More importantly than gameplay, which game has more charm and personality?
>>340763667
TF2
>which game has more charm and personality
They're equally lifeless.
>>340763667
Overwatch
>>340763667
Tf2
>>340763667
Clearly the spy,both games are shit.
>>340763667
Now? None.
Originally? TF2.
>>340763667
>More importantly than gameplay
Please leave.
>>340763667
TF2 by far.
Overwatch cast is all over the place. Robots, Nathan Portans, Chinese Ninjas, Alien Snipers, Swedes
TF2 has a lovely cast of retarded mercs
>>340763667
Why does tracer have a tumblr nose?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXglON1tgX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6Gu0PSgq6s
You tell me
>>340763667
why would you compare tracer with the spy instead of the scout?
TF2 by far. I like Overwatch but TF2 is hilarious and charming.
Tf2
The scout has more personality on his jeers line than the whole OW cast.
>>340764062
this
TF2 = Bugs life
Overwatch = Antz
>>340763667
I like both in regards to both charm and gameplay, but Overwatch tries to take itself way too seriously. It has no real story or single player content (No, making shitty movies and posting fanfiction tier backstories on a site isn't part of the game) and I find most of it cringeworthy. In game, it's all pretty cool and just fun, but it still tries to make the characters something more than they are. In the end, the game is just a fun MP shooter. TF2 isn't guilty of this. Its characters are built just for being in a fun MP shooter, so it gets the nod.
>>340763667
TF2
>>340763667
I'd say Overwatch
>Overwatch: Waifu simulator
TF2
>>340764062
I miss everything about TF2 but I can't stand the fucking hat economy and furry autists that have made 80% of the servers 24/7 2fort
>>340764749
This is such a good analogy, like it's spot fucking on
>>340763667
>More importantly than gameplay
>in a videogame
kys
TF2 = Crayola crayons
Overwatch = RoseArt crayons
>>340764749
Hey, I liked Antz
TF2, and I didn't even play it all that much, the horrendous community drove me right off, but it sure is fun.I play OW now
I like Overwatch but Valve games have this charm to them that no developer will ever replicate.
Both TF2 and Dota have great memorable characters, the writing and the banter between them makes the game feel so alive and cohesive.
I don't like Blizzard's style of humor at all.
>>340764062
>You'll never hit me, you'll never hit my tiny head
Blizzard couldn't write something this funny if they even tried
>>340764062
>Scout video is 15 minutes
>Tracer video is 50 seconds
We need a TF3. The hilarity of all the characters in TF2 made it so much more fun to play. Overwatch takes itself too seriously. We need a dedicated /v/ TF2 server that's pure vanilla.
>>340765881
>We
The "Meet the Team" videos are still hilarious, and I probably watched them a dozen times each when I was younger.
Blizzard can never compete in that regard. All they can do is make the gameplay good.
>>340765961
>Waz
Spy managed to fuck Scout's MLIF, Tracer's lesbian undertones can't compete against those skills.
>>340766107
QUEENS N SHIIEET
JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE *SMACKS LIPS*
>>340763997
welcome to the 'diversity is strength' age.
TF2 has some of the most memorable and funny characters I've ever seen in a videogame
>>340763667
overwatch characters are all over the place.
One cowboy, one edgy assasin, one big robot from korea, one guy who is so huge he should not be able to walk, one monkey, one dwarf and one jamaican.
This is the defenition of "LEL SO RANDOM XD"
TF2 just has a bunch of mercs.
No one is over the top and just what they need to be.
>>340763667
Overwatch, no question
TF2 is the meme shit of its days
Overwatch is a bunch of cartoon cliches
TF2 is a bunch of ethnic stereotypes
The latter is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-86sw7GeMfc
I GOT A MANGY EYE
I'M A BLACK SCOTTISH CYCLOPS
THEY GOT MORE [CENSORED] THAN THEY GOT THE LIKES OF ME
>>340765664
pretty much the same with starcraft 2 and CoH2 in terms of voicec acting and unit banter. Relic blows SC2 out of the water so hard, its not even funny.
>Your white flag cannot stop American Bullets
I WANNA GO BACK WHY DID YOU FAGGOTS HAVE TO KILL TF2 WITH YOUR FURFAG SERVERS AND HAT TRADING ALL THE TIME
Overwatch's characters are designed by a commitee of marketing executives. They're a collection of random cliches and dollar-store knockoffs of popular characters to appeal to all demographics, that are a multicultural group of all faiths and creeds to appeal to all countries in the world, and with blandly inoffensive dialogue without any kind of vulgarity or insults to make sure they don't violate their PG rating for mild violence and comic mischief.
