What rogue games have the most bullshit mechanics?
Pic related
Post yfw monster house.
>>340783885
>GBA mystery dungeon
>Ryolu
something here doesn't add up
>What is petrify orb?
>>340784124
Skorupi's in there too
Are you sure it's not Explorers
only MD game I played was Etrian and it was the most disappointed I've ever been. It ran like shit, looked like shit and didn't have 1/4 of the features that made etria fun. Maybe pokemon is better but it cant be by much.
>>340784026
>Rotom mission
>Come join me in my tea party
>>340784026
>>340783885
Fuck that game.
>>340783885
Almost every roguelike have monster houses you fucking retard
>>340784272
This. It's free EXP.
>>340783885
Monster nests aren't that big a deal.
The most bullshit one I can think of offhand is being a follower of Xom in Crawl.
>>340784690
What does that do?
>>340783885
Man Fuck that game so hard I was stuck on lugias tower and never beat it with my level 85 Pokemon.
is Super a good game?
need something to play on it while waiting for SMT4: Apocalypse
rogue?
as in roguelikes?
how are monster houses more bullshit than literally everything in nethack
touch a basilisk corpse? dead
wore un-id amulet? ammy of strangulation ded
so much bs
>>340784885
Yes.
>>340783885
Monster houses are nowhere near as bad as a bad monster vault in ADOM.
>>340783885
In shiren the wanderer, dragon can breath fire for fixed damage
Rank 1 dragon can only hit you if you are in their line of visione
Rank 2 dragon can only hit you if you are in the same room
Rank 3 dragon can hit you from anywhere on the floor, that means if there is a rank 3 dragon he will breath fire every 5-10 turns and will completly wreck your shit, without you ever seeing the dragon in the first place
>>340783885
monster houses are small time, try the level 5 dungeons loaded with Bellossoms doing screen attacks.
>>340784026
>>340784885
I liked it, but it's easier than the previous games and the plot is really similiar too so honestly the previous games were better
>>340783885
Azure Dreams has that same mechanic, although it's "Monster Dens"
If you haven't played it, I highly recommend it.
>>340785217
It was a great game
>>340784885
Most people are mixed.
It's definitely the hardest because it involves bigger floors, hunger is more punishing, and there's new things like enemies evolve after defeating a partner. There is an end state though because you recruit through jobs and you can't repeat them. You also get locked out of using most pokemon until later levels due to cooldowns, which pissed people off.
It has the worst story other than adventure squad, but my favourite story is fromGTIso what do I know.
I still like it. Best gameplay in the series otherwise.
>>340784804
Xom will randomly perform actions whenever the fuck he feels like it.
These can be good such as buffs, summon help, polymorph you into something stronger for a short time, polymorph enemies in to something weaker and other such effects.
Or neutral harmless stuff like alter the area you're in to something silly, or make you spray harmless foam that doesn't do anything.
Or he'll do bad stuff. Like summon shit out of your league, randomly debuff you, banish you to the Abyss, teleport you around the dungeon (including into a monster nest or even into a wall which is an instant kill), polymorph nearby enemies into harder enemies, and even trolly shit like moving the stairs away from you as you draw near.
So literally at any step you could be instantly be fucked by RNG.
>>340784895
NetHack is fair, though, a veteran player can ascend most of the time without any sort of grind, just going doing the dungeon (and then up).
And while I don't play it at "expert" level so I wouldn't know if it can be ascended in reliably as well, Slash'EM is certainly a direct upgrade in terms of how many ways there is to die, as the name kinda implies (Super Lotsa Added Stuff Hack, Extended Magic... and most of those things added involve a way to die).
>>340784885
I bounced off of itsuperhard. Everything takes forever to kill and attacks don't do a lot of damage, you run out of PP incredibly quickly.
I liked the old ones though
>>340784885
ways to exploit the game don't come until much later, items are more important than ever, early dungeons have 1 hit kill room attacks, floors are big enough that you will actually manage to starve, enemies evolving is more bullshit than ever and is basically an instant reset/failure, mega evolution is a double-edged sword that will end in wiping your party 50% of the time
>>340785323
>worst story
That goes to Rescue Team. The fugitive arc wasn't enough to save it for me.
>GTI best story
I don't think too many people will dispute this. The game itself wasn't the greatest, but the story and soundtrack were indeed really good.
