DUDE CELL SHADING LMAO
Who thefuck did they corrupt now?
>>340829083
You
tfw banned for half a year
>>340829083
Looks like evil maiev
Or that warden from wod
The one that tried to steal your cock ring. You didn't kill her, she just teleported away to get GREENED by Gul'dan
>>340827737
Im so fucking sick of cell shading REEEEEEEEEEEee
>>340827737
That actually looks sick. I knew Blizzard still had cool designs left in them
>>340827737
I havnt played WoW since lich king and the activision merger
But that actually looks nice, cell shading overhaul would be the perfect artstyle that game could use
>>340830060
Hasn't Maiev always been corrupted in a sense? They don't have to like, fel blood her shit up.
>>340830370
She's just crazy for that half demon cock
She wants to get PREPARED
>>340830492
Well yeah but like, this is the bitch that would probably get off 24/7 while playing Revengeance. That doesn't sound hard to get prepared for.
>>340830060
it looks like warrior set armor.
>>340830370
Illidan is now the ultimate champion of the light and there's holy dreadlord models, blizz has completely given up on writing any sort of decent story
>>340830690
More like a night elf warden who lost her cape. Except with spooky green
A warrior would not wear that fatty neck
>cell shading
They've been doing this effect on things for a very long time, there's nothing new or groundbreaking about it.
>>340830798
I'm literally only on the ride still so I can see where they take it.
Fucking Sylvanas as warchief is the funniest shit I've seen yet.
>>340830850
t. blizzard employee
>>340827737
Anyone seen the movie?
>Viking ragnar as lothar
>Durotan 10/10
>Ben foster mage-ing shit up
>Kadgar dude was bretty good
Only thing is the movie couldve used about another hour of durotan
>>340830850
its overused as fuck really.
Its on half the fucking gear nowadays I swear
>>340830798
>Illidan is now the ultimate champion of the light
Fucking what? I had seen that one holy dreadlord model and had a laugh/chuckle over its ridiculousness but fucking WHAT?
Illidan is now the equivalent of like Tirion Fordring or Velen?
What the fuck happened to this series.
>>340831018
Other than incontinuity stuff with timelines and shit, and creative license taken into account it wasn't bad. Like game movies are normally a hell of a lot worse, but they could have used more time instead of zippin about.
>>340830798
Is this a fucking joke?
Isn't Illidan dead?
I shouldn't even care as much as I do because Blizzard is dogshit these days but god damn.
>>340830903
>Fucking Sylvanas as warchief is the funniest shit I've seen yet.
That's probably so they can rehash the garrosh storyline and have her go full evil and kill her. What worries me is that she's the last of the decent horde leaders with vol'jin gone and one she's one of the few wc3 characters still around, there isn't really anyone to replace her at this point especially for the undead.
>>340831092
I can get behind it only for the fact that Illidan has always been a hero and just got shat on.
>>340831092
Apparently in one of the latest warcraft books an elder Naaru visits Illidan and tells him that he is to lead a grand army of light and then engraves a gloving symbol on his forehead
>>340830798
>He has the gift of the naaru
That's nice.
Those wings though
Is it 2007?
>>340830903
She's literally the only horde race leader that could be warchief though
Thrall fucked off, Garrosh did nothing wrong, Vol'jin is missing, Saurfang would be OP, nobody would trust Gallywix and baine is not Cairne.
The only relevant thing baine did in game was asking you to exile the grimtotems. He's had nice character development in the books but normies don't reads those and blizzard has a tendency to retcon everything in books anyway
>tfw you have friends who still play wow and are excited for legion
It's like watching crack addicts destroy their own lives.
>>340831092
>he doesn't know
>>340827737
all this holy dreadlord shit reminds me of Diablo 3 and what a shitfest that was.
>>340831264
But Lor'themar.
>>340831332
Meanwhile you're capable of looking down on them but you post anime pics on 4chan
>>340831141
Illidan was a demon. Did you kill him in the twisting nether? No? Then obviously he would come back.
>>340830798
I dont mind the idea of illidan somehow turning to the light, but they should at least drop the demonic hooves and the horns.
>>340831362
>>340831216
he can be a hero without being the champion of the armies of light
>>340831414
>
>>340831425
They watch anime and one of them posts on 4chan too
also
>being on 4chan and not watching anime
fuck off to facebook or something newnormalfag
>>340831216
Illidan was always an anti-hero though, not a goody two shoes
>>340831386
Literally Sylvanas' slave boy
Also blood elves want to leave the horde but alliance is full of retards that don't get the hint
>>340831186
>there isn't really anyone to replace her at this point especially for the undead.
They'll probably just shit out a random NPC and claim that they're amazing, like the did with that Draenei in WoD.
So after 20 years of "DUDE CORRUPTION LMAO" they've finally realized it was overused and have started going full "DUDE REDEMPTION ROFLMAO"
>>340831539
>betray the neutrality of Dalaran
>want to leave the horde
Really?
>>340831506
I'd hardly call it anti-hero seeing as they were supposed to be a warring type of race anyways, no? But then his hippy brother and waifu couldn't handle their earth crying out to stop death himself.
>>340831539
>Also blood elves want to leave the horde
Blood elves wanted to leave the horde until jaina got the bright idea to purge them from dalaran with no warning
>>340831186
so whats wrong with light dreadlord?
>>340831582
They don't care.
It's not about the story itself.
