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>It's yet ANOTHER six enemy Torbjorn's on defense
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>It's yet ANOTHER six enemy Torbjorn's on defense episode

It's actually fucking stupid how common this is now. It's pure anti-fun for the attackers, and unless you have a team of fiends or people who talk (Nobody talks, literally nobody!) you're completely fucked.
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>>340797910
Was it on volskaya?
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>>340798012
It was consecutively on Anubis and Route 66. Although I've seen i now on every nap that isn't KOTH. And while we're on the subject of broken balance; you can also use three Winston's on any KOTH map and win fairly easily.

Balance wise, the whole game is utter trash.
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So, none of your team thought to take Lucio, Hanzo, or Widowmaker and fuck that shit up?
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>>340798938
>Widowmaker
>Being useful ever

Widow would be broken if there was a TDM mode, but there isn't. For current modes she's totally useless. Even her wall hack is pointless most of the time, since most of the opposing team is stacked and will kill anybody stupid enough to try anything. Stop pretending you're useful, because you're not.

Every time I see a widow when I'm dead it's some faggot moving from side to side at the back of the map never shooting anything. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
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>>340799541
Shh bro your console is showing
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>>340799935
>Widow main detected

Protip: You're shit and reason your team loses 80% of the time. The other 20% could win without you even being on the team in the fist place.
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>>340800197
Said the shitter being wiped to all-Torbjorn
get better anon
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>>340797910
Play shitty game get shitty results
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>>340800384
Did I touch a nerve? You're shit, m8. You're the opposite of useful, since you're actually detrimental to the teams success.
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>>340799541
You know jackshit about this game or you're on console. Or both. 2 Widows with tracers/genjis shits on the 6 torb cheese. Or just 6 Pharas.

And a decent Widow is strong as fuck, you're delusional if you think otherwise.
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>>340800772
At the same time, a shit Widow is like having someone who doesn't exist. 5 on 6 is impossible.
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>>340797910
nobody talks because youre supposed to play with friends you dip
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>>340800859
That applies to any hero.
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>>340799541
>For current modes she's totally useless

ah, no wonder you struggle with torbjorn. you are clearly an ignorant shitter.

time to kill yourself, retard!
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>>340799541
>Widowmaker
>Not broken

A sniper that does 150-175 body shots and has an assault rifle is broken. You have to be playing on console for 6-Torbjorn to be a massive problem.

You could Pharah but that requires you to aim as well. The easiest thing would probably be a multiple D.Va w/ Defense Matrix -> Boost.
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>>340801147
>Point B of Volksaya Industries
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>>340797910
His turrets are ridiculous, if you even have an inch of them in your view they lock on like an aimbot and track you perfectly, perfect turn speed and everything, impossible to ambush
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>>340801147
whiny shitters like this kid won't be satisfied until a character they are too stupid to deal with ends up being reduced to a hobbling cripple whose ability to make it outside of the spawn point would be considered a resounding success.

problem
exists
between
keyboard
and
chair

learn to play, faggot retard
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>Bat thread
>This many retards couldn't figure it out
Wow.
Torb's turrets only problems are:
1. Instant lockon and fire with no time to react
2. 40 METER RANGE
The thing only has 300 HP.
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>>340799541
did u fucking monkey say that Widow is shit? Pls tell me you are playing on console
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>>340800596
Nope, but a lot of implication out of you though. Keep crying about torbjorns.
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>>340801802
>Bat
Bait.
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junkrat? farah? hell even widowmaker can just snipe them down. are you stupid?
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>>340797910
>not countering with a few Mei's.
Nigger are you ever gonna git gud?
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>>340800596
You wot m8?
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>>340797910
>your Torbjorn cant into proper turret placement
>keeps trying to build in front of the payload
>keeps trying to build in the middle of a firefight
You guys need to get your shit together.
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>>340803113

where should they (I) be building it?
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>>340801802
>his turret should have to be manually aimed by the user in order for it to be fair

what a fucking crybaby bitch

kill yourself shit head
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>>340797910
Git gud
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>>340797910
Pick Pharah, Junkrat, Hanzo, Widowmaker.

