>no cuphead thread
Discussion needs to go on
What's there to discuss? Looks like a pretty standard game, the only remarkable thing is the art style.
Which definitely earns it some points from me but the game itself looks boring.
is there a release date yet
>Boss rush: the game
Yeah, I'm excited as fuck.Day 1 pirate
>>340730603
retard
>>340730603
There are platforming levels you egg.
>>340730603
Didn't they already confirm there are normal levels as well, and bosses were just being made first?
Sure let's discuss.
Uh...
>>340730752
>>340730761
Well, that's fucking retarded then. Not even pirating this 2deep4you 2D artsy platformer shit
Cuphead? More like KEKhead rofl
>that sound design
Yegh
>>340729649
>only interesting thing is the artstyle
>ruin it with chromatic aberration
Trash
>>340731074
You can turn it off.
Shit game for Xcucks and Pcucks
Should be called Cuckhead
>>340730761
Did you actually see the gameplay footage of the normal levels?
It was shit, only a step above an IOS endless runner
>>340730885
Trying too hard
>that strong excessive blur
>>340731174
There's footage of them?
Link?
>>340729649
>nothing to show a year later
should have just just stayed quiet until they were ready to release for everyone to laugh at them tbQH
>mickey mouse with a teacup head
pass
>>340731273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy0bpSyeCuQ
Cant wait for this game. but you'll get no serious discussion here OP. /v/ is nothing but console wars and shit posting. This place was ruined by NeoGAF users
>>340731074
>"ruin" the art style with an effect that is an inherent part of the style itself
>>340731465
Why is the video so blurry? Did IGN stretch it to 1080 from 480?
>>340731465
Why are the foreground platforms done in a completley different style to the characters?
>>340731636
The game has chromatic aberration by default, you can turn it off
>>340729649
>Chromatic blurrination
>>340731785
accurate to the style, deal with it.
>>340731465
Why does the audio not match the visuals? There's no sound effect for landing when jumping, there's no sound for firing your weapon, there's no sound for dashing.
>>340731858
Either unfinished or, more likely, done intentionally match the game's theme of a classic cartoon.
>>340731589
no it's not you retard
stop spewing this misinformation
>mfw this game will flop and fail miserably because the gameplay will be 100% completely basic and boring with nothing exciting or different going on whatsoever
>mfw the devs know that the only reason anyone is even aware of this game is the artstyle
>>340731930
Yes it is, old-timey animation itself may not have looked like this, but the displays used to broadcast them would've made them look this way. Although if.it bothers you that much just disable it.
>>340731930
>i was born in the 90s
>>340731953
Yeah that one level they showed was basically just a straight line with a few gaps crammed with enemies. So far it's looking more basic than a NES game.
Any one could make a better level in Mario Maker.
>>340731998
Only slightly on the sides, not on the whole screen and only if the lenses were shit. Have you ever worked with one?
>>340732008
>I'm a retard
>>340732073
haha you fucking were born in the 90s, have you ever seen a version of popeye that wasnt a remaster, have you ever seen popeye at all? Do you even know what popeye is?
>>340732132
Popeye is a brand of Spinach. What does that have to do with TV?
>>340732073
also the fact that all it's doing in this case is making the entire thing slighty blurry and hard to look at doesn't serve it in the slightest
>>340731998
>>340732476
Was this meant to disprove me?
>>340732468
Yes, making something look worse for no reason is a shitty artistic choice, it's similar to CRT filters which are just as retarded.
Thankfully it can be turned off apparently, so it's okay for someone who actually cares about a less than mediocre game.
>>340729649
Is it even coming out at all?
>>340732715
Trying too hard
>>340731921
Old cartoons had a lot of focus on sound effects syncing with the animation and the animation syncing with the music. I'm going with the former that the sounds are not yet finished for this game.
>>340729649
Platforming gameplay looks a bit ropey desu senpai
Are they still running (and gunning) for the Alien Soldier number of bosses Guinness record?
>>340729649
>hurr Xbone exclusive
>hurr durr Windows store exclusive
>durr hurr Windows 10 exclusive
>huuuurrr boss rush only
>duuuurrr chronic absolution
>duurhruur hipster cartoon artstyle
>reeeeeee PS4 WHEEEN?!?!?
There, got all of the uninformed shitposting out of the way. Now can you faggots stop going full retard like you always do, and ATTEMPT to talk like normal people?
>>340733256
NeoGAF/Sonyggers really did ruin this board
it really bugs me that the game's spread gun is short range
>another pretentious 2d indie sidescroller with its only redeeming quality being the artstyle
>>340733256
What's there to talk about? The game looks like shit and plays like a 2000 flash game.
>>340733382
Way to reveal yourself by replying to his post, retard.
>>340729649
this shit is going to be goty without competition so far
sonyggers on suicide watch
>>340733483
What? Reveal myself?
Posting nonsense won't help shill your game at all.
>>340729649
These graphics hurt my eyes. Like, physically. I like them but I could never play it.
>>340733548
You know exactly what ;^)
>>340733579
No, I don't, and I as well as everyone else would appreciate if you stopped shitposting ITT. You are extremely transparent.
>>340732132
just report and hide, he's obviously trolling
>That aberration
Oh jesus christ no
>>340729649
I'll buy it when it's 75% off
>>340733657
How many levels of irony are you on right now?
Looks awesome desu.
cant wait for it to be released in 5 years on the next gen consoles.
i understand that they're going for a projector look with the abberation but its way too much. If this were an actual cartoon in the 30s the crowd would be screaming "FOCUS!"
its so bad that they had to put in an option to turn it off, you'd think that'd given them a hint or something
I was more excited when I thought it was boss rush only
>>340730603
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>>340733906
What's with all the ignorant shitposting?
Do people even read threads at all anymore or do they just pile in for (You)s, even if they're intentionally making themselves look utterly retarded?
The game itself seems mediocre in non-boss levels to me, but bossfights themselves look fun and we still haven't seen that much non-boss gameplay.
>>340733906
>its so bad that they had to put in an option to turn it off, you'd think that'd given them a hint or something
who cares? literally just press the off switch and stop whining about it.
You, personally, dislike it. They like it. That's why they put it in, and gave you the option to turn it off. There is no issue. Shut your fucking mouth you utter shitstain. Fuck.
>>340734053
yes i am fully aware theres an option to turn it off as i stated in my post, im simply addressing that even so, the effect is way too strong to be considered accurate
and i do agree with you that the platforming parts look really uninspired which is what i was afraid would happen. I wasn't really hoping for a boss-rush game but i'd take a boss rush game over uninspired level design.
>>340734302
I don't think it's too strong considering what they were goinf for, but it's kind of a moot point to make when it can be turned off entirely - so, the only reason you posted about it was to complain it exists.
>>340734053
i was sold on this idea of boss only 30s style cartoon game from day one.
then they announce they're making actual 2d platformer levels
http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/06/09/cuphead-platforming-gameplay-reveal
the thing is it looks well....boring. theres no variation in the 2d platforming. its just duck shoot jump duck shoot jump. you dont even get anything from killing enemies. looks like a total time filler.
now its been 2 years with several delays and i cant help but feel they delayed it so much so they can add these 2d platforming levels. which look mediocre at best.
the boss gameplay looks great though and im still really exited. just wish it would come out.
>>340734053
>What's with all the ignorant shitposting?
there's nothing to discuss besides screenshots. No new gameplay, announcements, anything. What do you want to discuss nigga
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>>340734053
Why does every thread have this one guy dicksucking the game like a vacuum?
Is it one person? The developer? A hired shill?
>>340734527
Hey, I'm sucking the game's dick too, calm down.
I like the look of it and want a boss rush game.
>>340734289
>There is no issue.
as a fan of classic cartoons there is a pretty big fucking issue
The abberation is just one problem of many, they keep pushing that they wanted an accurate classical 30s look but they put in an abberation thats way too strong, they put in scanlines when color cartoons on TV werent for another twenty years, hell its not even actually cel shaded. It wouldn't be so much of an issue if they didn't make it such a big deal.
Then they go and say that they've studied and grown up with a variety of run n guns but in the gameplay department there's a lot of questionable choices. Dont get me wrong, the bosses look complex and interesting. But with shit like almost no audible feedback (hopefully just a wip thing), a ninja dash that makes you literally dissappear (something very troubling for a fast-paced run n gun), a short range spread gun, having to actually press x while touching the other player's ghost while in mid air DURING a boss fight in order to revive them, and an uninspired platforming level makes me wonder if they're truly passionate about what they're making
Of course its way too early to tell but im not optimistic
>>340734997
im banking on the boss fights. im not bothered by the abberation at all. the platforming looks SUPER BORING. holy shit.
>>340730885
Will you fucking tryhard memers kill yourself?
>>340734527
Why does every thread have this one guy using any excuse to shitpost and crying shill when his posts don't make sense?
>>340730897
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>>340734446
I actually agree, as I already touched on in my post. Maybe other platformer levels are better as we've only seen one afaik, but yeah the bosses look leagues better
>It's a "judge the entire game based on the very first tutorial level" episode
Kill yourselves.
>>340731748
Because the foregrounds are waterecolored
The characters are colored digitally(though they're still hand-drawn and inked)
>>340735573
>/v/
>ever not being prejudice
It's why /v/ has no taste
>>340732715
>less than mediocre game.
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FAGGOT YOU'RE SO FUCKING ANNOYING
>>340735573
so you have footage of the other levels?
>>340735527
we can only hope at this point. just gotta wait till it comes out fampai
>>340733382
Kill yourself
>>340735686
>>340735752
calm down bucko, I'm sure someone will buy your game
>>340734446
It's the first level you autist
>>340735696
Oh right, that one level they showed off is the only platforming level in the game. Gotcha.
>>340735686
Ebin falseflag
>>340735793
>anyone interested in a game must be a shill
>>340734997
>scanlines
no they didn't
that was old footage from like 2013...it was meant as a throwback to the 16 bit days at one point in development but they got rid of it a long time ago
>>340735878
so you have footage of the other levels?
>>340735378
>the platforming
the platforming is not supposed to be the strong part/focus of the gameplay in run 'n gun game...shooting everything on screen while trying not to get hit is
>>340735573
>its just the first level of the game, it doesnt have to be good!
>>340735573
>social justice police.jpg
>>340736009
Well the other footage did look amazing
>>340735793
Fuck you
I'm tired as shit of noobs calling this game bad for no reason other than "Oh it has a great art style so it must be shallow shit"...tired of this fucking garbage here
>>340736072
but it is shallow shit, have you seen the gameplay? o.o
>>340736049
care to link the footage of the other levels? I'd like to see them so i can change my opinion
>>340736009
Looks pretty good to me for a first level but you're a shitter who's expecting a Megaman ripoff
>>340729649
>chromatic abomination
>>340736132
No it is not you fucking idiot
Plenty of people who have played it at PAX and E3 have praised the gameplay and it's depth
>>340736135
I didn't say I had such footage, I was referring to the reveal trailer
>>340731589
>an effect that is an inherent part of the style itself
>>340736135
I'm guessing he's referring to the Bosses
>>340735923
>so you have footage of the other levels?
>>340736171
Read the thread before you memepost
>>340736210
lol of course they did, they were personally there they had to praise it otherwise people would ostracize them for being rude
>others praised it so it must be good
>>340736303
I've read your piss-weak justifications in a dozen threads. The chromatic abomination remains abominable.
>>340732715
>it's similar to CRT filters which are just as retarded
Second.
>if you want to discuss an existing game, shitposters regurgitate the same shitposts about that game
>want to discuss an upcoming game, /v/ spams ignorant parroted posts about it based on minimal footage
>like a game or how a game looks, you're a fucking shill
Why has /v/ got so much fucking worse the past couple years?
I swear game discussion is literally impossible anymore thanks to shitpost memesters.
>>340736143
well excuse me for hoping for good level design
they could've at least put in a pit that was too wide to cross without jumping+air dashing so the player would get used to the concept
>>340736457
Thats because this is the Overwatch™ board and noone wants to see your shit here
>>340736240
That's backwards from like every big mod out there though
>>340736378
And it can be turned off, see >>340734405
>>340729737
This
>>340732715
CRT filters don't degrade the image, it makes the game look as it would have looked
8-bit and 16-bit games weren't made for the pixels to be seen in all their massive, ugly glory
They were little fuzzy rows of phosphor on a tiny 14 inch screen
>>340736339
They praised it in the internet you idiot not at the event
Fans of early 90s Treasure Games in particular praised it...there was also some anon here who was at PAX and thought it was very good
>Every Cuphead thread
>CHROMATIC ABERRATION?! NO! MY EYES! GARRRGHGPIHD FSPGISHDGPNDPSG
>WHY?! WHY?! WHY?! WHY!?
>THE PAIN! THE SWIRLING TORRENT OF ABYSMAL ENDLESS PAIN! I CAN'T BREATHE!
>-100/10
>DIDN'T EVEN PRE-ORDER!
>WON'T EVEN PIRATE!
>I DON"T CARE IF THERE IS AN OPTION OR A MOD TO TURN IT OFF! THE DEVELOPER SHOULD HAVE CATERED TO MEEEEEE!!!!
>>340736474
That is good level design you shitter
You don't need much more than linear path and shooting the shit out of everything in a Run 'n Gun game
>they could've at least put in a pit wide enough
They did one better
They put a coin in a platform where 2 chompers come straight at you
>>340729649
>>340731465
goddamn this looks so bad. won't even pirate this shit
>>340731748
Because that's how cartoons were made. Pen & ink for the animated parts, watercolour or oils for the backgrounds.
>>340736714
>CRT filters don't degrade the image
Yes they do
>it makes the game look as it would have looked
No it doesn't
It tries to simulate the experience of playing in a shitty ass low-end consumer CRT and fails at it
>Retro games were meant to be blurry
Fuck no
Why do you think /vr/ goes nuts for BVM's/PVM/s?
>>340736872
>>340737001
Like pottery
>>340736954
yeah i really felt like i needed to use both of movement skills to get out of that one!
>>340737034
See
>>340735583
The characters are colored digitally(only part which is done digitally in the whole game)
>>340737071
>low-end consumer CRT
So basically what 99.99% of people used and remember
>>340737178
It's at least something you gotta watch out for
>>340731772
>Aoki Masaru.gif
>>340737278
what, a fuckload of enemies coming out of nowhere? there was already a bunch of that three screens ago. i think forcing the player to jump+dash is a much more important concept to teach them
>>340737240
It's not what the devs wanted them to look like it's just an inherent problem with low quality displays
When some old dev was asked for what kind of CRT they developed(or in what the games looked best in) he replied by saying that " Sony Trinitrons are good" and Trinitrons were always great quality tv sets
Anyhow the CRT Filters massively fail at capturing the look of a low quality CRT too and makes things way too blurry
Trying to emulate that effect is autism
Why are so many on /v/ lately desperate to find literally any excuse to shitpost about games?
Hyped AF famsmh
>>340737520
Looking out for the chompers you 'tard
>I think forcing the player to jump+dash is much more important
Not every game needs to be Megaman X Arin
What is there to teach? You press a button and you dash,you jump and press the dash button and you do an air dash
There's even instructions in the hub area or whatever it is ffs
>people are arguing over the design of a tutorial level
>>340737710
>Not every game needs to be Megaman X Arin
You know games were doing this before megaman x right?
You know the very run n guns that cuphead is trying to emulate do this right?
>>340729649
Jesus, they better fix literally everything about the platforming levels. With what they've shown, it's only going to ruin any possible enjoyment of the game.
>>340737523
You develop games for how the audience are going to see it. I don't give a fuck if the devs used trinitron monitors, the vast majority of gamers are still going to be playing on a little 14" TV through a composite cable or RF modulator.
Graphics techniques such as dithering specifically exploited the averaging effect composite signals on CRT displays.
Seeing all those big sharp pixels in the cold light of day is not what the artists intended.
>>340737892
I don't remember Gunstar Heroes doing this kind of thing
Spending a couple of minutes to get the hang of the game is not a big deal
And besides we've only seen the first level the second level might do what you're saying
I don't think the Dash/Air Dash is going to be extremely integrated into the side-scrolling levels like the Mega Man X games tho since this is a different kind of game
>>340738301
>I don't remember Gunstar Heroes doing this kind of thing
You carry a fair point but something tells me there's a boss fight after the first level and I have no doubt in my mind that air dashing is a VITAL technique for boss fights
>>340738282
>You develop games for how the audience are going to see it.
No they fucking didn't you idiot
They developed the game and hoped for the best and at times they threw a bone to gamers by putting some effects here and there that could only be done through composite(Genesis comes to mind)
There's a reason RGB output was a thing as early as the Sega Master System/Mark III
Now you might have a point with the NES which had a PPU which only output Composite/RF and the color palette was tied to the NTSC encoding scheme but ever since the Master System that was not a thing anymore
240p RGB on a High Quality CRT doesn't look like upscaled integer scaled bullshit on an emulator you idiot
It looks exactly like composite/rf on a CRT but with accurate colors/no color bleeding and a bit clearer and sharper(depending on how sharp the particular model is)
>>340738282
They also used dithering on old computer games, which were often viewed on sharp as fuck monitors.
The fact is that even back then people would have wanted as sharp a display as possible to play on, not a blurry one. It looked better then and it looks better now.
>>340738585
I'm thinking any of the bosses can be done without the air dash and that the air dash move is just an ability which adds more options to your disposal to experiment with(i.e kills bosses faster/speedrunning that kind of stuff)
>>340738828
>The fact is that even back then people would have wanted as sharp a display as possible to play on
This
It only makes sense
Composite,RF,RGB etc. are just outputs
Yeah you lose some of the effects playing Sega Genesis on RGB but you also get a sharper/more vibrant picture with no color bleed so it's a trade-off
The games weren't particularly designed for a specific output that's just retarded
>>340738749
>240p RGB on a High Quality CRT doesn't look like upscaled integer scaled bullshit on an emulator you idiot
>It looks exactly like composite/rf on a CRT but with accurate colors/no color bleeding and a bit clearer and sharper(depending on how sharp the particular model is)
Never said it did, my friend. You are in fact arguing the exact same point I am trying to make.
Even on a good quality CRT, the pixels still have some bleed, and there are fucking scanlines, which is 90% of why people use CRT filters in emulators.
You need to understand a little about sampling theory and why sometimes what you can't see is more important than what you can. It's the same principle behind why some TVs insert black intermediate frames, and why cinema projectors only illuminate each frame for much less than 1/24th of a second
>>340738896
id swear that there's no getting over that weasel boss without air dashing but i cant find any footage to prove it
so i admit defeat good sir