The story is just a means to an end to show off raid mechanics.
>>340831494
>both will have corruption stories
>>340830060
It's Cordana Felsong, the warden who was protecting Khadgar in WoD
>>340831582
Warcraft started getting stupid redemption stories with 3 already.
Its been hamfisted the second they stopped doing THESE GUYS ARE OBJECTIVELY GOOD, THESE ARE OBJECTIVELY BAD
>>340831676
They absolutely had it coming
>Just looked up the Warcraft movie box office numbers
Good lord, even China isn't saving it.
>>340831362
>"That is what makes you dangerous."
>"So the universe has anointed me to slay Kil'jaeden."
>"Wonderful," Illidan said. "As if they were not strong enough."
>mfw someone wrote these, and editor approved these, a final higher-up editor then approved them, and it they were read and green-lit by Blizzard without anyone batting an eye
Jesus, William, what the fuck happened to you?
Gotrek & Felix wasn't exactly high end writing but at least it had some heart.
This is just straight canned phrases of bullshit conversation to fill out page space. There is no depth here.
>>340831497
lmao just kys
>>340827737
More like FELL SHADING LMAO
>>340831721
>Its been hamfisted the second they stopped doing THESE GUYS ARE OBJECTIVELY GOOD, THESE ARE OBJECTIVELY BAD
I dunno man.
Having an angel come to people, put a shiny mark on their forehead and making them glow with yellow light to show they're a good guy now seems pretty hamfisted.
>>340831743
>280mil grossed worldwide
Thats far from bad.
Movie got shat on by critics but people still went out to watch it.
>>340827737
DUDE *STILL* TRYING TO RECAPTURE THE MAJESTY OF TIER 2 LMAO
>>340830798
>Maiev will be purified by the dick
Couldn't be better
>>340831743
but you're wrong, china is saving it
>probably went to rottenSHILLS.com
>>340831750
Most of the books are essentially just mandated material that the authors have to figure out how to tell a cohesive story with.
Gone are the days of novels like Rise of the Horde, where it was a story for the sake of telling a story.
>>340831568
That doesn't really work for the forsaken though, a major part of their story is based around sylvanas, she led them and gave them a purpose after they were freed and is probably the only reason that they weren't immediately wiped out and were able to establish themselves in the world diplomatically, and lorewise the forsaken practically worship her.
>>340831463
>>340831362
>"A halo played around his head. His body began to glow brighter than the sun, and from his outstretched arms, rays of Light emerged to strike down his foes."
So WoW is Dragon Ball Z now. I can't believe someone got paid to write this.
>"This could not be true. It was not any path he had ever set out on. It was not who he was. He was a fighter and a killer, as driven by darkness and his own desires as he was by any urge to do right."
No, scratch that, it's Naruto fan fiction.
>>340831743
"I have low standards! Everything is good to me! Haha!"
To call this fan-fiction is too much.
This is now like if all the original writers left, and then got replaced by mediocre fan-fiction writers who got their work to be canon, and then that lasted for a generation, and then THOSE writers also left, and got replaced by fan-fiction writers who only ever grew up with the initial fan-fiction stories of the middle writers, and they are now writing the story.
A fan-fiction of a fan-fiction.
>>340831743
>>340831838
its 128m+ over its budget right now, that's pretty decent even more so once you consider that its still in its opening weekend and has time to make money
>>340827737
I really wish /v/ would stop throwing around terms ignorantly. This isn't cell shading.
>>340831901
Was Rise of the Horde any good? I read a few WoW books, but they were recent ones. Pretty shit. Just started reading The Witcher series and the difference in quality is staggering.
>>340831679
>light dreadlord
dark heal.jpg
>>340831896
>>340831838
It needs to hit 500 million to break even, though.
>>340832123
Early warcraft novels aren't bad like rise of the horde and the war of the ancients series. Most of the rest is shit.
>>340831608
They wanted to leave because Garrosh forced them to betray Dalaran. Jaina going full DISMANTLE and Vol'jin being a bro probably convinced them to stay but now that Sylvanas is warchief and jaina is slowly undismantling herself, that issue is going to pop up again. Do you really think a high elf would want to serve under an undead bitch who has no respect for them and is just using them as a disposable tool to further her own agendas?
>>340830798
>Horns
>>340831186
>No horns
METZEEEEEEEEEN
>holy demons
>holy illidan
I don't even care anymore
>>340832171
With a 160mil budget?
Get fucking real.
Call it a shit movie, thats fair enough but lets not go full delusional and deny reality here.
>there will never be a transmog Warden set
Fucking shit Blizzard
>WoD merged into the normal game
>decide to finally try the infamous WoW
>buy a month of subscription
>2 days in
>lvl 45 having a blast
What the fuck guys, you said it was shit, that it was ruined years ago yet im having the time of my life
>>340831743
I saw it, it was a fucking slog. One of the most soulless things I've seen.
>>340832123
>Just started reading The Witcher series and the difference in quality is staggering
The witcher is completely different though the books came first and the games are based on an original story that takes place after the books. The warcraft books are a collection of authors trying to bridge the gaps between games because blizzard has gotten too lazy to tell the story in the actual game anymore.
>>340831186
What's funny is that the whole "light dreadlord" thing is a call back to a Vanilla quest that was never resolved
How old are some of you?
>>340832251
>jaina is slowly undismantling herself
That's because she's secretly a dreadlord. Aren't you keeping up with the memes, my man?
