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>Serious Sam 4 being revealed at e3
what are your hopes/expectations?
a great game and thats what i will get
Seriousness
a slightly more exciting opening level/levels than brown bloom afghanistan corridor museum shooting
>>340658309
Hordes of enemies charging at me in open arenas and lots of awesome weapons to kill them with while backpedaling, jumping, and strafing like a madman.
>>340658309
>what are your hopes/expectations?
That they show us Talos 2 instead.
>>340658309
Won't be as good as D44M
>>340658309
I haven't played any Serious Sam games. Should I start with the HD remakes?
is croteam even at e3?
>>340661232
Geoff Keighley tweeted that they will show something on Monday.
im dying of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHntecipation
>>340660986
But D44m wasn't as good as Serious Sam 3.
>>340661473
right, it was better
>>340660986
>locked in a big room with a shit load of enemies vs locked in a big room with a few enemies
I don't know
>>340661215
play in this order
TFE HD -> TSE HD -> BFE if you want to jump in straight into the action and follow game release order
if not, BFE -> TFE HE -> TSE HD really eases you in with the slow paced first BFE levels. its still fun and prolly the way to go if you arent good at these kinds of games
>>340661215
It's a completely aesthetic choice between the originals and HD. Do whichever one you want.
Then, after finishing TFE and TSE, skip 2 and go right to 3.
>>340661215
yes they're pretty good. try and play 2 as well, its not as good as TFE/TSE, but its still a pretty good game.
>>340661590
>>340661617
>>340661631
>skip 2
Is it really that bad? If that's the case, what's so bad about it?
>>340661590
on the other hand, many who haven't played the series might get the wrong impression, and say "this game is boring as shit" as they fight three enemy types with two weapons for the first hour or so
t. person who tried introducing multiple friends to the series with splitscreen BFEthey all hated it ;_;
>>340658309
I hope Croteam goes crazy with level design. It's the key to get a good FPS game in the SS vibe.
>>340661327
odd that croteam themselves did seem to have made any publicity of it, but thats how they roll it seems
>>340661709
2 isnt canon, confirmed by devs
it also isnt serious
>>340661809
its ok anon, your friends have shit taste
i want to play something fun, should I play Serious Sam 3, Shadow Warrior (the new one), Wolfenstein New Order, or Battlefield 4?
I can't wait for Croteam to show up the new Shadow Warrior, Wolfenstein, and Doom 4.
no reused assets
>>340662718
have you played the first Sam? if so get 3, if not get Wolfenstein
>>340662718
New Order probably, Serious Sam 3 will get fun but only in level 3 and onwards.
>>340662759
People won't like it because it's too videogamey
>>340663216
stop
>>340663335
what the fuck did you just say to me nigger
>>340663440
I said stop you big ugly faggot
what's the matter, hurt your feelings?
>>340661709
>>340662447
>tfw SS2 is the only one I own and even though it's cheesy and trying waaay to hard to make fun of halo, it's still fun as fuck.
My hope is for more of the same, but with better first few levels.
Also more jetpack, and the return of the grenade launcher.
>>340663529
m-maybe
>>340663693
shit
sorry senpai
A reveal of that unique game mechanic they hinted at.
Perhaps it's the temporary time travel they cut from 3 but I doubt it.
>>340658309
More cursing from Sam
>>340664271
>Hey, didn't I kick your ass two rooms back?
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
All I want is actual colors like TSE/TSE. 3 was too gray and washed out.
when is it going to air
>>340664463
"monday morning" is all i know
>>340664427
Bruv did you even look at the options menu? You could not only make BFE look like TSE but vice fucking versa.
>>340664732
I played with the saturation all the way up and it was STILL washed out at times.
>>340664359
Aaaaaaaaaa yourself
>>340664931
The console command "gfx_fSaturation=*" (with * being a number between -1 and 10) is your friend.
The Saturation slider in the option menu only goes up to 1 so you can make it MUCH more colorful.
Be aware that a lot of the textures weren't really made with those values in mind, though, and that everything past 4 or 5 may cause eye cancer.
>>340665812
Good lord I didn't know about the console command. I figured the menu slider was as high as you could go. I might actually go back and replay a bit with this thanks.
I thought they were showing off some Serious Sam VR game instead of SS4?
>>340658309
-A variety of themes and places like TSE
-The return of the flamethrower
-Sniper and Lasergun not being secrets
-Some new weapons would be nice
-Alternate fire modes
-No terrible new enemies
-No hitscan enemies aside from the arachnotrons
-A better story, or at least better writing, some of Sam's lines in 3 were terrible, like the opening of Jewel of the NileFailsafe? Is that like a safe where you keep your fail?
-Better animations
-Better sound for weapons
-More color, BFE was really drab unless you turned up the saturation.
-Keep the C4, it was fun to fuck over red scorpions and scrapjacks
>>340666027
There's tons of shit hidden away in the console that isn't even in the options like individual RGB values, the ability to deactivate post processing effects (which, due to the tiny number of them in BFE, amusingly mostly means only the gamma value), etc.
>>340663563
>the return of the grenade launcher
I'm fine with both the old grenade launcher and the new Devastator. It was SS2's grenade launcher that was completely and utterly useless.
>>340666723
Jewel of the Nile at least fixed the problems with the hitscan enemies and the sniper/laser
>>340661709
I recently played through all the Serious Sam games and while I don't think 2 is a bad game, it is definitely the weakest of the series in a lot of aspects:
-Your movement speed feels way too slow, probably because they dumbed it down for the console version
-There are way too many annoying vertical enemies. In TFE/TSE generally you only had harpies to worry about which weren't that bad, but in SS2 you have the witches and the helicopters, which just fly all over the fucking place and it gets really annoying to fight all the shot on the ground as well as them
-The weapon placement is weird, like you'll have Clawdovic and the Plasma Gun for like 2 episodes, and the grenade launcher appears only in the last level and it is totally worthless.
-While vehicles are a nice addition, they control like ass most of the time and make a lot of the combat way too easy.
-You start off every level with 100hp and no armor, which can feel really cheap if the games spawns you next to hitscanning shotgunners.
-The art design and new enemies are all over the fucking place. Some are okay like the orcs and the demon tanks, then there are football players, suicide clowns, wind-up rhino toys and a cigar smoking t-rex mechanoid with a mustache.
-The "humor" is pretty terrible 9 times out of ten. The tenth one is "so bad it's good" humor.
I will give Croteam credit though, every planet feels different and unique, the music is pretty good most of the time and I do like Clawdovic and would like to see him return in some way.
That they fix something that I greatly disliked about BFE:
Not having the multiplayer characters take a part in the story but some random military dudes.
Who the fuck cares about Miller, Jones or Heli-Guy 1513?
Give us some Pirate Pete, Dancing Denzel and Rocking Ryan instead!
>>340667235
Yeah it was even generous with the Devastator ammo, which I really liked. The Devastator was hilariously broken and fun to use.
Only thing I didn't like was the final boss, I couldn't figure out how to place C4 and avoid his hammer attack, dunno if it's even possible. So I just ran backwards and cheesed him with everything I had
>>340667987
You have to stay just far away enough for him to start firing cannonballs, then rush in, plant the C4 and rush back before he brings the hammer down.
>>340658309
Make FPS great again.
Though we had quite a few great shooters in the past few years (SS3 among them), I wouldn't mind another one.
>>340667873
>Mental Mate as the main antagonist
Huh, could be fun and cheesy
Better humor
>>340669213
If the The Talos Principle Sam DLC is anything to go by it'll definitely be great.
>>340669413
I fucking hope so
>"Fail-safe? Is that some kind of vault where you keep all your fail in?"
>>340669787
>tfw I actually liked that line
>>340671116
I understand why someone would, it's so bad it's good, but most of Sam's dialogue in 3 made him out to be an idiot or a douchebag, at least to me. I never got that impression with TFE/TSE. Worst one I can think of from those is "I ain't afraid of no Quake" (yes, with a capital letter)
>>340671438
>I ain't afraid of no Quake
That was a line from Duke3D, don't ever remember it being said in a Serious Sam game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crbwNZV7ghw
>>340671731
Maybe not in TFE/TSE but Sam definitely said "These rocks may shake, but I ain't gonna Quake" in Serious Sam 2, the second level of the Kleer planet
>>340671731
There was one in TSE: "Oh yeah, shake baby, shake, but I ain't gonna QUAKE!"
>>340658309
It looks like he has a beer gut. Can't unsee.
>>340665812
Looks like Call of Juarez Gunslinger.
