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Are there any MMO's worth playing?

Are there any MMO's worth looking forward to?
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>>340687690
>Are there any MMO's worth playing?
No
>Are there any MMO's worth looking forward to?
No

Tree of Savior was the last hope, and even that turned out to be garbage.
MMOs are dead.
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>>340687817
Revelation looks ok
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>>340687690
No, its either dying or prone to fail Sub based games, pay2win cash shop games, or korean grind fest (generally coupled with a cash shop)
Tons of hype then a total crash, I'm looking at you Blade and Soul.
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Warframe if you consider that an MMO
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Blade & Soul's single player mode is worth playing, and while you're doing that you'll most likely do some MP content as well.
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Current MMOs are all trash except for the really old ones like Ultima

good upcoming MMOs include Albion Online (complete sandbox) and Camelot Unchained (Realm vs Realm vs Realm large scale PvP)
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>>340687690
I had fun with FFXIV for about 4-5 months, and this is someone who is very against paying a monthly.

Blade and Soul is really fun combat, shame about the rest of everything else.

TERA has good T&A, and decent combat. Pretty world, too, but certainly is "Go kill X of Y creature."

Black Desert is clearly a korean grinder, but it really is a gorgeous game with decent atmosphere.
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>>340688672
>>340688487

>recommending themeparks

kill yourselves
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steam just got this tactics light ufo online cyka blyat game that is a bit grindy but heavy on the player economy
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>>340688741
Theme park MMOs are the only fun to be had nowadays.

At least you can spend some time looking around a pretty world and learning the combat systems.

GW2 is great for a few months, in this respect.

What would you recommend, anon?
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>>340688741
>themeparks
Please take your train and return to reddit as soon as possible.
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ESO is fantastic compared to any other MMO on the market right now.
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>>340687690
is there a western version of kufii already ffs?
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>>340689112
>ESO is fantastic

laughingelfman.jpg
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>>340689112
Isn't really saying much desu.
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>>340687690

Nope. Genre is dead.

Even the mmo hoppers are starting to abandon ship entirely.
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>>340687690
>>340687817
>>340687986

Legion looks incredible
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I kind of want to play Civilization Online.
Looks like fun.
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>>340687690
Faggot.
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>>340689237
>>340689304

I'm not joking. It's actually a really good game.

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-mmos/5/
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>>340687690
Most MMOs are worth playing if you simply have friends. I'm not talking about normie friends who play a few hours weekly and you end up outlevelling them too much, I mean no lifers just like you who don't mind playing at least 6 hours each day.

The second thing is(what I did in Tera and BnS) is simply getting to the max as soon as possible and joining the most active 4chin guild(for Tera it was the /a/ guild, in BnS it was a multiboard guild). After that all you need to do is slowly join the circlejerk(every guild has them, you'll notice them straight away) and then I ended up playing 10 hours a day with them grinding dungeons while talking about all kind of random shit on mumble. It was pretty fun.
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>>340689112
The game is great but it would be so much better if they just implemented the bloody spellcrafting system we'll never ever see. A proper duelling system and arena-style battlegrounds wouldn't be bad either. The Kvatch Arena is perfect in size.
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>>340689112
E3 can't come fast enough. Last year they presented Imperial City way before E3 but now we've heard fuck all from em.
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>>340689616
>tfw didn't even make it to max in TERA because it got so fucking boring without a friend

hate having normie friends
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>>340687690
The only decent online RPGs are the instanced ones. "Vast and living open world" is just an overpriced decoration nowadays, even on big and popular MMOs most of the actual action happens on instances with a group of players that got automatically together by using a party queue system.

Right now I'm playing Dungeon Fighter Online. It is an old game but still pretty fun.
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>>340690267
Tera was not so terrible. The game gives you double xp perks for free for like 3 days. Used some levelling guide and got to max in like 25~ hours.

BnS on the other hand, holy shit. Levelling took fucking forever, same 3 fucking quests over and over again. Could not even grind any mobs for quick xp, you basically had to do the quests.
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>>340690489
Fatigue ruins this game for me every time I try to play it. Either I don't get to play as much as I want to, or I start feeling obligated to log in and use all my fatigue everyday and the game feels like a second job and so I lose interest.
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>>340688929
>play GW2 to early 20s
>completely lose interest in the same thing over and over and over and ogre
I regret wasting my $20.
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all mmos a shit

i don't even know what i want from them anymore. at least wow felt novel at the time -_-?
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Camelot Unchained, Chronicles of Elyria, Pantheon Rise of the Fallen, saga of lucimi and Star Citizen are the MMOs I'm keeping my eye on atm. Too bad they're all coming out next year if even then.
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>>340690171
I hate that fucking frog so much.
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>>340689389
>0.05 blizzbucks have been deposited into your account
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>>340690962
Camelot Unchained is like Spring 2018 at the earliest, they just started modeling shit and creating the terrain
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>>340687690
>Black Desert
Just
>Tree of Savior
fuck
>Blade and Soul
my
>ArcheAge
shit
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I played XIV because I liked the story.
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>>340691305
I actually enjoyed BnS but I had to stop due to some real life stuff.

