https://robertsspaceindustries.com/tos
DO NOT AGREE TO THE NEW TOS IF YOU WANT A STAR CITIZEN REFUND
>can't sue them
>they are under no obligation to deliver the game
>no refunds
>they can ban you for any reason and never give you a refund
>they can end up delivering whatever they like with no guarantee it's what you backed
>DO NOT AGREE TO THE NEW STAR CITIZEN TOS IF YOU WANT A REFUND
http://imgur.com/a/Ov1Tt
Who is stupid enough to give Chris Roberts money.
Just look at his history in game development and all the red flags rise up.
>>340751634
i literally don't know how people still give him money
he's up to what, 115 million now?
They're gonna pull a EQLandmark and release a quarter finished piece of shit just to keep people from refunds.
>>340754289
>implying SOE had any development team /direction/resources to begin with
>>340751483
I got it for $30 in a sale, had some fun when they first released that universe test. Figure worst case I'll get a freelancer clone out of it.
Completely baffles me why people sink tons of money into it though.
>>340754448
For the same reason that people are upset over how people spend their money; they're retarded.
Just like most of /v/.
>>340754584
It's not about that they spend their money in.
It's about voting with your wallet. If people sink money into this, other devs catch on and do the same thing.
At the end, money is provided but no product is delivered
Wait, what happens if we say no?
DEREK SMART IS RIGHT AGAIN
>>340754748
Oh no, how terrible.
Can simply not buy that as well.
>>340754748
>voting with your wallet
A true cuck eh lad?
According to that logic, we need more CoD clones not less.
>>340754852
Are you literally retarded?
>>340751483
>Getting a refund for donation pledge
Who said you were ever entitled?
>>340754990
No, only figuratively.
>>340751483
You dense motherfucker
>In the unlikely event that RSI is not able to deliver the Game and/or the pledge items, RSI agrees to refund any unearned portion of your Pledge, and to post an audited cost accounting on the Website to fully explain the use of the amounts paid for Pledge Item Cost and the Game Cost.
>yfw you didn't back Scam Citizen
>>340754990
see the post above you anon
"voting with your wallet" literally never amounted to anything as an argument, as much as voting for the "deserving" political candidate like as if there's only one right choice.
>>340754748
this is the dumbest thing i've heard all week
>>340754584
You seriously don't see a problem with people spending literally THOUSANDS of dollars on a single ITEM in a game?
Like, at that point it's a legitimate problem.
I'm glad people are giving him money so I don't have to. if he makes a game then I'll buy it. if not then no skin off my dick
>>340755101
First of all, citation instead of reaction image.
But secondly
>In the unlikely event
That would be proving your account somehow mangles everything making it useless, the game client refuses to work, and anything CS can try to do also somehow gets mangled in the process, so you literally can't use what you paid money for to play the game in like 3 or 4 different ways that simply cannot happen without EVERYONE losing out, forever and ever.
Which would be some unimaginable unforeseeable colossal fuckup that devolves from the current state of the game.
>>340755279
Nope. Their money.
Learn to let go.
>>340755328
ctrl + f it yourself faggot.
>>340755353
You are retarded, then.
>>340755479
Yeah, but only figuratively ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>340754516
>real money purchases of $15k
jesus.
I mean, I have difficulty justifying Director's commentary DLC, or $100 special editions. who in the right minds can afford that and actually wants that
>>340755467
Just noticed
>unearned
Basically, if I got this right, if for example a game license doesn't redeem for whatever reason beyond your control, you can claim a refund on the game, but you keep everything else and cannot be refunded it e.g. ships and bonuses.
And even then CS would just activate your account instead so you get it as the rest of your items would be worthless without it.
>>340755279
People are willing to do it and it funds the game. You can buy it for 30 bucks if you want
>>340754516
Yet I have a ton of those ships and I only paid $30 for the base game :^)
You'll be able to get those ships within the first month of playing easy.
>>340756014
Not the issue. It's like a gambling problem, except these people are literally getting nothing out of it but digital shit.
>>340756117
How terrible.
Better complain on /v/ about other people's problems some more.
>>340756117
At the least the development of the game has benefited massively from it.
Unlike Overwatch, TF2, CS:GO and Dota 2 (skins and taunts are not fucking progress Valve).
