the U.S. box office.

>The China performance makes “Warcraft” the fastest international film ever to top $135 million (900 million Renminbi) in that market. That figure outpaced last year’s four-day record by “Furious 7,” which finished its run in China with $390 million.

>Legendary was acquired earlier this year by Chinese conglomerate Dalian Wanda.

are you ready for more censorship, shitty CGI. shitty story all for pandering chink?
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>>340836027
The movie is surprisingly
No
Shockingly good
I expect a cheesy movie and got cheesy alliance scene but god tier horde scenes
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>>340833643
Domestic numbers aren't generally released until mid Sunday, and even then the official numbers will come Monday.
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>>340837287
>The movie is surprisingly
>No
>Shockingly good
no it isn't
it is unsurprisingly bad
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>>340837351
This. The only scene I actually enjoyed somewhat was grandpa Gul'dan beating the everliving fuck out of Durotan.
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>>340836193
But, BvS was horrible. If they wanted in on the MCU money, they should have crafted a few better films first.
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>>340837351
Explain.
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>>340836027

Posting RT movie critics to show quality of a movie is like posting a game "journalist" review score of a game.
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>>340833643
Majority of WoW subscribers have always been from China.
I'm kind of surprised they didn't try to launch the expansion along with the movie coming out to get all those people just coming back for something new.
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>>340836418
Do you even know how financing a movie works? I live in LA , they literally have stupid high school classes for this that are easy credits to get less classes the next year and even get more grant money for your first 4 semesters in college

Your stupid fantasy doesn't work like that in real life
They made back the budget and assuming they spent 50 million on advertising they made that back too
This is Warcraft not marvel or DC , legendary didn't invest a fucking thunderbird f22 they invested in a f-16 martin
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Are the Orcs this stupid in the game?
hurr let's keep following guy despite the fact that he clearly doesn't give a shit about our sacred customs and values and the power he wields destroys everything from the inside out, what could go wrong
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>>340837505
boring plot, boring characters, bad acting, and a bastardized story
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>>340837651
>hurr let's keep following guy despite the fact that he clearly doesn't give a shit about our sacred customs and values and the power he wields destroys everything from the inside out, what could go wrong

either you get life nuked by guldan or become more powerful nigga

imagine what an average orc would choose
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>>340837651
Nah, in the original games (i.e. pre-wow) they were just a pack of bloodthirsty niggers with no honor codes at all
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>>340837651
In the game they aren't the "noble savages" they are in the movie.
They are so high on Pitlord jizz that they just wanna murder shit all day everyday
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>>340836193
>bvs
>good

LOL
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>no Ner'zhul
way to kill off any chance for a sequel or WC3 movie
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>>340838017
Ner'zhul exists, he's just not mentioned.

Just like how Sargeras wasn't mentioned but he was heavily implied.
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>>340833643
Oh boy another sniveling yuropeon who blindly attacks the rest of the west as his country burns around him. Yaaaaaawn.
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>>340837641
>they spent only 50 million on marketing
>they've already made back the film budget.
Lol, you're so stupid, theres no way to simplify explaining this shit to you. As if implying that live in LA or even attended school would give you any more validation. Bwahahaha.
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>>340837871
No. They were a bunch of demonworshipping space mongols.
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>>340838168
man you really showed him
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>>340837686
I said explain, not shitpost.
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>>340838221
Please dont pretend to be someone else my kurdslurping friend.
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>>340830178
Movie literally had the exact same problem as BvS

>tried to cram a shitload of info into too little time
>pacing all fucked, editing shit
>both of these mainly due to over half an hour removed that will be inevitably added back in a Director's Cut
>overall still an enjoyable film with solid audience praise that critics took a massive shit on
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>>340838017
He exists as much a Grom Hellscream did, they just didn't bring him up because this movie was bogged down with enough characters / places that they just ignored him for now.
Besides worst case scenario he was just "stuck" in draenor and in WC2 when they re-open the portal he can be the major warlock leading the orcs on that side.
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>>340838230
ok troll
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what was the reason for the guardian's betrayal?
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>>340838190
Whatever you say flyover
Movie did well enough I don't see how retards like you think they expected a marvel sized return when blizzard admitted they aren't fishing for record breaking numbers but to put the name out there and give the Warcraft fans something
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>>340838497
He was literally born with a piece of sargeras, the master of the burning legion inside of him
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>>340838213
go away metzen
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>>340838578
You have people who literally think that the actors are going to get a percentage cut when they aren't even fucking B list celebrities, they're D list at a stretch.
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>>340838697
i guess i wasn't paying attention then because it seemed to have happened for no reason
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>>340838497
Hes possessed by the most powerful "demon" in the universe. He spends his entire life in an inner conflict against this "demon" without actually realizing its there to begin with.

>>340838934
The movie never actually explained it properly
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It was actually much better than the previews and promo sbots made it look. The orc lusting after human cock part is the only bad thing.
It's a nice action flick for non-warcraft fans.
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>>340838934
That was the thing Medivh turned into at the end. It was never actually explained in the movie where it came from which is one of the things that actually bothered me about it
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>>340838578
Right because as a studio who needs a hit after several uderporforming films, Legendary decidea that it was OK for them to make a film just to break even. And Blizzard, the company known to casual is and simplify their games to reach as many gamers as possible only wanted to make this film to please their fans... you're fucking retarded as hell.
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>>340838497
>>340838934
>>340839109
To be fair, that's mostly detail. All you really need to know is that for some reason he was addicted to Fel magic and that turned him into that shit. Could have been done better but it conveyed what we really needed to know.
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>>340830178
I'm a total asshole about thing like this but seriously it did a pretty alright job. I mean believe me it could have been better and some of the story alterations are whatever but I would recommend at least a watch of it if you like Warcraft.
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>>340838497
This along with the petering out of the ending were some of my criticisms. If you didn't know the lore, this would seem like a weird, illogical betrayal. Why was the top wizard corrupted, and not the king or the best knights? Why was he corrupted, but still fucked up that one warparty with the "kill all green orcs" spell? It's no wonder uninitated reviewers were so displeased.

I thought the movie twist to Garona's assassination of Llane was really good. I like it better than the established lore. Also, the funeral at the end & honoring of Lothar felt alot like the award ceremony at the end of Star Wars Ep. 4. They def want sequels, but movie critics just don't want to approve swords-and-sorcery fantasy anymore. I blame the blacks and hispanics.

Fuck those asian faced humans and elves.
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>>340839195
>detail
I don't think such a massive plot point can be counted as a detail.
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>>340839278
a couple of cheap as chips movies underperformed, you act like they've been running 300 million dollar boondoggles over and over again.

Straight outa Compton made them all the money for those films, lets not even mention Jurassic World. If anything Legendary is far more interested in Franchise potential.
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>>340839479
The plot point is good wizard turn bad.

We know he was like "oh shit fel magic, shit" then later on we find out apparantly he's addicted as shit to it. That's all we "need" to know for it to make sense, the details can improve it from just being "okay good wizard is addicted to bad magic and turns bad because of it"
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>>340834101
The delusion is fucking real
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So is Garona back to being half-draneai now?
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>>340839606
sure but the movie explained that someone on their side had to let the orcs in. was he already addicted to fel before he let them in?

besides, anons already explained why it happened and i think that could have easily been explained. what's even more confusing is that it was blatantly foreshadowed that he was going to betray everyone, so it would make sense to expect an explanation but they just brush it off.
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>>340839868
No

She is Medivhs daughter in the movie.
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>>340839939
>>340839606
Didn't Medivh use fel magic on the Orcs?
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>>340836027
i have no doubt RT will rate new Ghostbusters 80/100
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>>340836193
>he liked BvS AND Warcraft
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>>340839939
The implication was that he had encountered it in the past and it was fucking with his head now and while he was zoned out in a fel magic induced trance he invited them in.