I come back not 3 months after release and I hear it's a barren wasteland filled with only bots.
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>>340691461
lol
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>>340690783
I stopped caring about my FP after I maxed my f.slayer on one of the old leveling race events.
It is far more fun to take it easy and forget about that thing. I don't even remember the last time I fully burned my FP on my main character, even when I spend the whole night playing with it.
Endgame is focused on dungeons with very few rooms but with fairly long battles (so, more time per FP), so FP is irrelevant most of the time.
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>>340687690
>what is Old School Runescape
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>>340691461
>get FFXIV recommended to me
>it's practically a singleplayer game

Fuck all MMOs with a main story quest that treats you like some special chosen savior.
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>>340687690
Pantheon if you want Everquest.
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how is Wildstar now that its on steam?
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BDO is the best sandbox in the longest. it just came out, has top of line graphics, great gameplay, and is b2p with no monthly fees. its getting constant stream of content updates and new content
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>>340691993
>BDO
>sandbox

lol

Also riddled with hackers
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>Start playing private servers in 2008 waiting for something good to come along
>Still playing private servers in 2016

All they had to do was make RO HD or FFXI HD

Kill me please
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I'm having fun in Black Desert.
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>>340691742
What is that armor?
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>>340687690
Guess i'm looking forward to your pic realted, kingdom under fire 2

Most MMO's have issues so technically it's no.
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>>340688629
How good is albion online?
True sandbox and player housing give me boners, and it seems that this game has both.
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>>340691461
Everything in XIV is decent to great (the soundtrack is the best thing about it, it manages to make even the more dull encounters enjoyable), except the community and the gameplay.
The mediocre combat would be more enjoyable if the itemization wasn't so fucking shitty, it might as well not even exist. Plus the guaranteed welfare updates and being indirectly forced by the community to read/watch guides really kills it to me.
You have to be either a hardcore raider always ready for the next challenge before people start to publish guides, a casual ERPing while waiting for the next welfare patch, or someone that plays the game once every six months to enjoy the story. Any attempt of "midcore playing" XIV is sadly pointless.
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>>340692874
>kingdom under fire 2
I forgot that this shit existed.

>heard about it back when I played KuF: H
>that was like 9 years ago

wew
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FOnline

Just kidding.
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>>340693341
dammit anon, I really didn't need those feels. For op, should look at world adrift, it's an upcoming physics based open world sandbox mmo where you design, craft, and fly airships.
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>>340692131
>RO HD
There is a RO remake being developed for tablets.
It is supposed to keep most of the old gameplay elements, like class system, hat collecting and old stats like crazy attack speed, plus new stuff like hand-holding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17aw6R84dCw

FFXI got a spin-off on android and will get a port/remake/something in the future too.
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Has anyone tried:
Gloria Victis? Been in beta for awhile, is just now on steam.
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>>340688629
I'd add to that list:
Crowfall
The two Darkfall reboots/revamps (one is straight old Darkfall, the other is adding "more sand to the box" inspired by UO stuff)
Life is Feudal
Chronicles of Elyria (just had kickstarter so long ways away)
Shards Online
Das Tal

There are more, that's off the top of my head. All of them could turn out to be godawful, just saying they fit mostly into the "sandbox" type mold.
>>340692991
I'm not a backer but had kept up with Albion news for a bit - one thing i didn't like was pvp looked a lot like zerg vs zerg. However, like you said, the sandbox stuff looks neat so far and I enjoy their artstyle. If it's half as fun as what they promise i'd buy it at launch, assuming I can find a guild so I'm not edgy loner that quits in a month.
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>>340691993
BDO is garbage, if you get into it now you will never catch up to the End-Game PvPers unless you poopsock. The combat is PvE combo spam or PvP combo spam, the latter being locked behind having better gear than your opponent. The end game is non-existent bar mindless grind, and they removed all penalties for PvPing, so there's no reason to even bother doing it anymore.

Only people left are desperately hoping things get better, levelling alts because there's no content left, poopsockers who are still grinding all day like they have been doing since release, or casual scum.
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>>340692131
>west will never get DQX

>>340687690
i'm actually really enjoying ToS for some reason
maybe it's just because it's the first game in a long time that's let me progress by mindlessly grinding shit
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>>340691742
Hell Yeah Baby, easily the best MMO
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>>340694061
BDO IS garbage, and even with poopsocking you won't catch up to the end-game pvpers. it would require both poopsocking and paying real money and even then you'll be behind.
To be fair, BDO's pay2win isn't as absurd as ArcheAge but it's still there. Being less shitty doesn't make something not-shitty.
Also should note, BDO is not remotely a "sandbox" game but I don't want to be a jargon faggot.
The character creator is pretty neat, however. And the game is really pretty (assuming someone can stomach korean garbage). Still wildly un-fun at max level without shelling out quite a bit of money combined with being a neet.

I have a friend who plays very casually and roleplays nonstop. He's a nice dude but is also a massive literal faggot. So there is one endorsement for BDO - casual homosexuals enjoy it.
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>>340691710
>elf
>drills
>blunt bangs
>brown
>necromaner
Yes.
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>>340687690
i like neverwinter
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>>340694772
the only reason people consider it sandbox is because some of the lifeskills aren't completely retarded compared to most mmos, and the whole mostly open world thing besides red battlefield
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>>340687690

FF14, but only for reasons unrelated to it being an MMO.
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The only MMO's I enjoy playing are Trickster Online for its simplicity, and Minecraft for the pvp (pre 1.9).
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>>340692131
>>340693575
One of my biggest regrets is missing out on playing RO in its heyday.

It looks super fun but it seems like the newest actual version is garbage and dead and all the private servers and shit are equally dead.