Win.
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>>340798583
I really hope ranked takes out hero stacking. There is no real way to balance the game if there is.
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>it's yet another autist episode

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/torb2-1200x671/
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>>340803356
High ground in a place where there are no long sightlines for snipers.
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>>340797910
TF2 never had this problem because the maps themselves allowed you to shit on any group that did. Feels good knowing Activision Blizzard can't even make proper FPS maps with all the money in their jew vaults
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>it's a 'enemy Widow is on fire keeping your entire team in check and not a single motherfucker counter-picks to disrupt her, while you can't switch off your current role without fucking over the team completely' episode
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>>340797910
>still playing Overwatch
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>>340806392
>it's a "my team has 2 snipers and can't lockdown a single enemy Widowmaker" season
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>enemies go all torb
>friend goes rein
>me and other friend stand behind the sheild as S76/McFuck/etc.
>the turrets barely scratch rein's shield and die almost immediately

level 2 turrets do like 44 DPS and have 300 HP. Unless they molten core, which all you have to do to counter is hide ofr a few seconds, it's so easy to beat. It's really the reason why torb is a shit character in general. Too easy to beat with an ounce of coordination.
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I encountered this once. It's really easy to do with Zarya, Reinhard, junkrat, Pharah, widow or Hanzo.
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>>340801147
>You have to be playing on console for 6-Torbjorn to be a massive problem.
Yeah cause I'm sure facing 3+ Torbs on the payload finish line of Kings Row is just a blast for you, huh?
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>>340801802
>The thing only has 300 HP.
Yes, and most of the time, the player who built it is nearby and can easily fix it or just set up a new one.
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>>340807797
Congrats on having friends but nobody online wants to work together. They just wanna bumrush like it's CoD or Halo deathmatch.
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>losing to 6 of one of the worst heroes in the game


HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA RETARDS, I cant even imagine how fucking GARBAGE you must be at the game to even lose a single life to Torbjorn! a team of 6 torbjorns is a free win, how fucking bad can you be?
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>play of the game
>q
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I guess this is fun for the defenders like once but why keep doing it. The most fun in the game is varied teams, no stackings and the most important roles filled. Why do people insist on using cancer set ups instead of actually trying to display some skill and interesting play?
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>>340801802
>The thing only has 300 HP.
There's only six actual characters that can match that claim you know.
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So how would you defeat 6 turrets?
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>>340809791
All u gotta do is git gud brah hehehe (:
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>Playing the other night attacking on anubis
>entire game enemy team has two torjborns and two symmetras, the last two switching between whatever they feel like
This shit was fucking impossible to beat. Nonstop teleporters for the enemy team, the symmetras were butt buddying up so they had a fucking ridiculous amount of laser turrets in one spot, and the torjborns were nonstop repairing their turrets until they got their ults, while everyone defended them.
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>>340809340
This is a game for people who only get enjoyment out of numbers. All that matters is player kills.

It doesn't matter if there's any technical level or skill involved in it, as long as the elimination word flashes on their screen their boner twitches a little.

This is why ults are defended. People want easy ways to get lots of numbers on the screen.
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>He literally can't stop giving you free damage
>You can aoe his turrets out of their line of sight
>Blue hp regening all the damage he deals

Check your privilege at the door.
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>>340810002
I guess you're right, the elitist Widowmakers everywhere stand testament to this. Personally I wish they never existed. They are very rarely fun and just serve as a substitute for player skill as long as two characters with good ult synergy can agree to press q at the same time
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>>340801802
>only has 300 hp
And you lose 90% of your hp taking it out, and this is when literally no one shoots you during, and if the turret isn't being healed.

The majority of Torjborns place their turret next to some corner, and hide themselves behind it so you can't hit them while they nonstop repair the turret. It's fucking ridiculous that he can heal it so fucking much while it takes damage
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>>340809791
Rheinhart + Bastion(s) will out dps them while being untouchable to the shield. Otherwise you can play a sniper or a hero with a decent ranged attack and just pop out and shoot.
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>>340809791
>Rein stands in front of widow
>Genji reflects
>Phara with a mercy up her ass corner-peeks the things to death.
>Junkrat bounces pills off walls

