$199 USD DOLLARS
AMD, because you're too poor for Nvidia.
Ok
I'm torn
On the one hand, that looks amazing.
On the other, I've grown accustomed to all the features nVidia puts in their cards and software. I really like Shadowplay, for example.
I just don't know, man
Honestly, I wish it had more power for 1440p.
I'm probably going to be waiting till fall for their more powerful offering anyway.
"ATM machine"
>>340790654
>15-20% less powerful than the 1070
>but the 1070 is $200-250 more
>mfw AMD did it, they made a perfect and affordable and low power 1080p card
>mfw in Australia the RX480 will probably retail for $310-330 AUD (199-220 USD) meanwhile the GTX 1070 is $699-799 AUD (500-600 USD) and absurdly overpriced.
I've got money but fuck Nvidia. RX480 then waiting for RX490 vega it is.
>>340790864
Yeah, Shadowplay is great. It's an absolute must if you stream/record FPS gameplay as NVFBC has zero overhead/input latency. AMDs solution adds lots of overhead.
>>340790864
There's a lot of recording options if you have AMD
I use plays.tv, it gets the job done just fine. Only gripe is you have to upload highlights to save them but that takes like 5 minutes most times so it's not a big deal.
>>340791154
POO
>>340791163
>the reason to buy nvidia is this recording feature and other gimmick!
Nvidia fanboys are so sad. They don't even care about their hardware.
I really don't trust that this card will completely fine, there's some catch to it that I'm sure is gonna be discovered and I'm not gonna get rused. Next week I'm just gonna go buy a 390.
>>340790864
Afterburner is a great substitute.
>>340790654
>yfw you just now realized it's "Rad-E-On", and not "Ray-Don"
>>340791325
>buying a 26nm card in 2016
JUST
The RX480 is a 290x/390/980 tier card with 14nm finfets and lower power.
You'd be absolutely retarded to buy any 26nm card right now.
>>340791295
DESIGNATED
>>340790654
CF is notoriously awful in DX11
How is it in DX12?
If they can actually manage to reduce frametimes, microstutter etc, perhaps 480 CF would actually be a viable alternative to a single Pascal card.
>>340791510
LOO
>>340791324
It's not the only reason to buy nVidia, but like I said, if you record or stream, AMD provides no alternative.
>all this nvidia astroturfing and damage control after the RX480 announcement
This shit is hilarious. Whenever a thread is made about the 480 on either /g/ or /v/ it gets bombarded by desperate nvidia shills. It's way too obvious.
At least I know I definitely made the right choice not falling for the manufactured 1070 hype and decoded to get a 480.
>>340791728
Stop spreading misinformation you cock gargling dog. VCE and NVENC are the same shit. You can record via OBS with zero performance hit in both cards.
Not that anyone with taste would record via a shitty hardware encoder when x264 exists, but I guess your piece of shit i3/FX chip couldn't handle that.
>>340790654
affordable
what is your problem?
fucking top notch cards cost like a grand.
>>340790654
>U.S. Dollar Dollars
>>340791813
Well if you're not living on food stamps you generally prefer to buy a GPU that has power more in line with today's standards rather than 5 years ago.
>>340790654
>>340792005
Bzzzt, wrong.
NVFBC is the only method that is 100% zero latency/overhead.
VCE adds around 16ms of input latency. Good luck with that.
>>340790731
Nvidia, because you´re too retard to optimum price/performance ratio.
>Had to buy a reference 1070 because I need a GPU asap and I didn't want to buy an older card
Eh, I would've waited for the 480 but whatever. I hope it ends up being worth it.
>>340792005
It's not about performance, it's about overhead from poor API injection methods, you dolt.
>>340791154
adored tv confirmed that it's going to be near 50% slower than a gtx 1070. amd fanboys love posting his videos and they call him the only correct source so he can't be wrong, right?
he said it's ~50% slower so that's final. 480x confirmed to be under-powered garbage.
>>340792630
>50%
hahahahahah more like 10-15% nvidia drone.
Enjoy your overpriced garbage.
>>340791728
correct. i'm honestly not lying when i say that loads of my friends have ditched amd for nvidia literally because of shadowplay support. it's a bigger factor in nvidia sales than people like to believe.
>>340790654
>tfw poor unifag
>had GTX 770 for years now, could not afford anything better
>heard about new NVIDIA cards
>finally, maybe i can get a budget one
>The 10X0 series is fucking amazing but prices are high as fuck again
So this is how an NVIDIAfag dies, buying a Radeon card for its price. I just hope it works allright with an Intel CPU
>>340792774
damage control. his own calculations showed it to be ~50%, and even though i dislike the guys videos he is the only person amd fanboys believe.
>>340791154
>>340792630
>>340792774
Its actually close to 50%. But hey its still a damn fine card for 200 bucks.
>>340792594
>>340792470
>>340792005
>>340791163
>hardware encoding
None of you actually do this, right? This is just an ironic conversation, right?
>>340792973
AMD works fine with Intel, and Nvidia works fine with AMD
>>340790654
It is powerful, yeah.
