What is it about class based shooters and everyone wanting to pick snipers? Tf2 had the same fucking problem.
>>340827942
OOOOOOOH 1 SHOT 1 KILLLLLLL
>>340827942
I can see why people want to snipe. Its a safe class and you get to keep trying even if you suck and miss.
Call of duty.
I always insta-pick Widow
Hoping that someone won't try to go double widow.
90% it works and as soon is everyone is out the door I switch
>>340828142
holy shit! This is fucking genius
Because casuals think they are hardcore when they get a 3 killstreak as a sniperGood job, you vaguely succeeded as a low-skill class
>>340827942
people like to camp senpai
i personally like run and gun
MUH KD
MUH EBIN 1 SHOT
sniperfags are cancer
>>340828581
half the heroes are cancer
only mildly decent ones are those that force you into close range
>>340827942
>>340828545
>>340828581
I stay in the group and even go ahead instead of camping as Widow. I can atleast aim while moving around unlike most people.
Once went a whole match with 1 HP and carried the time into a win with Widow.
People need to git gud
>>340827942
Snipers are cool.
All Children love Snipers.
>>340827942
>Widowfags/Hanzofags who do nothing but pad their spread and never get on the point
UNINSTALL THE FUCKING GAME
>>340828142
The problem is that the typical windowlicker won't care if there's already one picked.
because it is effectively the least punishing style of play when you do it wrong also its hard to beat when you do it right
>>340828689
thats normally how i try and use Widow. in her auto rifle mode.
>>340828758
There is a simple solution
>2 widows
>leave game
>>340829169
I tend to bounce out of those games often. If I see 2 of the same and no one communicates, I'm out.
>>340827942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DYDFhP1XLE
*Wookie sounds intensify*
>someone picks widow
>they can't headshot but they can bodyshot well enough
>They always shoot people I'm fighting and manage to save me a few times when I get ambushed
>say thanks
>they say hello
Wish it happened more, but it's nice when it does
>>340827942
Moving and shooting is hard, so the particularly autistic mouthbreathers pick the class that only has to do one of the two.
>>340829859
I don't see anyone talking about Lucio here
>>340829138
literally play soldier 76 you widowshit
>>340829991
>not being the wild skating aerial assault man
Lucio actually has the potential for higher skilled play. Widowmaker does not.
Back when I still didn't have internets and my friends at school were talking about how cool Quake and Team Fortress were online I was imagining how I wanted to play a sniper and be like a stealthy pssh nothing personnel kid
Then when I finally got to try it I realized how utterly boring it was and never touched snipers again
>>340827942
I play Battlefield and long distance snipers are my bane. I think it has to do with a mentality that you are providing some sort of extremely helpful support by staying way back on the map. That and the fuckers that care more about k/d than winning. It's fucking retarded cause even within battlefield there are game modes u can play if all u care about is k/d. Just play death match u fuck. Don't shit up out Rush game with your faggotry. Don't even get me started on UCAV subhumans.
>>340830212
His damage is shit though so you're just going to be a nuisance.
why is Zenyatta a thing?
>>340830301
That is pretty much the infiltrator in planetside 2.
Pretty fun class if you ask me, specially when the game wasn't shit and you could break into enemy bases far behind the lines and play MGS with real people.
>>340830541
He went from the most powerful hero in the early beta to the worst hero on release
>>340830598
>blizzard tries balances between two different styles of play and manages to ruin both of them
Everytime.
I liked snipers in Battlefield, they could be called out by team mates and easily mowed down by heavy support like real life.
Sniper in Overwatch and TF2 could be removed and would change nothing to the game.
The main problem is somebody with exceptional aiming ability on a mouse is like borderline cheating and impossible to balance.
>>340831047
The problem is that snipers are necessary in games like this because you need something to counter the unkillable close to medium range combos that communicate.
>Play Sniper in TF2
>Play perfectly fine, able to get head shots and deal some body shots
>Play Widowmaker in Overwatch
>Fire shots
>Can't hit anyone, let alone manage a headshot
What fucking sorcery is this shit? Anyone else have this problem?