>>340763667
TF2, the voice lines seem better. Overwatch feels really robotic and unlifelike for some reason.
One game has a realistic despictions of australians
The other game has a newzealander pissing in jars
>>340765664
I don't like Blizzards style of writing in general.
Guess Metzen is still a huge influence even if he isn't directly responsible for it. The guys greatest feats of writing are muh corruption and boring middle aged people going through a midlife crisis.
Did he ever write anything genuinely funny?
Fucking hell.
>>340764062
the characters have lines beyond the unlockable quotes that are situational
I still wont defend Overwatch as it is not really trying to be funny at all
all the heroes are played pretty straight vs TF2 where everyone is kinda a charaicture/parody of themselves.
the scout voice actor is a huge nerdlike me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWjxdvTF65Q
>>340764062
>4:42
>Oh, hey, you shapeshifted into a dead guy
>mfw
>>340767113
The problem is Overwatch isn't really trying to be funny. It's trying to be serious. And taking itself way too serious for what it is. It's just a silly MP shooter, like TF2, but Metzen wants them to be all tragic superheroes with deep backstories and crap, even though there's no room at all for that in the game since there's no single player content at all.
Maybe it's because Overwatch was originally Titan and supposedly something else, like an MMO that probably had lore and quests and such. It just didn't carry over well. Heroes of the Storm actually has some top tier banter between its characters, and maybe that's because it was only ever just intended to be a simple MP game.
>>340767372
He did this a week ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAbSLd9b4r8
>>340766771
GO PLAY YOUR PINKO CHESS GAME WITH THE DEVIL, COMMIE
YOU CANNOT BURN ME, I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO COMBUST
>>340767432
you can have a serious game and still have excellent banter. Company of Heroes 1 and 2 both have it.
Dawn of war had it.
Dawn of war 2 had it.
>inb4 relic fanboy
>>340766297
TF2 cast is from all over the world too, but at least they have a unifying art style, Overwatch characters are all too overdesigned and look like they're from a MOBA
>>340767432
>Overwatch isn't really trying to be funny. It's trying to be serious
Is literally trying both.
Is like one of the dreamworks shitty movies, one scene have the main villain killing a guy and the next scene is a ̶p̶a̶n̶d̶a monkey stuffing his mouth with food and acting retarded
OVerwatch made me realize how good TF2 is.
I hate the "TF2 was better when it was vanilla" fags
>>340767823
TF2 was better before the Uber update
>>340767931
If you find a good community server then it's really not that different (yes, community servers still exist)
>>340763667
Tf2 hands down
>>340763667
Overwatch is already more popular than TF2 on pop culture around the world. Fucking hell, I saw my cousin talking about it the other day (and we are on Perú atm.) Friends I have from Trinidad & Tobago/Rumania know the damn game, and they barely play videogames.
I'll say for sure that 10 years from now the cast of Overwatch will be super iconic and remembered by everyone all around the world. Their designs, personality and being people with different nations/being a Blizzard product will push this further and further.
Again, this is fucking Blizzard. Valve may had a chance one day, but that is over today. They just can't compete. Hell, is any Dota 2 character iconic enough to be on mainstream culture as much as WoW/Starcraft?
It helped a lot that the best and only good artist from Udon made the characters of Overwatch. They feel like Capcom characters, they could easily be a cast on a golden age fighting game. Hell, this is the greatest compliment anyone can give. You can say whatever you want about them, but Capcom were literally The GODS of videogame art and illustration.
I don't understand the 'tf2 was better before x' meme. I just jump in a server, play a few rounds and have fun
>>340768234
el peruANO.....
>>340763667
TF2 story-wise.
Overwatch design-wise.
>>340768234
Overwatch will never be "iconic". Never. The characters are so forgettable.
>>340765195
This man gets it.
This is exactly why I was so excited about OW and have been playing the shit out of it. I love TF2 but I can't fucking stand what it turned into. OW isn't a perfect replacement but it does scratch the itch.
>>340768249
>Overwatch design-wise.
Explain.
>>340763667
Tf2 because it's had a decade to make a name for itself
If we could see into the future to look at overwatch a decade from now, this would be a good thread
>>340768437
meant for
>>340768369
>>340763667
Overwatch. It's way easier to connect with the characters. Not to mention they have a personality that isn't just mindless babbling autism.
>>340768234
lol ya ok
lots of shit is popular now but shallow. Overwatch isn't the first of it's kind. It'll be popular for a while, but it won't be considered a classic and will last as long as blizzard pours their endless supply of money into it.
none of the characters will be remembered outside of the nostalgia teenagers have playing it now.