>>340785164
>food items in elder scrolls.jpg
>>340784026
>Dungeons of Dredmor
>Zoo room
>Walk out of that a renewed Vacationer with plenty of stuff to mount on my wall when I get home
You are exploring a dungeon when this guy Unburdens over and slaps your partner's ass, what do?
IVAN in general is pretty BS, i can't even beat it with cheating for infinite reviving because the game will just kill-lock you
>>340785202
>easier than the previous games
What? I found it harder. Am I that bad?
>>340785704
That bitch is dead, abort mission. Drifblim is the Madara Uchiha of PMD.
kind want replay chocobo dungeon 2 in psp seeing this pic.
Weird, a very relevant thread to something I was just wondering
I played Mystery Dungeon Red a long time ago and remembered enjoying it a lot. Just today I started Explorers of Sky on an emulator and plyed a few hours. Made it to the part where you find the big gem in the waterfall cave. It hasn't really gripped me yet, though.
Does it get better? I still like the core gameplay loop, but it doesn't seem to have tons of depth yet.I started with Pikachu and Vulpix if that matters at all
>>340785880
Oh no, he was a Drifloon
>>340785704
Use Agility.
>>340785872
Not him, but you probably weren't using your items to their full potential. The game would have been more difficult if items were more scarce, but any lack of strength stat-wise can easily be made up wath items.
>>340786078
agility stopped being broken since gates, bro
>>340786000
Don't you mean aDrifl000n
How's post-game going?
Don't mind me, just going to 1 shot your team off-screen and teleport away
>>340786314
>not picking Fennekin/Charmander
>not tutoring Heat Wave
They're cute AND deadly.
>>340785704
Wave my stay away wand and walk away.
RAZOR WIND!
>>340786650
I never got this meme, they weren't as annoying as I expected them to be.
>>340787008
They're still pretty bad, but the wind up definitely takes some of the edge off.
>>340783885
I love how SC reused assets for these games multiple times
>>340787512
At least form RT to Explorers fixed the colors.
>multi-hit moves in Super
FUCK YOU
>>340787682
I mean, they even do it across different Mystery Dungeon series. Shiren and Pokemon use the same sound effects for certain actions, for example.
>>340783885
This is actually a very easy roguelike. I mean, it was made for children, after all.
>>340784367
I enjoyed it quite a lot. The sprites were serviceable enough and I never ran into any problems playing it.
I'd be more interested in these games if most evolutions weren't in the post game content
>>340783885
Any pure roguelike.
>>340784690
>Crawl
Is the game good? It looks interesting
>>340788936
I think so, yeah.
>>340787958
Huh, I didn't know that. That is funny.
>>340787984
I don't know why they're so stubborn about that. It was worked into the story of Super but in the other games I don't know, any Pokémon could have filled those roles. They probably didn't want to do all the emotion portraits for all those Pokémon, but they started doing it in Super so maybe pre-postgame evolution might be possible in a later game.
But c'mon, don't you want to be cute forever?
>>340783885
Attacks that hit everything in the room In giant rooms.
Fucking razor wind at the start of super mystery dungeon.
>>340785653
>Monster Zoo in the second level
>fucking Ghost shit teleports through a wall to another section of the dungeon more than 10 rooms away therefore making it unclearable because the little shit is just going to teleport more and more
And I also got sent from a Strange dimension into an island with no way out and plenty of enemies to snipe me.
>>340784690
>Not begin a HoMO of Xom
>>340784690
Xom is not even that bad most of the time.
>>340785704
Tactical Takedown with rocks from afar, that's why I keep'em.
>>340784885
I liked it mostly, except that the exp balance was seriously fucked up. For example enemies in Hidden Land gave you approx 300 xp if I remember, but inPrimordial Forestit was barely 100. I wasn't very fond of that.
