Alright /v/, let's settle this once and for all.
What in the actual fuck even went so wrong here?
>>340635923
Expensive SD cards made to tackle pirates has turned off potential buyers.
>>340635923
Ironic considering 3ds has such a low library of games compared to Vita.
>>340635923
Losing MonHun.
>>340635923
I think my main issue with my vita is the retarded exclusive sony memory card. Why would I wanna pay $60+ just to play the games I already have, but be able to download them all at once. Total disaster. I still love my vita and I've had a lot of fun with it, but that's such a pain in the ass.
The system itself was too pricey
Memory cards are expensive as shit too
No Monster Hunter
>>340635923
>Overpriced Proprietary storage
>Insane launch price
>Mobage competition
Limited CFW support. That was the only reason the PSP was so good.
>>340636136
Yup this is pretty much it.
Otherwise great system
>>340635923
no monster hunter
only reason I bought a psp
only reason I bought a WiiU
only reason I bought a 3DS
monster hunter
I literally do not own any other game for my 3DS and WiiU.
>>340635923
Games skewed heavily towards the japanese market and not enough western games tanked it in the west.
Also no killer apps like pokemon or monster hunter (great job sony on losing that title)
No classics from PSP like patapon to bring over psp owners on the fence. High price and memory card price keeping it more expensive then the 3DS.
Bad press very early on did not help it either.
>>340636413
Is memory card such a big problem? I keep seeing people go "WTF MAKE PHYSICAL DIGITAL IS TOO EXPENSIVE BECAUSE OF MEMORY CARD PRICE". How many games can a memory card usually have and how much do they cost?
>>340636136
So much this. Whenever I saw a game on the Vita that looked interesting and checked the price out I always had to remind myself that I had to pay 60€ more for a decent SD card.
Shame seeing the PS was a brilliant little system.
Memory cards alone wouldn't have killed it to this extent despite them being awful.
The games tend to be of a poorer quality and despite all of the memes about nintendo games being censored, the vita literally has more censored titles than the 3DS.
>tfw bought vita tv
I'll have to borrow my friend's vita to play the ratchet trilogy
>Propitiatory memory cards, which wouldn't be as much of an issue if they weren't so overpriced.
>The PSP being blown the fuck open scared most western devs away, killing a ton of support before the thing even came out.
>Most people just use their phones for mobile gaming, even if most the games are microtransaction filled shit.
>>340635923
>mobile gaming
fucking why? i game when i dont have something better to do why wouldnt i be at home when ive got nothing better to do
>>340636648
PSP*
>400$
>not naming it PSP2
>memory cards
>lack of classic playstation titles like twisted metal
>only one madden
>COD flopped
>not bundling it with the PS4
>>340635923
vita is only dead in the west, it's pretty alive in japan, recently even overselling 3ds consecutive times
>>340636859
What...
Straight from mediacreate
25k for the 3DS
18k for the Vita.
Failed to market well.
Stopped supporting the system with games 2 years into its lifespan. Barely supported to begin with.
Memory card prices(not even one fucking sale, Sony?).
Shit UI (personal grievance)
Did I mention no marketing?
I can't even tell you how many people I know assume that this thing has absolutely no games. Meanwhile, they have or play 3DSes. The same system that has gotten maybe 3 major releases this year. But in short, Sony fucked up.
mobile phones SD cards and not that many good games. Hell, even games like gravity rush just get ported away.
>>340636532
>How many games can a memory card usually have and how much do they cost?
Games range from a 3-400 MB to 3-4GB on average. Grim Fandango is something like 7.4 GB.
>how much do they cost?
In the US, a 32GB card costs 80 bucks new. 16GB is 40, 8 is somewhere around 20, and why even bother with 4 at this point?
>>340635923
>What caused the Vita failure and the 3ds success?
But both are failures
>>340636532
I forget the pricing now but it was annoying when they switched to ALL DIGITAL and then instead of having memory cards that were reasonably priced like the PSP they went and created their own specific type that only worked with their system and over priced them. So now if you wanted to play games you had to buy one and then once that was full you had to buy another if you wanted to keep downloading games.
Just seen as a big fuck you and consumers fucked it right back
>>340636136
>Expensive SD cards made to tackle pirates
>Prices
>not encryption and lack of access to files
The prices don't mean shit in that regard.
>>340636532
There if a bigger problem than just the size of the game, if you don't have PS+ the save data can't be backed up independently of the full game data. So deleting a game deletes the save file as well, likewise to backup the game save requires storing the full game data somewhere which can be a few GB each.
So having a large digital library and a small card can mean it's really annoying to swap games in and out unless you pay for their subscription service. It's a scummy anti-consumer setup completely driven by profits.
>>340637381
Except they aren't.
3DS is the best seller this gen.
>B-b-but the previous nintendo handhelds sold more
Irrelevant. The market has changed. 3DS is selling the most in this new market.
>>340637428
>instead of having memory cards that were reasonably priced like the PSP
>created their own specific type that only worked with their system
Are you not old enough to have experienced the memory stick duo?
>100 dollars for 1GB
What the hell are you on with that "reasonably priced" nonsense?
what's the deal with nintendo consoles having shitawful hardware and good (apparently?) games
and the psp/vita having good/great hardware (or at least much better) and no games outside of weebshit
>>340637381
>3DS
>Failure
It was outselling the PS3 and the Xbox360, by a HUGE margin. Nintendo scaled back on the games to develop the WiiU and it sunk everything.