Pick any number of them.
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>>340810210
thats how we beat a torb stack, went with zaryas, and junkrats and spammed those short little shits out of existence
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>tfw you'll never have a group of fiends
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Today we met
>3 thorbjorn
>1 Mercy
>1 Symmetra
>1 Zarya
On Hanamura.
It was pure fucking cancer just trying to get in. Some form of turret everywhere. I'm sure it would be possible but I was playing healer and my teammates weren't able to do much.
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>>340810426
>>Rein stands in front of widow
And the turrets eat through his shield, while any damage teammates do to the turrets is quickly healed by torjborns
>Genji reflects
And gets murdered because the turrets are placed at different angles, not all in one spot
>Phara with a mercy up her ass corner peaks
This could work, but again the turrets are constantly being healed, and with 6 of them one person is bound to have an ult ready to fuck your shit with
>Junkrat bounces pills off walls
Definitely the safest option, a torb would have to come out and get you, leaving his turret. Though he could just reposition it
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>>340797910

>It's another 4 Genji's, 1 Lucio, and 1 Reinhardt attack episode that shits all over Torbjorn's turret episode

Oh wait, /v/ is too dumb to figure out a decent comp to counter 6 turrents. Funny how that works.
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>>340810703
Hanamura is already balanced heavily in favor of the defense, this kinda thing is just stupid
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>>340810559
I'd play with you. But I'm a console peasant playing the game on xbone
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>Enemy team has torbs
>I just shoot arrows at them and they're dead
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>>340801147
>You could Pharah but that requires you to aim as well.

Nah, you're thinking of Junkrats and Widows. Pharah gets shredded by turrets. Too many times I've pop shotted a turret, which requires the turret to light my ass up in the process, and by the time I heal up, toblerone has already healed the damage I've done to it.
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>>340811021
>turrents

STOP
WHY DO PEOPLE TO THIS
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>>340805612
What are you talking about? Stacked teams are easy to beat because you only need one or two counter classes to fuck them over.

A couple junkrats, pharas, or damage classes behind Reinhardt would shut that shit down.
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Why are the maps for assault game modes stacked so hard in the defending teams favor? Attacking on Hanamura, Anubis, and Volskaya is about as fun as eating glass.
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>>340810320
>>340810426
Rein's not a good choice because Torb's gun shreks shields

Multiple Pharahs with a Mercy or two are the best counter IMO
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>>340799541

>Widowmaker
>useless

Giga Keks you colossal faggot. She's one of the best support characters and middle grade attack you can have on your team. If buffed by Mercy, she cleans up shop. If you're struggling with her this badly, it's unquestionably because you just plain suck. Also, she's predominantly a sniper, which leads me to believe that you're on a console, as lining up shots is much harder there due to latency issues.
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>>340812232

Anubis is because the side channels for attack more often than not, put you below the attacker's view, which doubles their advantage and reduces yours. Also, the main point of entry is a giant fucking funnel, same with Volskaya. Hanamura on the other hand, I disagree; as there are multiple angles of attack both high and low. If you're having issues with Hanamura it's because you either are not taking advantage of the other angles of entry or your team is made up of retards, who all like to funnel down the middle for easy pickings.
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>attempts to destroy turrent

>torb ult'd and proceeds to slap my shit
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>>340800596
Not him, but gotta say, you're the one complaining about having trouble against a particular enemy team. He offered you a solution, and you essentially say you don't know how to use it (Or that it can't be used)
And now you're trying to talk shit about other people's skill levels?

You're kinda coming across as a dick, m80
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Can anyone give me the IP address for the SEA servers? Need to check my ping on Overwatch to see if I can actually play the game.
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>About to kill turret
>MOLTEN COOOOORE
>Full hp and fucks me up the ass
>Get behind cover
>About to kill it again
>Molten Core ends, it downgrades to lvl2
>This downgrade gives it full hp again
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>>340810559
>tfw I play with a single person most of the time and I have a crush on him
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>stomping team on Numbani on attack
>they panic and 2 switch to torb so there's 3 turrets and they win
>next round we're on defense and 5 of us go torb at the start
>they never get past first checkpoint

Multiple torbs is extremely broken
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>>340813268
>turrent
You might have gotten your shit slapped because you're underaged.
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>>340811687
>have a friend that says it like this irl as well
FUCK
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>>340801691
>every relevant pro is clamoring for widowmaker nerfs
>pro games are decided by the number of mercy resurrections and how many kills each widowmaker gets