>You acknowledge and agree that the Game and the pledge items delivered to you may differ in certain aspects from the description of the Game and those pledge items that was available on the Website at the time of your Pledge.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttt
I gave these guys $140
>>340756117
So you're mad at people being stupid. Don't blame the game, which has shown a lot of potential with what they have right now.
>>340756205
This. Who the fuck cares if some sperg spends $1500 of his own money on virtual ships? I'm getting a better game out of it, and I got those ships without spending real money beyond the initial $30 buy2play purchase.
>>340756213
The same warning is on the store pages and the payment page - that stats and mechanics might change because its in development. Has had that for years.
Stop being retarded.
Who is playing 2.4 here? When are one of you shitty group fags going to remake the general?
>>340756694
Really not worth making the general for.
More of an incremental upgrade than anything, and all it would devolve into would be shitposting. Can get that here.
>>340756491
I haven't bought anything since the pledge so fuck off
>>340756694
I'm playing. I only have an Aurora but it's fun. Might upgrade to the Aegis.
I'm just glad it resembles a MMO with persistence finally.
>>340751483
Fucking kek. He already knows the game will be a dud and is covering his bases.
Hope all you cucks loved giving this guy more money.
>>340756819
>the Aegis
Thats a manufacturer.
>>340751483
>he thinks that who fell for scam citizen is sensible enough to pull out ever
ayyy
Every time I boot up the game I keep getting this error afterwords the game closes down.
why here out of all places derek
no one here bought the fucking game you idiot, stick to SA
>>340757336
God Something Awful's circlejerk is worse than the RSI forums
>>340756213
Enjoy your pizza explosions.
>>340757263
It constantly crashes anyways, you'd think 3 fucking years into it, they could at least make a stable beta.
>>340757263
Other people are getting the error too seems to be a server problem on their end.
after 4 years of development and a budget of $115 million dollars, how are these pieces of shit not able to make a stable beta?
Honestly asking this question.
>>340758329
>>340758029
Runs perfectly for me and I'm on a 6700K/980ti/16GB of DDR4 on Windows 10
>mfw playing Elite Dangerous and enjoying the fuck out of it.
Sorry about your game guys.
>>340758329
It's not a beta
>>340758423
google client crashes and be amazed
>>340758423
>works on my machine :^)
>>340758659
There's a thousand different variables that could make your game crash/performance tank. I learned this after reformatting using the same exact hardware and the same exact OS version
Just wait a bit or do a fresh install and see what's going on.
>>340758543
Elite Dangerous has a similar amount of depth you see in the Star Citizen alpha currently.
>>340758713
Who KWA here?
>>340754584
>upset
they are mocking you
>Americans can sign their rights away
>>340758946
I don't know anything about American law
>>340757336
https://youtu.be/tIn1_9YvGds
Derek Smart relies on SA now?
>>340759073
Far left best, followed by second from right.
What kind of game is this? A money wasting sim?
>>340751483
>Implying the bank won't be on your side if you want a refund
>Implying any judge will listen to a TOS
How do you retards survive in the real world?
>>340759549
It's EVE Online with planetary/space gameplay where you actually control your toon
>>340751483
>Get a ToS update for a game I already own and play
>Don't agree to ToS
>Don't get to play the game
>Agree to ToS
>Don't want to play the game
>Can't get a refund
I'm probably in the minority here but I do enjoy the game. That said what exactly am I supposed to do in this situation. I figure if I wanted a refund at this stage I would have gotten it long ago anyway
>>340759746
>>340759746
Actually it's not real
>>340759843
>>340759828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blPpnnSOiwk
Some sperg edited out the actual interview with Chris Roberts and did this
>>340759810
This shit doesn't hold up in court fag lord. If you enjoy the game game just accept.
>>340759926
>>340759926
HAHAHHAAHAHAHA
>>340754802
You get blocked from playing until you say yes.
>>340759926
/v/, think about this, there are real people on this planet in the United States that think they are animals and the only way to live is to wear a costume and pretend to be a dog. There's even a further subsection of these people who are sexually attracted to dogs and people in dog costumes.
Think about that.
>>340760874
Atleast they are doing what they love. I mean, I could give any less shits if they spend their money on dog costumes, As long as I can waste my money on shitty games.
>>340751483
THANK YOU CON MAN
>>340761076
>Atleast they are doing what they love
You mean being beyond point of salvation-tier degenerate and a disgusting embarrasment of western society?
Literally only reason these people aren't in mental wards and being fixed by psychologists is because the countries they live in have governments that have either cut corners on the budget for mental asylums and/or simply don't bother getting these people re-educated or euthanized.
>>340755113
>>340761738
Who gives a shit? They aren't doing anything to affect you. You sound like a fucking feminist getting triggered by things that in no way affect you.
>>340762186
It does affect me, if you legitimately think you are a dog inside a human body, you're crazy. It's really straight forward, and you should be put in an institution.
>>340762186
>teaching your childrens that is normal to change gender/species does not affect you or the society you live in
>>340762186
Also on top of that, if you're sexually attracted to that kind of shit, you're a danger to kids everywhere
>>340762186
You need to define what's normal or abnormal aka acceptable behaviour to your child. "Whatever, anything goes" will result in disaster.
>>340762186
>they aren't doing anything to affect you
Yes they are, they fucking disgust me with their literally animalistic behaviour.
By definition, people who want to be and/or pretend to be animals in public are insane and have zero place in society outside a padded cell.
Fuck off you dumbshit closet furfag apologist and jump off the tallest building within 500-kilometer radius, the fact you even try to argue about this invalidates your right to exist.
>>340751483
they already refuse refunds on the old ToS
they are massive cunts
>>340763125
>implying anyone on /v/ will be able to procreate
lel
>>340763424
>implying I don't Bill cosby a chick in every city I visit to try and spread my family's genetics as the last living male.
>DSmart was RIGTH
>Plebbitors BFTO again
>Star Citizen drones will STILL defend this
>>340764196
>After a crappy half-assed module like the current universe demo is released, and an unfinished Squadron 42, before the studio closes up.
Hey well it's a lot more than we had before! Space Sims were dead! Chris Roberts has reinvigorated a genre!
>>340755113
>>340764576
>the studio
Nigga they have three or four studios. Opening up three functioning studios just to run with 100 mil is a stretch.
Guys, give me 115 million dollars, I PROMISE I'll deliver. Pinky swear! I have no legal obligation to do so and I don't even have to deliver the exact same product I promised you, but it'll be really good! Just trust me, despite not delivering any indication that it will be as I say.
Oh, by the way, if you criticize the fact that I spend hundreds of thousands of these dollars on luxuries and vacations, you're banned. So please, will you give me your money now?
>>340765114
No. I will not.
>>340762186
They're harming themselves by being mentally ill, ridiculing them and forcing them into an acceptable and better life is the best course of action
They'll be thankful that you've helped saving them, instead of being a "no hurts feelings allowed" mentality little bitch who's afraid of criticizing or offending anyone, that counts for every mentally ill behavior, including furfaggotry and SJWism
what do
Why don't people just play Elite Dangerous?
>>340765646
this is actually the better question.
>>340765472
>Implying furfags can't MAGA
You're just mad jelly you don't have our money.
:^)
>>340765114
B-b-but i already gave you all my money. I had to take out a second mortgage on my house since i gave so much.
>>340765646
we already played it ages ago and saw everything it had to offer after about 15 hours.
>>340765891
It's come a long way, and soon it will have fps boarding and everything.
It's only going to get better
>>340765551
are you me?
i'm tryin to get a 1500$ refund myself.
seeing hostile their customer support is, I think not accepting their new ToS and taking them to court is the only option.
>>340756205
>At the least the development of the game has benefited massively from it.
>>340756349
>I'm getting a better game out of it
>actually thinking this game will benefit from $15,000 donations
lul my afrulite im launching a Kek into Orbit please
>>340765646
when i first played ED it was too much for me, and the ships felt too small.
I didn't see any gameplay worth it and had a hard time adapting to the controls.
>>340759994
But unless your a drone who actually spent thousands of dollars, the legal fees to get a refund will exceed the refund itself.
>>340765646
Because Elite Dangerous is shit. Everyone in /vg/ has come to the decision that shitposting in the general is more fun than playing the game.
>>340766154
sweet summer child i was offered an out over a year ago now and settled for continued concierge access. they even ended up unbanning me.
it's too late now and you'll only waste your time in court
hail ciggy
>>340765646
>"Playing" a game that is a clinical cure for insomnia
I honestly have no sympathy for people who are literally betting thousands of dollars on a game that doesn't exist and will not exist for fucking years.
I know how easy it is to fall in to hype, even for something as simple as an idea, but you must be a special kind of retard to spend money on it.
>>340764097
>Derek Smart
>being right
If he were ever right Battlecruiser 3000 would not be shit and Line of Defense would have a playerbase.
Please stop being retarded, weeb.
>>340765071
He doesn't want to run, he wants to keep the game stuck in development hell for as long as possible, because that means the donations keep coming in and the pre-release DLC keeps selling
All of which goes directly into Roberts' own pocket as profit
It's honestly a good scam he has set up, as soon as the well runs dry they can just release whatever shit they're cooking up as a finished product and walk away with no repercussions whatsoever
I'm baffled at how they got $115,000,000
That's an over 100 million dollar gap between the 2nd biggest vidya crowdfunding, what's their secret?
>>340754516
>>340766673
Those can be swapped. And applied to every game he's ever made.
Had Dr. Derek Smart MD PhD ever made a game that wasn't total shit, a buggy mess, and had no audience?
>>340766154
Or charge back them.
>Thinking your bank wouldnt love to get money back on something as easy as refunding a fucking video game.
Call them.
What will happen is your card wont be able to be used for SC shit anymore most likely. Charge backs on steam lock your account.
Its because they are so good.
>>340758543
>boring and shitty game where the only thing you can really do is trade and it's so shallow that it's Freelancer level
No thanks. Not hopeful about Star Citizen though.
>>340751483
>can ban you for no reason and never give you a refund
so like steam?
>>340751483
>there are people who still haven't jumped ship
top lel
>>340758329
It's no where near the scope of any game you've played. face it.
>>340767262
I've got like $500 in the game, Rear Admiral, a M50, and a Khartu-al, no reason to try to get a refund for that. If I wasn't willing to part with it permanently I wouldn't have put the money in in the first place. If it's good, I'll get to brag and enjoy my three LTI ships, if it's shit or never comes out, I'll just shrug it off and go about my day.
Seriously though, guys, never donate/lend money or time unless you can afford to never see it again.
>>340767060
how can i refund something that happend 3 years ago?
max limit on visa chargebacks is 24 months
>>340755113
>Almost backed it to buy the fastest ship they had
>Heard about some of the ridiculous goals they set for themselves like going to planets and having an FPS battle mode
>Realized their ambition overrode their idea of good game design 10 to 1
>Didn't back it because it broke kickstarter/early access rule number 2: Don't back anything if its goals are unrealistic
>That was 3 years ago and they're still not past super simple demos and selling 3d models of ships
The last time I dodged a bullet I'm this proud of was Mighty Number 9. I'm glad I have the 3 tiered system of kickstarter/early access red flags. Only been burned by a kickstarter once in the 12 I've now backed and still have yet to get an Early Access I regret.
>>340755113i hadn't even heard of it until after it was revealed as a scam
>>340766154
>>340765551
How the fuck do you two do it?
>>340768657
i was high as kite and thought it'd be a good idea to order ships.
it was before they essentially started showing evidence of decay and neglect.
before everything was set on a rigged path of failure.
>>340751483
All i wanted was to play Squadron 42 single player game.
Holy shit, this is a con.
And i complained about Egosoft and X-Rebirth, dear god. At least, they forked out a game to play.
>>340767239
what makes you think i use steam?
>>340755119
>>340755149
Economics must be too much for you retards on /v/.
If people continue to financially support shitty products, then whoever is making those shitty products has incentive to continue pumping more of it out.
>>340769000
Have you never heard of a Ponzi scheme?
>>340769000
I've learned from my experience with star citizen, and wont put any money in any game ever again until i can see an actual product.
then again, i did support yooka laylee with a minimum pledge, and that sort of seems to have worked out better than i expected.
>>340768894
>And i complained about Egosoft and X-Rebirth, dear god. At least, they forked out a game to play.
Egosoft can't be said to be cons. X:R shows a lot of ambition that just fell flat on its face with walking in stations being way too big of a task for such a small team etc., and it doesn't help that it was essentially a failed console game.
At least they wanted to and tried to deliver a good game. I'm quite certain that Egosoft is not doing so great financially, and so I honestly sympathise with them for taking on such a big project and having to scramble to salvage it.
>>340769401
Your are getting a 140,000,000 space what's the problem?
>>340768829
>before
it always an obvious scam. they were selling addons for a game that didn't exist
>>340769401
>>340769000
I have literally never gotten severely burned on failed crowdfunding, bad pre-orders or early access games. It's just common fucking sense, isn't it?
Never buy early access games unless you're 100% sure they will be good. NEVER back a crowdfunding project and NEVER pre-order a game, especially if it's shilling with a ton of bonuses because that just means they're not confident that the game will sell on its merit.
>>340751483
> Implying autocracy isn't the best form of government
Blizzard's been unapologetically banning people from Overwatch, this is fine too.
>>340769797
The difference between Overwatch and this is that Overwatch is an actual game that you can play
Star Citizen is literally nothing so far
>>340751483
im so fucking glad i did not give in to the fucking hype
>>340769476
>>340768894
I'm a big fan of X3, havent played Rebirth after I heard how shit it was.
the thing is, the game wasnt developped by the exact same team that made previous X games.
the 'good' team then released a huge patch for Rebirth that , as I've heard, fixes a lot of things in the game and adds new stuff. I heard Rebirth now is very different from the first version, unfortunately no one knows about it.
I still havent bought it tho, but it might be worth a try now.
>>340755113
>>340769945
> Literally figuratively mostly kind of almost nothing
Chill out friend with a hearty round of Arena Commander, or maybe take a break and go shopping for a new space suit and weapons before a trip out to Port Olisar. We've got a lengthy wait before Squadron 42 releases at the end of 2016 or beginning of 2017.
>>340755101
>In the unlikely event that RSI is not able to deliver the Game and/or the pledge items, RSI agrees to refund any unearned portion of your Pledge
>UNEARNED PORTION
And they get to decide what that is, not you, the person who paid for a product. The only thing you get is an audited cost-assessment, which is going to be in their favor.
In other words, you're paying them to make a game, but the way they look at it is you are paying them to develop portions of a game.
You're the dense motherfucker that can't into reading comprehension.
>>340769797
Technocracy is objectively the best form.
>>340755113
Holy shit, what the fuck where you expecting from a company selling ships for 150,000$ USD
>>340755113
>>340756014
in a game where someone can get in for $30, and someone else for $1000, nothing will ever be worth playing.
basically the people who spent >$1000 in SC dont realize that
1) they're paying for something that will never be viable game design wise
2) they're paying someone to sell them a dream
and it works
>not a problem
denying the evidence that hard doesnt make it go away
>>340770847
>nothing will ever be worth playing
This anon has brain problems
>>340770391
>I still havent bought it tho, but it might be worth a try now.
It's pretty decent now, but I still prefer X3.
>>340768045
>Gave money three years ago
>Wants a refund now
You deserve everything.
>>340771110
Rebirth is garbage and will forever be garbage. X3 is also janky as fuck.
>>340771301
Sure, but it's the best one out there that does what X3 does. It's a great game if you manage to overlook the interface, especially with dem scripts and mods.
It's a very good game with some quirky bugs and a somewhat complicated interface that I am willing to overlook simply because the game itself isfunand really good.
>>340771258
well there's a technicallity because they set a date of delivery (release date) that could lead to a refund.
thing is, i genuinely thought they were releasing the game in 2015
with all the promises they made.
desu i've learned else now.
i spend more money (1500$) on generic garbage a month, so it's not that big of a deal for me. It doesn't affect my personal economy. but getting a refund regardless would be nice.
>>340751483
>tfw donated $37 around 2012 because I was playing EVE at the time and really into space games but then I realized its going to suck
>>340769797
>defending autocracy while posting yang wenli
>>340771751
>I genuinely thought they were releasing the game in 2015
Sorry to say anon, but that means you may be retarded. You based your entire purchase on the premise of their shitty little "minimum to make the product" budget. I'm baffled that you paid that much money any way.