>>340831186
>>340831679
>>340832148
well that particular dreadlord was the one guy who you help out in a cave in the blasted lands during vanilla questing. He was hunting this one dreadlord and you teleport to the top of the mountain to help him fight it, at the end he banishes himself and the dreadlord somewhere and thats it, end of quest.
he's back in legion, having fully taken control of the dreadlord body.
>>340832314
It's shit the longer you play. As a new player you will love it, but some back in a few months and see if you still think the same way.
>>340830165
>REEEEEEEEEEEee
Stop.
>>340832314
>listening to /v/
>listening to anyone
>not trying stuff for yourself and playing what you enjoy
zozzle
>>340832274
Those are the numbers reported by MMO-Champion.
>>340831497
>>340831332
>people having fun playing a game
>are actually excited for something they enjoy instead of shitposting on an imageboard
I garantee you're around 18 or 19 and going through a "everyone is dumb except me" phase.
The fact you compare people being excited for something to a crack addiction shows your delusion
Grow the fuck up
>>340832314
Its a pretty good game.
People just got tired of it and WoD lacked endgame content, but that wont matter for much longer.
>>340832314
its only the world's shittiest game when you've been playing it for 11 fucking years straight and you've lost control of your life.
If you start out fresh or are a new guy to the franchise its actually pretty fun.
>>340831916
It doesn't matter, Blizzard doesn't care about continuity or consistency.
>>340832314
Honestly anon,
the first time through WoW is everyone's best time. These salty fucks treat the story like a demon hunter turned holy is the end times when it's not even the worst they've pulled.
Enjoy your time and make some friends on your way to 100. Legion will come and you can join other people in all new content.
>>340832489
I guarantee that I'm 22 and actually know how to spell guarantee. Now fuck off you 14 year old.
it's cel shading you fucking fedora lords get it right.
>>340832356
It's based on the loramus quest, that doesn't make it any less ridiculous for a demon to be using light
>How old are some of you?
Wow came out 10 years ago and a good portion of its quests are no longer accessible so what does that have to do with anything
>>340832314
Welcome to nostalgia. The majority of /v/ only played vanilla WoW for a few weeks or got around to level 20-30 and stopped playing but glorified the fuck out of it. I can guarantee you less than 1% of the people on this site made it to raids in vanilla.
>spiked shoulders with smoke and or glow reskin #2849029017
>sub with gold
>log in to collect free gold from garrisons and auctions
>playing on Kronos when bored
Its amazing how a clunky game from 10 years ago is still so fun
>>340829307
>>340832424
Well yeah but thats all MMOs in general, last year i played GW2 nonstop, got to max lvl in almost 3 weeks yet i cant stand to play it more than 30 minutes nowadays
>>340831439
Demonic isn't actually evil anymore. So you can use light magic and fel magic together.
I'm not fucking kidding.
>>340832171
>>340832481
>MMO-Champion
So? I can make up numbers as well
>cell shading
I thought it was "cel" shading or is this some kind of meme?
>>340832568
I'm 25 but that doesn't change the fact you're shitposting about other people being happy and enjoying themselves.
I realize this is /v/ but this is seriously getting pathetic and really old to see these same posts for literally years
>t-they're crack addicts
>how sad for them
You're a pretentious fuck
>>340832730
It still looks fucking dumb.
>>340832354
Yea, I was just grouping them because I pre-judged it as derivative Tolkien-fantasy schlock just like Warcraft.
>>340832787
At least I can spell.
>>340832123
Rise of the Horde and The Last Guardian are the only books worth reading, in my opinion. Of Blood and Honor is a nice novella too.
Anything by Knaak is shit though. And Golden's later books lack the charm of Rise of the Horde.
>>340832314
Leveling is still fine the cata revamps were nice, but eventually you'll get to 100 and be stuck with nothing to do but the facebook minigame that is garrisons and the same few raids and dungeons for a year+
>>340832830
>brings up spelling mistake twice in a row
Why do people keep posting after being called out?
>>340832896
How did you not learn how to spell properly in 25 years?
>>340832830
>At least I can spell.
great now take it to reddit where you can get upvotes for correcting people
I can't believe that their entire damn companion book was about how the universe can only be saved by the WORLD OF WARCRAFT (TM).
This shit's beyond saving.
Reboot when?
>>340832314
The first time you level is amazing. The cata world revamp fixed questing so 1-60 is incredible. 60-70 will probably be less fun but it will keep getting better up until max level. Dungeons and raids are good but you can only keep repeating them for so long especially since no raiding guild will want a newbie this late so you'll be stuck in lfr. You'll probably get bored after a month of lvl 100 content after getting decent gear because it's literally
>Log in
>Go into your private mine and herb garden to get mats
>Go to your private buildings, give the mats to NPCs so they can craft crafting mats for you
>Complete your follower missions and send them on new ones preferably with an add-on that does it for you
>Check your daily mission
>Go to one of the ten daily mission zones, kill mobs until you fill a bar
>If you're feeling like it go to tanaan jungle and complete two more daily quest zones by killing mobs until you fill a bar
>Maybe even get your daily kazzak by finding a group and pressing 1 at the boss for two minutes
>Log out because anything you do from now on would be inefficient as fuck
Hopefully legion will fix it though
>Legion is looking to actually have content unlike WoD
>legacy servers seem extremely likely
So are we finally going to have an equilibrium where both sides can be happy?