Stay shit
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>>340797910
>switch to rienhardt
>use chat or a mic and tell everyone to switch to rienhardt
>just fly onto the point
6 members playing the same guy means they can be countered easily.
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>>340813657
lol gay
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>>340797910
Eyyy from a distance I thought his beard were a pair of tits with some uber cleavage going on, not cool luring me in here like this OP. Not cool.
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>>340811067
>tfw always have debated about making friends over /v/
>tfw no would be the perfect opportunity since Overwatch is new and popular
>can't do it cause I'm too afraid of attracting retarded redpilled autists and people who are shit at the game
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>>340817407
>afraid of meeting autists
>but also afraid they won't be good enough at the game
anon I got some bad news...
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He's getting an HP buff, right? Right?
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>>340817407
>retarded redpilled autists
There's a difference between being redpilled and being an autist about it though anon
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>>340817714
No I mean like social autists. I don't want somebody Skype calling me @ 4 in the morning cause they're having an anxiety attack because their waifu pillow ripped, or something.
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>>340817892
>using the shitty version of that image
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>>340818109
I'm sure you'll be fine. Just don't use skype. Find a public mumble server or some shit.
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>>340818109
>actually giving out skype to people you don't know in real life
It's pretty easy for them to get your ip address through that. Use mumble or teamspeak instead
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>>340818110
Please teach me the ways of Zenyatta
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>>340798938
>Widow on attack

So you're one of those people?
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>2 Reinhardt's
>Everyone else chooses either Widow, Hanzo, or Phara
>Having at LEAST 1 Lucio is optional

Not that hard OP.
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>>340797910
nigga I turned off voice communication after the first squeakers I got in game. I would rather play in silence than listen to randos. It's bad enough playing with these shitters, I'm never going to talk to them.
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>>340799541
holy shit I've never seen anybody so wrong since /pol/ circa 2008.

Widowmaker is literally the second-strongest hero next to McFree. The charge time to get her sniper rifle is absurdly short, and not only can she one-shot almost anybody with a headshot, a full-charged bodyshot will bring most heros insanely low. Her ult charges insanely fast, and assault rifle is way too strong for a sniper to have. She's better than Hanzo in literally every conceivable way.
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>>340799541

opinion discarded, fucking ignoramus
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>>340819110
So you must be shit as well if you're playing with shitters then too?
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>>340802208
Junkrat and a Widow with good aim are legit counters, but Pharah get destroyed by turrets.

Also Point B of Volskaya needs more entry points, it's essentially a free win for the defense. This applies to Anubis B as well.
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>>340819502
>3/4 entry points aren't enough
Volskaya on attack isn't that difficult when on Point B, all it takes is a Reaper, Genji, or Tracer to get inbetween the point and spawn, and they're fucked. I agree about Anubis though, might be the worst map to be attacking on this side of Hanamura.
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>>340815981
You can't charge with your shield up, are you thinking of d.va?
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>>340800384
>>340800596
>>340800197
I didn't know this board had threadID
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>>340797910
Check out this play you turbo nerds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrKog_S2hJI
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>>340819912
>tirofina1e
can't even be mad at that
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>>340819656
Volskaya B's entry point is a big ol' chokepoint, I don't think that it's as bad as Anubis but it's way too easy to defend.
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>>340819656
>Hanamura
>Hard on attacking

Literally how?
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>>340819984
Mumi a shit and so is Toblerone
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>>340820221
Both side entry points have good health pickups scattered around, so providing the defenders are retarded enough to just sit in the same spot shooting at you, you can just keep poking at them until you pick off one or two, then have you tank, or anyone with a charged ulti come in the main way with a support and you're set. Getting the jump on them is also pretty easy with people like Reaper or Genji if you can jump round to the side to get behind them. Provided you can take out any turrets/snipers/bastion's you see, then they're left with pretty much no major defences. Unless they're pocketing a Lucio with his charged ulti.

>>340820228
>Capture Objective A
>Defenders immediately swap to 2 Torbjorn's, a Bastion, Widowmaker, and a Lucio
Thus begins 8 minutes of hell.
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>>340809791
Pharah
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>>340799541
Dude me and 2 others rolled Widowmaker on the current weekly brawl and kept a point from the very start. no one on the other team even touched it.
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>>340797910
I was against this on anubis yesterday. I just played lucio, got my ult ready, told my team to group with me, then I just ulted and we destroyed all the turrets and torbs and got the point. Then I turned on speed and we rushed the next point before the torbs could even get set up and won in a couple of minutes.
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>>340820823
Pharah has to be out in the open too long and gets shredded, should've said Junkrat or D.Va
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>>340821385
DVA really fucking shreds tolberones turrets and he cant do shit about it
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>>340819912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIwP0iZV-e0
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