But does it have all the useful stuff nvidia cards have like shadowplay?
Should I get a 480 now or wait for Vega? Have a 7850 atm.
>>340793358
"""useful"""
>>340792973
My problem for AMD cards is that there are a billion workaround for shit coded games for Nvidia but almost none for AMD. And keep in mind games always release with a lot of bugs. Still, for only 199, its an awesome card. Just dont go SLI AMD, you will really regret that.
>>340790731
>>340792483
Brand whoring, because you're a retard.
>>340793225
i record stuff on my 980 using shadowplay all the time. a cool feature of shadowplay is similar to what the newer consoles have, it records in the background and when you hit a button it saves the last 30 seconds of gameplay (or however long you set it to). and it has no performance hit. pretty cool stuff.
>>340790654
>not already having a 290 when they dropped down to ~£200 eighteen months ago.
I want to get off this graphics train, but fuck the prices these days
I'm a poorfag and I'm considering getting the 480.
The thing is, I never plan on using Windows 10, and thus, DirectX 12.
Is it still worth it? If not, what's the best I can get in that price range?
>>340793960
which country?
>>340793843
And the quality is fucking garbage. What CPU do you have kiddo? Do yourself a favor and record via software in OBS if your CPU can handle it. Even better do crf=0 to get lossless mode then encode it properly later.
>>340790654
>US dollar dollars.
is this a new meme, like RIP in peace?
>>340791521
that's just the radeon experience. it's a decade old feature.
>>340794054Spain.
>>340793154
>Two of them beating a 1080 with only half the potential tapped
>One of them is 50% with all the potential tapped
That doesn't quite add up senpai.
>>340793740
Why no SLI? I heard that it works allright with NVIDIA cards. I was thinking about saving up and buying another 480 later on
>>340793960
The best at the moment is either the R9 380 or the 960.
Even in Windows 7, if it support that, the 480 is worth it because it promises performance above a 390.
That is IF they deliver what they are promising.
>>340794385
did you not see the chart?
>>340791521
it's not rare for amd to have shitty frametime, especially in crossfire.
>>340793960
Yes, it will be under GTX 980 and wont be as effective as GTX 970 because >AMD but it will be a solid card for $200.
>>340794475
>tfw 380
>want 480 but it's stupid to upgrade less than a year after getting a new card
>>340793960
absolutely not. amd has fucking terrible drivers that will rape your cpu.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=398858
>>340794079
>quality is fucking garbage
>record via software
>record lossless video
leave.
>>340794079
>I have no idea what I'm talking about and I must shitpost
>tfw old card died and i bought a 390 like 7 months back
>>340794385
You will find yourself spending more time fixing shit and trying to get the perfect performance than playing vidya, and thats on Nvidia. AMD has a lot more shit going on in their cards which sadly lack the fixes Nvidia has, its always been the same story. Sooner or later you will come across that game who refuses to work properly no matter what you do. Just get one 480 and you will do fine for some years.
>>340794290
they beat the 980 ti in a very specific case scenario. 3dmark xfire benches have been released and they're no where near 1080 performance. i think it was an ever lower score than a 1070 if i recall correctly, but that could be due to drivers.
a single 480x is 50% slower than a 1070.
>>340792630
>50%
Fuck off with your lies
>>340794826
>>340794793
Nothing new, AMD drones literally know nothing other than the price of GPUs.
>>340790654
The price looks really good, so I might upgrade to it.
So I guess Shadowplay is the only thing nvidia has going for them now?
>>340795157
It's not 50%
Do people seriously buy AMD? I mean if you're going to build a gaming computer why would you cheap out and buy a inferior product instead of just saving your money a little longer. I mean seriously if you're gonna be cheap just buy a console
>>340795342
Better support of Gameworks, too
Want to see how effective it is? wait atleast 2 weeks after release for aftermarket cards and see how good the reference cards performance was.
>>340795162
>barbiecar
>not Anastacia_of_Astora
come on anon
Is it time for me to upgrade, /v/?
always had nvidias, now i have my first amd, r9 285, and never, i say NEVER fall for the amd meme.
drivers are fucking horrible, fan control almost never works. no problem right? you can set custom fan control in msi afterburner for instance? nope because for some reason every other time it resets all my afterburner settings.
when there is a critical bug in software you have to wait at least month for them to fix it.
everytime i try to install drivers always one component is going to fail.
its just not worth it.
performance is worse because games are made for nvidia.
>>340795162
the gtx 1070 is 41% faster in ashes of the singularity, which is a game that is very favorable to amd hardware. in dx11 and in neutral games, the performance difference will increase hence why its is predicted to be ~50% faster than a 480x.
>>340795362
everyone has to buy at least two amd cards before they realize they've been wasting their money.
>>340795647
nah. maybe get a ssd or a cheap 950 if you can find a deal on it. otherwise you're fine.
>>340795717
double the price for 41% more performance isn't worth it
>>340795717
So it really is just a half price 960/970 with the usual QUALITY drivers and game support.
>>340795717
>Being retarded
>Can't even read that the RX 480s are reaching 51% efficiency compared to the 1080's 98.7%
Jesus you're retarded.