How is Illidan still alive? Didn't they kill him off twice?
>>340832350
I just saw that shit tonight, anon.
I don't think it was that bad. Yea, there were a few scenes where the CGI was poorly done or that one scene from the .webm where they fight in front of the dark portal and the actor in the forefront is sort of just shimmying...
but that scene lasted less that 5 or so seconds. Honestly the worst part of the movie to me was how heavy handed they went with diversifying the cast. It was awkwardly jarring when there was suddenly like a 19 year old woman in a full plate who was supposed to be a high enough rank to be in the palace armory. There were asian and non asian elves, and it was half the side characters need to be 5-10 years older. They looked like WoW cosplayers in some scenes.
All that being said, as someone who at least knows the lore up until cata. I thought it was decent, I enjoyed it enough that I didn't feel like I didn't get my moneys worse out of the experience.
Orgrim Doomhammer was pretty alright, and I wish they named Grom but the few shots he was in were appreciated. They also showed Kilrog in some scenes and a bunch of the warchiefs. I felt like there was a lot there for people who were warcraft fans.
I can totally see why critics who've never played the game would think it was garbage though.
6.5/10
I don't know how people can like orcs. They're literally warmongering assholes even WITHOUT demonic drug-addiction.
>>340833060
People will always bitch.
They bitched about Pandaria too and that was legit good.
>>340833069
>Twice
Que
He only died at the black temple as a demon. Demons can't die for real outside of the twisting nipples
>>340833019
>using AoS as an example of a reboot
>"let's taking something bad, AND MAKE IT WORSE!"
Oh dear god no anon pls no
>>340833060
No, but if a majority is happy then that's about as close as you can get.
It's funny how the most well-written parts of Warcraft lore come from the fan-submissions:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/lore/savage-world/code-of-rule/page-1
>>340833019
I've seen this picture a thousand times but only now do I see the Sigmarine holding a sword with a skeleton inside it.
NOW I understand why it tore /tg/ apart
>>340833219
Warcraft started out as a knockoff of Warhammer Fantasy Battle.
It's the perfect example.
wow sucks
>>340833219
>>340833019
>>340833231
>Following the destruction of the Warhammer World by the forces of Chaos, Sigmar floated through outer space, clinging to the core of the Old world. He eventually met a space dragon called Dracothion, and they became good friends
This sounds amazing.
So is anyone here actually going to play Legion or is this just another complaint or thinly veiled nostalgia thread
>>340833118
I'll admit I giggled like a little kid when I saw Kargath and Grom with Gorehowl
>>340833491
I will play it.
Expansions are always worth it at launch.
>>340833019
Why don't any of these space marines have bolters
>>340833619
Some of the sigmarines use crossbows that are suspiciously similar to bolters
I said It once, and will say It again:
They gives no more shits for the Warcraft lore. Metzen is Just pushing everything as over the top as he can till It finally collapses on itself.
That being said, i am waiting for then to kill fuckboi bolvar and give the helm of domination to either full DISMANTLE Jaina or Kel thuzad
>>340827737
That's not cel shading retard.
>>340833019
>Reboot when?
I don't feel like typing out a full crackpot theory right now but after reading the warcraft chronicle I honestly get the feeling their leading up to one. In the warcraft chronicle its mentioned that the universe started with light expanding out but eventually parts of it faded creating void, when they eventually challenged each other the universe was born. If the legion is coming back and we do unite as the army of light and defeat sargeras we'll have defeated the biggest threat to the universe and there's nothing that can really stop the light at that point the naaru will be free to spread light everywhere. Eventually though some of that light will begin to fade and a new void will be born leading to the recreation of the universe.
I doubt that they'll stop making wow expansions any time soon but I feel like they're reaching a point where they could very easily break off and make an alternate time line to make new games in while keeping wow going, essentially what they just did with the movie universe.
>>340833491
i dont like the direction the lore is taking. I absolutely hate the idea of another Legion invasion and i have literally nothing to look forward to. Legion will fail and WoW can finally die like it should have 3 expansions ago
>>340833491
I'm going to play Legion and I think this might end up being my most hated expansion for one reason:
level scaling.
Fuck level scaling, I think it should be a BASIC FUCKING GAME DESIGN RULE that you should allow your players to contrast their power when relevant, such as in RPGs or games where you are able to get upgrades to your power.
This fucking scaled level system is the most heinous game design I've seen blizzard produce, and they've fucked up on a lot of levels recently, such as with the new talent "trees" and the artifact weapons.
>>340832742
really dude? You think mmo-champion, basically the pinnacle of blizzard fanboy sites, is going to highball the amount needed for the movie to break even?
The math has been reported on several sites now, but if mmo-champion has bad news about how much the money needs to make, chances are it's not wrong. If anything mmochamp would be reporting lower numbers due to fanboyism.
Get you fucking head out of your fat ass for once, anon. We're all worried about you. If you don't know how movie money is reported and tracked, that's totally cool, but it's not like all these sites have a vested interest in fooling clever detective john c anon.
Faggot.