>>340831324
snipers aren't necessary
everything in TF2 and Overwatch can be killed in close to medium range
>>340831430
Maybe you've had a stroke in between then and now. Widow's rifle charges stupidly fast and can make two shots per second.
>>340831472
>everything in TF2 and Overwatch can be killed in close to medium range
Heavy medic combo with a pyro that airblasts shit away in an open map. Unaccountable if they play correctly.
A Bastion with a team
>>340831430
Aiming in overwatch is different and a little hard to adjust to. That and your sensitivities and settings might be different.
>>340830371
>what is aiming
Lucio has pretty decent damage desu
>>340831763
bastion can be killed by a tracer, I think even with Torbjorns armor but Im not sure
too bad defense spawn is 3 feet away and the rest of the team should be alive lmao
>>340831954
>Lucio has pretty decent damage desu
>>340831763
>Heavy+Medic and pyro
get a Soldier and a pyro that can airblast rockets back at the pyro, backstab the medic
>Bastion with team
ultimates
>>340828734
But hanzo was made to be an up close damage dealer... Why would anyone stay back??
>>340832014
>team communicates and kills the spy
>enemy pyro is instantly shreaded by the heavy
>ally pyro isn't a retard and doesn't blast the rockets back at the other pyro
>soldier kills himself trying to rocket jump away
GGI know it's a vacuum scenario but you really can't easilly counter heavy medic combo
>ultimates
>have to rely on one or more ultimates just to kill one player instead of having a simple counter to the hero
>>340831834
Yeah, it seems that aiming may be a bit of a hassle to deal with in comparison. Then again, I'm so accustomed to TF2, that the differences can be a bit disorienting.
Like why the fuck do turrets have such a long amount of range in Overwatch?
>>340832304
>Like why the fuck do turrets have such a long amount of range in Overwatch?
Because everything in this game has long ass range, that and turrets are really awful otherwise.
They're the reverse of the engineers sentry in everyway.
>>340830709
And this is what is going to kill the game. Blizzard's inability to balance anything correctly.
The game was literally DOA.
>>340832279
Junkrat the bastion then, most places have a spot where Bastion can be hit by a junkrat without the junkrat being noticed
>>340832005
you'd realise if you could fucking play
>>340832203
>Long range sniper designed to set up ambushes and prevent flanking with vision.
>An up close damage dealer.
Ok.
>>340832005
as long as you stay at range and dont aim like a consolefag lucio can easily take down light heroes and help chip down tanks.
>>340832801
>>340832825
And his damage is still shit and hes just a nuissance. You don't play aggressive lucio.
Where my Tracer bros at?
I just had a guy throw that I was Tracer when we lost, even though I was sitting at gold for eliminations and silver for objective kills. We were attacking, which means eliminations are pretty much what we needed the most of.
People in this game are such idiots sometimes.
I wouldn't be as assmad if they made it so it takes skill to snipe. Widow does retarded amounts of damage, whether headshot or bodyshot, and she can rapidfire like it's a fucking SMG. This encourages shitters to just bodyshot to kill people, which is annoying as shit. Hanzo is a spam class for people who can't aim at all. The reflect is an instakill for almost any hero, his ult is skilless and annoying, and he gets wallhacks for free.
>>340832960
>>340832960
Nah you're just a failure. Aggressive Lucio is top of the skill ceiling and you're clearly at the bottom.
>>340832824
Am I the only one that plays him mid to close range then?
>>340833125
>>340833125
Widow only kills morons more than once. Learn to scan the elevated perches as you move around the map when snipers are present and increase your situational awareness.
>>340833023
Yeah it's a pain in the ass. The scoreboard needs to tell people who is playing well so they don't fucking bitch about nothing.
>>340832960
And yet here I am getting 12 killstreaks as Lucio on Gibraltar. just because its harder than hanzo spam doesn't make it impossible.
>>340833168
Nope, it's the reason I pick Hanzo instead of Widow when our team needs a sniper.
>>340833245
That would be a great idea if every map weren't one giant chokepoint.
>>340833023
>>340833023
No you're the fucking idiot here. Your kills don't mean shit if you don't get the OBJECTIVE. Go play DEATH MATCH you fucking moron. You're one of those idiots who probably runs around the points without ever touching it.