>>340766407
>Lucio
>Jamaican
Lucio is from Brazil.
>>340768529
I agree, I connect really well with Winston because I'm also a space gorilla with glasses
>>340763667
Spy kills people without dying in one shot and has more style while Tracer is a slower scout with a short range primary and no backup weapon
Why would anyone pick Tracer over Spy besides
>muh waffle
TF2 no doubt, look how much content their community was able to make thanks to it, now look at Overwatch in the following months (porn is good but thats just it).
Describe the Engineer's personality.
Describe Torbjorn's personality.
>>340768683
Cocaine logic, dumbass.
>>340768529
I can really relate to Reaper. You don't want to get on my dark side.
>>340768234
its popular BECAUSE blizzard spent forever marketing it. The in game interactions are shallow as a puddle compared to TF2.
>>340763667
Tf2 easily.
"Scotland is not a real country, you are an englishman wearing a dress". Soldier 2k16
>>340764062
>you fat, bald, fatty fat...fat fat!
God dammit I love TF2
>>340763667
Overwatch I guess.
>>340763667
tf2 without any fucking doubt
overwatch is new, fresh, prettier but get completely BTFO if you compare with the personality and voice acting of tf2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxOefU1Lg68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvOJHpPjdyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCLpO-uNtPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-86sw7GeMfc
How can overwatch even compete?
>>340768927
Yeah because hats are less shallow than skins.
>>340768529
They don't even have quarter the voicelines TF2 characters have. And yet they have more character?
Lmao please bitch, I've been playing the game since closed open and now full release and you're just spouting shit.
>>340763667
TF2 desu senpai
>>340769024
What does this post even mean
>>340768529
Zarya is literally me.
>>340769174
LONDON
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>>340768437
TF2's art design is fine and definitely more consistent, egregious amount of hats aside.
But I'm quite fond of most of Overwatch's diverse and colorful designs and how they play up to the unique powers and skill-sets of each character. Even if a few are hit-and-miss.
>>340763667
It's TF2.
The problem with Overwatch is that Blizzard's writers are just so fucking horrible and lazy these days. All of the heroes have terribly bland and cliche lines as well as horrible one-note trope personalities.
Valve when it created TF2 was at the height of its writing and creativity. The lines are all top humor, the characters unique and likable.
Most of all they all blend together. Overwatch tries so hard to cater to everyone that the heroes end up looking as if they'd all been pulled from different games and slapped into one. And not in the good 'Smash Brothers' way.
Hell, Dota 2 has like, 111 heroes now? And every single one of them have more unique/stronger characters than those in Overwatch.
>>340769093
Your retarded faggot. All of tf2's voice acting is just screaming autistic bullshit. At least in Overwatch there's actual lines.
TF2 was at least somewhat original with their cast.
Overwatch is literally TV-tropes the game, it's like Blizzard just hit the random button on that site and made the most generic characters they could think of, kind of like the FF7 cast.
>>340769441
Nice meme
>>340769275
Said literally, so around Russia would be the answer.
>>340763667
It's hard for me to stomach the safe American family friendly vibe I get from Overwatch
>>340765505
I don't think he's saying overwatch is bad. Just not as good as TF2
For better or for worse, the designs in Overwatch feel less organic. They give the perception that the process went along the lines of:
>TF2
>Hey you know what would be cool and hilarious? A drunk black Scotsman that loves explosions - with only one eye
>Overwatch
>What would easily appeal to X audiences? Ummmmm, okay how about a big Russian lady with pink hair or an ambiguously chubby Chinese girl
With that said I still like a lot of OW's character designs, they just feel have a vibe of being more calculated.
>more importantly than gameplay
"No"
>>340769441
Hilarous.
>>340763667
The one that's nearly a decade old.
TF2 has better design than Overwatch, the 9 classes still make me laugh once in a while.
>>340763667
Overwatch has characters like Zenyetta and Reinhardt that are cool as fuck but on the whole TF2 has much more personality.
TF2 before the influx of cosmetics ruined the art style, is probably the most "personality" filled game of all time. Also some of the best writing ever.
>>340764749
Spot on
>>340769441
have a (you)
Its no contest, TF2. Both gameplay quality and overall charm and personality. Overwatch characters are almost a little sterile, almost too pretty!