>>340833491
>So is anyone here actually going to play Legion
Of course, they will as much as people bitch sub numbers consistently jump to back above 10mil every new xpac, they won't stay that way but people will definitely play at launch
>>340831427
>Illidan was a demon
false
>>340831186
>>340830798
>>340827737
i want off mister metzins wild ride NOW
>>340834001
>http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/lore/characters/illidan-stormrage
>race: demon
>after absorbing the energies of the demonic Skull of Gul'dan, Illidan became a demon
ok
>there are people who think WoD is worse than Cataclysm
WoD is just a really dull filler expansion they stretched out too long. Cataclysm hurt the core game more and introduce a lot of shit they're still trying to band aid
I don't care what anyone says the Vanilla revamp was a terrible decision. WoW questing was never rocket science but the Cata quests follow an even dumber formula and are just neutered Vanilla quest.
New Duskwood is embarrassing with how short the entire zone's quest lines are and how little time you spend there
Add that on top of decreased experience requirements, dungeons giving to much experience and overall new class design the low level content is too easy.
Then you consider it from a story perspective for a new player. A lot of the revamped vanilla zones are just wank off material for people who had been playing for years. A new player has no reference to any of the callback characters or quests.
Won't even get into Raid Finder
Cata was the original nostalgia pandering expansion
>>340833912
>he thinks subs will rise to 10 mil + for Legion
>he doesnt know that they are close to 2mil and possibly even less than that by now
You are fucking delusional. Legion wont even hit 7 mil and its going to plummit to unseen sub numbers nearing 1 mil
>>340833803
I agree with this. There are a lot of other nonsense that sounds like garbage in Legion, but all level scaling does is further reinforce the sense of a single player RPG with the added bonus of obnoxious nuisances bouncing around in the form of other players.
It should be a varied world, not a world that adjusts solely based on the player. That shit would be totally cool for scenarios, challenge mode type encounters, etc, but for the leveling to be scaled seems stupid as shit.
I know it's a meme to call WoW a lobby game but I honestly had expected Legion to correct a lot of that. I want to go out in the world, not have everything be a fucking gimmick on top of a gimmick.
>>340833885
You need more mmochampions in your wall of text
>>340833725
Jaina is a dreadlord in disguise
WoD was a train wreck in the sense someone forgot to build the tracks but they also forgot to build 90% of the train anyway.
Legion is going to be a trainwreck too, but this time It is a multi track drifting and loops and the train is full of fireworks.
>>340834149
>he doesnt know that they are close to 2mil and possibly even less than that by now
They're closer to 5 million, they won't stay that high but its practically guaranteed they'll jump back to 10mil with the new expansion, subs always have a drastic jump then decline after an expansion launches
What class has the coolest order halls? Top 3 preferably.
>>340834141
>I don't care what anyone says the Vanilla revamp was a terrible decision.
I'm ashamed to admit i loved the vanilla revamp in early cata, actually the prepatch. I thought it was a fun way to create the illiusion of a changing world, plus gave me a fun excuse to level a new guy without it being boring.
However after the 2nd go-through of that I realized how streamlined it all was and how much the leveling experience (which at that point wasn't stellar anyhow) had lost. Basically putting the dungeons-as-one-long-corridor philosophy and translating it into leveling. Was fun the first time but now is even more of a chore as there's really no choice about how you level, at least questing wise.
I hate to "vanilla was better" fag, but it's true for the revamp by far.
>>340834336
>they are close to 5 million
>Legion will hit 10 mil
YOU JUST CANT BE THIS FUCKING DELUSIONAL MATE
>>340834182
>I want to go out in the world
If you actually followed any Legion content you would see that a majority of the quests, objectives and end game is about going out into the new zones.
Class halls are not be all end all zones with every vendor/necessity in them.
I'm in the beta now and I say its on par with Wotlk in terms of how much you go into the world, honestly even more so.
>>340834001
Go to the black temple. Get to Illidan. Click on him, screenshot the info plate and come back here.
>>340832314
Most of the people you see complaining are stuck at level cap, and WoD has by far the worst max level content of any expansion thus far
I started leveling a rogue recently to break the monotony, and yeah, leveling is still pretty alright
>>340834149
It never fails to amaze me how people on /v/ are so incredibly sure of numbers they literally pulled out of their asses.
>>340834336
>subs always have a drastic jump then decline after an expansion launches
Not with BC and Wrath
>>340834386
RogueRogue.___:^)
>>340834386
>Warriors
Then mages and dks I guess?
>>340834386
Warlock
Druid
Priest
>>340834407
The Cataclysm content should have just been max level content for stuff like Gilneas, Uldum, Twilight Highlands etc
Those were zones that were literally on the Vanilla game maps yet inaccessible. Majority of them were handled so poorly
Uldum was a joke of a zone and Gilneas is just a starting area that's still empty
>>340831362
I want to die
>>340833019
>>340833746
You have to approach this from a marketing/business standpoint rather than a storytelling one. That's what Blizzard does. WoW is a serialized story - the objective isn't to give it a proper ending, but to keep it going as long as people are interested. String the audience along, introduce new threats/character while old ones are erased.
They do have a drastic jump but I think you're overestimating both the jump Legion will benefit from and underestimating how big the decline will be.
The hype from Legion is nowhere near that the hype for WoD was. WoD had former subs coming back in droves, people who hadn't played WoW in years were discussing it. Legion has normal wowfags talking about it and that's about it. For the resubs it does gain, for many this is the "last chance" on being burned again.
WoD hitting 10million again was unforseen. Legion won't, but if they don't report numbers all this barking may be meaningless anyhow. It's really too bad as you would think blizz would learn from how steep and godawful that sub decline months into WoD was, but WoW is clearly not their priority and it shows. They seem to double down on poor decisions or take entire xpacs to address constructive feedback.