>>340671993
I never did play Serious Sam 2 , so I'll have to take your word for it
>>340672160
Yeah, just remember it after I posted it, I believe it was said in The Land of the Damned. Don't know why I forgotten it, I consider it one of the best level in the series
>>340658309
Enjoy Serious Sam 2 in Super HD Serious Engine 4.5
>SS4 is a prequel to SS3
>It focus on Sam's beginning as he goes from normal soldier to SERIOUS.
>>340666723
>-Better sound for weapons
The weapons in BFE feel, sound and look the best Sam guns ever felt/sounded/looked.
>>340664359
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>340672658
Shame that they probably won't be doing the very start of the story where Sam accidentally wakes up Mental and humanity is getting pushed back planet by planet.
>>340672638
Honestly I wouldn't mind SS2HD
I mean if you make the movement speed faster and fix the wonky physics, maybe change some enemy design here and there you would get a pretty fun game
>>340672714
True, but I still think they could do a little bit better, at least for the single shotgun and AR. Everything else sounds great, minigun especially is the best in the series by far.
As long as they don't bring back the helicopter enemy in 3 it'll be a good game. Who ever thought they were a good idea should be ashamed.
>>340658309
>what are your hopes/expectations?
That the dunes battle theme gets remixed again.
>>340673178
I liked AR. Unfortunately, I was the only one so I don't think we'll see it in 4.
>>340673230
Nah it was great as it was
I wanna hear Grand Cathedral remixed
>>340658309
A decent FPS instead of a graphics engine demo
But who am I kidding?
>all those graphic options in SS3
>>340673278
There will need to be something to fill it's niche in 4 regardless, something pinpoint with decent range but not able to over kill. Perhaps a battle rifle or beam laser weapon which can over heat
>>340673278
I liked the fact that it had it's own ammo type. Saved it from being like the Tommygun in the HD version, where you never use it once you get the Minigun
>>340658309
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>340673431
>But who am I kidding?
You sure ain't kidding anyone ITT, buddy.
>>340673492
Yeah, I liked that they split AR and minigun ammo pools. Minigun was too universal otherwise. I also liked reloading.
>>340673603
Sure.
a
>>340673603
I also liked that, but I really didn't like how ... military it looked.
I don't mind the reloading too much but I do wish the magazine was bigger, maybe 60 or 80 bullets?
>>340673604
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-YOURSELF!
>>340658309
My hopes; more or the same
My expectations; more of the same
Make a game closer to TFE/TSE. BFE was good but the level design in the first half or so was bland and uninspired
What are the odds Croteam has someone browsing all the Serious Sam threads over here?
Would you like SS4 to be "dumb fun" or do you want Croteam to mix a bit of philosophy and plot in it like in the Talos Principle
>>340673872
I could see them reusing voice clips from the Sam voice DLC for Talos.
>>340673328
The Guardian of Time's music kinda is that to some extend since it has some parts from GC in it.
>>340673872
Why not both?
>>340673872
I would love to see some Talos humor, as long as it doesn't interrupt the gameplay too much, don't make the same mistake Doom did with Hayden's fucking office
>>340673872
dumb fun
I hope for alternative fire modes and better weapon balance. The originals had immaculate weapon balance (perhaps sniper rifle was a bit too strong) and BFE ruined all of it by removing completely normal weapons and adding stupidly underpowered C4 and stupidly broken Devastator.
Also I hope for less hitscan, no dust clouds and better enemy design that actually considers the fact that they have to work together with other monsters in a big blob, BFE fucked up by adding enemies that were unusable in big fights like those pillar fucking monkeys or floating alien witches.
i have high hopes. we know the writers are good, we know croteam have technical ability, i just want a solid game with a lot of polish. 3 could have been significantly improved with quite small changes, like better enemies (less hit scan and cunt brides) and less generic level design
So are we ever going to get to Mental or get closer to saving the world at all
More good level and thematic design. Less Kleer, less kamikazes
>>340658309
I want it to be more like the First and Second encounter, and less like BFE. Wasn't too crazy about it.
>>340674065
>C4
>underpowered
How so? It could instantly destroy Scrapjacks, Adult Scorpions and Major Biomechanoids.
>>340674065
This pic, I like this pic.
>>340674193
>Less Kleer, less kamikazes
>mfw they show Football Glory HD or Inordinate Desire HD instead
Bring back the grenade launcher, but try to keep the weapons styled in the same "realistic" way as BFE, but behave like they did in the encounters. I also think that pacing needs to be improved to make puzzles flow better with gameplay and make 4 have less "down moments". Lastly, bring back the classic NETRICSA layout, I loved that shit.
>>340674184
NEVER EVER
>>340673965
This too.
>>340658309
its shit game always was shit game
>>340674193
>Less Kleer, less kamikazes
>>340673478
I remember my dad asked me for help when he was starting to play the talos principle and he was wondering what all the different graphical options were for.
>>340674318
>>340674065
>The originals had immaculate weapon balance
haha no they didn't, especially not TSE
> stupidly underpowered C
lol what, it has a great AoE for devastating packs of kleers
no reloading
no sprinting
>>340674308
>keep the weapons styled in the same "realistic" way as BFE
Eh, I liked the old weapon models to be honest. They all really stood out and couldn't be mistaken for something out of a modern military game.
>>340673832
Approximately zero.
>>340673641
>Minigun was too universal otherwise
Universal is right. The HD version actually buffed the gun compared to the classic version. It used to be the same damage as the Tommygun but double the fire rate. Now it's literally a better Lasergun.
>>340674193
>less Kleer, less kamikazes
>>340674193
I fucking hate Kleer like everyone but kamikazes are goat
>>340674476
>playing the co-op
>unholy cacophony of multiple miniguns fills the air every time an enemy appears
>>340674065
Middle Sam is best Sam, though I'll accept far Right.
>>340674476
I actually really like that about the HD versions.
I just really love using miniguns in any game, and since it is probably Sam's most iconic weapon I think it should be used the most.
But I imagine that's an unpopular opinion around here
>>340674231
And why would you ever get close enough to do that? There are crates of endless rockets all over the place in the second half of the game and spamming them at the enemy seems like a much safer option than doing risky stuff with C4. That's my biggest problem with it - fuck all range makes them really hard to utilise.
>>340674405
>lol what, it has a great AoE for devastating packs of kleers
And a big ass dust cloud that will cover all approaching Kleers for next 10 seconds.
Sam has female characters and persons of color.
>>340674231
>It could instantly destroy Scrapjacks, Adult Scorpions and Major Biomechanoids.
So can the Mutilator, and that had unlimited ammo.
>>340658309
Source?
Pretty sure it's not confirmed.
I want more creative enemies.
>>340674593
>I fucking hate Kleer like everyone
I love kleers!
>>340674684
I like miniguns and I like it's position in BFE. It's really good, but you get to use other guns too.
>>340674702
>And a big ass dust cloud that will cover all approaching Kleers for next 10 seconds.
You are retreating anyway so it doesn't matter at all.
>>340674749
There better not be any other human characters besides Sam in SS4
>>340674292
>>340674371
>>340674534
>>340674593
Kleer are fine for the role they play but just dumping a bunch of them in a slaughter hall is stupid. And I suppose the amount of kamikazes are okay if you tone down their fucking scream because jesus christ it is ear rape.
>>340674702
I guess it's a risk/reward thing.
Besides, it's satisfying to kill those assholes with one weapon, since they can be a huge pain in the ass at long distances
>>340674774
Uh no it can't.
Mutilator only works on smaller enemies.
>>340658309
I want a different engine, 3rd was worse than 1st in movement and jumping. Also, I want to kick Mental's ass.
>>340674774
>So can the Mutilator
If you try to mutilate Scrapjack it will grab you closer by the beam, and their melee hurts.
reminder
>>340674793
https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/740945657930915840
Do people still play 3? This thread makes me want to re-install.
>>340674948
>played through all 4 games to get stats for that
>posted it on Croteam's facebook page
>still haven't gotten a reply
>tfw
>>340675020
Watch it be some Sam VR game.
>>340674948
To be fair to Doomguy, that number is basically infinite considering that Doom 2014 made Doom 64 canon.
>>340675124
It's a Sam game. VR or not, I'm buying it.
>>340675026
Yeah, I had really nice deathmatch today.
>>340658309
a new movement system and better bossfights
>>340658309
All I know is if you keep going fast and killing monsters I will be happy
Sam is the only old shooter who has stuck to his roots over these years, I actually like the new DOOM, but you have to admit it isn't the same
>>340674912
>Mutilator only works on smaller enemies.
Wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a0UiO1DRzI
This guy kills Scrapjacks and Major Biomechanoids with it. The Mutilator is really really good in so many ways.
>>340674936
>If you try to mutilate Scrapjack it will grab you closer by the beam, and their melee hurts.
That's really not a problem. Just back away and keep looking at him.
>tfw no proper painkiller like the first one and battle out of hell
>>340675562
C4 is still better.
Less fucking parkour secrets, more unique hidden levels/rooms
>>340658309
>WWAARR
>relentless minigunning
>relentless backpeddling
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
KLOP KLOP KLOP
>>340675562
That's an amazing video, though. Almost 1.5 hours of survival. That guy is pretty good, and I can see how third-person mode is good for Sam.
>>340675562
>30 minute video
Nigga I don't have time to sit through all of that.
Besides, even if you CAN use it on the bigger enemies, it's very impractical, since they can pull you over and you definately don't want to be near those assholes.
The best use for the mutilator is probably against kleers and kamikazes, almost makes them trivial in some parts.
I hope they never change the thirdperson crouchwalking animation. It's perfect.
Favorite level?
Favorite boss?
Favorite weapon?
Favorite enemy design?
I just hope to God it won't have any of the upgrade/perk bullshit that's been infesting the genre recently.
>>340658309
Basically i want everything back from what they removed in the last one, ie colors, fun weapons, and most importantly, arenas where space actually matter rather than illimited room behind you making fights basically S+M1 for 10 minutes.
DUNES FIGHT THEME
>>340676287
BFE has the most fun weapons out of all Sam games.
>arenas where space actually matter rather than illimited room behind you making fights basically S+M1 for 10 minutes
This is spot on however, unfortunately it's also a rare criticism and I'm afraid we just won't get that.
>>340676430
>BFE has the most fun weapons out of all Sam games.
I like TSE weapons more tbqh.
>>340676203
>Favorite level
I can't pick just one, there's a lot of good ones. Off the top of my head: Alley of the Sphinxes, City of the Gods, Land of the Damned, Grand Cathedral
>Favorite boss
Maybe Ugh-Zan IV because the jetpack shenanigans were fun. But Ugh-Zan III was pretty epic
>Favorite weapon
Minigun, Flamethrower and Grenade Launcher
>Favorite enemy design
Hard to pick just one
TFE: Werebulls, Kleers, Kamikazes and both Biomechanoids
TSE: Zumb'ul or Elite Zorg
SS2: The tank bulls
BFE: Adult scorpions and Khnums
>>340676203
Grand Cathedral
Kukulkan
Double-barrel
Bull
>>340677038
>Kukulkan's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT6C_7b8e1Y&ab_channel=42SpeeDevil42
>>340674903
Pussy
>>340675658
It really isn't
>10 ammo max
>Slow ass throw animation
>Need to be close to plant it on a big enemy
>a poor choice of close range combat
vs
>Unlimited ammo, can overheated but easily avoided switching from and back to it
>Can 1 shot everything up to Major Biomechanoids. Khnum needs 2 people using it to be 1 shot
>Weaker enemies stop doing anything once to leash them, stronger enemies will rather pull you than to shoot.
C4 is useful when there a single Khnum walking about, or to get the early Rocket Launcher. Other than that, Mutilator is better.
>>340676064
>even if you CAN use it on the bigger enemies, it's very impractical
And running up to them to plant C4 on them and running away is somehow more practical?
>>340677715
Well if you time it right, you can plant the C4 and blow it up before the enemy has a chance to attack. It's a lot more risky with the mutilator
>>340658309
Souce?
I wish we could see this version of Sam appear again.
Even as a multiplayer skin
>>340658309
>seriousl Sam collection comes to consoles.
>serious Sam 4 comes to console.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>340678657
360 had a collection and PS3 had BFE. Wouldn't be the first time they put the series on consoles
>The serious engine is so flexible it can play BFE on tablets
fucking craut magic
>>340679128
They even managed to get talos running pretty smooth on an android tablet and it still looks great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbLfZFmQqUU
>>340678950
Oh I'll check it out. Maybe they'll make it backwards compatible on Xbox One.
>>340680012
I doubt it since it got zero support once it released, same with BFE on PS3. If it's cheap check it out, they're passable ports.
>>340658309
Another modern military shooter that is not fun like BFE. TSE and 2 are better than running around in always the same sandnigger cities and pressing E to oneshot monsters
>>340680354
>pressing E to oneshot monsters
Yeah, the absolute weakest ones
Try that shit with a group of kleers and see what happens
Why did they remove the grenade launcher's animation in the HD versions?