>Tfw you have a team that is so awful that 4 is gold eliminations
Have you ever had this happen?
>>340832005
Hit your shots he fucking tears through people while simultaneously healing himself.
>>340833347
They're not... That's why you suck. Learn to FLANK you idiot. This game has THE WORST PLAYER BASE I have ever seen. Worse than fucking Minecraft! You're all so damn stupid.
>>340827942
Consider the following.
You are OP.
I am calling you a faggot.
However, I'm anonymous, so you have no idea whether I'll still be in the thread or not so you can call me back a faggot. But you cannot be uncalled a faggot.
This is the sniper experience: being offensive with minimal fear of repercussions.
>>340833467
I've had gold with one elimination.
This matchmaking is pretty shitty.
>>340833467
>Saucekay
Explain this name
>>340833467
>get 2 kills early on
>minutes pass, I am up to 3 kills
>still gold
Fucking hell man, I am pretty bad but that is on a whole new level.
>>340833393
Lol so salty. I'm getting the impression you have no idea how to play this game. I'd go as far to say you've probably had it for maybe a day. An entire team grouped on the objective is just asking for a team wipe, you fucking scrub. Tracers sole purpose is to disrupt and harass. Sitting on the objective while turrets and rockets hit us as we truck along helps nobody. You need people out there fighting, hitting turrets, and ambushing snipers.
Don't worry though dude, you'll get the hang of the game at some point.
>>340833495
Yeah yeah everyone is bad but you. Just flank the sniper with a grappling hook, enemy-detecting mine, and wallhacks that is firing down a long corridor from a perch that few characters can reach.
>>340833687
>>340833687
>This is how stupid Tracer mains are
>>340833730
If you do a proper flank the hook is useless unless they run away which means they're not killing your team... The mines are easy as fuck to avoid... Wallhack doesn't last long and is obvious as fuck.
GIT GUD
>>340833687
>salty
The true sign of a casual retard.
>>340833765
>I have no counter argument, so I'm just going to post a picture and green text
People like you are my favorite. When all 6 of you like-minded idiots group on the objective and I just stick one of you, its like music to my ears when I hear that triple kill.
>>340833846
Even if what you said is true and you did manage to easilly make it past the enemy team, you still had to do a shit ton of work just to deny her from stomping your team.
>>340832005
Dude I dunno if you got everyone rused or what but congrats. I'm a Mercy main and even I can't deny that Lucio's got some solid damage when you can hit.
I can't aim for shit though so at best I can only pop shots and duck right back into cover but that's still one more distraction your ass has got to deal with while I'm simultaneously healing my group, who's coming to get in that assright now.
>>340833846
>the hook is useless unless they run away which means they're not killing your team
They hook away, kill you from out of reach with assistance from their team, then stroll back to their sniping position.
>The mines are easy as fuck to avoid
They also notify the Widow when they are destroyed, which you will have to do as you are trying to walk past them through one of two corridors that the map has (while she fires down the other one).
>Wallhack doesn't last long and is obvious as fuck.
Completely wrong on both counts.
Are we playing the same game or are you just at zero MMR?
>>340833952
Everything you said was completely stupid. Did I ever say "the whole team" no I didn't. You're a fucking retard. You ramble on about basic ass common sense bullshit that doesn't have any specific message beyond doing what the situation calls for as you should always do... You're stupid as fuck.
>>340833393
>kills don't mean shit
Kills are part of the game. If people weren't getting kills, holding the objective is that much harder. You need people on attack mode. How new are you?
>>340834079
>Yeah I was stomping this one guy at their spawn
>yeah I mean they still won the game though because they just ignored me
>>340834059
Jesus how stupid are you? The original argument I made was that I was leading the team in eliminations when we were on attack. Sitting on the objective as Tracer is the last thing you want to do. Learn how to play the fucking game. I've yet to hear any logical counter argument from you.
>>340833976
What I said IS TRUE only you have to be good to pull it off and you suck so you can't do it therefore think it's invalid like a retard.