I was really hoping that ToS would live up to the hype cause it definitely seemed like the same sort of game, but then it came out and it's just a buggy and laggy mess.

;_;
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If you like an amazingly interesting story with great missions/attention to detail and are willing to put up with an OK combat system, The Secret World is great.

Basic premise, modern world except every conspiracy is true. Less cringy than you'd expect from the shorthand version. One of the few horror-themed MMO's. Most of it winds up being hack n' slash but there are actually pretty spooky moments if you look for them, and the investigation missions (puzzle quests) have some of the most ridiculous solutions. You'll be translating ancient hebrew, morse code, killing yourself to talk to dead parrots and all kinds of other shit.

Servers are sorta low population these days but the game puts you in low population instances anyways to maintain the horror atmosphere. Don't have any of my cool screenshots since I wiped my PC but have this.
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>>340695515
>Minecraft
>MMO

>Minecraft
>pvp

Pick none.
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>>340687690

I'm playing RIFT right now. It has the basic WoW formula, but alot of extra features and it's free.
There is a patron mode that is essentially p2w as it gives extra money and exp. But the economy is so fucked anyways, everyone already has a 65 and money is everywhere.

It's got some fantastic scenery too.
Great animations for NPC's.

All the PVP is high tier only. No lv50. No lv20. You're either 65 or not.

Since the community is smaller, they tend to be more helpful as well.
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>>340695234

You're a fag that perpetuates the idea that FR is the best setting ever

Love,

a DDO shitter
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>>340689616
TERA healing was fun. It forced you to stay near your teammates, and your teammates to stay near you. Plus everyone worked efficiently as a group.
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>>340687690

>worth playing
arguably yes. WoW, FFXIV, GW2, EVE are all decent. if you don't like MMOs you won't like them but they're complete packages with sustainable user numbers

>worth looking forward to
Pretty much no. So many MMOs came out so quickly trying to emulate WoW and so many were complete failures, I think companies lost their appetite for MMOs. The only ones in production are shitty kickstarter ones.
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>>340695684
When you're on a map where you can build, you find amazing group dynamics and on-the-fly cooperation. It's actually kinda amazing when twelve people can independently do their own thing, yet simultaneously work as a single unit to complete a task.

Minecraft is fun. So sorry it doesn't have elves with huge knockers jiggling about.
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>>340695878
I know it's basically beating a dead horse but I really wish EVE was more interesting moment to moment and didn't require so much time investment to be worthwhile.

It seems super cool especially with all the factions and player interactions, but every time I've spun up a trial account I get bored so quickly. Maybe if I had a second monitor to toss up a show or something on it in between bits where I actually need to be doing something in-game it'd be better.
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>>340695878
Are the EVE novels worth reading? I'm looking for a good sci-fi fantasy novel about space pirates/mercenaries flying about and doing shit in deep space.
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>>340696020
I don't think you understand what MMO means. Enjoy the amazing Minecraft pvp, I guess.
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>>340695726
what?
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>>340696174
"Multi Massive Online"
Explain to me how that doesn't apply to multiplayer Minecraft as I described it?

Also, I can't enjoy it anymore. My wife won't let me play.
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>>340695878
What this guy said
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>>340696286
>married
>cuck
Back to Facebook.
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>>340696134

EVE is probably the most impressive MMO on the market, sandboxes have always been my favorite. I don't play it actively anymore, your complaints are accurate. It's not a game about dogfighting or moment-to-moment action, it's a huge scale sandbox where you can play the game so many different ways. Unless you care about the economy or sovereignty though it's unlikely to keep you hooked, those are the big draws of sandboxes. I desperately want a decent fantasy sandbox, or even a ground-level scifi sandbox like SWG. Spaceships alone don't do it for me personally, but if you like spaceships EVE is the GOAT.

EVE doesn't require a huge time investment though, join a corp, get in voice chat, they can get you going and you can probably be doing something useful within a few days.

>>340696171
Haven't read any, sorry friend. I'm not much of an EVE lore buff.
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>>340695684
I'd agree that minecraft isn't technically an mmo, but 1.9 pvp is really fun.
>build secret base with traps
>raid people, make rude signs
>wait for them to find you to take revenge
>watch them die to traps as you feel clever
>literally a room labeled "diamond storage" full of traps and they fall for it everytime
of course it normally goes like:
>raid someone
>they use hacks and find your secret base asap, murder you repeatedly
but it's still fun when it plays like it should.
A trick i always use is to have a room decorated like a bedroom with my bed, but my "real" bed is hidden so when cunts break in and raid my shit, murder me and destroy the bed (thinking I'll pop back at spawn), i respawn in my secret "ready room" with weapons/armor and can race back and avenge myself.
It's super fucking dorky but secret base hiding/finding is fun for me. Too bad I'm shit at all other aspects of the game.
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>>340696264

I'm upset that everyone fucking creams their pants over forgotten realms and perfectly fine settings like Eberron, which DDO was primarily set in, are pushed to the side to make room for that content.
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>>340687690
why why why does KuF2 need to be a korean MMO. what a terrible waste of a great IP.
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>>340696134
I've been playing Eve for about a week and a half and this is my main complaint. I haven't been able to do much of anything except mine incompetently because I've been waiting for my skills to train. And since skills raise over time according to how you queue them, I haven't been able to make my mining or industry more efficient because that would mean it would add days to my queue when I'm trying to train into PvP.