But its an old ass game and Overwatch is shiny any new so ill be playing that
>>340768529
This is me. Literally me. No other character can come close to relating to me like this. There is no way you can convince me this is not me. This character could not possibly be anymore me. It's me, and nobody can convince me otherwise. If anyone approached me on the topic of this not possibly being me, then I immediately shut them down with overwhelming evidence that this character is me. This character is me, it is indisputable. Why anyone would try to argue that this character is not me is beyond me. If you held two pictures of me and this character side by side, you'd see no difference. I can safely look at this character every day and say "Yup, that's me". I can practically see this character every time I look at myself in the mirror. I go outside and people stop me to comment how similar I look and act to this character. I chuckle softly as I'm assured everyday this character is me in every way. I can smile each time I get out of bed every morning knowing that I've found my identity with this character and I know my place in this world. It's really quite funny how similar this character is to me, it's almost like we're identical twins. When I first saw this character, I had an existential crisis. What if this character was the real me and I was the fictional being. What if this character actual became aware of my existence? Did this character have the ability to become self aware itself?
I haven't played TF2 for some time, but played hundreds of hours of it on release and for some years after. Listening to some of those class quote videos and I still laugh at some of the lines.
I've played probably close to 100 hours of Overwatch from beta and release and haven't laughed once.
Tf2's character all work and are connected by one consistent artstyle (hats not included of course)
Overwatch's characters just don't fit together, and are way more forgettable and shallow
>>340768317
Am I missing something? There are literally dozens of "gentilicios" that end on "ano".
>>340768406
Well, this is just your opinion mate, I can clearly see you hate it for some weird reason. As an artist in training myself, I love them, they are really clean.
>>340768535
Again, another opinion. Woah, do you usually hate things that are popular? Btw, nostalgia teenagers are usually the main people behind the TF2 crowd around here.
>>340768927
Well, yeah, Overwatch was actually shown in movie theathers, sponsored by fucking Coca Cola and went on to have real life size figures on different parts of the globe.
Hell, even the fucking Manchester United want to buy teams to compete on Esports.
Overwatch is already huge, unlike the poor attempts at being an iconic shooter of the last years (Destiny, etc) Blizzard struck gold. This is it, is the game to be remembered. You KNOW it on the back of your head. Why is so hard to accept?
>>340767058
Who pisses in a jar in Overwatch?
>>340769835
Thanks for the 3rd (you). Here's yours.
Overwatch right now. TF2 before the cosmetics holocaust.
TF2 was a gaming masterpiece when it came out. I thought I was gonna play it for the rest of my life in like 2008-2012 range.
I played like 40 hours of Overwatch and I'm already bored. The worst part is how many design decisions lifted straight from TF2 and they still blew it.
>>340770012
>This is it, is the game to be remembered.
nice opinion
>>340769915
Tl;Dr faggot.
Tf2 has alot more voice lines with them throwing shit at each other which was pretty good.
Hearing so few voice lines, while understandabld between 21 characters, it gets old quick. Reaaaaally quick.
Then cohesion. Tf2 dudes look like they're from the same planet. Guys at overwatch look like freaks from other dimensions, akin to a moba.
And then tf2 doesn'ttake itself too seriously, just hearing merasmus and soldier spewing shit and each other then saying they'll meet back home is hilarious. Hearing mei and tracer circlejerking each other is cringy as fuck.
>>340767058
the sniper isn't Australian read the fucking comics
>>340770104
>TF2 before the cosmetics holocaust.
>I hate hats but love Overwatch's lore-compatible skins
???
>>340763667
GO TO /vg/ YOU SPAMMING OVERSHITS
Low skill garbage players and tumblr
>>340769339
Right, various texures of shit are better than just one
>>340770209
I think the confused one here is you, he's talking abiut junkrat and roadhog
>>340770239
This is hilarious to me considering all the butthurt about that one JRPG that had a native american costume in it
It really is okay when Blizzard does it.
>>340764062
>Where's your precious hippo crates now?
Every time
>>340770209
Then why does he scream like an Australian?
>>340769018
>here's what I have that you don't, a functioning liver, depth perception, and a pulse!
>>340770134
Tons of characters of all nations with great personality behind their animations and voices. Is a fucking FPS, million dollars cinematics, huge company behind known for supporting their games for literally decades. Born in the boom of twitch and streamers. Designed by some of the best artists/designers on the west. Gameplay first as a fucking goldplate on the center of Blizzard HQ. Compared to mobas, being a FPS, the most popular genre of games in the world.
It have it all mate, it isn't only an opinion.
>>340769018
>tf2 having personality and voice acting
Screaming and autism isn't voice acting.
>>340770415
>As long as nothing supernatural happens this should be easy
Something supernatural happens
>Why do we get assignments like this in this time of the year?