>>340636136
This and smart phones.
DS' ain't doing so hot either. Smart Phones killed portables.
No racebox.
This killed the vita for me, every game it has will have some huge glaring flaw that makes it not worth it.
Memory cards suck too.
I never found the expensive memory cards to be an issue.
The games are what I have an issue with. They're all fucking garbage.
I own somewhere in the region of 15 Vita games and not one of them have been enjoyable.
Meanwhile my 3DS (which I've had for 2 years longer) is still seeing regular play and I still have my eyes on a few games coming out in the future.
The Vita truly is a pile of shit.
It's super simple, Mobile Phones.
>>340637172
>people I know assume that this thing has absolutely no games
Strange
>>340636136
Sole reason I didnt get it
Who thought this was a good idea.
Also no Patapon 4
>>340637627
fuck maybe i dont remember, i thought you could use any memory card with the PSP not just sony ones
>>340635923
AAA gaming in a AA (max) market. Handheld gaming relies on the model of releasing smaller games for less and hitting a larger audience if the team does well. This leads to experiments that allow some developers to get away with stuff they never could in the modern console market.
The Vita tried to have it's cake and eat it too by having extremely good graphics for a market which generally wasn't looking for that. They have some really good games for the system, but the price of entry makes it less likely many will pick it up.
The launch can often make or break the console, which the Vita did not launch well. The feedback loop of less players leading to less interested developers, leading to less games, leading to less players began after two years of slow sales.
>>340638020
>no Patapon
Why the fuck did they stop making this game, this was one of the main reasons i got a PSP back in the day, it was so new and innovative and every sequel just made it that much more fun.
>>340638052
Adapters weren't out for a few years.
>>340638094
3DS had an arguably worse launch than the Vita, but Nintendo actually listened to people and realized they fucked up. They brought the price more in line and started pumping out games for the thing.
Sony didn't do shit when people were outraged with the launch of the Vita.
>>340635923
Sony tried to compete on fidelity and fucked over the customer in all other regards.
Then they were beaten on fidelity by smartphones and had to stfu.
Lack of early support
The overpriced memory cards were only a deal-breaker because there was fucking nothing to play on it for like the first two years. If it had some actual good games and apps on it people would just say "yeah the memory cards are too expensive but trust me it's worth it" instead of dismissing it entirely.
But the Vita isn't a failure. It's had a higher rate of adoption than the PSP at this point in both system's life cycles.
Delete this thread, OP.
>>340638052
You can use any duo, at first they were expensive as fuck, but became cheaper as time progessed
>>340635923
The "New" 3DS has sold Lee than 2 million worldwide. So that's more of a flop. What is your point?
>>340635923
trash games
trash memory card prices
trash system
>>340635923
Shitty storage system, weeb library, not enough ports of said week library to US, lackluster features, completely pointless touch gimicks, over priced.
>>340635923
most of the fucking games were for weebs. I bought mine for $25 like 6 months after it came at a local gaming store (owner had no idea what he had, he specialised in consoles and games from the 80s and 90s) and I still feel like I paid too much. I only played that Uncharted game when it became free for plus members and used it for ps4 remote play.
post yfw somebody says
>it's not dead in japan!
Console was too expensive, media was too expensive
Sony pretty much abandoned a few months after launch, only games that were already in dev or were cheap ports got released 2nd gen.
Portable Console market has shrunk a huge amount.
>neofag
>>340636172
I hope your weeb trash keeps getting ported to PC so you can stop pretending they were ever good.
>>340635923
Apart from the titcow witch game, what games did it actually have that were worth playing? And even that cost like 50€ which is way too much for a pure fap game.
>>340637428
>Just seen as a big fuck you and consumers fucked it right back
Sony has *always* done that though, all the way back to the first PlayStation. They always sold overpriced memory cards with their hardware.
>>340637492
Those ASSHOLES.
>>340638770
This.
>"Toukiden is great! It's much better than Monster Hunter!"
>Gets ported to PC
>"Oh umm, not Toukiden...I meant Freedom Wars..h-haha"
>Nep shit comes over
>Same song and dance
>Akiba's Trip
>Same song and dance
>B-but you'll never get Danganronpa!
>Both games come over
>Senran Kag-
The list just goes on and on actually.
Mismanaged early support in the west and then dropped it following that.
They seemed to think that the COD/Uncharted console players were also potential demographics for handheld rather than focusing on the original PSP audience.
Memory card prices prevented much of a rise in cult popularity and any resurgence in the west due to it.
>>340639030
Shit like this is just hilarious to see
>>340638818
>Apart from the titcow witch game, what games did it actually have that were worth playing?
That's PS4 exclusive, no? I don't think there is a vita version of it if it's the game I think you're talking about.
>>340639030
It's because PCucks are by far the worst fanbase. Any time they get their hands on actual good games, they shit up every discussion about said games and just pirate them anyway.
>>340635923
Those expensive as fuck SD cards
>>340638770
>stop pretending they were ever good
Huh.
>>340639030
>Toukiden
Generally liked on the Vita. Toukiden 2 is an anticipated release.
>Neptunia
Most agree that Neptunia is shit or just serviceable.
>Akiba's Trip
No real accolades over that game. It had a lukewarm release and mixed reception.
>Danganronpa
Some like the games a lot, others not at all.
>Senran Kagura
Shit, but much more enjoyable than Neptunia.
What are you getting at?