>>340834427
your have nothing to base your 2 mil number on, statista on the other hand is estimating around 5 mil which is more reliable than your memeing
CORRUPTION is the BLACKED of WoW.
>>340833053
> The cata world revamp fixed questing so 1-60 is incredible.
Fuck off faggot
cata rework made questing streamlined, on rails, boring and turned it into series of epic maymays instead of having actual writing.
>>340834430
yes, and it's level scaled. Gimmicks upon gimmicks. i want to out into the WORLD world, not the world custom made for me the ultimate dolph lundgren champion of the light and also fel and also i can read minds
Am I the only one who hates how they've handled adding new races to the game or at least how their starting zones are handled?
After Dranei and Blood Elves the new races starting zones are now all phased areas with forced linear narratives. Before you had the freedom to just walk out of the starting zone and go to another one if you really wanted. Now new races are just anchored to their starting zones and you can't even go back to them when you're done.
Gilneas is this huge awesome zone and city yet after the worgen opening there is literally nothing in the zone. Blood Elves got the entirety of Silvermoon City and all of Eversong forest and the npcs didn't just vanish when the quest lines ended.
Cata as a whole just seemed like a really sloppy rushed expansion
>>340834631
>Gilneas is just a starting area that's still empty
Isn't that because they wanted both factions to have equal amounts of capitals? Not to mention hasn't Slyvannas already conquered the area after the Silverpine quest line? The worgen retreated from the area so there's no reason why the Forsaken shouldn't have already taken the land
>>340831539
>those wings
Probably covered up by particle effects. WoW model viewers and dataminers only uncover textures and models, they never fully capture the glows and effects.
That being said I'm only getting this to sate my urge to play wow for a short time until I level to cap, do some heroics, attempt to raid and quit as I usually do.
>>340834871
>i want to out into the WORLD world, not the world custom made for me the ultimate dolph lundgren champion of the light
So you don't want the content to be trivialized and make your character seem like a god but you're against level scaling that puts all the content on your level so you're not just steam rolling through it
I'm having a serious problem understanding what you actually want
>>340832314
Leveling is the funnest experience in WoW.
Try out a private vanilla/tbc server if you don't want random dungeon finder to take out the interactions.
>>340834671
Which is exactly why I said
>I doubt that they'll stop making wow expansions any time soon
They'll keep wow going but they know that its dying and they're still bothering to standardize the lore and expand it into other markets with a movie, they clearly have more than we know planned for it. I think the movie was a test to see how well fans responded to an alternate universe versions of it and to test weather or not they could get away with making a new game set in the universe, whether that be a new rts or something completely new that they've never done before like overwatch. Either way overwatch and hearthstone show that they're aware that they need to expand into new markets other than mmo's.
>>340834883
Yep. I was okay with the story based approach for introducing the races the first time, but now i avoid making a goblin for alts as I just don't want to bother with that shit. I hate being stuck when I could be leveling super fast.
Even with heirlooms you're gated by finishing the story quests, I think the literal fastest you can complete the goblin zones is just under 3 hours, racing point to point.
>>340833231
It's a standard. Skulls have always featured prominently in Warhammer human iconography. That is the least of that mess' problems.
>>340835125
Gear power levels shouldnt reach such ridiculous levels like they do in WoW, especially post TBC
gaining power is core to the feeling of actual character progression in an RPG, scaling goes against that
>>340835087
That was also an early model more has been datamined since then but I can't find it
>>340832314
You'll never forget your first time. All the wonder, all the new things to see and explore. I still have fond memories of stuff like my first dungeon or the kurken pilgrimage as a horde hunter.
You need to remember the game is over a decade old and some people have been playing since the beginning, some have even grown up alongside it. A lot of the people still playing have seen their friends slowly drift away over the years for any number of reasons and have become bitter and jaded with time.
And yeah, max level kind of sucks in orclords of orcnorc and at the moment people are just absently dicking around waiting for legion to drop.
>>340834532
>>340834630
Alright. Already have the druid and warlock ones, and they are neat. Love how the druid one is connected to all the emerald portals, for example.
Which dps class for warrior is the least painful? Fury or arms? Warrior is the one class I've never actually played.
whos ready for the dhs
>>340834871
>players get scaled to zone power level so they're not just punching through low level mobs
>this is somehow bad
That's basically a solution to the very problem you're complaining about. So you don't want your character to be a god yet you still want to over level old zones trivializing the content
>>340827737
>CELL
>>340830165
>cell
>>340830274
>cell
>>340830850
>cell
>>340832085
>cell
>>340835125
Don't be dense or pretend to be retarded. I'm saying level scaling is fucking stupid and is a gimmick. If shit is hard, it should just be hard, not scaled to my item level. That feels artificial and completely the opposite of immersive.
wait wait wiat
sylvanas is warchief? HOW?
wasnt she plotting to "separate" and make her own "forsaken" clan?
>>340834386
Mage
Hunter
Warrior
>>340835475
>wasnt she plotting to "separate" and make her own "forsaken" clan?
No? That never happened.
>>340827737
Its called cel-shading. Because its a shading effect accomplished by coloring different cels during animation, then overlapping them. Cel-shading has a hard transition between colors.
So some examples:
OP is not cel-shaded.
Borderlands is not cel-shaded.
Windwaker is cel-shaded.