At least I joined a good corp that has a lot of programs in place to help new players out. When I need something like a skill book I just put a contract out and they send me what they need. Their fleets are newbie friendly but I still don't want to join if all I'll be able to fly is a condor or atron, and poorly at that.
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>>340695673

i played it for like an hour and i couldn't figure out how to get a 1st person view, though i've read through google that you can.

would like to get into it.
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>>340688629
>>340694041
>good upcoming MMO
>turns out to be shit

everytime /v/

For fucks sake, don't you remember what happened last time they "upgraded" Darkfall?
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Has anyone played any of the swgemu servers? Either the main one or the various offshoots? I played awhile back on the main one and development is good but very very slow - recently went looking on the swgemu subreddit but it's a lot of drama involving various shards and it wasn't clear (from an outside perspective, anyhow) which servers weren't complete shit.
The main one, "basilisk", has plenty of people playing but also a super-fucked economy due to the ability to have so many characters on an account - so everyone that's a vet is self-sustaining. Great for testing purposes but kind of shit for actual gameplay.
I... just want to be an imperialbro and bounty hunt jedis again. And mostly die but I'm ok with that.
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>>340694772
Nah, you can catch up, since even the poopsockers have fallen off with their grind nowdays, but you will never EVER be in the top 1%, you can make the top 5% though.
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>>340696974
>For fucks sake, don't you remember what happened last time they "upgraded" Darkfall?
I do!
HOWEVER, "this time" aventurine has nothing to do with it. They licensed DF out to two different independent dev teams, mainly fans and some financial backers. Like I was saying, one is straight up redo of DF 1.0, the other is Darkfall with added shit.
You're 100% correct that either or both may turn out to be shit but since it's not like they're asking for money yet it's ok to at least be cautiously hopeful. Darkfall on paper is fucking great, i'd argue that it was mismanagement and incompetence that ruined it.
Then again I'm used to being disappointed so I'm immune at this point.
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I'd pay for a non grindfest Silkroad.

Or maybe a relaunch of Dekaron/2moons.
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>>340695593
Nothing will ever replicate what made these old games so great: the playerbase. Ragnarok was popular not just because it was a good game with great soundtrack, but because of every single player playing it.

RO had lots of features that are considered bad or simply pointless nowadays (no party finder, risk of loot/kill stealing, absolutely no direction of what to do, no quest book so you had to make notes by yourself, bosses with long respawn cooldown, the MVP reward system, etc), but they worked because the community supported them, and the devs released even more features focused on that growing community.

Modern MMOs are designed for a completely different audience, that is why we now have things like party finder, instanced content overshadowing open world content (if available at all, fully instanced games are quite popular nowadays), hand-holding tutorials, too much info on screen, single-player-oriented leveling, etc. The new audience want them, even demand them when they play older games that are still alive.

Before, everything was new and there are no set rules other than "lots of grinding ahead", so features are created and people adapted themselves to work with them. Now people expect specific features and the dev team deliver them on release (creating the "wow clone" effect).
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>>340687817
>Ever placing hope in a Korean shitgame
LOL

>>340687690
Chronicles of Elyria is about it, could be the new Ultima I've always wanted if they don't backpedal. They always backpedal ;_;
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I'm referencing this video for now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY9ItiE9NSc
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>>340697516
Eve is similar in regards to the type of players it attracts. I think a good chunk of people (not a lot, but a decent amount) are getting tired of the single player MMO trash that theme parks bring, Eve is hitting the highest point in its population right now.
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Whats the best MMO to ERP and be a Slut in?
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>>340697787

Honestly? Probably WoW.
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D-Does anyone play Aura Kingdom? I just downloaded it.
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>>340697787
FF XIV if you like cat girls and lolis, WoW if you like futa space goats
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>>340697787
FFXIV.
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>>340697361
aren't they still doing the same skill system as before with no hard caps in place? Sounds like there just repeating all the same old mistakes
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>>340691993
>Calling BDO a sandbox

TOP FUCKING KEK, clowns like you who spout that BDO is a sandbox make me laugh because you make it so obvious you don't know what a sandbox is.
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>>340697963
I remember that /vg/ had a thread about it but Aeria Games apparently fucked it beyond repair (well, it IS Aeria Games so it's probably true). Most decided to quit, others decided to play on private servers.
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>>340698251
I used to think BDO was a sandbox until I played Eve
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osrs is fun
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>>340694772
How is it p2w? The only thing I ever saw in the cash shop that seemed like it'd influence pvp was the res stones
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>>340698061
Two different "redos/reboots/whatever".
One is called, um, Rise of Agon. The other is "New Dawn.".
One of them is in fact doing the same shit with the skilll system like you said. The other is placing caps, similar to old UO. And of course right now i forget which is which since i'm stupid, so that's not helpful. But they are a ways off anyhow.
One is going for straight up redo of darkfall, the other is adding a bunch of shit, big ones being localized banking, better housing and guild territory controls, caps on skills, blah blah.
But again i should stress it all could change since they only got the licenses a few months ago.
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>>340688629
>Albion Online (complete sandbox)
And pay2win.
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>>340698510
Does it function like regular Runescape does (or did, maybe it changed since the last time I played it) where you have to be a member to access half the content?
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>>340698429
There is a huge difference you see now?
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Legion's looking pretty good desu
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>>340699075
you dumbass Blizzdrones said the same thing about Warlords