>>340638415
What are you talking about, anon? The New 3DS standard machine specifically?
Yes, that sits at less than 2 million shipped. The New XL is above 8 million though.
>>340638818
killzone mercs, wipeout 2048, freedom wars, the good version of muramasa
there are a bunch of really good store exclusive games too but no one ever counts those
>>340636859
Vita didn't outsell 3DS, Dragon Quest did.
The vita did in fact have one good year, but that time has passed now.
Basically, the vita is being phased out even by the third party devs that were giving it support by throwing a few exclusives onto the platform.
Both the PS4 and PC have been getting EVERYTHING even remotely good from the Vita, and in better more definitive versions actually.
That's why there's a long list of PS4 + Vita games that are only getting localized on the PS4 while the Vita version gets nothing.
>>340639350
Wait. So combined the New 3DS alone has sold 10 million units? Is that what you're telling me?
I find it hard to believe that the "New" 3DS is on the verge of outselling the vita so soon, although I'm not gonna lie, I'd laugh my ass off if that were true.
Sony just did a terrible job taking care of it after the first wave of trash normie games hit; they basically told Jesus to take the wheel and Jesus abandoned ship. Nintendo never stopped releasing trash, they've pretty much found a way to put almost all their mainstream crap on the console.
>>340635923
DELETE THIS
>>340639585
Yes, that's what I was saying, but I was getting my numbers wrong.
New 3DS family is closing in on 9 million shipped between the standard and XL.
>>340635923
>the playstation vita is set to succeed
>>340639246
PC gamers are accesable to a much larger library of games in general. Games that are "kinda good" are easily dismissed because the platform is essentially getting and has gotten so much great games to play.
>>340640205
Read the whole article. It's a gold mine of laughter.
http://ign.com/articles/2011/10/22/the-playstation-vita-is-set-to-succeed
>>340636382
This is me, but I played Freedom Unite on my Vita as well. The correct response was no quality monster hunter.
>>340640559
Thank you anon for blessing me with these keks.
>For better or for worse, Vita will be pitted against the Nintendo 3DS. But the comparison doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and even if you were to pit them against each other, Vita is still destined to sell better.
If only they knew.
Right at launch you were spending at least $300 for the console, a game, and a memory card. Those games were full console game experiences and not the weebshit out there now.
On Black Friday 2012 they had a $180 bundle on Amazon with Assassin's Creed/COD, a memory card, and the system (with one in white) which sold out instantly, but killed off all other sales which were still a $300 investment because it looked like a price drop was imminent. It wouldn't happen until after PS4 was announced and the AAA development shriveled up.
Weeb games covered the loss in 2014 as the PSP was discontinued and Japanese developers ported over their anime boob games.
The fact that there are still faggots defending the pile of shit that is the vita just proves that sonyggers are truly the worst userbase in vidya
No Monster Hunter games
>>340635923
psp vs DS
>articles about the upcoming handhelds discussing how DS will be blunder of the year considering hardware
Vita vs 3ds
>article about the upcoming handhelds discussing how Vita will succeed because of its hardware
Sony's marketing does wonders
>>340640859
I am admittedly quite the Sony fan, but I don't think it's fair to claim we in particular defend the vita.
I hate the vita and its fanbase of obnoxious manchildren, and I know plenty of other people who have been team Sony since the PS1 days who also cannot stand the vita.
It's a blemish on what is an otherwise solid company who has released nothing but quality.
Because it doesnt have a lot of games that normies enjoy. Yes it has Uncharted, Resistance and Killzone, but those games stopped being fun for them really soon. Normies dont want DT2, SoST, Persona 4 or NepNep. Thats why the PSP succeeded: A very diverse library of games, catering to all audiences. When Sony stopped producing first party games for it, the handheld died.
Its the complete opposite of the PS4. The PS4 has a lot of games normies enjoy, thus it sells a lot. The vita doesnt have a lot of games that normies enjoy, thus it doesnt sell.
You need to be retarded if you cant understand something this simple.
>>340640859
>>340637498
So the 3ds being the least successful Nintendo handheld is irrelevant? I mean the Vita outsold the Wii U but no one claims it to be a success because of that
Games
>>340641053
PSP vs DS was a holy war where the winners were the costumers.
A gen like that will never be repeated.
Nothing went wrong, the vita found its niche in weeb games
>>340641224
I'm pretty sure Sony could fart in a jar and it would sell better than the wii u.
>>340636136
>64gb Vita SD card
>100 USD
Like what the actual fuck
>>340641195
For all the shit neogaf gets (and believe me, they do deserve it) for being sony lovers, I did actually find a thread which had the majority of them claiming that the Wii U is less of a blunder than the Vita.
>>340641440
Qupting an old fashioned: Pics or didn't happen.
>>340641194
This
>Learn that a new Jap Vita game is getting localized
>It's always a mediocre dungeon crawler, a mediocre beat-em-up, a mediocre jrpg, or all of the above with naked anime girls
I like anime tiddies as much as the next weeb, but I'm not going to tolerate boring gameplay for more than a couple hours.
Vita is getting fate Extella, it wins by default
>>340641671
Shiren 5 next month though.
>>340641610
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=982856
Ask and ye shall receive.
Anyone here playing Odin Sphere?
>>340641832
imported it back in january, shit's fantastic
>>340641671
That is the Vita's niche though. It's targetting people who don't actually care about having good gameplay, ost, story.