>>340834036
More retarded situational bullshit that is negated by skill... You don't take obvious paths that are guarded.... You don't let targets YOU FLANK get the upper hand unless you can't aim.... Wallhack is overrated and only sacred the casuals. Learn to move and aim faster. Situational awareness, reaction time and knowing the maps invalidates all of your bullshit.
GIT GUD
I only pick Widow if I feel like we have all of our other bases covered, and I'm feeling frisky. Sometimes it doesn't go well and I switch off after one ultimate. Other times I get gold in eliminations and damage dealt and it's great.
>>340834173
>Yea haha i was just playing defense and killed no one so no one ever died and we lost ahahahahah
>But kills don't matter
>>340834259
>I've played enough pub games to know what I'm talking about
>>340834079
Why are you misquoting me? You're so stupid you can't even copy and paste then use that as your new straw man argument. WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID?
>>340828142
Problem is that a good widow is game winning. Except for on KOTH. Fuck people that play Widow on KOTH.
>>340830561
>aiming carefully for a long range headshot on moving infantry, compensating perfectly for bullet drop and muzzle velocity for a target 400 meters away from you
>shoot
>watch the bullet travel slowly towards enemy
>hitmarker
>100 exp
>feel like the best tacticoolest guy in Auraxis
Man, even if the cert gains are poor as infiltrator, I just cant stop playing long range sniper, oddly Im shit at traditional fast paced sniping on most games yet manage to have a decent accuracy as an infiltrator.
Why is this kind of sniping so rare?, feels great to hit those long range shots compared to quick scoping
>>340833765
Ikr, just because you main the easier DPS Genji doesn't give you credibility to talk shit.
>>340833952 MLG Tracer
>RMB RMB
>Q
>E
>>Skilled Genjis
>LMB
>Q
>Actual flanking
>>340834347
Misquoting you? That's literally what you said. Holy fuck, am I being trolled right now? Literally kill yourself.
To be fair, Widow is incredibly powerful and probably broken in Overwatch.
She also happens to be extremely easy to use thanks to the shit tick rate, enormous headshot hitboxes and low charge time on her rifle.
>>340834404
>>340834404
>seriously responding to an obvious bait post
SURE IS SUMMER IN HERE
>>340834259
>You don't take obvious paths that are guarded.
Again, maps are clusterfucks of chokepoints. Every path is guarded.
>You don't let targets YOU FLANK get the upper hand unless you can't aim
You can't flank because she's either out of reach, being covered by allies, being tipped off by mines, being tipped off by wallhacks, or more than one.
You place a lot of faith in "skill" but anything is good with "skill". I get 4 golds with D.Va regularly but that doesn't mean she's overpowered or even good.
>>340828142
Nice anon I love you
>>340834315
>playing defense
>not getting kills
Kills will happen as a byproduct of doing the objective dumbass. Caring about kills first and the objective second will lose the game.
Best sniper coming through.
>>340834581
Well i meant more like playing defensively on offense which if you're not killing anyone then your team never will because they're all retarded.
>>340827942
Widow is genuinely OP in Overwatch, be happy to get a decent one.
>>340834652
I've noticed that the Bastion pick rate has gone down dramatically in my games. Either my MMR has increased significantly, or people have stopped playing him in general.
>>340834652
hes so tough to play as when you play good people. you are the #1 most popular person all the sudden, everybody trying to give you the D.
>>340834743
I think people have just figured out his counters by this point, so nobody ever plays him as much anymore because hes actually pretty easy to kill
>>340834254
>Sitting on the objective
>The least thing you want to do
The fact that there are heroes made purely for KDR is nonsense to me.
>>340834676
>your team never will because they're all retarded.
I wish, I'm getting way too many good teams. Everyones playing really well together and the enemy team is frightfully challenging too.
I just want to go back to pub stomping.
>>340834743
I want to play him more, but he gets killed so extremely easily. He also can't really be picked on attack, so that doesn't help.
>>340834818
Honestly they should give him back his shield and just nerf his long range damage.
Hes way too easy to shut down.
>>340833023
Eliminations don't fucking matter. You could accidentally hit one person with a stray bullet from tracer's guns and if they die it'll count as an elimination.