And yeah they could possibly have, but consider to explain "oh he has some of this in him" you have to explain, how, why, who the fuck is sargaras? etc.
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I don't care as long the Arthras story line gets adapted and eventually the Lich king.
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>>340839013
>>340839109
>>340839195
>>340839606
>>340839939
>>340840084
I figured it was never explained because Khadgar and Lothar had no fucking clue what posessed Medivh, the same thing that happened in Last Guardian.
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>>340839943
alright I guess I'm just stupid, when was that implied?
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>>340840329
When Medivh had that one-on-one talk with Garona. Told her that story about going to another land and falling in love and all that.
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its not even that bad
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>>340830812
I think they'd have to split Warcraft 3 into two parts. One focused solely on Thrall and Illidan and the other on Arthas.
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>>340840084
i suppose but i think they missed a chance for some character development. they could have taken 5 minutes and shown what happened to him, and a perfect opportunity was after he burned the guy's research.
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The movie was okay, but holy shit the High Elves looked perfect.
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>>340830178
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>no MORE WORK?
>no SOMETHING NEED DOING?
Its trash
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>>340840867
I liked the zugs when the horde took in garona
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>>340840867
I heard ZugZug a few times nigga
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>>340840674
The lady elf had some pretty nice tits
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>>340837240
blackhand never died
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>>340841314
he was killed by orgrim in the original story
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>>340841314
Huh? Who did Ragnar Lofbruk then kill in the duel at the Dark Portal near the end of the film?
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>>340840223
Seriously. Introducing Sargeras and the larger mythos this early would ruin the movie way more than the "felt"-handwave did.
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>>340841862
It was Blackhand.
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Why were there no orc warlocks in the film?
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>>340841314
THERE MUST ALWAYS BE A BLACK HAND
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>>340841879
It's a hard one to time right imo.

I guess it really depends what they do next film, I get the feeling warcraft 2 is where they'll have the most legroom to play around with. I feel like WC3 is probably a bit too big to do, and WoW, well if they even touch the wow story it'll HAVE to be so heavily changed anyway that it doesn't matter.
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>>340841879
They did mention him though. But not by name. Remember when she was talking about coming through the portal where she said she saw a firey face?

Yeah. That's him. Also the fact that Medivh turned into a avatar of Sargaras.
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>>340840617
Hell, just Arthas' story alone would be enough for three movies. You could do a whole trilogy around Arthas.
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>>340837240
>Medhiv casually making awestruck Khadgar hold Atiesh
Yeah, there was some good stuff
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The trailer looked so bad
The fucking spoilers made it seem like the most raped piece of fiction since Game of Thrones

But I saw it.
And I liked it. What the fuck
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The amount of people who actually like the atrocity this movie was is absolutely disgusting. The movie, besides the visuals and a few scenes, was pretty much god awful.

I went into it thinking that it wasn't going to be that good because I knew they were changing the story in a few ways, but I was not ready for all the shit they did and didn't need to do and how retarded it was.
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>>340842564
>first movie: Reign of Chaos, ends with Archimonde destroying Dalaran
>second movie: focuses on Thrall, the Orc Campaigns and them fighting the Legion with tidbids of Arthas
>third movie: whole of Frozen Throne
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As a person whos never played wow or any of the warcraft games I found the movie to be really confusing

If the green orcs are infused with the fel why do they still have free will, why are some of the orcs still brown?

I know the blue things are one of the playable races but what was the deal with them? Are they noble savages like the orcs, were they at war? Is the orc world like on another planet or is it like another dimension?

Who is gul'dan what are his motivations? Are there other orcs that are evil as him? How did he come to power.

Who are the other named orcs what are their deal? Its annoying that the movie assumed that you knew who they were and what they were about infact the movie did that a fucking ton and it really made the movie grating to me

I really enjoyed the action and the visuals were fantastic it just sucked that the human actors were kind of terrible and the script was just straight up terrible.

It also sucked that the most compelling story bits belonged to the orcs but that was also the less fleshed out dual plot line, kind of felt like they expected you to fill in the blanks there.

Id give it a 4/10 overall I think if they make a sequel it will be better, how much does it really deviate from the original story?
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>>340842843
Okay explain how it was god awful.

And remember, when you give points, give examples, I expect at least 2 or 3 in each of your points.

>inb4 'i dont have the effort to argue'
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>>340842953
Oh I totally do have the effort
but I am still a totally lazy person I won't lie about that.
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>>340830178
http://moviepilot.com/posts/2448407
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>>340843027
So I'm not going to consider your opinion valid. Sorry about that.

Movie was gr8
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>>340842879
>third movie: whole of Frozen Throne
>Garithos on the big screen
Shit is gonna be golden
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>>340843153
Well I am still mulling over if I really want to write a huge wall of text just to say your opinion is obviously shit.

Remember, I am a pretty lazy guy and ironically its really late here and I still had the genius idea of putting what I said on this board when I know someone would question me about it
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>>340842917
also the subplot with garona was fucking bad and seemed meaningless in the greater scheme of things.

Is she like a huge character moving forward in the story didnt seem like she served a purpose other than to have there be a romance plot in the film
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>>340833658
>Billions of fucking Chinese
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>been playing WoW since BC
>always trying to read the wiki to catch up on what I missed
>mfw every year I try to go back and play the first 3 warcraft games
>can't into RTS games at all
>always struggle with the camera and movement
FUCK
I hate the edge screen scrolling shit so much.
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>>340842917
As someone who hasn't watched the movie, but has played the games I'll confusingly answer these questions.

>If the green orcs are infused with the fel why do they still have free will, why are some of the orcs still brown?
It takes a lot of fel energy to completely enthrall complex creatures like humans, orcs, or dwarves. Green orcs aren't completely drained of their original personality, the fel just enhances their blood lust and makes them more aggressive.

>I know the blue things are one of the playable races but what was the deal with them? Are they noble savages like the orcs, were they at war? Is the orc world like on another planet or is it like another dimension?
I assume you're talking about Draenei. They're essentially the humans of Draenor which is the planet the Orcs and Ogres come from. Draenei are righteous, holy, and had a pretty advanced civilization that got fucked by the Orcs.

>Who is gul'dan what are his motivations? Are there other orcs that are evil as him? How did he come to power.
Gul'Dan is essentially a puppet of Sargeras. He's an orc wizard that managed to contact some pretty powerful demons who made him into a warlock. There are other orcs that are as evil as him, but he's the head evil orc.

>Who are the other named orcs what are their deal? Its annoying that the movie assumed that you knew who they were and what they were about infact the movie did that a fucking ton and it really made the movie grating to me
Dunno, but I would assume you're talking about Orgrim, Blackhand, and uhh Garona? They're members of the Blackrock Clan aside from Garona who is a weird half draenei, half orc experiment. Most of the other named orcs are probably Frostwolf clan members who are friends of Durotan.

>Id give it a 4/10 overall I think if they make a sequel it will be better, how much does it really deviate from the original story?
Couldn't tell you.
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>>340830178

>$276,900,000

Holy fuck.
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>>340842917
>If the green orcs are infused with the fel why do they still have free will, why are some of the orcs still brown?

if guldan infusing thrall with the fel magic is to be sufficed, it really doesnt do much but just make you green i guess, with a few other side effects. medivh is a special case.

>I know the blue things are one of the playable races but what was the deal with them? Are they noble savages like the orcs, were they at war? Is the orc world like on another planet or is it like another dimension?

it doesn't really matter in a long run, why are you asking this when it's clearly irrelevant to the movie?

>Who is gul'dan what are his motivations? Are there other orcs that are evil as him? How did he come to power.

how he came to power is clearly irrelevant to the movie as well. however, his motivations are left up to interpretation if you dont know about warcraft lore, but if we are to use the movie as basis

"For the horde"

>Who are the other named orcs what are their deal? Its annoying that the movie assumed that you knew who they were and what they were about infact the movie did that a fucking ton and it really made the movie grating to me

dont have a copy of the movie but i never really considered that. ill watch it again some time.
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>>340839983
When you say rate do you mean that 80% of critics will have a positive review, or that the average score will be 8/10?
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>>340843216
Can't wait for Racist Garithos memes
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>>340843754
also, forgot to answer a part to the 2nd question.

orc world is another planet. but it really doesn't matter.

heres a tip: worldbuilding doesn't matter in film. it only matters when it helps the themes, ideas and story it's trying to tell.
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>>340843661
the movie heavily implied she was half hooman half orc.