Always gets me how spy is self aware of this
>>340770012
>Hell, even the fucking Manchester United want to buy teams to compete on Esports.
its because e-sports are insanely profitable compared to traditional sports in terms of investments you subhuman latin american retard. Medical costs are far lower. Insurance is far lower. Broadcasting it doesn't have you negotiate huge contracts, and you have a gigantic fanbase.
Yet the games that became eSports were organic in nature. SC:BW became an Esport because there were many young koreans who were laid off and were sitting at home waiting for a job. DoTA became an Esport because it is a free game that had a great run on battlenet for years before valve picked it up.
Overwatch is not that entertaining to watch by comparison.
>>340770493
tf2 has lasted a decade and still has tens of thousands of players consistently. Overwatch will be dead within the next few years.
>>340764062
>>340769018
How can you actually find this funny?
It's literally bazinga tier humor
>>340764062
>Real nice effort Deutsch-bag
One thing that I always loved was how they named the items. Killing gloves of boxing. Seems like a usual name and another usual item on heavy. Read it's acronym. Killing gloves of boxing = KGB (Russians secret police)
>>340770679
Because it never takes itself seriously, they're spewing shit while killing dudes and sometimes making clever puns.
I haven't heard a good joke in overwatch at all, if any, from the characters.
Overwatch is super low skill compared to TF2.
Overwatch has insanely unbalanced offensive classes that are always useful and has "hella Fr*ickin epic" ultimate abilities.
Right now there is no reason not to have a McCree, Mercy, Widowmaker on every team competitively. In pubs offensive classes dominate and are the primary ones played besides the snipers. No one wants to play boring Hold Shield man. No one wants to play Buddhist Robot man. No one wants to play pointless Shield poo in loo.
Half the cast in overwatch is pointless
>>340770679
Better than overwatch "humor" at least
>>340770493
people put the same argument for HoTS. Established and beloved characters from blizzard IPs duking it out, and look at it now.
>>340763825
This. Both are soulless cashgrabs.
TF2 has better comics.
New comic fucking never, though.
>>340770239
You really cant figure this one out by yourself? Having six, head-to-toe character skins specifically designed for each hero is a lot different than the cosmetic holocaust that anon referred to, in which valve just pumped out tons of fucking random clothing items that could be equipped to everyone.
It wasnt an awful idea, but its a bit like putting too many toppings on a bowl of icecream. After awhile is just like thats enough sprinkles dude the ice cream already is double fudge brownie
>>340770580
Should we all put on fake Cockney accents like your precious tracer? kys
>>340770679
trash talking is never subtle.
>>340768408
>>340765195
TF2 is still the exact same game, you've just fallen victim to shitposts
>>340770493
What the hell? Is this a real life shill?
>>340770957
>inb4 hats killed the game for me
>>340763667
overwatch easily..i played tf2 on release..the artstyle makes me aggresive...its like 5 teemos on a map
>>340770353
>all the butthurt about that one JRPG that had a native american costume in it
But the butthurt was because the native american costume was censored for a cowboy
>>340770679
>kill a man with a baseball bat
> "say goodbye to your kneecaps chucklehead" plays through your speakers
Its pretty funny desu you must just not have any lads to play with. Did you not play TF2 on release?
>>340770812
>I haven't heard a good joke in overwatch at all, if any, from the characters.
I haven't heard any good joke in CS:GO either, that means jack shit.
Either way, hearing "DIE DIE DIE" is way funnier than any le ebin TF2 pun
>>340770580
Because you're gonna be all nice like tracer, lucio and mei or civil like symmetra in the heat of battle. Fuck off
Only reinhardt screams like a madman
>>340770904
Mad faggot? You should be because that fake accent is better than fart noises.
>>340764062
Scout is the key to TF2. Because he's a funnier character than we've ever had in any of the Valve games before.
>>340769425
I do agree about the dota 2 characters having great design and voice lines. But to be fair, we can't really give all the praise to valve for that. All the current characters are pasted from dota 1, so i would say that the rework of the heroes are good but it is not created from the ground up.
>>340770887
Everywhere else you go everyone loves the hats in TF2. They sell for hundreds of dollars.
On no fun allowed /v/ somehow cosmetics (released by the company so they could make money from their FREE game) effected a game's stellar gameplay
>>340770630
what? Why did you think that "explaining" why they are doing it diminish in any way or form that finally the huge "real" sport companies are finally betting on e-sports AND on this videogame? You could apply the same kind of though to literally everything. AND hell, why isn't the fucking Manchester United buying TF2 teams atm?
Overwatch may not be entertaining to watch TO YOU. Why do you think you can place yourself on my head (or anyone) and know whether or not they are having fun? They already are big on twitch.