>>340835475
Vol'jin gets wounded in the intro and appoints sylvanas warchief as he dies, the rest of the leaders are surprisingly ok with it
>all 3 paladin specs get throw into the dumpster
>our only compensation is an Ashbringer and flashy ability animations
You would think an expansion about fighting demons wouldn't have Paladins be so lackluster
>>340835583
>the rest of the leaders are surprisingly ok with it
That's because she saved voljin and baine during the broken isle invasion.
>>340835408
>making it even more of a single player game
>this is somehow good
I feel like you're trolling or honestly can't grasp why level scaling is the opposite of how WoW is supposed to work. Why don't we make every zone phase itself to each player while we're at it, that way everyone has their own individual story and difficulty level.
>>340835583
>surprisingly ok with it
this makes no fucking sense
>>340835538
I think it was during cata? i forgot exactly, but there was a point where Garrosh wanted to kick her out, and quests read rumors about her splitting off. naturally it wouldnt happen due to gameplay elements but still
>tfw Lor'themar/Saurfang as warchief never
why live
>>340835583
>best leader not the new warchief
Well, I doubt he would even want to be leader of the mess called Horde
>>340835735
Garrosh was acting like a bitch because she was using valkyrs to rise humans but she never said she was going to leave the horde.
>>340835760
>>340835768
Is a shame this guy is not the warchief.
>>340835819
>>340835819
ah that was it, thanks. point is it was a huge moment of unease and no one trusted her
>>340827737
that isnt cell shading
>>340830798
>The Child of Light.... Illidan Stormrage
>Meanwhile Anduin is off having an autistic fit while crying over his dad's corpse
LMAO
THEY BUILT THAT LIL NIGGA UP FOR SO LONG TOO
>>340835768
playing through mop made me want him to be next warchief, he was so cool
>>340835927
>>340832085
>implying this thread was ever supposed to be about cel shading
>>340830798
JUST FUCK MY WARCRAFT UP FAMILIA
Can they fucking destroy warcraft any further?! Jesus fucking christ.
>>340835896
There's nobody else popular enough that can take the mantle as well.
>>340835768
>>340836109
Lor'themar hates politics, he wouldn't want to be the warchief even if the majority chose him.
>>340835768
>Lor'themar won't be warchief in your time
What a fucking champ, I hope he gets pushed into the lore a bit.
>>340829083
It's Cordana from the Legendary Ring quest in Warlords.
She has you collect an Orb of Domination and it makes her evil.
>>340832085
>>340833728
>>340835415
>>340835574
>>340835927
b8ed for this EXACT response
>>340836081
>Meanwhile Anduin is off having an autistic fit while crying over his dad's corpse
Good, I hated him from the moment they introduced him and then made him a powerful enough priest to use mind control on an si:7 agent and sneak past another with no build up of his powers, while the player character just stands there useless
>anduin is a fag priest
>instead of leading the alliance in the field hes using retarded furfag as high general
anduin is such a stupid cunt
>>340832830
You're embarrassing yourself, just stop responding.
>>340836448
If Anduin had become a paladin the worldof warcraftwould be so much different.
>>340830903
>Sylvanas as warchief
She'll make the horde great again, starting with the purge of blood elves.
>>340835697
>makes it more of a single player game
The only thing making it single player is you. Scaling it makes the mobs harder to kill. Vanilla could also be played as a single player game aside form elite quests. Grouping only made things much faster in terms of killing mobs
If you watch any Legion footage mobs aren't dying in 2 hits and this is a good thing
>>340836448
>mfw killing shitters as disc priest
>>340836402
>I-I was merely pretending to be retarded! I-I swear!!
>>340836657
horde is sjw tier now
there is no saving the horde
>>340830798
Illidan was always a good guy, he just wants to destroy the legion and went about it in a bad way. His aim was always good.
He does have a vision of himself as a champion of light after being blessed the Naaru when he travels to Argus. At the time he thinks it is a deception tactic from KJ and it is never really brought up again, so it was always planned he would come back and fight for the light.
Demons don't die, they're banished to the twisting nether or some shit (the Legion's nameless demons are supposedly reborn on Argus, not sure exactly what happens to the commanders or named demons like Illidan.)
learn your fuckin lore. It's all clearly laid out in the novels and some of it in WoW itself.
>>340836657
>starting with the purge of blood elves.
Literally the one thing she'd never do, she used to be an elf herself.
>>340836734
>anduin is supposed to be a disc priest
>uses shadow magic
calling it now anduin is possessed by an old god and after killing sargeras he becomes the next threat we have to take down
>>340836820
>horde is sjw tier now
>the leader of the alliance is literally a faggot
lel
>>340831568
>no one decent left to be Warchief.
Chen Stormstout. He fucking founded Orgrimmar anyway. He's the only interesting Panda character anyway. And it'll give the other racial leaders of the horde more screen time since he'll probably be lazy as fuck unless something HUGE that demands his attention
>No one to lead the forsaken
Sylvannas' High Elf fuccboi from andorhal. I forgot his name
>>340836402
>>340835574
I honestly dont mind if it was bait. There are a ton of people who have a skewed idea of what cel-shading is.
If I helped educate even one person, I'm happy.
Sylvanas should rebuild the Wall and make the Worgen pay for it.
>>340836890
Hitler was a jew and he killed 6 million of them
>>340836768
>>340836871
>learn your fuckin lore. It's all clearly laid out in the novels and some of it in WoW itself.