Bli$$ard could shit on a plate and sell it for $60, and you would buy it
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>>340689112

The game takes 85gb to install and manages to look and play worse than vanilla Skyrim.
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>>340699268
If you haven't been following the expansion's development then you have no place to talk.
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>>340697034
>he missed those days when SWGEmu was fotm and /v/ played it and made a city
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>>340699416
stay delusional
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>>340698690
membership is 10 a month. you can buy a bond which is 2.4mil in game gp for 14 days of membership
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>>340699443

Wasn't becoming a jedi like a nigh impossible thing to do in this game?
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>>340699075
It is and it isn't. The "hype" for legion is far lower than it was for WoD and so many of us got burnt.
I'm hopeful for a lot of the changes but a lot of it (especially pvp stuff) sounds godawful so far.
Still too early to tell, I could only stomach a month of WoD so I'm clearly not the target WoW audience anymore.
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>>340699794

Yes. And people who DID become Jedi were overpowered as a motherfucker.
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>>340699845

What does that even entail? Did you have to make a lightsaber through a crafting skill? Or were they like quest items?
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>tfw thought of reinstalling tera and forgot it's 39 fucking gb's
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>>340699794
It was very difficult yes.
And what's better, there is a bounty hunter class who's job is to hunt jedis. So imagine the scenario:

>nigger kid wants to be a jedi
>works like a motherfucker to become one
>goes to the cantina and pulls out his lightning saber to show off
>half the players send messages to each other telling their friends and guildmates that there is a jedi in the cantina
>2 minutes later an army of bounty hunters shows up to kick his ass

it was damn fun, let me tell you.
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>>340699443
I didn't miss those days, actually. Just haven't played since then. BEST KORELLIA.
The clusterfuck meeting at the cantina with everyone was one of the funnest times I've had in a game, period. Complete chaos but neat to be in a virtual star wars world with all of you turbofags.
>>340699794
Depends on when you mean, but in original pre-cu/nge SWG it was a big grind but not impossible. Jedis aren't enabled yet on the main swgemu server, last i saw, but are on a bunch of the offshoots (I don't know more than that).
I do remember, from retail SWG, that jedi were very powerful at least at first. Back when no one knew how they were unlocked, but i was taking hard classes at the time so my memories could be hazy/incorrect.
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>>340699927

http://swg.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_(pre-NGE)#Becoming_a_Jedi
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>>340699927
You had to craft everything in your lightsaber yourself, also if you were a jedi then you were tagged for having permadeath. If you died, that was it. Your character became a force ghost and could no longer log in. Thing is, a jedi could take on dozens of other players and come out alive.
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>>340699927
It was actually random, you just had to train skills and if you are lucky, after a certain point you'd get a quest that let you begin your Jedi quest. Thing about jedi though, although they are OP as FUCK, when you killed one, you had the satisfaction of knowing you just permakilled someone character with hundreds to thousands of hours on it. As well as the rest of the server knowing and whispering you death threats. Good times....
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>>340700041
I forget where i saw them, but there was a collection of fun bounty hunter vs jedi stories somewhere. My favorite was a big RP wedding that some players had where an elusive jedi got invited - i forget how but it got triggered on the consoles so a ton of bounty hunters stormed the event to get him, creating a shitload of death, chaos, and forum drama.
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>>340699939
games just keep getting bigger but download speeds not so much
this is a hell of its own
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>>340696789
>Their fleets are newbie friendly but I still don't want to join if all I'll be able to fly is a condor or atron, and poorly at that.

I would highly discourage this thinking. Go out with them, explode, try to learn what you could have done better, and do it again. Be a cute newbie when appropriate (don't interrupt battle comms with "OMG I'M DYING! FC WUT DO") and people will even shower you with isk.
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mainstream mmos are bad because they have to be cash cows to compete with other cash cows

there are good mmos that aren't huge though
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>>340699443
>tfw i'm in that screenshot, didn't even notice at first
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>>340687817
Agreed, ToS was my only hope and boy, did they fuck up.

Now all I can do is casually play the same meh MMOs I've been playing for 5 years now.
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Guys, help. I'm only level 33 and I wandered off...

I found some kind of portal.
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>>340700465
To add onto this, I guarantee you that the fleet is filled with newbro frigs who have no idea what they are doing. A lot of those people aren't going to learn anything because they won't try to learn anything. So you not being there getting practical battle experience and learning more about the game/how to be a better pilot, actually hurts your alliance more than it helps.
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>>340700465
I'll join their standing fleet one of these days then. They're a very active corp and they're always sending out alerts for PvP operations, so it shouldn't be hard at all to get some action in this weekend
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>>340700613
>trusting gook shit nowadays

The Silkroad and Ragnarok days are over, friend. Those yellow bastards are only looking to suck your wallet dry now, they don't give enough of a fuck to and don't even know how to make a decent game.
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>>340700713

I snuck around the guard to get closer.

This is getting way too spooky.
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>>340700807
Silk Road was never good ever.

Great aesthetic though
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>>340695673
>The Secret World
What's the /v/ channel? I haven't played in over two years so all of my settings got wiped.
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>>340700816

Please send help!

I keep...walking...closer...
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>>340687690
All the MMOs I'm interested in are all Korean/Asian only that will probably never get localised, even if they were already planning on getting localised.

Closers Online for example. It was supposed to come out some time last year but it looks like zero progress has been made localising it from last April or something.

I'm also interested in Peria Chronicles too. I don't even think that's out in Korea, despite the fact it was supposed to come out last year too...
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Do subscription fees make for a better MMO community?
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>>340695234

I couldn't get into NWN after getting to like... Oh just over halfway to cap. It was just the same damn thing all day every day, frustrating.
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>>340700750
Good shit. Another idea would be to make notes while on fleet. Note things you don't understand, and ask about them afterwards.

I used to FC and have a bunch of new players in my fleets and the lack of comms discipline to to random noob questions was suuuuper frustrating. So try to just go along with the flow, note something you don't understand, and then ask when it's appropriate, not in the middle of the fleet.
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>>340700895
I and many others enjoyed it at the time, before they expanded it with European content and tried to cashcow it. Another similar one that I preferred over Silkroad was Kal Online.
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>>340700959
I really did like the community of FFXIV more than any other F2P/P2W MMO I've ever played; but that's because they aren't filled with the community that >>340700807 mentioned caters to.
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>>340688629
>Camelot Unchained
this seems interesting, seems like the closest to WAR ill get
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tera is the only good mmo
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>>340688741

Like wow buddy?
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>>340700916


It's so pretty.
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>>340700529
which one are you?
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>>340700895
it was fun the first month euro was out.
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>>340688672
>They're pretty shit, but at least they're PRETTY shit.

I tried all of them except Black Desert and I literally couldn't even bother playing them for a week. I do feel like they might be enjoyable MMOs but somehow they just aren't for me.

Maybe I just grew out of MMOs or something? Lord knows I don't have the time to grind and farm for hours at a time like in highschool.
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>>340701119

Guess I'll just dance infront of it.
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>>340701202
to play asian mmos you need some kind of a goal.
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>>340701101
did they fix getting interrupted all the time because
you stagger if the mob farts on your general direction?
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>>340701042
Yeah, they have a pretty indepth wiki with a section describing their comms for new playerss, I was reading over it earlier today.
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Atlantica has a unique battle system and is still getting updates

EVE is EVE, but the new expansions are good.

Crowfall is looking good

I'm still fucking mad about what they did to firefall
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>>340700475
Good mmos such as?
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>>340695878
What does GW2 offer? It's a lot to download.
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>>340701408
>Crowfall is looking good

I started out optimistic for Crowfall untill they started all their founder shit. Looks like it's gunna go the way of ArcheAge fast
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>>340687690
GW2 and PSO2 are the two mmos i keep coming back to. not counting the month or two i resub to wow when a new expansion drop
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>>340701280
yeah don't get hit
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Decided to try leveling in GW2 because I bought it at release but didn't really play it.
I am enjoying it, the game naturally has you work with other players but it lacks communication with them. The personal story is neat because, at least at the earlier parts I am at I don't feel like some Chosen Mary Sue. I am just kind of a character in the world. That probably changes later though.
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>>340697963
Personally, it's one of my favourite MMOs. It's not even remotely great by any stretch of the imagination but it's very comfy.

Like... I dunno, it feels like I could easily idle away my time playing that game if I wanted to.
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>>340701710
sassy remarks will get you nowhere buddy
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>>340701710
>don't get hit
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>>340701748
30 is when you are the chosen one everything is the same .
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The majority of /v/ are such autist I don't understand how there isn't a larger player base of EVE here.

Can a game being TOO autistic for you guys?
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>>340690489
I played this game for a while until I realized end game is boiled about how lucky you are in hell mode.
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>>340701448
I'm playing project gorgon which is alpha but playable, there's really a lot of them tho. You just gotta look harder. I got that one from a list some guy was posting in these threads for a while and I didn't save it.
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All current MMOs suck, however the only one worth it is FFXIV hands down
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>>340702032
Aw well, at least my character starts somewhat humbly I guess.
Is there no variety past that point? I like being a Charr engineer and warband leader.
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Lord of the Rings Online is really underrated. It's got an amazing world.

I really want to play something like that for the first time again but I can't think of what.
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>>340702276
Played it for a bit until I became a black mage.
Then the leveling really bored me. Might try again some day.
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>>340702287
pay2win
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>>340702173
is there pvp in project gorgon?
I haven't kept up with it but everything i've read in spurts sounds like a lot of fun. The dude making it (maybe it's him and his wife? i forget) seems like a cool guy.
I'm not a big ganker or anything, just feels so weird playing a mmo where there's no potential danger from players.
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>>340701879
>>340701997
you can use iframes you realize
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>>340702451
last I heard the only pvp was a mausoleum under the first town, kinda dumb too seeing as it was the first person to get a cc off won
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>>340702280
well it starts from whatever personal story you choose, then there are 3 orders to choose(so 3 different stories) then it all merges and same for everyone
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>>340702373
dps arent fun
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>>340702089
Eve requires talking to other people, something /v/ isn't good at.

>>340702173
Project Gorgon is fucking awful. Just Asheron's Call instead
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I kinda wish MMOs weren't so good looking. It's a weird thing to say but a lot of MMOs take up absolutely massive amounts of data now, easily 30GB or more.
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If you don't mind the simpleness of it and the great grinding battle, Domo has always been fun.