>>340770648
And this is based on?
>>340770854
HotS is a shame. It came out late and not worked nearly as much as Overwatch. Let's see how it does now that the SC2 team finally moved on to it 100% with 150+ people on it.
>>340771000
I wish. I fucking need money to pay my bills ; _ ;
>play as genji
>see voice lines
>no "B-baka"
Fucking Dropped.
>>340771193
Cs: GO is just a generic shooter with generic characters, it's more about the gameplay, tf2 is more about everything else
Overwatch takes itself way too seriously, half the characters are edgelords, in a game where chatacters are animated to make you think they're brought to live.
Not my fault your a hollow shell on the inside
>>340763667
Oh TF2 without a doubt. The thing about Overwatch is that it's heavily constrained by its T rating, so all the dialogue lacks any sort of edge. Not only that, but they also hesitate to include anything at all that could even be construed as mean-spirited. It desperately wants to capture that family-friendly, scrubbed clean pixar feel, except that kind of philosophy clashes with a competitive FPS game where you murder everyone.
TF2 on the other hand, goes in the polar opposite direction. It manages to be bombastically violent and crude in a way that fits the gameplay, while still being charming. The characters' personalities all have that slight hint of insanity that makes it feel in character when they go on mass killing sprees. Seriously, just listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzZ6GrRTgrM and imagine any of the Overwatch characters saying anything even remotely similar.
One other thing that really bugs me about Overwatch is how "pandery" all the characters feel. Like they were manufactured specifically to appeal to certain demographics.
>>340771229
Yes, some of the visual design is copy and pasted, but there are a lot of completely remade visual and audio gems.
>>340771197
Actiblizz games have no soul
Blizzard has no idea how to balence a shooter there will always be entirely useless classes like symmatra. Enjoy McCree/WidowWatch
>>340771195
Yeah because both these shooters are laid back and causal. I would rather hear decent voice acting instead of HAAAAATS.
>>340771446
>Overwatch takes itself way too seriously
It literally doesn't. All characters are meme characters but that doesn't mean they need to have 500 different epic puns so that 10 year olds will find the gam entertaining
>"Scotland is not a real country! You are an Englishman wearing a dress!"
That one quote alone has better writing than all voice lines in Overwatch combined.
>>340771361
>And this is based on?
Steamcharts you fucking retard. A real life fucking shill.
>>340771193
SNEAKY-BEAKY-LIKE
>>340771482
>no soul
see, I think overwatch pales in comparison to TF2, but 'soul' is not an argument
>>340771361
Its because esports in general is becoming more mainstream you moron. They even opened a dota 2 championship in my country and people here barely have an internet connection that they can use to browse facebook.
>>340771497
>Decent voice acting
>Overwatch
Not really, no
I'LL SEND MY CONDOLENCES TO YOUR KANGAROO WIFE
>>340771595
Mah nigga. That and spy's "You died as you lived: morbidly obese!"
>>340770648
Steam charts literally told you that in the future Overwatch will be dead? Look at the fucking idiot not even thinking without replying.
>>340771720
So yeah, once more, born in the BOOM of e-sports. It have everything aligned to be played for decades. Mark my words anon.
>>340771482
>useless classes like symmatra
Kill yourself
Its weird. Blizzard used to have excellent Voice acting even when they were a minnow of a company, but now their dialogs are pretty bad.
>>340771193
ez pz lemon squeezy
bingo bango bongo bish bash bosh
>>340767672
DoW wasnt really funny, just cool
CoH was funny because real soldiers have funny bantz
>>340771897
meant to:
>>340771601
>>340771450
>here lies scout. He ran fast, and died a virgin.
>>340763997
I couldn't quite put my finger on it about why I thought TF2 had more personality but I think this is spot on
>>340771037they only hate the hats because theirs were shit :^)
The Black Scottish Cyclops.. now extinct!
>>340771975
either way, their voice acting stayed with you.
A scared tankbuster infantry screaming
>"Panzerschreck, time to unpimp his ride!"
at the top of his lungs will always be better than
>JIM RAYNOR, I BRING TIDINGS OF DOOOM
>>340764761
Yeah I see what you mean. I don't think that many are cringe worthy, I personally just think most are underwhelming/plain and just a couple are actually a little interesting
>>340771997
I'm not saying that overwatch will be dead within a couple years. That anon asked for a source on tf2's playerbase.
>>340772152
HEAVY PANZER UNDER INFANTRY ATTACK
WHY I AM SCREAMING THIS?
>boring middle aged white men trying to be le funny
or
>hero with actual background and personalities
oh i wonder
>>340764062
TF2's Mercs have enough personality and charm to make me chuckle like an idiot for 5 minutes.