Who is Sargeras?
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>>340843949
>heres a tip: worldbuilding doesn't matter in film. it only matters when it helps the themes, ideas and story it's trying to tell.

youre a fucking moron if you believe that. And responding to your previous post, those questions are relevant to the film because just having major scenes for glorified fan service muddies up the movie and takes the viewer out of the experience.
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>>340844002
not him

>half hooman half orc

she is, in the movie at least.

>Sargeras

big demonic space baddie who will fuck you up, even fucks up guldan.
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>>340843661
Correcting >They're essentially the humans of Draenor which is the planet the Orcs and Ogres come from.

Draenei are aliens that landed on the orc's homeworld for a few generation pitstop
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>>340844078
>big demonic space baddie who will fuck you up, even fucks up guldan.

thats cool so fel magic is demon magic? Wish that was in the movie =/
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>>340842917
>how much does it really deviate from the original story?
A ton, if you're really interested you can read "Rise of the Horde"(2006) & "The Last Guardian"(2002) for the actual story.
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>>340844002
In Warcraft 1 she was Human/Orc, it wasn't until Warcraft 3 that they retconned her because it didn't really make sense for her to be Human/Orc and to have been born on Draenor where there are no humans.

Sargeras is essentially the Satan of Warcraft. He's a giant fucking space demon that floats from planet to planet corrupting the shit out of them. His physical form can only move so fast, so like 99% of his interactions with the world of Warcraft are done through other characters like Medivh or Gul'Dan.
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>>340843216
>tfw you just might live to see "Glad you could make it, Uther..." on the big screen
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>>340843754
>it doesn't really matter in a long run, why are you asking this when it's clearly irrelevant to the movie?

you're stupid as fuck dude
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>>340844218
this
they should've just done those two books as movies
then continue with the story of warcraft 2 and make a lord of the clans movie
instead we get this warcraft movie that has nothing in common with the story of warcraft
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>>340844218
is the writing as bad as the movie writing? Why cant I just play the games to get the story
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>>340844070
>youre a fucking moron if you believe that

How so? Movies like 2001 and Stalker do fine with only minimal world building. With movies like Mad Max: Fury Road does some more subtle and clever world building, but still doesn't bother the enjoyment of the amazing action scenes.

>those questions are relevant to the film because just having major scenes for glorified fan service muddies up the movie and takes the viewer out of the experience.

Major scenes for glorified fan service such us what?

>>340844205
Sargeras is a "mastermind behind the scenes" type of the guy. Don't worry, just wait until they get to the Arthas story line, where the cool things actually happen.

>>340844340
>you're stupid as fuck dude

Okay tell me, how does knowing the dranaei affect the movies storyline?
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>>340844338
Glad you could bake it, Uther
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>>340843794
Not that Anon, BUT BOTH OF COURSE.
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>>340836923
who are you quoting?
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>>340830178
>And they said it would flop
Literally no one
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>>340844205
>thats cool so fel magic is demon magic? Wish that was in the movie =/
It's a bit early in the story to go all out with the demon stuff, they didn't get directly involved until Warcraft III and the movie was telling the story of the first Warcraft game.
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>>340830178
i mean its no avengers with >1bil at box office
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>>340844416
Warcraft 1 was released 1994 and Blizzard had this stroke of genius to not include the story in the actual game and just write it all down in the game manual.