>>340827942
a lot of point & click adventure fans are attracted to class based shooters
>>340834059
>Did I ever say "the whole team" no I didn't.
Okay then you fucktard, if the whole team isn't on the objective, then what should the ones who aren't on the objective be doing? Fingering their assholes? No, you moron, they're out getting destroying the enemy team as best as they can. Thats what helps win games.
Fucking summerfags everybody.
>>340834963
I always pick him when the enemy team goes hard damage soakers. Pretty fun when you get a 5 man winston team to rage at you in chat.
>>340834903
this. its stressfull. if I dont play amazing every match to carry my team, its 100% loss. I cant mess around as a different character I suck as without getting absolutely dicked down.
>>340827942
is there a spy class? because that ends up getting picked more by F2P tards
>teammate picked hanzo to keep me out of hanzo
>pick zarya
>he switches to zenyatta
>go back and pick hanzo
>he complains and says zarya was better
>the enemy team picked 5 widows
>get 3 gold medals because i usually win long range duels vs widows
fucking zenyatta trying to tell me i suck at hanzo, i dont ok
>>340833023
>>340834992
Eliminations usually don't mean shit on Tracer because it's so easy to run around 'tagging' everyone with your SMGs and getting a million eliminations even though you do like 2 damage to each person.
>>340835051
>he still believes the summer myth
>>340835135
Got 'em
im a lone wolf, a solitary animal. i make my own way in this world and you better not get in my way kid *loses objective*
>>340835090
reaper is the closest thing and yeah he gets picked a fair deal, but hes doesn't have that alure that backstabs have so it teeters off the higher you get in mmr.
>>340835135
Sounds like you're playing in dogshit-tier MMR.
Thicc
>>340834963
>Torbjorn sets up on the payload
>decide to be a cheeky cunt and do the same as a Bastion
>Reinhardt gets in on the action and tears the breaks off the bang bus
I'm amazed the enemy team was dumb enough for something like that to work
>>340835234
>these people don't know the joy of protecting their teammates and that short lived comradery with total strangers
>>340835356
I can't believe teams I get still get rolled by the Bastion+Reinhardt+Mercy meme set-up.
>>340835283
>le MMR meme
people always find ways to ruin videogames
>>340835287
>fat skin for Widow
>use grapple
>pull down overhang crushing opponents
>>340835356
>something like this happens
>no one on the enemy team tries to counter it
>they all rage about how uncounterable it is in chat
Now five man torbjorn though is a hock of shit on A/D
The need to have a "badass" role
It separates them in a cool way from the rest of the team
>uh-oh guys, we need someone to pick that enemy Widow
>Looks like we'll have to call in....Minecraftkid2004
>"Nothin personnel, guys, I got this"
Soldier 76 is way too good
>Heal for team
>rocket jump
>that run
>aimbot ult
2
gud
>>340827942
She wouldn't be nearly so bad if her ult had a slower cooldown.
>>340835609
That wouldn't bother me if they had characters that could hard counter a solid Widow. As it stands, the only way to stop a good Widow is with a better Widow. It's silly.
>KOTH
>Enemy team has a Widowmaker
>Doesn't attempt to capture the point, just sits back and tries to snipe
>My team steamrolls them 2-0
>Enemy Widowmaker calls out his 28/2 K/D ratio
>My team bags on him hard
Snipers are value to team
>>340835283
yea man im not a super pro at this video like 1% of the streamers you watch. good job pointing that out
>>340835737
Shit health and low mobility though
>>340835841
>5 widow teams
>Zenyatta picks
>Hanzo beating Widow
You're not only not 'pro', you're at the bottom of the barrel.
>>340835849
>Low mobility
>Run that makes him faster than tracer
>rocket jump
what are you saying
>>340835436
ive hit the point where nobody even flinches at it anymore
that set up is completely shit considering it takes 2 people out of the game pretty much
>>340835737
>Mfw I discovered you could rocket jump as him the other day
>playing A/D
>reinhardt starts complaining saying he has Gold Elim and our team is shit
>Widow says she actually has gold
>I have silver
>our support has bronze
>he just quietly leaves after the game ends
>>340835436
I try to call it out in hopes people switch classes to counter it, but it never works.