All they do is slap some cute anime girls on the cover and call it a day.
>>340641674
Thank you for proving the Vita gets nothing but weebshit.
>>340641748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJU2xTZJ4dk
This?
>everyone keeps saying the memory card is the worst part of this thing...
>check the prices myself
HAHAHA OH WOW
This is coming from someone who absolutely loves their PSP and who became a Sonygger because of it
Mostly game on PC though, just a Sonygger as far as consoles go
>>340641913
Aint nothing wrong with weeb games Anon
To each their own
>>340641832
Maybe later.
>>340641671
Nobunaga's Ambition, though.
>>340641934
Yep, I'm glad we're getting a mystery dungeon game instead of another first person dungeon crawler.
>>340641832
Waiting for my storybook edition in the mail
Living the rural life is suffering
>>340641969
expensive and impossible to hack
sony is so fucking paranoid they ruined their console by not ruining their console
I did think about getting a Vita for a while but my finances kind of imploded and I ended up not doing it.
Was Demon's Gaze any good? It's the game that had me considering the Vita.
Who here /Sold their Vita and Couldn't Be Happier/?
Had it gathering dust in my drawer for over a year. Decided to check if anything cool is coming but nope, still nothing on the horizon that looks fun. That's when I decided I'd just sell it.
Got 75 trump bucks for it though, so I'm not too upset.
Piracy saved the PSP.
Lack of piracy doomed the Vita. I mean, the Vita hosts a ton of "weeb" games, and the most "weeb" audience is in Asia. Most Asian countries are 3rd world, and can't possibly keep up with the expensive SD cards, or the expensive games.
>>340641671
I'm happy they finally announced the localization for exist archive.
>>340642132
No, they did what they're supposed to do, outside of that pricing. That should have dropped by now.
>>340642192
>tfw VIta will become a second Sega Saturn with ton of weeb games
>>340642192
Nah I still play mine daily and regularly get new games for it. No reason to sell something you still have use for.
>>340641969
Did you think the vita having retardedly priced memory cards was a meme anon? Silly. I bet you think the vita only having shit games is a meme too. Spoiler :It isn't
>>340642202
>Piracy saved the PSP.
Honestly if I heard that there was Vita CFW I'd probably get one.
>Sony's face when
>>340642297
>Bad weeb games
FTFY.
>>340639030
Nobody ever hated Neptunia except for mustards, they still hate it because they can't bear the thought that weebs also play on PC.
>>340642351
>Did you think the vita having retardedly priced memory cards was a meme anon?
Honestly, I never bothered to look into it prior to this.
So what games are you getting next?
http://imgur.com/wiDobVq
>hack a 3ds to play free games
>there's nothing to play not even in the near future
>Vita keeps getting new announcements all the time
>third party developers abandoned the 3ds like a sinking ship on fire
What went wrong?
>>340642297
I'm a weeb, but looking at the vita's library does nothing for me personally. Especially when it has a stigma of housing nothing but low quality crap.
>>340636136
Not to mention the failure rate on these cards, especially the larger capacity ones.
Why make them so expensive if they aren't that reliable?
>>340635923
No good western games
This is what the psp did right compared to every single handheld
>>340642481
>What went wrong?
I think it's just the end of handheld games, honestly. Although 3rd parties never really gave a fuck about the 3DS.
>>340642461
I'm considering one of the Gundam games. Not sure whether to look for Vs Force or Breaker 3.
>Vita was supposed to be great
>Turned out to be a glorified PS4/PC beta testing platform
How did it come to this?
>>340637654
One has sold videogames for 30 years, the other TV'S and movies.
>>340642636
Killzone Mercenary was so good they put the dev team in charge of main title killzone games after shadow fall.
>>340642618
>Not to mention the failure rate on these cards
What's the failure rate? I've had one for a while.
>>340642636
If Rockstar just released one damn game on the thing.
>>340642451
This is what I mean when I say that memory cards aren't the cause of the Vita's failure because the public at large don't even know how much they cost.
The Vita's failure is a problem of audience, but the fat fucks here like to project their reasons for not being able to afford it as the reasons why it failed.
>>340642664
I'd get breaker 3.
>>340642481
Despite the 3DS having sold many more units than the Vita, the number of people who actually buy games that aren't Pokemon or Monster Hunter is actually far less than the total number of Vitas sold. Developers are learning this the hard way and are moving to PC, PlayStation, and mobile.
>>340635923
>tfw I bought 3 PS Vita
I don't deserve life
Soon....
>>340642874
We all make mistakes. It happens
But for real, you fuckign dropped the ball hard here. Don't do that again
>>340642945
*Also on PC
>>340642874
I never understood people that bought multiple copies of the same system, if it's not busted there's no reason to own a new one.
>>340635923
As a buyfag, it carried absolutely nothing from the PSP library. No Loco Roco, No Pursuit Force 3, No Burnout, it was like a new system from scratch.
As a casual, the name was retarded, the U.I looked like a bootleg android. It launched with one game.
As a PSP owner, it hold absolutely nothing of interest, sure it was more powerful but I could not play my UMD games anymore, and if the PSP had an ill reputation for being more of a playstation PORTable, it was worse on the Vita.
It got a great library in time, but restricted to Japan, zero support from 3rd party developers in the West.
>>340642764
From what others have said, the 32-64 GB cards can fail within the first 6 months of purchase. Though it's more notorious with the 64 GB, I've had a 32 GB fail on me within that time period.