Warcraft 2 & 3 actually does have the story in them though.
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>Watched it expecting a cringefest
>It was surprisingly okay

I mean it wasn't amazing, but it was at least as good as whatever capeshit movie is coming out in any given month.
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>>340836674
>Horde is a prideful term in Warcraft
>OH. MY. GOD. They LITERALLY call them the horde

Seriously this is like the tenth movie I've seen called pro trump propaganda and all of them would have been in production far before he was a political candidate. You would think a movie reviewer would know SOMETHING about how long it takes to make a movie.
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>>340844675
I feel ya. I like the way they demonstrated the language barrier, and the mak'gora between durotan and guk'dan was cool, but it overall suffered from some pacing problems.
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>>340837265
It really fucking bothers me how China is slowing taking over all these aspects of America.
I went and saw the Turtles movie with some friends, and I was actually shocked that the opening credits had not one, but TWO chinese production companies. One was something China with a panda and bamboo trees everywhere, the other was fucking Alibaba Productions.
Alibaba Productions.
Aren't they a shitty Chinese Amazon???
Since when was chink amazon big enough to be a movie company now????

I know there are a fucking billion+ people in China, but it's really scary how /big/ they are now.
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>>340844830
>I know there are a fucking billion+ people in China, but it's really scary how /big/ they are now.

and they're the same civilization that was built a billion years ago

scary huh
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>>340844781
Apparently 40 minutes of it were cut for the Cinematic release. I think the pacing would be much better with that included. Here's hoping for a Directors Cut.

I REALLY liked the way they handled spellcasting though. It looked fucking fantastic.
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>>340844830
This is what happens when American exceptionalism is demonized.
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>>340844830
was the movie any good?
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>>340844923
If you really like the new turtles, I guess.
Still like the original 80's-90's ones better.
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>>340844879
>I REALLY liked the way they handled spellcasting though. It looked fucking fantastic.
This movie probably had the best spellcasting I've ever seen in a movie. I hope this becomes more widespread.
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>>340845219
>>340844879
What's so special about magic in this?
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>>340838578
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>>340835775
How do you retards not understand that a film studio doesn't get 100% of the cash the film makes? To simplify it for you, theaters take about 50% so if a movie makes 200 million dollars, the studio only gets about 100 million.

A production budget of 160 million plus a marketing budget estimated to be about 100 million means this movie has to make over 500 million to break even.
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>>340844205
It really comes from Tolkien, who referred to dark powers as "fell." I'd guess that's referencing "fallen," in the sense of Lucifer from Paradise Lost.
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I really don't know how they'll handle Warcraft 3. It can't fit into one movie, it just can't without being 4 hours long.

I think they'll be making more than 3 sequels.

>>340845295
It's fucking great mate. Detailed, sparkly, etc..

You have to see it to believe it.
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>>340845295
Sparkly, magic shit flying everywhere.

Looked like they were actually doing something, not just screaming magic words and shit happens.
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>>340845295
they did neato things like write spells on the floor that came to life
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>>340845310
How do you not understand the difference between Revenue and Profit? Typically whichever party is funding a project stipulates in the contract that any revenue up to their total funding goes to them, with net profit split between relevant parties.
If I fund a movie for $100m and it earns $100m, I get all my money back. In this case, the movie has earned more than its budget, and the funding came from Blizzard. the Studio that made it was not spending its own money.
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I liked how there were a bunch of references in the movie just in the background, like gnolls, murlocs, summon stones. Shit like that.

Also, i nearly came when they showed a money shot with Grom, Kilrog, Kargath, Ogrim and Durotan.
I think Blackhand was there too.
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>they didn't use the classic WC3 home teleport sound effect
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>>340845718
>How do you not understand the difference between Revenue and Profit?

You're the only who doesn't understand. The 50% they get is the revenue.

>If I fund a movie for $100m and it earns $100m, I get all my money back

No you don't. You get roughly $50m back. The other $50m goes to the theaters. The hands that $50m goes through isn't important in understanding this.
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>>340832573
>>340833764
Source?
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>>340843216
>He gets rectoned out of existance because he's offensive
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>>340846679
lemme try to type it

MWOOOOOOOM

WOOSH WOOSH WOOSH WOOSH
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>>340847878
>He gets rectoned
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>>340844517
He means China saved Pacific rim from being a flop and that film was fun
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