>>340835849
>low mobility
>infinite sprint
>>340835953
If someone catches him hes dead even if he runs. You have to be fairly careful and keep your distance when playing him, but theres a shit ton of characters that can counter that and nuke him.
>>340836031
You can also rocket jump decently with pharah for only 40 hp, and with bastions ult.
>>340830301
What anime?
>>340836353
ecchi ecchi
When is Brokeback Mountain getting nerfed?
despite needing to have a good level of skill, sniper is a very basic class. anyone from beginner to expert knows what to do with a sniper. it's just a matter of how good they are.
>>340829138
>in her auto rifle mode.
You're retarded then. Play 76.
>>340836090
if two people have the same number of kills then they both get a gold medal, stupid
and theres objective kills and and total eliminations and the UI will show you which one you have more of
Reinhardt will almost always have a gold on "eliminations" but they're most likely objective eliminations, or your team actually was shit and he had as many kills as the sniper
>>340835941
alright anon
>>340836686
It was pretty obvious he was lieing when he didn't defend himself.
What character out there do people complain about the least? So far this seems to be the community standard, complain complain complain.
>>340836874
Reaper
Hes the most balanced hero in the game.
My only problem with this game is that there's no one nearly as fun as Scout.
>>340836963
The early cinematic trailers had him using a grenade launcher as well. Was that in the beta?
>>340836435
rude
>>340837170
prove this, i do not believe you.
>>340837232
last scene when they get whisked away by widowmakers hook shot, he fires 3 grenades if I recall.
>>340837170
I wish, just remove the teleport and he'd be an amazing team bruiser.
>>340837232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqnKB22pOC0
>2:50
I mean its just a cinematic trailer, but every single cinematic trailer, the characters are using abilities that they actually have ingame, except that one. I wonder if he was originally going to have grenade launchers as well or something
>>340836874
If you include complaining about them being on your team then probably rein
Help me, /v/. I've got too much anger after we went into overtime in Nepal with the enemy team at 99% and our Zenyatta sat just outside the point with his ult charged and let time run out. I don't get mad at this game, but that...fuck.
>>340837412
He was also white in the trailer and widowmaker didn't instantly kill everyone. Things changed I guess.
>Overwatch thread
Quick, does somebody have the comic of cute D_va and Pharah where she launches the mountain dew?
>>340837412
>>340837353
Well i guess it does make sense he has grenades on his belt, but this was made without any of the developer's say so.
>>340837520
Yea in the same video tracer's chrono thing dies and she is still in existance.
>>340834492
>summer
SURE IS REDDIT IN HERE
>>340830301
being sniper is pretty chill until you start being an anti-sniper. its part of the job
>>340837597
That and the Omnic war was just a backdrop story, and there were actual super heroes not caracatures of a nationality with robot legs
Who is the girl in the hero short that s76 saves?
Is she somehow importante?
if youre a tracer/genji player and you refuse to get on the objective if theres nobody coming/you get a team wipe you're a joke. Yes your job is to flank and KILL (not "harass") snipers and turrets/bastions but to always be looking for kills is ridiculous I hope I get to farm you for mmr when ranked comes out
>>340838220
like 9/10 chance shes reapers daughter, and or sombras daughter.
>playing d.va and boosting up to a shitter hanzo/widowmaker and fucking them up
I also love how hanzo players spazz around when you get too close and try to pull off some mad skillz bruh
>>340838909
>d.va walks up to me as hanzo
>Shoot her crit box for 300 damage and then scatter arrow her if shes not boosting away in fear
D.va is the only hero that's fun to fight
>>340828142
>thinking that would stop me
>armor reduces damage you take by half
>but only to a maximum of 5 damage reduction
>>340839064
There's no point in running away from a hanzo as d.va. Once you're in human form it's much harder for the hanzo to hit you, but your blaster will kill him very quickly in close/medium range. Once I stopped trying to protect my meka as d.va and realized how stupid fast you can build up your meter to call in a new meka I started getting tons more kills.
>>340839649
Just hope he doesn't save scatter.
>>340827942
It's the only class for which guns act like guns do in reality.
It takes one bullet to kill someone.