>>340642830
Bravely Default alone sold 1.5 million units.
Fire Emblem sold millions.
Zelda sold millions
EO, AA, SMT, and many others sold very well too
Multiplats like The Binding of Isaac sold more on 3DS than on the Vita.
The list goes on.
Danganronpa is one of the vita's top sellers and that barely broke 200k.
>>340643063
People who really want CFW, but still want to actually play games. It's kind of silly, considering you typically want CFW for the chance of pirating games that you would have already bought.
>>340643154
Damn, that blows. I've had mine since 2014, and I'm doing alright so far. I'd be fucking livid if it failed after spending 100 goddamn dollars on it.
>>340641969
Also, if anyone was interested in using this in future Vita bashing threads, this is a better version.
>>340641240
>No
>Written by a Woman
Ha, the joke here is that women are fucking stupid.
>>340643006
I sure hope you didn't play 999 on an emulator
>>340643107
>zero support from 3rd party developers in the West.
That's mainly due to how all big 3rd party developers in the west have fully jumped on the AAA bandwagon over the course of years, to make handheld game that's assured to not sell millions because the handheld market is dead in the west would be detrimental to them. So the only ones left to port games to it are indie devs.
>>340635923
Their marketing was shit for a system, and it never had many good exclusives.
>mfw Vita games sell so badly that games are just flat out not getting localized now for the system and are instead coming to the PC and PS4
Comedy fucking gold.
>You didn't fall for the vita meme
Feels so fucking good, holy shit.
>>340643365
Ironically handheld games went to become a huge market on mobiles. While many who venture in AAA gaming went bankrupt.
>>340643357
No, I finished that on DS. 999 is hinted to get ported to Steam though. Unless that shit got debunked already.
The 540p resolution is not looking too hot in the year 2016.
Nothing went wrong. The entire western press is delusional because the west has never managed to fill the role of the following:
>Support a handheld console with third party games from big publishers, not indies [ ]
They go for the quick microtransaction bucks of mobile shit that I wont touch, or wait for DRM technology to keep advancing.
Only Japan has historically supported handheld consoles to great effect.
>>340643216
So why are most games on the Vita then? Wouldn't it make more sense to put them on the 3ds? I just want something to play between the big releases, weeb shit is fine.
Why does the 3ds suffer so many droughts?
>>340643483
There was no way for it to not be a bubble waiting to burst since it relied on more budget and more sales with each installment, mobiles are also another bubble that bursts from a result of oversaturation of the market with too many identical games and not enough means by which to single the good ones out.
>>340643239
Fortunately the 32 GB was in warranty, so Sony sending me another one was neat. No issues with this one over the year.
If anyone got the 64 GB outside of Japan, it'd better have been purchased fromFUCKING GAMESTOPor you're fucked.
>>340642985
I probably won't buy another handheld again
>>340643063
My first white vita had a screen crack so I gave it to my gf
Second Vita, my computer case shorted it while I was connecting it via USB (FUCKING ROSEWILL NEVER AGAIN)
Third Vita is a black 1000 I got for 80 bucks so it wasn't too bad...
>>340643760
Shit that's some bad luck with the second one.
>>340636532
A 64gig is 100 bucks o amazon.
And you need at least a 16 gig, as big games like borderlands or x com are 5 gig so the 8 gig isn't worth looking at if most of the games you wanted are digital only.
As someone wjo bought the BL2 bundle I shouldn't have bothered.
Stop bashing the vita for a second and answer this.
3DS has had a good life, but it's time for it to go soon.
We all know that sony isn't going to go down the handheld route again so when the vita dies, that's the end of sony's handheld adventure
What I want to know is this though.
Will Nintendo's next handheld be more powerful than the Vita?
I mean, wouldn't it have to be? Even though the vita is a laughing stock, nintendo can't just release a weaker system than it can they?
There's no way they'd be allowed to get away with that
>>340643216
But did any of those games break 13.9 million sales? 1.5 million is still less than the total number of Vitas sold.
>Danganronpa is one of the vita's top sellers and that barely broke 200k
Probably because most Vita owners already have the game on their PSP.
>>340642874
One of your Vita's better be for the Moon region.
>>340643760
And it's a case of fuck ups. God damn it.
>>340635923
vita owner here, just beat Hearts R.
Does it seem like every game on the system has a fatal flaw to anyone else? For DT2 it was soundtrack, Gravity Rush was draw distance... even the one Tales game on here had the worst story and localization I've ever seen in a video game, but still stellar gameplay. P4G counts because I can only listen to new chie's voice for about a minute.
>>340643997
>nintendo can't just release a weaker system than it can they?
They can if it has Pokemon.
>>340643997
>nintendo can't just release a weaker system than it can they?
They did that with the 3DS though, it's basically as good as a PSP
>>340643997
>nintendo can't just release a weaker system than it can they?
m8...
>>340643997
Nigga, they can do whatever they want on portables.
They have Pokemon, Monhunt and now Yokai watch.
Vita isn't going die soon in japan, hell even psp still have some support in japan.
>>340644061
>Does it seem like every game on the system has a fatal flaw to anyone else?
Yes. Plenty of the games look good but suffer from piss poor framerate issues.
>tfw playing toukiden, ys and cold steel
Framerate got abysmal at points.
Also I know it's technically not the vita's fault, but fuck what Ys has become. Nothing but casual garbage now compared to how it used to be.
>>340643997
Nope, if anything it'll be below or just as powerful as the Vita. Thing is, what more can they add at this point besides an actual analog?
>>340644481
>cold steel
>look good
>>340644061
I thought DT2 music was really damn good, not sure what got you miffed there.
Ar tonelico vita remasters when?
>>340635923
In no particular order, here are the main reasons why the Vita flopped:
>retardedly overpriced memory cards instead of taking an SD card like any other device (3DS included)
>system is stupidly overpriced compared to its competitor
>cheap option (PSTV) is garbage due to lack of compatibility with many good games
>Sony is seemingly embarrassed to show it off or its popular games (e.g. they won't show Senran Kagura, Fate/Extella, Akiba's Trip/Beat, Neptunia, and so on at E3)
>Sony continues to advertise it as some sort of PS4 add-on, which no one wants
>complete lack of first party games like Ape Escape, Patapon, etc
All they had to do was make a $80 "cheap" model like the 2DS, allow it to use SD cards, and advertise all the "weeb" games that people actually buy a Vita for.
>>340644554
I think it looks pretty good for vita. The framerate obviously leaves something to be desired, but it isn't a total optimization failure like Blood Drive was.
>>340636382
I followed this mindset, but might be slipping as the 3DS had literally three separate Monster Hunter games and I'm getting fed up.
Who knows, one look at the trailer for MH5 and I might by putty again.
>>340635923
no piracy
no good AA/AAA western games that arent weeb shit
no good first party/third party western exclusives
>nintendo shitters angrily and insecurely trying to hate on sony
>literally only thing they have is a handheld
>their abomination of a shitty console alreayd failed and relpaced in less than 2 years
>all publishers dropped it immediately post launch
>>340637197
>mobile phones SD
fucking wish
its shit sd cards only made by Sony for 100bucks
Is the vita the greatest example of "Pirates benefit sales more than they ruin them"?
Let's be honest here, it's been how long since the Vita came out? 5 years now? And it's a mere 1 million sales up on the Wii U.
That is truly embarrassing.
>>340645117
If it's of any consolation, Vita piracy is coming very soon for anyone under 3.60 firmware. Blackfin is basically like the Vita's version of Gateway on the 3DS. They've found a way to seemingly "pirate" games, so it's only a matter of time until someone jumps on it to make a method that doesn't require their device.
>>340643997
Sony could try releasing another handheld, but I doubt it.
So 3DS virtually has no competition. Maybe smartphones.
>>340645117
in the last 10 years ive bought 4 PSPs to pirate and play gtavcs/lcs, patapon1/2/3 and mgspw so yes
>>340645117
PS4 is far from being pirated but seeing the competition is literally between PS4 and nothing.
>>340636136
The SD cards like this post points out are the reason for myself as well. I would've impulse bought a Vita so many times, but then I immediately had to remind myself I'd be paying an extra 50% of the price of it to get a good 'compatible' SD card for it.
Just a horrible move on their part.
>>340645117
No. The 3ds has widely available piracy and it's Nintendo's worst selling handheld.
The Vita has just been cannibalized by mobiles.
>>340645260
>Vita piracy is coming very soon
[citation needed]
>seemingly "pirate" games
It's more like streaming from an authenticated server.
>>340645260
Anon anon anon. You best not be lying to me.
If what you say is true, then I might have to jump on the Vita train soon.
Guess I'll just play the waiting game for a bit longer and keep my eye out on that.
One question though. Can that Blackfin thing already actually pirate vita games, or is it still being tested?
>>340645117
Nah, software sales on the PSP were downright abyssal which led to no localizations. Vita is the opposite, software sales are steady enough to warrant regular localizations from 3rd party devs but hardware sales are dead outside of japan. Japanese games are the bread and butter of handhelds, to have no localizations is the same as having no releases.
>>340644882
>no good AA/AAA western games that arent weeb shit.
AAA devs hate portables because they can't shove their "optimizated" engine and game plus season pass.
One thing is shove a shoestring budget game on Portables, another is making a AAA and shove much market they can.
Also carts don't have space to hold a AAA game.
Following the Vita has been a treat. D.O.A., instant fucking termination the day it was released with no recovery in sight, despite being a follow-up to the PSP. Hell, the PSP out-competed it for a long time, that's how bad it was.
>>340645470
Not quite. Blackfin works by you downloading a pirated copy of the game (there's Vita game dumps around now), and then you use someone else's legit copy (who also owns a Blackfin) to authenticate it and run it. It isn't full blown piracy yet, since you are using a loophole, but I'd imagine that authentication will eventually be circumvented.
>>340645529
I would suggest waiting. A blackfin is something like $120, and it's a fucking big brick that makes it unweildly to use with anything but a PSTV.
>>340644640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rw-C0BCCIk
do you constantly listen to the preloaded ringtones that came with your motorola krzr, too
>>340645640
>Expect Sony to patch it within a week
Blackfin is pure vaporware.
>>340645576
I know what you mean.
>tfw I've been around for years, constantly reminding people how shit of a system the vita is.
It's a shame, when this piracy crap goes through I'll have to put everything on hold since I imagine there will be an influx of new buyers.
>>340636136
Is this really problem for you? Why dont you just delete completed games?
>>340645782
What part of "stay under 3.60 firmware" did you miss? They can't patch it if you don't update.
>>340645767
Sounds good to me. Were you stuck on that dungeon for a while?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQmMvFwPXWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_vLF7geJ5g
>>340645859
One look at his wording and instant dismissal should tell you that he's just asshurt.