But the game did a great job of ruining itself.
Overwatch needs more interaction between heroes, especially in the middle of battle. There's not enough voice lines to keep the characters active and engaged with each other.
TF2 is good when you're still in that retarded phase. Overwatch has no personality but it is playable when you're an adult. TF2 is not.
It's like shitty deadpool cosplayers at conventions.
>>340770957
Diablo style weapons make it the same game?
>>340768754
The Engineer is a pragmatic and collected person who doesn't let himself be disturbed or distracted by the bad things on the battlefield. He's the undisputed best in his field, perfectly executing his marvelous designs, yet at the same time there is some sort of carelessness surrouding him. It's probably the texan blood. He will sit down besides his turrets and play on his guitar a little, mostly because he knows, he doesn't have to fire a single shot himself in order to win.
Torbjörn is an older man with a passion for building things, waiting for all the pieces to come together to give physical form to the things he has in his mind. He has a more simple stance towards engineering, cartoonishly beating his turrets with a hammer to level them up and such. He uses older, more simple methods, and he doesn't like newer things. For him, building things is not an art, (looking at you symmetra) but hard work. But as he says, hard work pays off.
>>340772227
People kind of forget TF2 got a lot of voice lines over the years.
At release it didnt have that much
>>340769915
>>340769174
>>340768628
>>340768886
so this is how dumb tf2 players are
You know what you and Jane Austen have in common? You're both dead women.
>>340764062
Are there any good vanilla/no unlock servers? Every time I fire up the game and see everyone in fluorescent pink hats and gold chains I want to punch the screen.
>>340772206
I AM that anon and I didn't ask for TF2 playerbase, you moron, I asked how you can fucking foresee the future. Get own idiot. Go to jail already.
>>340766967
THIS.
I AM DRUNK, YOU DONT HAVE AN EXCUSE
>>340772216
Break down the background/personality of ANY of the characters in OW. ANY of them.
>>340772402
How the fuck can you connect with overwatch's characters? You a gun slinging cowboy anon?
>>340772437
Use the no-hats mod if hats bother you so much.
>>340763667
TF2 without a doubt, and this is coming from someone who is having a ton of fun with overwatch.
Its a fresh take on that type of game which makes it fun to me, but TF2 has alot more charm imo.
>>340772214
>Heavy german tank knocks out a su 76
>"Thats why they call it a little bitch"
thats too funny.
and yet when your brave conscripts yell out "there are no cowards here", you kinda want those guys to get back to their slavic shithole homes safe and sound.
None of this matters.
>Which game has a dev team
Overwatch
Tadaaah
>>340772381
>tfw Valve forgot to apply their filters to the pyro halloween lines and he sounded like a guy talking into a cup for months
>>340772504
stop posting anon
>>340772491
Name any.
>>340772670
So you don't the characters in Overwatch. Hilarious.
>>340772441
For a fps to stand the test of time it need's to have mods and community servers. After a while blowing shit up get's old. And ofc blizzard being the jews they are cant even allow two of these basic things. Quake, CS:GO all have them.
>>340771897
overwatch won't be played for as long because
>its is not f2p
>it is too early to tell whether or not it's esports scene will stick.
Once something flashier comes out, it will attract more people. Personally, I hope it's lawbreakers, because that game looks pretty old school arena shooter typey.
>>340771975
IF A MOUSE FARTS IN THIS GOD DAMN MINEFIELD I WANT ITS ASS BLOWN SKY HIGH
>>340771262
Youre either dumb or dense as fuck
Just because something is tacky doesn't mean people arent going to buy it simply to use it for status. Even if people dont like the cosmetics, the fact is there in the game so even people that might not care much for them would most likely feel compelled to use the feature after playing for some time.
No it doesnt affect gameplay but it sure looks ugly and undoes a lot of the hard work that went into the game's charm in my opinion.
Although I dont know if going as rigid as only offering six complete makeovers behind paywalls is the way to go either. CSGO hasnt seemed to fuck up their aesthetics overall via their cosmetic implementation, unless youre watching a twitch stream
>>340772580
Oh dear... Is this your first Blizzard game?
>>340772504
Not him, but yeah. I compete in fast draw competitions. You should try it. Loads of fun, unlike brony fortress 2.
How many interesting abilities and mechanics do the characters in TF2 have?
Or is puns and hats all that matters to TF2-players?
>>340772348
>exact same length
>>340772743
anon, its a rhetorical question.