>>340795717
http://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse#/personas/b0db0294-8cab-4399-8815-f956a670b68f/match-details/8b748568-fc96-4e48-9fed-22666a7149f5
Nice source on those framerates m8.
>>340795717
>41% faster
>With 14 point out of 48 difference
what
>>340790731
Nvidia, because gimping last year's cards is OK when my favorite company does it!
>>340796023
Of course its not. We are talking about performance, not money. If money is your issue clearly the 480 is for you. If not, 1070.
>>340790731
Nvidia, because even when AMD has better specs for less money you gotta call other people poor and buy the worse product because it's what Pewds uses
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/11257751/3dm11/11263084/3dm11/11263252/3dm11/11167887/3dm11/11167781#
3DMark 11 benchmarks
+ Fire Strike Ultra from an asian guy who broke NDA
>>340795816
Er, not really.
>ATI wastes money on shit like trueform in the 90s
>ATI caught faking AF in the 90s
>ATI caught faking AA in the 90s
>ATI caught trying to do their own "gameworks" and instead fucking up texture quality in the 90s in order to make games run faster
Do you think they stopped being shitheads? No, they stopped getting caught as much.
AMD/ATI products have always been inferior with the exception of the radeon 9800 generation.
>>340796351
>they're going forward with the shitty meme names like FURY and RAGE
>>340790864
>being a let's player
Let's see your channel
>>340796351
here are the other cards' fire strike ultra scores
>>340796283
even if money isn't a major issue, it's just not worth it.
if you have money it's because you don't buy stupid things and are good with your money
>>340796095
>xfire utilization
are you thick? he's talking about the performance of a single card so that xfire gpu utilization is not even comparable.
>>340791004
Even though the 980ti has a gear of drivers under its belt, the 480 still is nipping at its heels for $199. That's pretty nice.
>>340790654
Any reputable benchmarks?
Then fuck off.
Unlike nvidiots i want specs and benchmarks to make decisions with, not cheap fucking shilling.
You get a sage. Id send you some tranny meds and a dragon dildo, ala domino pizza style, but you already have both.
>>340796219
It's not right that they did that but you really can't blame them. They are a business with zero competition. Of course they are going to try and maximize profits
>bought a 280 one year ago hoping i would get a good processor fast enough to make it worth the buy (currently on a Celeron G1840 with 4GB of ram and a 5400rpm hard drive so i'm far from getting the full performance of the card)
>even 970s / 390(x)s are starting to get behind in performances because of all the new graphical options
;_;
>>340796634
3DMark isn't a viable benchmark when it comes down to comparing the performance of two cards in regular gaming
>>340790654
>You need 2 RX to get the same level of performance
>>340796023
>>340796046
>>340796095
>>340796171
>>340796209
you do know that the guy who made the video is heavily biased towards amd right? he even made a 2 part series about how amd will dominate the market and run nvidia and intel out of business in coming years. so if anything he's actually being biased towards amd with his calculations.
>>340796629
>have a 5400 rpm hard drive
>buy a video card first
the hard drive is the single most important element of the user experience in a computer. waiting on shit to load= waiting on shit to load. wasting time. every single time you ever do anything on the computer, pretty much ever.
>>340791154
>it is another convict complaining about pricing in vidya
you're all just as bad as hue hues.
>>340796023
>$250 msrp = 8gb 480x
>$379 msrp = 8gb 1070
that's not double the price. you're paying nearly 70% of the price of a 1070 and getting only about 50% of the performance.
I don't know why you dumb fucks still think Polaris is supposed to compete with Pascal. If you have a 390/980 or better the RX 480 isn't an upgrade. Two 480s would probably beat a 1070 and rival a 1080, IF CF WAS WORTH A FUCK, but it's not. Multi-gpu is trash and your second card will be an idling paperweight 80% of the time.
480 is a great card for people just now building a mid-range PC but for anyone that has a high end rig built any time in the past two years it is pointless.
>>340790864
>>340791163
>>340791327
>>340796452
When did /v/ become nothing but youtubers?
You lads any good? lets seem them channels.
Was looking for the cheapest 1070.
Do you even vape?
>>340792630
>adored tv
t. redditor and amd fanboy
get the fuck out
1070 is like 520 euros in finland
if 480 is <230 euros its a clear winner
>>340790654
oh the reddit leak showed that the 8gb version would probably be 280€ in germany
>>340796349
>because even when AMD has better specs for less money
Blatant lying. The 480 is basically a 390 for $230 dollars (8gb version).
>>340797670
amd brought this upon themselves when they claimed the 480x should compete against a 1080. it doesn't matter if they used xfire or not, the fact they made that comparison has caused all of this and will eventually be their downfall.
>>340790654
Can I please be updated on the subject?
Where is the 470?
>>340798238
it was like $380 if i remember correctly
>>340795717
>>340793154
Where you niggas getting 50% from? 1070 will only be 20-25% faster than the 480.