Victory is mine
>>340783885
boy do i have some bullshit pmd stories
>pokemon red rescue team
>start expodition at the volcano place
>first room i spawn in on the first floor was a monster house
>i die from immense rape immediately
>still red rescue team
>same place around the 5-10th floor
>go to a wide open room
>almost EVERYWHERE was traps on every square tile
>barely survive as all my reviver seeds and food were demolished
>explorers of time
>save up reviver seeds throughout the whole game
>get to final area of the game
>quickly take out all reviver seeds i had
>lose one thanks to some bullshit i cant remember
>try to reset
>the game autosaved and erased all my items, including all the reviver seeds i stockpiled for the final boss
>never played it again
>super mystery dungeon
>going through an expedition just fine
>suddenly walk into a monster house
>no orbs
>no useful wands
>no AOE moves
>try running away
>the moment i move an omastar uses hydro pump and kills off my entire team AND expedition pokemon
>three reviver seeds chewed up
>another one uses hydro pump again
>all reviver seeds eaten up
>went to options and quit game immediately
No pokemon game has the right to be so frustrating
>dude let's add a monster that constantly damages you and specifically only you from across the whole level
>and does this as soon as you enter the level without even needing to detect you
>also how close it is to the staircase is completely random
>ALSO get this, get this, it also shatters all glass bottles in your inventory so throughout the whole goddamn game you have to collect empty cans to put your potions inside, and you need to replace your lantern with a flaming sword or whatever retarded glowing item you may or may not find, all specifically for this level!
FUCK
YOU
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The best strategy is to use a scroll of detect material to detect "enner beast flesh" and zap a wand of fireball in the general direction which is a fucking crapshoot
GODDAMN THIS ASSHOLE MAKES ME SO MAD
ALSO THERE'S A CHANCE TO TELEPORT YOU TO THIS LEVEL ANYTIME YOU DRINK FROM A FOUNTAIN AND YOU PROBABLY WON'T MAKE IT BACK BEFORE YOU DIE FROM THE LEVELWIDE AOE WHOOPS ALL YOUR POTIONS ARE GONE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH EMPTY GODDAMN CANS
FUCK YOU
>>340785202
>Gates to Infinity
>Better than anything
shit taste my man
Fucking elona, fucking slimes
THATS SOME NICE GEAR YOU GOT WOULD BE A SHAME IF I WERE TO SPIT ACID ON IT AND COST YOUR ENTIRE BANK ACCOUNT TO REPAIR
>>340790586
This isn't much comfort, but you can avoid the autosave by reseting before advancing from the 'You/your partner was defeated!' text.
>>340783885
> mystery dungeon games are rogue
>>340791613
Are you me?No you're not. Get a fucking machine gun.[/spoiler ]
>>340791613
>slimes
>not quicklings
Nothing like getting pelted by 50 arrows every step you take and not being able to ever hit it because it's so quick, atleast they make god tier pets
>>340784885
I wanted to like it, because so many people say it's so great, but it just isn't as fun as Explorers of Sky, which I find myself returning to more.
Probably just cause I need to getgud, but it's way too punishing and restricting, for my tastes.
>>340791950
Throw a dye on them. Problem solved.
>>340791950
> not going for platinum bell pets
>>340792116
I hear it's MUCH more linear as in you can't really grind like in old games, revisiting dungeons to get cool items and such is that true?
>>340791613
At least you can acidproof your equipment for them. Meanwhile this thing.
>Explodes on you for massive damage
>They can multiply and set each other off
>They can fucking grab you if they see you
Have fun when you open a door with a room full of them, get grabbed, and watch 20 explosions that killed you with just the second one.
>>340792192
Been a while since I've played but what does dye do when thrown, I thought it just acted like an acid potion
You can just petrify those niggas.
The last time I went through DCSS elven halls it took a solid couple minutes of kiting with dragon call to clear the last floor. And I still got Abyssed.
>>340792293
>Not getting infinite doll as pets
You know, you can get infinite artifacts.
>>340784026
>It's a monster house!
>the monster house music starts playing
Stuff of nightmares.
>>340792429
Nah, poison. It takes effect on every tick they move tho. So they literally just die in 1-2 of your turns.
>>340792429
Acts like poison.
They die in one turn of yours.
>>340792371
Shit that sounds brutal are they only in south tyris?
>"I told him to doomsday the whole party and he actually did the absolute madman!"
>>340784026
>>340792627
Level-scaled, I think. Tbh there's worse things when you encounter them.
>>340792627
Level 40-50 dungeons if I remember correctly
>>340784026
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/SNVllLs.png "latest[1].png")
Gentlemen
>>340792303
You can't grind levels during the story, but you can grind items via Pelipper Island, which is much more important in Super. After the story you can grind EXP all you want.
You get most of the good items on the first go in treasure dungeons, so no more grinding ZIS for that Tight Belt (which is an improvement imo but feel free to disagree). It's because these items are now one goal of the post-game instead of just being there.
Infinite missions are gone but you can still go into dungeons without them (though there's really no point unless you like the gameplay THAT much). And recruits escluding you and your partner have cooldowns but it gets less common the higher level you are. It never fully goes away, unfortunately.
>>340784272
>altaria's natural cure activated!
>altaria used refresh!
World Tree can eat a dick
>>340792653
>It's a "the Collector suddenly appears" episode
>>340792992
Aren't they in that "protect the army" quest? If so those seemed kinda KINDA easy I mean sure they hit fucking hard but they go down easily
>>340785965
Is PKMD Explorers of Sky the same story as Explorers of Time and Darkness? If yes, then yes play it through it get gud
>>340793202
Bomb throwers.
Like rock throwers but with grenades.
Makes you resurrect your buddies everytime.
Also, you should try Golem/Monk build. Pretty awesome.
>>340790586
>Die in submerged cave
>get my team of lv 50s to try and rescue myself
>1 floor away
>seadra used hydro pump!
>lose 2 of my 3 team
>seadra has evolved into kingdra!
>kingdra used Hydro pump!
submerged cave was where I realized hydro pump is a bitch
Started SPMD today, team is Treecko andCute~Fennekin. At the"climbing mountain to second town"part. Am I fucked, or are those two good pokes for rest of game? No spoiler pls.
>>340793359
Cool never though of that before I should try it
>>340793391
That's my team as well, you're good.
>>340784367
>It ran like shit, looked like shit
Just like EO
>>340785965
You have to keep playing, the game gets really good when the story starts kicking in for real.
>>340784026
>Silver Wind
I would love a MMO with permadeath.
>enemies can lower your level
>enemies can level up
>enemies can kill each other to level up
>enemies can eat your food
>enemies can self-detonate
>enemies can lower your hunger
>enemies can flip your hunger sending it to zero if it's full
>higher level versions of that enemy can flip your HP
>enemies can forcefully eject your equipment from your character out of your inventory and possibly make you lose it permanently if it hits a partner, enemy or specific environmentThese are all from one specific mystery dungeon series
>>340793909
was setzer supposed to be really old or did he just have white/gray hair
>>340793391
as a treeko and tepig user, you'll be fine
>>340794164
He likes Opera, what do you think?
>>340793969
It's not really an MMO, but Runescape has something called "Hardcore Ironman mode" where your account gets deleted if you die, but you can't use the GE, trade, or get any help from other players at all. I've never done it myself because it would be too much for my nerves, but if you're looking for something with permadeath, then it might be worth a try.
Etrian Mystery Dungeon has a REALLY bullshit mechanic.
After a certain point in the dungeon "the amber is surging..." will pop up.
This means that all the monsters get a massive stat boost and take forever to kill unless you abuse ailments.
The worst part about this? Enemies who are killed by ailments or traps DON'T GIVE ANY EXP.Monster Houses can still happen when the amber is surging.
>>340793385
>Be Pikachu
>Get a move which hits everything in the room
>Ruin monster houses for the rest of the game
>No fuss, no problem
>Finally one late game dungeon try it again
>Rhydon's Lightning Rod absorbed the attack!
>Repeat x10
>Then get gangbanged to death
>>340791871
Most mystery dungeons are rogue-lite due to having persistent statistical progression outside of the dungeons.
However, Shiren The Wanderer is a roguelike.
>>340784026
>mfw double use Ominous Wind
>>340784272
>enemy walks in and Sandstorms your ass
>stunned enemies unstunned by weather damage
>>340793909Venomoth's attack rose!
>>340795143
By that logic pretty much every dungeon crawler out there is a rougelite
>>340785880
Is there a pokémon that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Drifblim? Let alone defeat him? And I’m not talking about
Aftermath Drifblim. I’m not talking item holding Drifblim either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Ominous Wind
Drifblim. I'm not even talking about Drifblim at max stats. I'm talking about PMD Drifblim with the Minimize
buffs and Unburden (with no held item and being capable of both Gust and Shadow Ball), at quadruple speed from
Unburden Ominous Wind, equipped with his Breeze Scarf, a Draft Ring, control of the IQ Skills and Quick Striker
for a quad hitting normal attack, with stat drinks and Life Seeds implanted in him so he has 999 HP and 255 in
all stats and can perform Ominous Wind spam while being an expert in shrinking and evading attacks, while also
having an immunity to Electric and Ghost attacks from the Sky and Nether Globes, and also being permanently at
double speed due to the Sky Gem, and having every beneficial swap item in the Treasure Bag for a grand stat
total of 275 Attack, 269 Defense, 295 Special Attack, and 281 Special Defense, after using Ominous Wind enough
to hit +10 to Attack, Defense, Special Attack, and Special Defense.