The community is almost 100% enjoyable, there have been fun events in the past like the Chinese New Year having a crazy huge and powerful boss right outside the town gates, or the big firework celebration shortly before it went down the first time.
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>>340702639
30GB is a lot?
Are we still in 2010?
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>>340702639
>massive amounts of data now, easily 30GB or more.
>in an age where you can get 2tb for 100 dollars
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>>340687690

no

no
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>Just want an MMO with a decent Summoner class

>So far, that's basically just PWI

Help
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>>340702890
>>340702918
Download speeds though. It still takes a while to download that, especially in this day and age where you probably live with someone who is watching Netflix at the same time.

Don't bother saying "get better internet" either. I'm on an ultra fast broadband fiber optic line, it literally can't get better.
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MMOs are dead. We ASSFAGGOTS now.
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>>340702438
Not really, it's just Pay to not grind, like every single F2P mmo out there.
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>>340703165
>tfw live out in a rural area with only a few providers, with over half of those available having data caps
>have to settle for shitty Centurylink with a service so bad any upload past 5 kb/s murders the connection like it's a slasher film

I fucking hate it. When nothing's happening it's fine, but the smallest little piece of shit from ANYTHING slaughters it.
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How's Rift now that it's free? Always wanted to try it.
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>>340703198
assfaggots are so 2014
hero shooters are the next new thing
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Maplestory
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>>340700091
Yooooo, I was in that group too my nigga. Remember Doraball? He's a trans now.
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>>340687690
Fuck I just resubbed to WOW and made a brand new orc, and right as soon as I pop in the world, I am bombarded with Chinese spam fuck WOW fuck spammers and FUCK mmos.
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>>340703482
I'm in a rural area and centurylink is my only option as well. It's the shittiest internet i've ever had, including shit-tier customer service (that part isn't shocking).
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Is it gonna be any good?

Literally no one talks about it
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>>340703990
No spammers in EVE outside of player scams and memers. And that's only in a few select places.
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>>340703870
haha i think the name rings a bell but good for him/her, I guess.
I just remember the mayor Gaben and a cool rodian smuggler who I'd buy lots of drugs from.
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Anyone have any recommendations for grinding MMOs or just grindy games in general?

I really just wanna play something where I can watch the numbers go up real nice.

Was thinking of maybe reinstalling D3 but I remembered I never bought RoS which supposedly makes the game worth playing beyond the base story, and last time I tried Path of Exile (probably a year or so ago at this point) I got real bored of the "so complex and deep!" character tree shit pretty fast, plus all the de-sync stuff.
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>>340704565
I saw a banner ad for it and I thought it was a phone game so I ignored it completely.
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MMOs were totally dead by 2013, killed by F2P.
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>>340702575
Not to mention at roughly level 60 your "personal story" gets taken over by some dumbass NPC and you just become his fucking secretary while he saves the world and everyone loves him.

Honestly I loved GW2 up until level 40-60 and then it became a fucking slog and the story sucks horribly. And from what I've read the post release story is even worse (and now you have to pay money to play the "Season 1" story missions)..
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>>340703485
If it's your first time then you will probably enjoy it. There is a sizable grindwall at level cap--primarily for reputations to get access to BiS items--so it's more about if you can handle tedium or not.

I played for a bit during vanilla, quit, came back, quit again, then played a little bit during Storm Legion. The dungeons are very fun and I like their version of Heroics with how they alter the actual dungeon itself. Raids were probably the most genuinely exciting I've ever been through.
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>>340703062
veno or mystic?
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>>340705081

Venomancer, obviously. They get SO many pets.
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>>340701217
Aw shit, this is RIFT, right?
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Phantasy Star Online 2. In the West.

Seriously, is that EVER going to be a thing? I think I recall someone from Sega confirmed it was still alive a year ago or something but it looks like zero progress has been made.
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>>340700908
I don't think there is any.Sanctuary is the most active channel.
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>>340687690
>Are there any MMO's worth playing?
WoW
>Are there any MMO's worth looking forward to?
WoW expansions, hop on the Legion hype train bud
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>>340696925
>couldn't get out of first person
i havent played in years since i dont own any issues/dont want to raid, but i didn't even know there was a first person view other than scrolling in or out
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>>340701807
I just downloaded it, how do I git gud? I'm playing a bowman.
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>>340705298
Nope. Even if it did, it's still a shit game.
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>>340701217
>Guess I'll just dance infront of it.
nigga you just go through it now, its not even hot shit anymore

>>340705186
yeah, but its massively gone downhill in the last few months
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>>340705570
>its massively gone downhill in the last few months
Doesn't surprise me at all.
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I'm having a blast playing Secret World.Did some of the missions at least 20 times and its still fun as hell.Its definition of themepark but they done it very well.
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Skyforge is pretty fun at the moment.

Waiting on >>340705690
and Revelations.
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>>340693603

I like the concept, but I feel like it has a long way to go. Hopefully now with income from steam early access they can get updates out at a faster rate.
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>>340690489
I stopped playing this back in October when uni picked up. I wonder if the population got any bigger.
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>>340705435
There is no first person.Only zooming and it will ruin the combat if you do.
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>>340705498
Oh jeez, it's been a while. Let's see...

If I recall, you can move while casting skills if you hold the button down? I think charging them also increases damage, for some skills at least?

You basically want to slightly kite everyone, dancing just on the very edge of your range.

Also, you skills have a variety of effects that can buff you or debuff enemies. You wanna use the right skills at the right time. Like, opening up with an ice arrow is a good idea so when a monster starts to chase you it starts with lowered movement speed. Then slam'em with the skill that lowers their defense and then pepper them with shots as they inch closer.

You can also have a sub class, if ya didn't know. You get MOST of the skills of the second class as well as access to their weapon. Some weapons have a natural synergy with other weapons, which lets you gain a few special skills.

For example, bows and harps work well together. Harps are bard weapons, which are the healer class. Since you're on the backlines as a bowman anyway, being a healer isn't a bad subclass to take as well. Apply buffs and healing to yourself and others while applying damage and debuffs to enemies, it's a good deal.

Check out your Envoy's Path thing carefully, see what skills you get from other weapons. I think the bowman's other weapon synergy is with the sword and shield? That might be good for solo play, increase your survivability a little bit.
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This is the only MMO worth looking forward to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8HXSJ0niCQ
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>>340687690
No.

The only MMO's being made are themepark bullshit that don't really have a living world you can do shit with, defeating the purpose.

I'm hoping soon people will look at shit like Rust, DayZ, and EVE and realize that what people want these days is a simulation, not a fantasy book you can be a nameless asshat in.
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>>340699416
>If you don't fall for the scam then you have no place to talk
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>>340687690
id suggest the secret world like another anon did, but the problem is, all of its AMAZING pros? would have been better suited to a single player game
and most of its cons? related to it being a mmo

in fact, i think they did make a spoopy short horror game set in universe in one of the questing locations
to my knowledge, it was pretty alright, but short as fuck
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>>340706586
multiplayer survival games are basically miniature sandbox mmos really
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>>340706368
I beg to differ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3p48RCWTw4
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>>340707070
Chinese MMOs can be pretty and all but...

Man, the gameplay is usually kinda terrible.
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>>340701101
tera is cancer
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>>340707140
I'm not seeing much of an issue there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zk-CtAkqiA
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>>340701101
I hear the gameplay is great for Tera but the quests get really dull really fast.
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>>340707070
>>340707320
Meh, Lost Ark's combat honestly appeals to me much more. This just looks like another Tera/BnS/Black Desert failure waiting to happen.
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>>340705690
never ever
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>>340706958
I just want a triple A company to make one that actually has seem decent scale to it without being kike shits and ruining it (ArcheAge).

I'd be willing to tolerate some restrictions, such as not being able to personally build your own houses and shit, as long as there were good mechanics.
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>>340688741

Sandboxes are pretty boring really. All "player created content" boils down to ganking outside of the nearest town.

Sandbox elements are good but not when there's NO structured content to do just random mobs to grind and people just end up PK'ing all day.
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I mean I've only played The Secret World and I enjoyed that, me and my best bud played it for 2 days straight since we barely get to play games together since he's in the navy.

Any other good ones?
I tried tera and it's alright

It seems that MMOS are only good when you have a friend or two to play through them with and have a good time and not some random sperg you meet online and just rushes and leaves you behind
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>>340690171
Vvanderfell has been datamined and people are expecting it to be announced this E3 at their booth.
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>>340708129
Can't wait to not be a wood elf. I'll feel like a giant badass among all those midgets.

Getting peppered with arrows constantly while I try to close the distance will make me feel like a fucking retard though.
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>>340690171

They have imperial city in game, as well as the thieves guild, dark brotherhood, and Orsinium. All new content this last year.
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>>340697672
What's the game at the very start?
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>>340707804
I disagree with your main point but agree that it does turn into a gankbox more often than not. There are various essays on possible methods to incorporate consequences to "law breaking" and ways to have incentives to not just being a bitch to everyone in those types of games -- as often there really is no benefit to working together if you feel you're stronger.
A lot of that involves making them more of a virtual world, complete with player-run territories and associated laws.
We're not at that point yet but i do firmly believe the future of online mmos is headed there eventually.
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>>340699362

It's an MMO, of course it's going to look worse than a single player game. Hitboxes are larger to account for network latency as well.

FFXIV looks worse than FFXIII or any of its sequels.
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>>340690171
pray tell me
what makes eso good, are people social in it?
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>>340708578
Soul Worker, or something like that.
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>>340708674
>are people social in it?

It's a theme park to the nth degree, what the fuck do you think?
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>>340706876
They added Tokyo and released new issues if you didn't know.
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>>340708929
is it actually another zone after Transylvania?
i missed alot of the story, specifically new york i think, because i never wanted to raid but if its an actual zone and not just an issue, i might come back a bit
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>Are there any MMO's worth playing?
Runescape
>Are there any MMO's worth looking forward to?
Runescape
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>>340708674
>>340708674
I haven't played it since launch so maybe it's changed, but I didn't talk to even one person while grinding to max. Didn't do many quests, either, just aoe'd shit on my templar.
I'm sure I did it wrong but the game certainly didn't force me to interact with anyone. I got talked into buying it to play with a buddy, and then we couldn't even do quests together due to phasing.
He's still way into it so maybe it doesn't suck but I quit after getting to max since I promised i'd do at least that.
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>>340709065
Yeah its another city.I found it very refreshing.Missions are fun as fuck.Desing of the city is kinda dull but missions and the story makes up for it.There is also a new system called AEGIS that brings another type of fun.
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>>340687690
Riders of Icarus had a good beta.
How much shit they fuck up with the cash shop will determine the game's fate. Wont be the next big thing but it wont be the next big cancer.... unless they go full jew which I am half expecting.

Its gonna be free so its nothing lost nothing gained if its shit.
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