1070 is the same speed as the 980 ti, 480 will be slightly faster than 980 non ti
>>340796351
>>340796459
This leak also shows the 480 will be faster than the 980, and that was running at 1080mhz core clock. On release its running at 1260~
>>340798068
I miss the android women with silver skin
>>340796835
If i hadn't bought a graphic card there's tons of games i couldn't have played. Loading time can go fuck themselves when without a GPU i couldn't play anything at all, except source games
>>340796795
>2cards that cost less then and run better then one Nshidia
>>340798238
>>340798459
sorry i was wrong. it was 338 euro
>>340798526
>480 will be slightly faster than 980 non ti
holy shit they actually believe the things they're posting
>>340790654
>480
>mfw I have a 750
Bigger number = Better card. Why would I want something with almost 300 lower graphics?
>>340796423
Nice fanboyism
>AMD/ATI products have always been inferior with the exception of the radeon 9800 generation.
4xxx series? Absolutely rekt the gtx 280, nvidia had to half the price of the gtx 280 like 6 weeks after release.
7xxx series? 7970 smashed the 580 on release and outlasted the 680. 780ti/780 forgotten and slow as 960 in some games while the 290/x is as fast as a 970.
>>340798526
>1070 is the same speed as the 980 ti
>>340798727
>twice as many parts to fail
anyone who has ever worked with computers, electronics, or anything else expensive or complicated, for any serious amount of time, will tell you to have as few points of failure as possible.
this is just common sense.
this is AMD losing the war. They couldn't even produce a "flagship" card this generation that can directly compete. They pretty much gave up (they don't have the R&D money)
>>340798807
>>340798787
You living under a rock? All the leaks and benchmarks point to it being between the 980 and nano. If its under that performance then there is literally no point to the card, you could of got a 970 or 390 a year ago.
Difference is they dont charge a fortune for a die shrink so it looks like well good value compared to nvidia.
>>340798843
You can buy a 980 with the amount of money you save by not using the pressure cooker 290x.
>>340798843
yeah sorry i stopped paying attention after they became irrelevant and blacklisted forever.
it's not great for me as a consumer but i won't even consider amd hardware. "fanboy" all you want...really it comes down to having the money to do your hobby or not. some of you dont belong :)
>>340798925
>B.B.B.BUT MUH FLAG SHIP MUH MORE THINGS TO FAIL DELETE THIS NOW NVIDEA > AMD
>>340798146
Some retails anon leaked the 8gb 480 at €220 pretax. It sucks but it's not like the 1070 or 1080 sell anywhere close to rrp in europe either.
>>340799062
Showing off the fanboyism again, bet you didnt say a peep about 1080 thermal throttling on a $700 card.
What about Titan X 90c?
>>340798059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwjM0jF6pJc
So how powerful is the 480 anyway?
So far everyone's just comparing it to the 1070.
Can I expect it to be better than a 380x or something?
>>340799019
>All the leaks and benchmarks
i wonder whose responsible for those
how come there aren't pure silicon numbers?
that's what i don't understand..you kids go back and forth back adn forth about benchmarks, which are meaningless and in the case of the ones AMD likes to flex, usually synthetic and hence doubly meaningless
if you have the numbers on the silicon..transistor count etc, you know what the performance is. period. so why doesn't AMD release these numbers, when nvidia releases them months in advance?
>>340799221
It's equivalent to a 390x
>>340799114
>having twice as many parts to fail isn't a hugely significant drawback
>doesn't take up twice as much space in your case
>doesn't create a far worse thermal profile in your case because of blocking airflow extra turbulence and heat being emitted from a larger area
go ahead and buy em nobodys stopping you but it just seems like a chump thing to do...they failed and could not produce a flagship card this generation, they are pretty much going bankrupt right now it would seem
>>340798925
It's not even that, the fact is that multi GPU has a long history of being poorly supported, buggy and a pain in the ass.
SLI and CF both suck a turd. Suggesting 2 cards over a single card is silly even if 2 perform better in a small handful of situations.
Americans have it easy.
>>340795361
>3d mark
What is game performance?
>>340799245
>i wonder whose responsible for those
uh, people who get the cards and leak them? The cards are already reported to be in stock, not surprising that an enthusiast will sneak one out and do some tests. Happens all the time. Also if you're saying Firestrike isnt reliable then you dont benchmark at all, literally everyone uses it.
>when nvidia releases them months in advance?
the fuck are you babbling about, we had no information on the 1080 or 1070, NOTHING, until that presentation a month ago which had *VR* benchmarks
>>340799086
Conversely there are some who prefer to give a little thought to their spending. I don't begrudge someone spending money on their hobbies, but it's irksome when people can make their money go so much further than just buying or falling for halo product marketing.
For example 2nd hand car markets, not falling for the flagship phone yearly replacements, getting radeon pros instead of XT for 90% of the performance for 66% of the cost etc.
I've never used an AMD card before, but I'm seriously tempted to get a 480. My GTX 560Ti is long in the tooth and I need to upgrade.
>all this nvidia shilling
God damn, I thought cornering the normie audience would be enough to keep nvidia happy.
>>340799615
you're right, i don't use synthetic benchmarks at all. they're meaningless.