Just use Heat Wave/ Earthquake/ Surf/ Blizzard, etc.
>>340795143
Shiren is rogue-lite until you unlock the post game dungeons.
>>340784026
>Played this when I was a kid
>Get a monster house
>Reset
Reminder that the deadliest enemy around in Rescue Team isn't Kecleon, Mewtwo, or that Articuno, but pic related when found in the one dungeon it's in.
>>340784434
>Haha, you beat me! I'll join you now!
NO
EAT SHIT AND DIE YOU BACKSTABBING MOTHERFUCKER
>>340796484
>complaining about the traps in pokemon mystery dungeon
There's so few of them and they barely do anything. They might as well not even be there.
>>340797234
>There's so few of them and they barely do anything.
Try saying that with a straight face when you're on floor 18 and a trap spoils your last apple.
>>340797234
It's different in the level 1/5 dungeons. Exploding traps, PP sapping traps, and Sticky traps are everywhere.
>>340797234
If you stop playing the game once the story is over maybe.
There are a bunch of different varieties of traps in super PMD, and some of them are fucking bullshit.
>>340797584
I'm so glad the Satiated Looplet isn't such a bitch to get as the Tight Belt. There was almost nothing to do after getting the Tight Belt.
>>340797584
Compared to even other mystery dungeon games, the pokemon games are cakewalks.
>>340797987
>do 20 runs of ZIS that get to the end
>not a single tight belt
>>340797967
>apple trap
>Stay on a floor for too long
>"You feel a wind blowing..."
>>340796484
Oh my lord that first all-caps line, I'm gonna die laughing.
>>340784895
Nethack is a masterpiece of the Roguelike genre because there are no truly unavoidable deaths. As long as you play cautiously, and never use any un-id'd item, and know the enemies, you can win 100% of the time.
...with the sole exception of an early enemy finding a wand of death on the ground. That's the only truly unavoidable bullshit death. After the first time you die to a cocktrice you should know to always treat them with the utmost care
>>340798652
Translation: no truly unavoidable death as long you're glued to the wiki
>>340798062
I can't remember an instance where an apple trap fucked me over. I rarely see those.
I was thinking more PP zero traps and Grudge traps.
Fuck fucking PP zero traps. Those pieces of shit are everywhere, and every time I step on one I get instantly pissed.
>>340798652
Nethack is easy once you know all the spoilers. Like any roguelike.
>>340783885
>What rogue games have the most bullshit mechanics?
I would say poschengband because pic related, but there are worse in others
>>340798974
>>340799020
There are a lot of roguelikes where you still have a chance of dying randomly and unavoidably even if you play absolutely perfectly and never make a single misjudgement just because of bad design.
In nethack you have no excuse for dying once you obtain some form of reflection except for just ignorance
I've played the first Pokemon Mystery Dungeon for the DS and liked it. Are the others good? I think I tried explorers of dicks or whatever but it was so fucking wordy I got sick of it. Does the story ever matter for progress? I really don't want to read any thing I don't have to.
>>340788936
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup is the PERFECT babby's first roguelike. It's fun for any skill level. Protips: when playing casters, macros will save you a shitload of tedium. I macro "za." to a button which automatically casts whatever spell is in slot a at the closest target.
>>340799732
Perfect for babbys as long as they play shit like MiBe.
>>340784885
It's the easiest by far because items are fucking broken, especially wands.
>>340799913
Okay, and?
>>340799458
Play explorers of Sky. The story is highly important for progress just like the first game and is essentially the Pokemon Crystal/Emeral/Platinum to Time/Darkness
You don't HAVE to read everything but it's highly recommended that you do, the story's great.
>>340799326
>breathes time and gravity
>mind blasts and brain smashes
holy shit
>>340799458
There's always a little symbol next to the dungeon you need to go to so you can ignore text if you want, but there's no skip button so you have to manually scroll past it all. Super doesn't even give you a break, it's just one dungeons after another.
They're all story-heavy, the gameplay isn't really the focus until post-game which can take about 20 hours depending on how lucky/good you are.