Blackfin will open the door to full blown piracy, be it through them or not.
>>340645408
Both got fucked by phones.
And 3ds got earlier because drought of games. Vita got more fucked because Sony itself. Nintendo did what they could with 3ds to make profit. Sony just shoved away and tried to forget that exists.
>>340636136
This.
There is literally no other reason, the Vita is superior to 3DS in every way, but no one in their right mind wanted to spend $200 on a fucking 64 gig memory card when you could ones for $40-50 that wouldn't work just because Lolsony
I'm still angry because of the forced dub but I want GER to be out already. I can barely wait until the month's end.
>>340646067
It's going to be identical to Gateway on 3DS. People initially thought it was impossible to pirate on the 3DS without their $80 card, and for lo and behold, people found a way to use their code (to an extent) to make a CFW. Blackfin certainly doesn't use CFW, but it does allow for two things:
1.) Bypassing the authentication system on pirated copies of the game.
2.) Loading games from an external SD card or HDD.
If anything, I would imagine a method will eventually roll around where you can store all the "authentication keys" on the Blackfin itself (kind of like the seeddb and titlekeys.bin on a 3DS), so you can run any game you want any time.
>>340635923
Ovepriced memory cards
List of Upcoming PS4 Games That Are Also Being Released on the Vita.txt
Supposed to be the power handheld but is overpowered by cell phones
>>340645408
>The system that has sold almost 20 million more units than every other current gen system is somehow bad
People really are getting more and more retarded by the day apparently.
>>340646474
To be fair, it IS in fact Nintendo's worst selling handheld. However, I would blame this on the strong presence of mobile phone games in Japan, rather than on the system itself.
You can bet your ass that the 3DS would skyrocket in sales if it had KanColle, Granblue Fantasy, and so on.
>>340646180
The Vita suffered the encroaching of mobile harder than the 3ds because a huge appeal of the PSP was being a competent multimedia portable device, an advantage the Vita lost to smartphones. The 3ds is only threatened by smartphones as far as games go, that's why it suffered way less.
>>340646474
Seems you proved his point, familia. Read the numbers.
>>340646474
To be fair.
People tend to set the bar really high. Making a follow up to Wii/DS sales is close to impossible nowday.
The number one reason is no new mainline installments of Monster Hunter. The lack of a "killer ap" on the vita shot it dead in the mainstream market since sony dropped it.
You can argue whether Vita is a good system or not but its' library is VASTLY INFERIOR to the Playstation Portable.
>in b4 but Vita has the PSP library
that's like bragging your phone can run emulators so it's better than most console combined. Judging Vita exclusives to PSP exclusives the PSP has way more variety in titles from more genres and developers
>>340645859
The blackfin still needs authentication which is why people expect Sony to patch it within a week. It's not a fw issue, they're going to patch it server side.
Seriously go read the wololo articles and why people are extremely skeptical of it.
A chunk of the games are download only and the price of memory card is fucking insane.
Good handheld but sony fucked it over.
>>340646586
>worst selling handheld for nintendo
>a bad thing
yeah in comparision it sucks but the runaway success of the previous handhelds when they had a monopoly on the market only speaks volumes of the encroachment of mobile gaming.
>>340646474
>Xbone btfo
I don't really pay attention to consoles but after the shitstorm that was the pre-release/just after release of the Xbone with the spyware, etc, this feels good to look at.
>>340646662
>Really high
It's not selling worse than the DS. It's Nintendo's worst selling handheld of all time. Want to set the bar low? The 3ds is not going to catch up to the PSP.
>>340645859
>if you don't update
Games have minimum firmware requirements. Unless you only plan on playing games for 2015 and prior, you'll be hard pressed to not upgrade. Whether or not this bypasses the FW check, I don't know. I doubt it, given that the cart itself has that check implemented.
>>340636136
This is wrong though. It didn't cause the entire system not to sell. A few spendthrifts didn't buy it but that doesn't explain the other millions of potential sales.
I think the issue is mobile gaming. Why buy a handheld console when you have a phone that plays games too? Obviously, the phone games are shit but most people don't realize that. Handheld consoles are going to become a niche market if they even continue to exist in the future because of the ubiquity of smart phones.
>>340646968
And yet it's still the best selling system this gen.
>>340646793
>wololo articles
The same people who were hilariously wrong about 3DS piracy you mean?
Blackfin's authentication comes from legit copies of the game, not Sony's servers. So long as a crowd of people stay under 3.60 firmware and have Blackfins, it'll work fine. However, it's an unreliable method at best, since you need to hope for someone to have the game you want to play. As I said, the best option is to NOT update and just wait until Blackfin can store all the authentication keys on the device itself (so you don't need to get the key from another Blackfin user), or wait for someone to make a workaround.
>>340647007
Blackfin claims they can get around the FW check, but I haven't seen it in action myself.
>>340647037
This gen is not over yet, the PS4 is expected to overtake it sometime in this fiscal year.
>>340642717
Does Mercenary require a online pass like Resistance?
>>340641832
Yep, on Vita. Fucking amazing. I passed up the PS4 version for Vita actually...
>>340647106
Wololo is the only website reporting on the state of Vita progress regularly.
>>340647252
That doesn't mean you should take their word like the word of God though. They've been horribly wrong about exploits, especially in regards to the 3DS.