>NOTHING
Actually, we had leaded transistor counts from the fabs, but you don't read sites like hardocp where news on this type of stuff is actually posted.
You've never even heard of hardocp. Do you even benchmark, bro?!?!?!
>>340790654
Will a new GPU even help me? Will I notice improvements or will my CPU still bottleneck everything? I can't even edit 1080p/30fps video at this point.
>>340799086
I have a 980 you donut, I just hate people who spout nonsense about AMD.
My next card will definitely be AMD as I cant stand nvidias fanboy crowd, as bad as apples
>>340799635
I'm one of the most careful spenders I know, and that fact is the reason why AMD will never, ever be under consideration. The products are blanket inferior, and always have been.
You have to pay for quality sometimes. BTW let me tell you a story.
>big bro tries to give me his 7970
>uh...it's amd but it's faster than mine
>put it in
>start playing dota
>texture errors on the ground.
First time an AMD card has touched my system in over 10 years, first game I tried to play. Texture artifacting.
That's the AMD experience.
>>340790654
>USD DOLLARS
>USD = US Dollars
>199 United states dollar dollars
Wut
>>340790731
Mac, because you're too poor for PC :^)
>>340799805
enjoy learning your lesson bro.
>>340799746
There are uses to synthetics for comparing within architecture gains and OC gains.
Generally they all favour nvidia cards for over all score. And then there was gcn1.2 vs gcn1.3 where 280 matched with the 285, but certain games threw the scores out for various reasons.
>>340790731
I bet you buy Apple products
>>340799019
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11257751
here's the leaked benchmark.
and now here's a comparison to a gigabye g1 gaming 970
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8972269
it's graphics score is literally worse than a cheap, factory overclocked gtx 970.
stop believing wccftech and do some research for yourself.
>>340799746
Nope. You said we had info months before for nvidias cards.
1080 was announced out of no where 6th of May and released 27th. Everyone was expecting Polaris to be launched first.
where are the benchmarks
>>340800151
Not to mention it isnt even in stock anywhere, nvidia rushed the launch of the 1080/1070
Still in paper launch mode
>>340791813
Nobody, and I mean nobody gives a fuck about your AMD card that probably will manage to run slower than 970 gtx
>damage control
Is that what you call an AMD shill posting same threads every day and shitposting in Nvidia threads?
I bought a 1070.
Jelly, amd poorfags?
>>340799245
because amd are hiding something. why would they ban all reviews till the actual release date? if their cards were so amazing why not build up hype earlier? nvidia did that weeks before the 1080 release and its already sold out due to the hype.
like i said, i think amd are hiding something and i'm now starting to believe that kyle from hardocp is actually on to something. i personally think the polaris numbers weren't up to snuff hence all the secrecy. it's all starting to add up.
>>340790731
I bet you like fires don't you?
>>340800228
oh yeah then explain how I have a 1080
in my house
that I boughtLMAOing at your life
>>340799902
First 480 my brother bought exploded, doesnt mean I will avoid them forever
Everyone has bad experiences
>>340798769
>Lt
why is this showing currency that doesn't exist?
>>340799695
I think pretty much everyone that is still on 1080p and has cards older than the 970/390 will be getting a 480
>>340800431
personal experiences aren't relevant. I look at the reality of game support, driver support, etc.
Not releasing a flagship to go after nvidia's flagship 1:1 suggests heavy engineering woes and a company that is financially failing. A lot of people here simply don't understand that.
Rest assured this looks *bad* to people in the industry and all people can think is "muh cheap FPS" when the 480 is a possible indicator that the company is failing.
However, if the card delivers the performance for the price, it'll be a blockbuster for a lot of people. It simply isn't for me-- an IT professional who expects the best, and as few issues as possible.
>>340800228
If you really wanted it, you should have gotten up at like 6am like everyone on the west coast.
Mine arrives tuesday.
>>340800431
Are you telling me your brother obtain a card that isn't even released and it exploded?
>>340800001
Learning what? Had a 7950 previously which was fantastic.
Friendly reminder that AMD made same exact threads about 390 until they got btfo as usual by terrible drivers, devs favoring Nvidia cards in their AAA games and overheating issues that come with a rebranded card.
>>340799902
I don't know then, I use a lot of nvidia cards at work and amd at home and get the same amount of issues. Which is to say almost none, probably slightly more on nvidia cards, but I spend too much time at work and the nature of the software is prerelease.
A couple of years ago I'd get radeon crashes (driver restarts) when running 15 or so youtube tabs in firefox. More recently it was 352/355 nv drivers giving more crash to desktops in 3d programs. Compared to 15 years ago, both companies are miles ahead of the windows 2000/XP days, but all drivers back then were shitty.
Even today most drivers apart from LAN and graphics seem to be naff. Printers and wireless headsets still give trouble a lot of the time.
>>340800550
I have an old 570 and ordered a 1070.
>>340800397
founders "mug" edition? $100 more for thermal throttling at base boost clocks, nice
![GeForce_GTX_480_3qtr[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/44C7mqk.jpg "GeForce_GTX_480_3qtr[1].jpg")
>>340800686
bruh.
Should I just stay with my current card?
>>340798059
I use Afterburner to check my FPS and temps and to record webms you colossal retard.
>>340800668
Nah man I'd rather they do a proper launch and have proper stock at decent prices, not just FE cards which no one wants and the rest on pre-order at least in the UK. In two months there will be competition, price cuts and games bundled with the cards.
>>340800753
the thing that officially keeps me from considering them is big game launches not working/not working correctly on AMD. It happens every year at least once and usually 2-3 times.
AMD managed to kill Rage halfway themselves with their non-compliant OpenGL driver, and then everyone blamed carmack. Hilarious.
>>340800787
a proper fan curve keeps the max temp at 70c and even at 100% I can't hear it because I didn't buy some meme case
>>340800946
>which no one wants
THEN WHY CAN'T I FUCKING GET ONE GODDAMMIT
>>340800649
>First time an AMD card has touched my system in over 10 years, first game I tried to play. Texture artifacting.
?? thats a personal experience lol
>>340800804
I miss box arts of sexy alien/robot ladies.
>>340791154
Good luck being screwed, Nvidia will use their money to partner up with devs and selectively forget optimization for your graphics card.
>>340800686
>>340801073
uh yeah MY personal experiences are relevant you fucking idiot. Not yours
>>340800763
for 1080p? thats a waste, new gen 16nm $400 gpu to play on old 1080p
if you're gonna splash that much on a gpu at least get a decent 1440p monitor
>>340796613
>you really can't blame them.
The fuck I can faggot. Why shouldn't I expect better for the price I'm paying? I've had my 660ti for almost 6 years now with absolutely no problems, and I didn't update my drivers when I heard about them gimping old cards. One of the main reasons I didn't update was because of my experience with my android phone; unless you are buying it from directing from google the OS updates might not even be available for your phone. It's a shitty practice that forces people to upgrade their phones since more and more apps will stop working on their old OS. Forced obsolescence is bullshit and should be illegal because you are essentially renting rather than owning it.
Dark Souls III opened my eyes to Nvidia's bullshit. I updated my Drivers thinking I'd get more stable frames, but it dropped me from 55-60fps on medium/high setting to 20-30 and as soon as I reverted to my older drivers my frames were back to acceptable. When I upgrade in 2-3 years I'll be going with AMD because Nvidia is clearly thinking more about their bottomline than us consumers. Vote with your wallet because even if Nvidia didn't have competition, it wouldn't be able to make money if we don't buy their products.
>>340801334
I've ordered 144hz.
1080p is enough for me, now I hunt framerate.
>>340801027
they rushed the launch to get ahead of AMD, no stock anywhere
9xx series launch was great, had all types of cards available at reasonable prices on launch day
>>340801386
>I didn't update my drivers when I heard about them gimping old cards.
cringe
>but it dropped me from 55-60fps on medium/high setting to 20-30 and as soon as I reverted to my older drivers my frames were back to acceptable.
outright bald faced lying detected
>>340801210
>personal experiences aren't relevant.
>uh yeah MY personal experiences are relevant you fucking idiot. Not yours
aka nvidia lapdog
>>340801131
>You will never be a poor 12yo again walking into your local PC shop thinking "damn that boxart looks rad bet this card will be the bomb"
>>340801579
>it's somehow an issue that I don't care about your personal experiences but do use my own as a basis for decision making
this is what /v/ has come to.
>>340801010
>100% reference fan speed
no thanks
>>340801525
its probably not intention
drivers are impressively convoluted
reverting drivers can get games working just as much as updating drivers
>>340791154
The 1070 isn't going to be 500-600 USD, lol. Maybe like the founder ones.
>be technologically illiterate
>buy a HD 7850 cause that's what was recommended on logical increments
Every time some new GPU comes out I feel like I should actually learn what these little things actually do.
>>340801784
yeah hes saying he updated through like 50 driver revisions and yet he probably wasnt smart enough to use a program to completely wipe the old driver before installing
a guy chugging along on a 660 talking about getting a new video card in 2 years is a young teen (no money at all), so big surprise.
>>340801784
its not gimping (well, gameworks is, unnecessary tesselation etc)
its just nvidia doesnt optimise for older gens. Maxwell wont receive any more performance increases now that pascal is out while I bet the Fury/390x will keep receiving small boosts.
>>340801386
stop trying so hard. there's been overwhelming evidence from loads and loads of different people who have disproven this "gimping" shit. they've all found that percentage difference between old games with new and old drivers is margin of error shit like 1fps. there's no reduction in performance as people like to claim.
falseflaggers still have to post the same shit all the time though. probably that buyers remorse from investing into an inferior company.
>>340799902
I've had four graphics cards.
9600 GSO
gtx 260
gtx 470
gtx 760
first three were all used or hand me downs, 9600 was good starter card, 260 was pretty good. 470 had nice performance but was a fermi housefire and fuck awful drivers that would BSOD like fucking crazy, I'd have to jump on ctrl alt delete for that shit not to crash my entire computer.
Then I get my 760 and I have to downclock the core and memory clocks my 50 in afterburner for it to not crash in GTAV or Witcher 3. Even now GTAV is flakey as fuck on my card.