>>340800226
No elaboration. What I meant is all there.
>>340799986
>items are broken
As opposed to previous games? You just need to use items more often in super because the starting difficulty is already a notch higher than previous games.
>>340783885
>monster house
>they all start using agility
>>340800254
Also the EotS special episodes
>>340800595
FUCK!
>>340798135
Fuck that shit what was the point of it
>nobody should be stupid enough to stay on one single floor and wait for enemits to slowly spawn so they could "grind"
>>340786650
One of my favourite Pokemon from the recent gen.
>>340785574
>>GTI best story
Are you fucking serious?
Easily the worst.
>>340800348
Ya know what, I read some hostility into your post that probably wasn't there. My bad man. I didn't need to be a snark shark. You know how it is on /v/.
>>340800595
>go to whatever the fuck sky dungeon that you needed a bro to have fly to get to
>pretty deep in it
>party fucking great
>have the x-ray goggles so I can see monsters and helpful stuff on map
>enter monster house
>they all spam agility to move a max of 4 actions a turn
>all seems lost
>wait
>use orb to send them all to other spaces around the floor
>HA!
>take one step toward exit
>I can literally see everything on the map take 4 steps toward me
I'm going to protect this doggo!
>>340801014I didn't play it butI can say with confidence it's not as bad as Rescue Team's at least. Maybe not the best but fucking certainly not the worst. From what I've been spoiled on form Gates' story there is a huge power gap between it and RT.
>>340800871
Roguelikes/Dungeon crawlers always have the "Grim reaper shows up if you stay on a floor or dungeon too long" thing.
>>340801014
super's is the worst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH83aXI2mn8
>>340801335
it's a fox
>>340801529
It's a meme.
>>340801371
I don't remember nethack having anything like that, nor dcss or elona I've only ever seen it in mystery dungeon games what other games have it?
>>340783885
>>340801712
Persona 3 and 4
>>340790586
In explorers of time you can get reviver seeds very easily if you do the foot print minigame and win which isn't hard.
You already know.
>>340801712
Persona 3 and BBI from dragons dogma off the top of my head
>>340784026
I remember just using an orb which made everyone scatter allowing me to chase them and pick them off one by one.>>340784026
ever since then I always make sure I had one just in case
>tfw when you vs dialga all them revival seeds gone like tears in the rain
>>340784026
>>340801724
Why do nips like to lick their blades? Do they enjoy the taste of iron so much because their diet is mostly vegetables or something?
It's not intimidating, it looks gay as hell.
>>340784026
are there monster houses in the new 3ds one?
>PSMD
>jirachifight
>literally every revive seed i have is in my inventory
>saved the night before
What the fuck is this bullshit? Help, anyone??
>>340802576
>>340802684I'm pretty sure you don't have to win.
Spam Blast Seeds?
>>340802576
Nah, don't worry they removed them.
>>340802830Yes, that the point. But my main character uses a revive seed every time he dies, so I'm pretty much losing every single seed I have.
>>340802576
Nope, now pokemon just invite you to their secret base instead to hang out!
>It's a Monster House
>Aerodactyl used Agility
>Aerodactyl used Agility
>Aerodactyl used Agility
Please stop you fucking faggot.
>>340799326
What the fuck is that mess
I hated the fucking ghost/flying pokemon that could move through walls more
>dungeon has shedinjas
>no ghost pokemon
>has like 999 health
>every attack does 1 damage
>>340799326
>>340802950
Oooooh. I didn't make the connection.
Well, lesson for next time: don't bring all of your seeds. Just try to fight if you have so many seeds on you. You can buy 5 Reviver Seeds a Gold Bar at Cofagrigus so it's really not too big of a loss to lose your tiny ones.
>>340799326
Wow I didn't know they put anime protagonists in the game
>>340800595
>monster house
>no problem, I have a teeter orb
>"X used Ominous Wind!""X used Ominous Wind!""X used Ominous Wind!""X used Ominous Wind!""X used Ominous Wind!""X used Ominous Wind!""X used Ominous Wind!"
>>340784026
>mfw my party is ready to fuck shit up.
>>340802959
Rotom is a faggot but he is such a God tier adventuring partner.
He and Cinccino are absolutely broken and they never take breaks
>>340784026
>mfw I'm a Charizard w/ Heat Wave
>>340802576
Basically a bonus level compared to the actual game.