>>340770391
That's mostly just a meme. That "B-Team" shit got out of hand around that time with DS2.
They have improved it a good deal, just like they did with all their previous games. The issue is though that unlike the other games that could be patched up into a good game, this game is just fundamentally flawed. That focus on story even though the story is as bad as ever (which is a damn shame because they COULD make a fun story if anyone on the team could write for half a damn), that really lame station idea, and that just lack of races and content.
>>340772193
fell for the hype
For $115 million dollars they could launch 5 people into the real outer space and have 15 million left over to make a tech demo for a scam.
>>340766387
A class-action lawsuit would solve that.
>>340772364
Furries are so 2014, bro
>>340772248
I can understand your distress. That is a lot of money to put into a not yet developed product. Contrary to my experience, I feel pretty good because I get to experience the shit for almost the bare minimum.
Has it been a lesson for you at least?
>>340754516
>In Stock
>Virtual goods
This whole Star Citizen thing has made me realise why Freelancer was cut off in development time by Microsoft. Freelancer is a pretty decent game, but wasn't even close to what was promised in an E3 trailer.
The problem is, if it was given the development time to make all those promises, we'd never see the game at all. Chris Roberts is literally incapable of managing a video game project and if he's left to do as he wishes, which is the case now, the game will never, ever come out.
This game was doomed from the beginning. In a kickstarter projectz, especially this big, people want updates and cool shit every month.
Which forced the devs to quickly develop "playable" stuff instead of focusing on the big picture. You dont build a universe by making one part well polished, release it, and then move on to the next part. You build it somewhat simultaniously, make sure it works together, and polish it at the very end. Which couldnt work because if they didnt release something in a while, people would start bitching.
>>340772732
They don't want 100 Iranian princes buying hundreds of capital ships.
>>340772634
eh. not really.
my giant collection of dragon dildos and various other useless crap sort of speaks for itself.
I'm the kind of guy who spends money ingame in shitty games.
>>340772920
Just identify as a rube, it'll save everyone time.
>>340772920I wish I had an income like yours which allowed me to throw away so much money on virtual goods
>>340773063
funny thing is, i'm a permanent NEET on welfare.
>>340773140
Who needs reminding, anon?
>>340772792
Truth right here.
The huge scale they were talking about from the very beginning was a massive red flag.
>>340751541
>"Hate speech" in a legal document
>>340755113
>>340772902
It would actually be interesting of there were only like 20 or so super expensive capital ships and some Saudi bought them all the establish a Royal Saudi space fleet in game.
>>340755113
Doesn't Chris Roberts have a brother that gets shit done?
Maybe he can save it.
>>340774082
Nothing wrong with mumble.
>>340774334
Its more that we don't use mumble, anon.
Nor am I a homo :^)
>>340751483
Stop giving him money you dumb goyim. How can you keep giving him money. If you stop giving him money he'll either finish the game or just admit that there isn't enough to keep the charade going.
>>340765551
>>340766154
But why do that when you could buy another ship, you guys?
It's going to be great!
One day!
We think!
>>340773802
>mfw googling Plaxinov
>>340774098
Yeah, that actually would be interesting. As much as they like money, their logic is to prevent that though.
>>340775054
Already exists.
>>340775103
The saudi fleet already exists?
>>340768221
I've only backed a single Kickstarter so far and I reserve my judgment til it's been released.
It's taking them a while, but at least it sounds like they're making progress, however slowly.
http://paleblue.tinkerworlds.com/blog/2016/02/15/look-deeper-into-tangled-states/
They can't really into English, though
>>340775212
Ships that can only exist in limited quantity.
>>340756078
then the people who spent 15k to buy them are pretty fucking stupid huh?
>>340774662
Who puts this much effort into this shit? Looks more like goons or reddit trying to split 4chan's users up with propaganda so they'll be weaker, smaller pockets instead of proving to be a real enemy.
>>340775212
There's a Russian guy who owns three Javelins. Those are the largest Cap ships you can buy. I remember someone posting about him in the forums .
>pic related is how I feel about scam citizen
>>340775318
Oh, I'm aware of that. I thought you meant that a person spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to have a fleet of Idris ships.