>>340647106
You seem to be knowledgable on the vita.
I have an issue, I wonder if you can help me with it.
I had my vita connected to my PC via USB and ended up using the wrong version of CMA. I accidentally updated the CMA, and now I fear that I fucked up and that doing so while the vita was connected put some sort of block on my vita, because no matter what I do I can't transfer shit to my PC without my vita asking me to update now.
Did I dun fuck up or is there a work around to this?
>>340647181
I don't see any online passes available for purchase, so maybe not.
>>340643997
I doubt it, Whenever I do switch on my Vita I'm always amazed at how good it looks compared to my 3DS.
Isn't 3DS like 240p or something? That's bad for 2006 let alone 2011.
>>340647416
Unplug the Vita, turn it off, then back on, turn off wifi, and try again. Alternatively, use airplane mode. If you don't have Open CMA or QCMA, go ahead and get that.
>>340647320
Wololo is a PSP/Vita focused site, nobody is really worried about the 3ds there. They only publish 3ds stuff from other sources.
>>340647521
Done all of that. In fact, I'm almost certain I was in airplane mode when I had the thing connected to my PC via USB.
I usually use Open CMA but I got mixed up and used the regular version since it's been so long since I used my vita.
I did download QCMA too by the way, but neither that nor Open CMA seems to do any good.
Every single time I try to transfer shit to my PC, it's asking me to update.
Think I'm fucked?
>>340635923
>people keep saying it's a failure
>when it has more games and it's doing better than the wiiu
If the vita is a failure then the wiiu was a straight up money furnace
>>340647904
>money furnace
>because it's sold a mere 1 million more units than the wii u
???
Vita is our token handheld failure
Wii U is our token console failure
Simple.
>>340648231
Virtual Boy and NGage.
>>340647724
CMA can be funky sometimes. You can try uninstalling the driver for the Vita, then reconnecting it.
>>340647181
No, only dlc mercenary has I think was botzone.
>>340648231
Saturn
Jaguar
32x
Ngage
Wonderswan.
You must be a newfag.
>>340648435
>>340648760
For this gen you stupid fucks.
Does everything need to be spelled out for you?
>>340648231
>>340648435
>>340648760
>No one mentioned Ouya
>>340648850
>Not Zeebo.
Get on my level.
>>340648850
Who?
>>340648435
>You can try uninstalling the driver for the Vita, then reconnecting it.
What do you mean?
Also, are you sure that Sony couldn't have just stealth installed something when I updated CMA on my PC while the vita was connected to said PC via USB?
Because I'm still on 3.52, but ever since then it just is not having any of it. It flatout refuses to let me do the regular CMA shit I used to do on Open CMA.
>>340635923
I bought a Vita on impulse and forgot I owned it for a few months. It had no games, it was a hassle to add music n shit, I was discouraged from downloading shitty weeb games because I knew that I had to get some proprietary memory card just to have enough room.
Circumstances forced me to pawn it because all my money went to rent and power and I had no food. I literally traded the Vita for cheap ass bulk ramen.
>>340649262
If you're under Windows, there is a PS Vita Type A or B driver installed. You can find it on the Device Manager.
>Are you sure Sony didn't stealth install something
Pretty sure that's not the case, since they might as well update if they're going to attempt that.
QCMA has firmware settings. You can play around with that. If the "latest" setting doesn't work, you can try manually setting it to an earlier protocol version.
>>340635923
>no games
/thread
>>340648007
At least Sony is admitting they're not supporting it anymore
Nintendo is still pretending that the wiiu is alive and kicking btw you're interested in a nx :^)
>>340643258
>$54.95 + tax
>32 GB
jesus christ I can go down to best buy on a good day and get a 64 GB flash drive for $15
>>340649707
Oh well, I appreciate your help bro, but it's just not working. Tried all of the other versions but nothing helps.
I uninstalled that driver you mentioned too. Still didn't work.
It's pretty silly, I'm still on a good firmware but apparently I've got fucked over somehow.
>>340638770
What is a "weeb" game anyway, I really don't know.
The 3DS library is full of nippy nip nintendo garbage and nothing else.
>>340644981
I meant mobile phone, SD cards.
So two points
>>340650858
You'll probably have it randomly start working again. You could try restarting the program as well as the Vita. Like i said, CMA can be weird. QCMA should give you less problems, though. Also, use one or the other, not both at the same time.
>>340638149
It didin't sell
>>340651056
Moe games.
>>340635923
The memory cards. They did their job of shutting out pirates, but it also shut out customers with their absurd pricing.
The also lost Monster Hunter, which was the PSP's meal ticket last gen.
>>340651260
Strange.
I clicked system update (with no actual intent of updating it, I'm still in plane mode too) and it says v3.60 is already downloaded, just not installed.
Not sure if that's how it words it all of the time, but it still leaves me to believe that somehow, someway, connecting the regular CMA and updating said CMA has also threw some minipatch of sorts on my vita stopping pretty much everything until I update.
>Sony announces the Vita Slim
>Attractive colors
>More comfortable
>Slimmer
>Cheaper
>Lighter
>Standard micro USB instead of the dumb proprietary cord
>Holy shit they can do it, they can save the Vi-
>Still uses the goddamn memory cards
>no price drop for the cards
It's like they wanted it to fail
>Wanted to buy PS Vita
>Realize how shit it is and probably will buy a PSPonce again
Thanks /v/
>>340648850
A phone ?
Why?