>Generic mobs oneshot you if weakness, twoshot you otherwise
>Fighting multiple bosses at once with ranged attacks
>Bosses that heal from status effects
>Consecutive boss fights
I love it. You feel so helpless and have to rely on items to survive, suitably reflects the fact that you're just kids in Super.
>>340784124
It's clearly not the GBA one, anon.
>>340802959
>"Yo bro come check out my sweet pad"
>Introduces me to a bunch of cool Eeveelutions
>"That's Umbreon and Espeon, but they mostly just play with each other"
How the hell did they get away with that one?
>>340796484
Does this look like the face of mercy to you?
>>340804352
>tfw even at -2 sp attack it'll take like 90% hp off of even Heatran
>>340790850
>Fastest starting story, feels within the first hour
>Very dismal and grim story right from the get-go, full of distrust and betrayal
>Best fucking twist ever in a video game which happens right in the middle of the fucking intro
>Greatest OST on the 3DS next to Kid Icarus
>Forever hated because it didn't have your favorite Pokemon
>>340783885
What are everyone's favorite monster house themes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3MBWtuJnyY&index=18&list=PLEwKmtcft8I_TxntUAmUuEgcE09ooRaib
>>340801712
DCSS forces out of depth spawns if you go over certain turn counts for floors.
Minotaurs/Demons on D1 kind of stuff.
>>340790619
IVAN was purposefully made to be bullshit though, if the name isn't indication enough.
>>340791613
>equip wings
>float over acid pools
Gee that was difficult.
>>340804636
>tfw of the few mons in that game your favorite got in and even got part of the story
best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH83aXI2mn8
>>340804636
I've noticed that, as much as most PMD fans say the story is where it's at, they put gameplay above all else. Which isn't a bad thing, but why discount a certain game's story in a sotry-driven series just because the game part isn't the best?
Honestly why I stopped caring about even fans' opinions on these games, no one knows what they want, or they just want Explorers over and over again.
>>340804636
>fave is a gen 5 mon
>game is mostly gen 5 pokémon
>my fave still doesn't get init's ReuniclusGates is still my second favourite in the series though, shame about the lack of pokemon and the SLOW AS FUCK text
>>340804938
Quagsire was a hardcore motherfucker. I don't know how but PMD always manages to have a great and vibrant cast while the mainline games are just generic garbage.
>>340805141
I mean, honestly the gameplay in all of these is slow and tedious. But the franchise has realized that a story that's hype as a happy fuck and great music can get people to keep playing anyway.
>>340805320
what sucks now is ampharos was already used so it likely wont get a spot again
>>340805425
He could just come back as the same character from Super. He IS the Dashing Wanderer, after all. Who knows where he'll turn up?
>>340801712
well trying to grind for xp in nethack is ultimately futile since the xp requirement will get insane very fast and the only way you'll keep leveling is by eating or quaffing
>>340805587
Probably Zero Isle.
>"Your level is now reduced to 1"
>Fug :DDD
>>340801712
DCSS spawns fun monsters like hydras or dragons on floor 1 after a while.
If you kill those then the game stops spawning monsters altogether, so you can starve in peace. Or keep being a mummy.
>>340803095
>link Thunder+Agility
I am Lighting, Rain Transformed.
>>340805124
>That first boss fight
My ass wasn't ready
>That second boss fight
My ass wasn't ready
>That second boss fight
Mydickwasn't ready
>>340804636
Kid Icarus has a shit tier OST though.
>play etrian mystery dungeon
>get inflicted with head bind
>lol ok I dont even need to heal that, the enemy will proc the bind again anyways
>Use Theriaca on player? No
>Use Theriaca on player? No
>Use Theriaca on player? No
>the party just waits there in the tunnel asking to heal instead of fighting
>Use Theriaca on player? Yes
>Player's head was bound
The ai really sucks. I wish manual team control wasnt a burst skill cause that first few rooms when entering a dungeon with zero burst has to be the most dangerous thing since the ai can just fucking run off into the dungeon alone sometimes
How hard are the level reset dungeons in the DS games?
>>340799326
>>340805587
All of SMD was worth it for pic related. spoilers if someone hasnt already played it.not to say the game was bad, though.
>>340808528
If you use Drifblim, you get easymode Zero Isle. It's still hard, but you have a massive edge with Unburden. I made a few guides on them, take a look if you want. http://pastebin.com/nAMMGxA2