AMD can't be that bad if this is the kind of shit I've been dealing with.
Besides, now that the industry is moving to vulkan and dx12 there's not going to be much of a driver for AMD to fuck up in the first place.
>>340800649
>It simply isn't for me-- an IT professional who expects the best, and as few issues as possible.
>tfw had a 9800GT for the longest time
>tfw had a radeon 7850 for around a year until my friend needed it
>tfw have gtx 760 right now
>tfw upgrading to 480 soon
Life without brand loyalty is great.
>>340801525
>cringe
Using that word.
>outright bald faced lying detected
>it didn't happen to me so everyone else must be lying
Check the threads online for people trying to optimize their system to play DSIII.
>>340802112
>Then I get my 760 and I have to downclock the core and memory clocks my 50 in afterburner for it to not crash in GTAV or Witcher 3
RMA your card retard
every manufacturer has defective parts. Not taking care of this properly is SOLELY YOUR ISSUE.
>Besides, now that the industry is moving to vulkan and dx12 there's not going to be much of a driver for AMD to fuck up in the first place.
You don't know the difference between an API and a driver or what either of them does.
>>340801878
Well 1070 is £400 in the UK (£430+ for decent models), while the 480 8gb will be around £200-£230
20% slower for half the price, 480 will be the price/perf king for the next year or so. Cant see the 1060 being any good with nvidias pricing and the 960/760 sucking dick.
>>340802040
>he probably wasnt smart enough to use a program to completely wipe the old driver before installing
this. i was having these weird texture streaming issues and my fan profile kept bugging out. turned out that i simply needed to do a fresh install of the latest driver and everything has been fine ever since.
>>340802259
yes I can use the word "cringe" when I would have used it in the exact same context 10 years ago. Sorry that you don't get to regulate my speech because a normal word became overused among a group of young teens here.
>hurr durr check the threads
you updated through years of drivers and didn't use a driver cleaner first in safe mode, you stupid fuck. If you went back and did it correctly now you would see your framerate go UP.
>>340802108
its more that AMDs cards just aged better, especially with dx12
and they usually have a decent amount of vram while the nvidias cards will be seriously lacking, 680 2gb vs 7970 3gb, 680 doesnt have enough vram for most of todays titles
>>340795647
Wait for ZEN, if it's good value go for it, if it isn't atleast it should atleast drop the prices of Skylake a bit. Get a 6400, Z170 mobo, google how to OC locked skylake chips and enjoy enough performance for the next decade of gaming.
>>340790654
How does this rx480 compare to the R9 390?
>>340802603
they're roughly equal
>>340795647
jesus dude yes, how can you even play games like that
and heres me considering upgrading my i5 2500k to ZEN and my 970 to vega
>>340802430
>hurr durr check the threads
Not an argument
>>340802705
>buying AMD processors
oh no, they've lost all sanity
>>340795816
Funny, I bought 3 nVidia cards before going AMD. This is the first time I've ever really been satisfied with my purchase.
>>340802603
faster. Its slightly faster than the 980/390x but slower than the fury nano
>>340791649
WE DID IT REDDIT!
>>340802323
>while the 480 8gb will be around £200-£230
the sapphire model, which is always one of the cheaper ones is nearly £240. the msi, gigabyte, asus and all them will be even more expensive.
http://www.kikatek.com/P788949/21260-00-20G-SAPPHIRE-TECHNOLOGY-RADEON-RX-480?cPath=438
also, its nearer to ~50% slower, not 20% slower. a fury x is 20% slower at 1080p on average and everyone knows the 480 is being retailed at a performance bracket far lower than the furyx/980ti. it's closer to 390 level of performance.
>>340802769
I'm not arguing with you. We already determined that you're about 13 or 14 because you have a 660 and can't ugprade for two years.
We already determined that you didn't run a driver cleaner when updating through YEARS of driver revisions BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD TO.
YOU FUCKED UP YOUR OWN PERFORMANCE AND BLAMED YOUR IGNORANT BEHAVIOR ON A CORPORATION BECAUSE A LIGHT BLUE COMPUTER WEBSITE TOLD YOU TO
LOL
>>340802503
so you watched the hardware unboxed video then.
>>340802794
Im not buying another 4 core cpu from Intel. Zen is the way forward for me, if they can match haswell~, and have 8 cores+ for under $300
>>340802160
I also had a 9800GT for like 6 years and then upgraded to a 280x, also yeah fuck brand loyalty, its as bad as console wars, I would consider nvidia for my next upgrade but fuck man I'm not spending 450 bucks on a GPU that isn't even high end.
>>340802646
Interesting, I'd have to check that out later. My 390 was around $480 so if it ends up retailing for around $400 in Australia (double the price of the Burger edition is not far off the norm for release) then it is a pretty reasonable progression.
so $429 CDN
it will probably be like $100 less than the 1070
10 stereotypical and yet very much true things about AyyMDrones:
>On average they're poorer than Nvidia owners
>They tend to support promising but DoA technologies
>They always start shitposting months before the release of their new godsend AMD GPU and base their arguments on some single benchmark that has nothing to do with actual in game performance.
>They tend to stop shitposting a week after release when reviews show their brand new beast of a GPU struggling with 2 years old Nvidia card. (Note: Some of them stop shitposting sooner than a week when it turns out that their brand new GPU crashes PC when they open browser)
>They love to bitch about dirty Nvidia practices
>They love to think they're relevant when Nvidia owns 82% of GPU market shares.
>Their favorite chart is the overall performance chart - It makes them look good by including some irrelevant games that AMD could afford paying off and by hiding fact that every decent AAA game runs better on Nvidia cards. Remember lads - If your shitty AMD product has 30 fps more in some DX12 indie game but 5 fps less in 5 AAA games it's still a 5 fps gain over Nvidia! We sure showed them!
>If somebody offered them a free upgrade to Nvidia they would do it in a heartbeat
>They love to call superior Nvidia features like Shadowplay "gimmicks"
>They never ever will admit that this list is the truth.
>>340803058
it's no meaningful progression at all performance wise. wait for the 490 if you really want to upgrade that badly or just get a gtx 1070/1080
>>340799785
your gpu sucks man
you dont even need to upgrade to a 1080
just upgrade that shit
970 will do
or r9 380
just a more modern card
jeez man
thats like six years old
fuck
>>340798059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMT_mZ21O_Y
>>340802873
Sapphire is actually one of the expensive, premium AMD brands. Just like EVGA is for nvidia.
Other ones like msi, giga should be cheaper.
It is 20% slower, the 50% number is coming out of peoples asses. 1070 isnt 50% faster than a 980, the 1080 barely does that.
1070 = 980 ti
980 ti to 980 is 30% performance difference
480 slightly faster than 980
basic
>>340803308
>sucking corporate dick
good goy!
>had ATI, AMD and Nvidia cards
>had no issue regardless of how much abuse they recieved
Install fresh Win7 or newer, install latest supported driver and shit just works. Haven't seen a BSOD since ~2006.
>>340794079
>recording lossless video
>tanking performance
>YT rapes the quality anyway
>>340803353
>it's no meaningful progression at all performance wise.
It is a pretty meaningful progression is it is more powerful and nearly $100 cheaper.
>wait for the 490 if you really want to upgrade that badly or just get a gtx 1070/1080
Why the fuck do you think I'm looking to upgrade and why the fuck would you recommend someone go from a 390 to a 1070/1080. Now that's a waste of money for barely any performance gains.
>>340795647
>x4 955
my nigga
that was my last CPU then i got a i5 4690
i still have that system laying around
is it capable of capturing my gaming PC with a capture card?
>>340802108
>downgraded my gtx570 from the latest driver to driver version 314.22
>fps nearly doubled on all the games, especially the new ones, i can even play witcher 3 on medium settings at constant 60fps at 720p or 1080p at 30fps
man fuck you I'm seeing it first hand, fucking jewvidia
>>340796423
how do you even fake AA? also ATI had superior AF for a couple generations, before nvidia got their shit together.
i have a gtx 610 and a 450w psu whats a good one to get to upgrade?
>>340800870
>this picture quality
>8GB Ram on a 32 bit system
Excellent bait my friend
Here is my (You)
>>340803602
390 is pretty much 970 gtx +/- depending on game and how heavily you can OC your 970 (390 is a factory OCed 290) so 1070 is still at least 40-50% performance gain.
>>340799490
dont you have like $20/hr min wage
>my card is better because muh brand loyalty
>>340803308
Should I upgrade?
AMD cards are so overpriced as fuck here in Europe they cost the same as Nvidia.
And for the same price there is no sane person on this world that would buy AMD over Nvidia. That's why Nvidia has a marketshare of 90% here in Europe.
We are good goys
>>340792351
>>340794235
>>340799909
DOLLA DOLLA BILLS, Y'ALL
>>340804050
Thats cuz of Slavs using AMD for mining.
>>340802108
loads and loads of people like Linustechtips, eh?
>>340802290
>just RMA it bruh
Underclocking the card fixed my issue well enough that I didn't need to send it in. I could just as easily blame you for not RMAing that AMD card. But your bad experience trumps all oh great and lauded IT professional.
>You don't know the difference between an API and a driver or what either of them does.
A driver is meant to conform a piece of hardware to manipulation by outside API's. There's a layer of abstraction and overhead that goes on between the driver and the API. AMD hasn't had the software engineering capability to match Nvidia in cutting down on that overhead, however with the new API's, there's much less abstraction, and much less work to be done per game per gpu on amd and nvidia's part.
If a card has a well written vulkan implementation, then both nvidia and amd will benefit, assuming they both meet the spec for vulkan.
Why would you buy any new video card right now when you know they will give you a free copy of Dues Ex or some other AAA shit in 2-3 months time? Not to mention stock is very low and price gouging is rampant.
>>340804050
Nvidia is insanely expensive in yurop compared to AMD (and compared to nvidia US pricing)
>The AMD delusion in this thread
>>340804257
the new deus ex looks shit