There was a quest as early as vanilla where you help a satyr who redeems himself and turns back into a night elf but that doesn't make suddenly having illidain as champion of the light any less ridiculous they could have easily redeemed him without going off the deep end
>>340836968
>Sylvannas' High Elf fuccboi from andorhal
The death knights save him in their quest line to get a new set of 4 horsemen, he doesn't become one of the horsemen though.
>>340836968
>Only interesting Panda character
>Who's Taran Zhu, Lorewalker "Ear Sex" Cho
>>340836968
Jesus christ i botched my english.
>Chen Stormstout should be warchief because he helped found Durotan and Orgrimmar. He's the only interesting Panda character, and it'll be interesting to see my non-neutral pandas. Since Chen is a lazy fuck, it'll give more reason to have the other racial leaders work shit out amongst themselves. Gallywix, the Darkspear, and the actual orcs of the horde have nothing going on for them storywise right now.
>>340836871
have you seen that illidan model? it's retarded. the lore on how he gets zapped by a naaru is retarded too. I hope that this expansion buries warcraft forever.
>>340836979
you educated no one, in fact I might start a thread calling borderlands cell shading great just to spread misinformation and spite you
>>340837171
Nazgrim
Thoras Trollbane
Sally Whitemane
Darion Mograine
list of the new horseman
>>340837194
>Taran Zhu
>HURR FUCK FOREIGNERS
>Lorewalker Cho
>The man with the most obnoxious voice on Azeroth.
>>340837197
Pandas are a joke that blizz took too far putting one in charge would alienate too large of a playerbase
>>340832649
>your time is worth this little
>First Cinematic Teaser hypes up Illidan
>Play the Beta
>Not a single word of Illidan at all
>All the we get is a small cutscene at the end of the Warden Dungeon where Guldan takes away his body
>>340837194
>Taran Zhu
the biggest retard in world of wacraft
>>340837278
>Darion Mograine
Fucking hell, what a waste. They could have had some proper drama in the story if they let the death knights get Tirion's corpse but no Darion gets fucked over once again
>>340832787
How old are you that it is unique to describe wow as "Warcrack"?
Fuck I hate all these feeble minded kiddies who post:
>you're shitposting about other people being happy and enjoying themselves.
Close your fuckin' eyes nigga
>>340837389
>build wall
>>340837449
I want to know whos going to deliver the killing blow to him.
>>340836904
I WAS MERELY PRETENDING TO BE A KEK! BUY MY EXPANSION NOW FOR INSTANT LEVEL 120 AND A CUSTOM CARD BACK OF ME FUCKING FUCKING FORDRAGONS CORPSE!
>>340830798
That shoulder to waist ratio has to be like 2+, mirin
>tfw you haven't collected this appearance
>>340836968
>Sylvannas' High Elf fuccboi from andorhal. I forgot his name
Koltira's been missing for 2 expansions now and is basically being tortured/reeducated by sylvanas I doubt the undead would take to kindly to a leader who's shitting on the old one who saved them and has largely been the one to define their race, but then again blizzard has been throwing story out the window lately so when sylvanas used the valkyr to go full evil she'll probably be replaced by some generic npc that they write in at the last minute
>>340837712
Dks are going to rescue him in legion.
>>340837461
That guys post had nothing relevant to the conversation.
Complaining about normies playing popular video games is getting old
>>340837750
>>340837784
yes rescue him from sylvanas which is the exact reason he won't replace her
>>340837838
>That guys post had nothing relevant to the conversation.
So what bitch, this is /v/ not reddit, and you only added to the non-conversation
>>340837387
>teases Illidan
>being upset that the expansion doesn't dump the entire story within the first few patches
Why would any of the characters mention Illidan until you actually find him?
>>340837171
what do the 4 horsemen do again? guard naxx? thats it?
>>340837249
Im confident I helped someone.
You can do whatever you want, thats the beauty of the internet!no matter how sad it is
>>340838028
They are going to take the battle to the scourge or something
I don't get how anyone could be excited for this shit.
Everything has already been spoiled, the end game is worse then WOW has ever been, yes, even worse then WOD, since now the entire content is going to revolve around fucking artifact power as our new skinnerbox mechanic, that has no customization what so ever despite what people think.
>>340838135
>I don't get how anyone could be excited for this shit.
ask youre mom
>>340837171
>>340837278
I'm honestly surprised that Blizzard remembered that the DKs are loyalty belongs to Ebon Blade first and their faction second. You can outright have a horde character (a forsaken nonetheless) raid their own faction capital to save Koltira
>>340838028
That was the original intention, The Lich King has other plans for them.
>>340838203
oh right
what happened to the new lich king
>>340838203
Yeah that's something I really like about dks and dhs.
>>340838260
He's sitting in his frozen throne helping the ebon blade and fire mages to fight the legion.
>>340830798
I don't know any of the lore, really.
I remember him from WC3 and making him move around on the map and thinking how stupid it was he could see shit with a bandanna on.
ThenI played WoW, got the burning crusade expansion and stopped when done with it.
He was some raid boss that some custom server let me beat solo and I got his awesome really crappy looking weapons.
Why the fuck do people care about this guy so much? I'm being serious. He's the Saskue, Vegeta, and Shadow of WoW. Right? He's just some edge lord.
>darkness and shit, you dont know my pain
Crap like that.