>>340755113
>tfw you never backed anything
Pic related is so true...
>>340775849
>tfw when you backed a cheap game that you forgot existed because it's been 3 years since you paid
>tfw you'll probably never play it
>tfw you don't care
>tfw you'll never fund anything again
>>340775385
The majority of the whales are the aptly labeled "forum dads" who have money to burn so they can escape their terrible lives. Consequently they're the first to cry about pirates or anyone not playing with carebear gloves. Chris would be fucking stupid to not take their money but they have extremely unrealistic expectations about what encompasses the scope of the game. The scope is still pretty fucking big though.
The larger majority of backers are in the lower game package tiers with a basic starting ship and both portions of the game.
>>340776431
it's okay, because according the the star citizen fanbase/cult all games take 320 years to release.
>>340777215
Honestly I hope the PVP is brutally unforgiving just so I can lick up the forumdad tears as they beg for solo offline mode.
Is there really no way to get an automated refund from the actual website?
What the fuck do I need to do to get my 40 bucks back to my paypal account
>>340778102
Either contact support or sell your shit on pebbit if you have LTI.
>>340772063
Pretty much me, but less dramatic. Felt I could pay three months of EVE for a chance at something shaping up to try to offer what EVE has without a sub.
Watching groups of players be overly dramatic before the game has even released almost justifies the $45 I spent. Grown men acting like they're big bad null corps in a game that isn't even going to be able to facilitate it due to sharding and other mechanics rising and falling like the Mayan empire, all over a game that isn't released.
>Game Cost shall be non-refundable regardless of whether or not RSI is able to complete and deliver the Game and/or the pledge items
the fucking nerve, honestly
holy shit I am so mad
>>340780725
That can be challenged in court though. I suspect that's exactly what's going to happen when this unfinished crap goes belly up.
>>340780949
its pretty ridiculous that they think they can get away with it
Fuck this project, fuck those retards
If you guys listened to Derek Smart from the beginning, you would have gotten a refund when it was possible. Charge back, check your country's consumer protection laws. Act now before they spend the last of their money shooting more mocap scenes for Roberts and his wife's horrible filmmaking fantasies.
>>340780725
>>340780949
>>340781651
Do you realize if RSI ran out of money tomorrow they could raise $100,000,000 easy through investors right? Star Citizen is not going anywhere for the next 5 years.
>>340782229
It's a goon
>>340780949
Nah, since they'll anticipate it bellying up and start having people sign away their rights to class action lawsuits and other such things, since legal stuff is funny like that.
>>340782376
Maybe early on, when people were throwing money at it left and right and giving it free PR, but nowadays it seems to have hit development hell, and could be too big of a risk to invest in for a company.
Star Citizen has more money involved than the entirety of the Destiny trilogy, as an example.
>>340782565
They could raise enough money to fund the project for 7 more years, Destiny was a 500 million dollar project.
Anyone else getting really strong cult-vibes from the whole star citizen thing? Just something about the way they speak, the atmosphere of all their "community videos", the way their pledge system is set up, the culture of it all, it just feels really... strange and not similar at all to any other game developer I've ever seen. It's like a doomsday cult where everyone is waiting for the world to end, but instead of a doomsday scenario that never happens, it's a game that never comes out.
>>340782783
You post this in every thread, man. At least reword it or something.
Chris Roberts is going to deliver on all his promises. You might think the CryEngine monster they've created is an unsalvagable shitheap and that shitcanning Star Marine at the last second after promising it throughout 2015 was a trick to get donation money, but you'd be mistaken. You just don't understand how open game development works.
>>340782739
>destiny was a 500 million dollar project
Neo /v/ everyone.
>Make terms of agreements where they can't be held responsible for literally anything they do.
Animaniacs made fun of this shit back in the 90's.
>>340783145
Truly robert is redefining how game development works
Jesus I need to back someone with this kind of visionary thinking
>>340756694
I'm playing. The graphics somehow look worse after the update for me. I'd post a pic but they are all over 4MB
>>340751483
I spent like $30 on this game two years ago. At this point, I don't really care whether or not it comes out at all - it's no skin off my bones.
>>340782739
But that's because Destiny flatout admitted that the bulk of it was reserved for marketing the game, as opposed to building all three planned titles.
The point is that Activision, one of the major publishers in gaming in this day and age, used all kinds of research and metrics to determine that an FPS series would be worth investing into. These are the same kind of publishers that have constantly denied space games due to how weak their profit rates tend to be. Star Citizen is a horrible investment at this point, since it doesn't even seem to be close to meeting the 2016 deadline for Squadron 42, and the continued development and maintanence fees would just jack the price up even further.
>>340783769
but anon
what if you had invested that $30 two years ago?
>>340782565
>but nowadays it seems to have hit development hell
Amusing, but not particularly true anon.
>>340783884
Then I'd have $35 today.
>>340751483
old TOS always said no refunds and no obligations.
Only people with a right to refund are kickstarter backers
>>340757263
Server's having issues atm
Best Damn Space Sim Ever
how many ship packs do i have to buy before chris jewberts lets me go clear?
>>340751483
This is the exact frame when I knew CR was dumb jew full of shit.
>>340755113
>>340759926
>>340785845
Why is that, anon?
>>340785845
what am i seeing?
>>340787181
Dreams. Dreams, anon.
>>340785742
about tree fiddy
Y'know I had hopes this faggot would come through with his dysfunctional fuckery
So I could see Goonsquad stir Eve Online tiers of shit up by Stealing fucking Frigates, or Carriers from 40 man player crews.
That shit would've been fucking glorious.
>The game is going to fail due to being given too much funding
What a world we live in.
>>340754516
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
Did.....did people buy any of those??
>>340790593
There is a guy who purportedly spent 40k on this dumpster fire of a game.
>>340792512
>>340792512
Can't you buy a COUPLE fucking Sub-Orbital plane flight for that shit nowadays?
I tried to warn you. Why didn't you listen to me?
>>340751483
Did anybody on /v/ ACTUALLY fall for the star citizen scam?
If they did I hope hiroyuki would permanently rangeban them.
![16789_back[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3LQb2Jf.jpg "16789_back[1].jpg")
>>340794412
I mean he is an expert on scam space games.
>>340751483
>>can't sue them
>>no refunds
>>they can ban you for any reason and never give you a refund
This is standard fare for video game / service licenses.
>>they can end up delivering whatever they like with no guarantee it's what you backed
>>they are under no obligation to deliver the game
And this is standard fare for crowdfunded games.
There's nothing new here. There's nothing here to suggest they won't give a user a refund based on these terms either.
>>340794412
>>340794697
>His latest game isn't even on steam any longer
>Had a peak player count of 5 people
>>340794251
No those are still in the 200k range, but the price is kinda up in the air. the New thing they're trying to do is weather balloon style flights into the upper stratosphere.
>>340794412
It's so sad, isn't it Derek? You stick your neck out in order to warn and protect consumers, and the Star Citizen fans drag your name through the mud in response. Star Citizen cultists are basically Scientologists. Your name will be vindicated in the end. We'll all know who warned us to get a refund when CiG starts shitting the bed and Croberts bails out.
>>340795684
How's that peak of 5 players, Derek?
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FLYCKcl.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>340795684
>Star Citizen fans drag your name through the mud in response
Nah he did that to himself a long time ago. People would have been much more willing to listen to him if he wasn't a notorious sheister to begin with.
Shit RSI probably got the idea from his space """"games""""" to begin with.
Now that this game has failed as I predicted, can I get an apology from the Shitizen mod of /vg/ who banned me thirty times in the past two years for criticizing the game (while not actually breaking any rules)?
>>340796093
>derek smarts games are bad, therefore star citizen is good
ill take "logical fallacy" for 1000$ alec
>>340783145
development was too open for people. they couldn't handle it. that's why we haven't seen even one second of SQ42, which they still claim is coming out in five months, and why they had to skip E3 even though their office in Santa Monica is literally five minutes away.
>>340782783
>Anyone else getting really strong cult-vibes from the whole star citizen thing?
The first time I laughed about a blown (self-imposed) release date and had thirty people call me Derek Smart was the moment I realized that the people who sunk tens of thousands of $$$ into this game are all severely mentally ill. It pretty much is a cult of personality. The funniest part is that Chris Roberts has negative charisma and inspires zero confidence among people with the faintest hint of common sense.