>>340772580
>No patch in 3 weeks
Tf2 would've shat more than 5 patches already. So much for a dev team huh
>>340772761
>esports
>twenty tick servers and auto-aim
Someone link all the auto-aim videos. We just had a big thread yesterday and some anons must have saved them
>>340772863
>Overwatch
>interesting abilities and mechanics
>>340769584
Think he's actually saying they're both good, not that one is inherently better.
>>340772743
I'm asking you to pick whoever you want a breakdown of.
>>340772743
*don't know.
>>340772871
It's not even shilling, you're just legitimately, actually retarded at this point.
>>340772786
Riflemen said profound things though
>Stay by me and I will keep you alive
>I have seen enough killing to last me 10 lifetimes.
>>340772572
>I told my mother we saw panthers, elephants and tigers, she through i was in the Moscow zoo
some are kinda silly but they still bring a smile to my face
>>340772823
You would have known that you can easily disable hats if you google search. TF2 is customizable. Don't like something? You can fucking change it
Considering there's a 9 year gap between TF2 and Overwatch comparing these two games is like comparing TF2 to Half-Life. The original one.
People having this discussion is a testament to how well TF2 has held up.
>>340773009
conscripts are adorable desu.
So are ostruppen.
>I suppose you need cannon fodder!
shouldn't have picked the wrong side to join you hohol :^)
>>340772973
I am not even that person. Overwatch characters sound like something someone wrote up for their first pathfinder campaign.
>>340772749
Anon, all that Blizzard needs to do is this little thing: "expansion". There, Coca Cola advertisement and more cinematics on theaters AGAIN. First page on /v for months all over again.
>>340772761
Not a single shooter on the last 5 years come close to Overwatch popularity as a NEW IP. Just on the first week it sold more than 7 million copies. More than Diablo 3.
>>340772216
I'm detecting some high levels of sjw residue
>>340770012
>Am I missing something?
It's a meme from /int/, ignore it
>>340772876
Don't forget the summer patch that's coming in a few weeks. It's hyped up as even bigger than the f2p update. Matchmaking for a first
>>340772985
Watch it Hermut, theyre scratching our paintjob
Proud nazi laughs*
>>340773229
post yfw you found out those sodas gave you health
>>340772970
So you don't actually know anybody.
Let ME break it down to you:
I give you ONE VERY SIMPLE THING to do: break down a character in Overwatch of YOUR choosing
But you, instead of doing so, you ask me the character because of one of two possible reasons:
You are actually an imbecile
You want me to name you a character you will then search on Google so you can grab information from other places instead of providing it yourself
If OW characters were how you say they are you wouldn't need such tactics.
>>340764062
>"today ain't your day, pancakes."
>>340772338
More or less, but the last couple campaign updates did a good job of turning most of the +/-stat weapons into viable sidegrades.
Stock is still king for most classes.
>>340773246
>Anon, all that Blizzard needs to do is this little thing: expansion.
Which cost money to buy. You can make anything for free in tf2 and distribute it. You know I can bet that's why they didn't add this at launch. A $60 expansion is coming
>>340773397
WHAT?
H
A
T
?
TF2 for originality
Overwatch while fun is quite derivative. The story is just Animatrix's Second Renaissance meets Watchmen.
>>340773361
and yet, when they are fighting at low health
>HIT ZEM, WE STILL HAVE SHELLS
>WE WILL TAKE THEM WITH US
no little kitteh, go back so that the pioneers can repair you, you must yet live.
Sc2 cannot even compete in terms of sound quality or campaign gameplay.
>>340773491
Literal sperg.
>>340764062
"Heres a schematic for ya....my ass!"
fuckin great
>>340773229
or how high valve fans are up their own asses
might as well start complementing wow for being so fucking old yet people still play it and keep comparing it to everything
>>340773596
>The story is just Animatrix's Second Renaissance meets Watchmen.
...interesting comparison
>>340773545
you mean to say you never hit anything with crowbars?
What the fuck were you doing anon?
TF2 At its prime >>>> overwatch > current tf2
This thread confirmed my suspicions of /v/ having blizzard marketers.
>>340773729
Upset I caught on to you?
>>340773596
>videogames
>plots
>lore
Overwatch AT LEAST have something going on. I don't see anything at all on TF2.
But in any case:
http://www.theonion.com/article/7-year-old-unable-maintain-single-cohesive-storyli-53078
>>340764062
I really really miss TF2, lads.
>>340774325
just remember the good times and be happy anon. It gets easier that way.
>>340774275
>it have something going on
like what?
>>340766771
[shilling intensifies]
>>340774071
every fucking video game company under the sun shill here, m8.
>>340767603
i wish he still did skits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzAcfShmNsU