At least /v/ won't defend Blizzard's blatant pandering to casual gamers, right?Right?
Surely, no one will attempt to justify this? We can all agree this should be fixed?
Jesus christ are you fucking kidding me?
This only makes me hate this pos more
>>340620691
>>340620751
>fps 30
opinion discarded
>>340620946
Can I ask why you are defending this? Keep in mind you can look at the bottom right and see PC keybinds. This is the PC version.
>>340620571
The hitboxes in Overwatch are fucked, but that webm proves nothing. Those bots aren't in multiplayer at all. They can put whatever hitboxes they want on them.
>>340621215
see
>>340620638
You can try it out in a custom game yourself
>>340621215
Please look at literally every other webm before you make yourself look foolish.
>>340620638
I think his breathing animation offsets his head-shot box a bit, try doing while moving.
>>340620807
Wasn't expecting that
>>340621215
>blizzardrones LITERALLY defending shit game mechanics
>>340621275
Scratch that... now that im watching these....
Is that fucking auto aim? What the fuck?
>>340621457
No, the hotboxes are just unnaturally large.
>>340621131
Can I ask why you are defending 30fps? Keep in mind you can look at the bottom right and see PC keybinds. This is the PC version.
So, people are angry at the amount of aim assist in the game?
Whoa, a console FPS that got ported to PC has autoaim? What a shocker!
>TF2 hitboxes are wonky with tons of RNG/Luck involved
>Nobody gives a shit
>Overwatch happens
>Everyone on damage control raising false flags on every corner
>>340621526
Hitbox*
>>340621645
>>TF2 hitboxes are wonky with tons of RNG/Luck involved
Only with Luckmans and some other projectile weapons (and they have received much criticism). In Overwatch it also happens to hitscan weapons thus almost every class is affected.
>>340621645
>you guys ignored tf2, so ignore overwatch too!
your first logical flaw is assuming people that criticise overwatch all played tf2 or know about its flaws
your second is being a gay ass nigga lmao
>>340620946
no opinion only fact
>>340621526
it DOES kinda seem like auto aim, I believe you that the hitboxes are large but for some reason the trajectory of the projectile seems to ''pull'' towards the target rather than go where the crosshair is
>>340620691
it fucking locks on to people? No wonder people can just spam that out and get kills
>>340621528
who is defending 30 fps?
>First of all, most people don't even really understand the way that the network code works. For example, the server does tick at 60Hz, it's the client update rate that is lower. That just shows a general misunderstanding.
>I think players have latched onto server tick rate as being the reason that certain things happen. One of the things that players are upset about is that if they get shot, where they perceive they were behind a wall, that this is a problem with server tick rate. Certainly there are contributions that could happen with both the server and the client update rates that could cause something like that to happen, but usually, in most cases, you're talking about latency.
>The other thing that we did, after that video, is we actually added what is called a 'high bandwidth option' to our custom games, that allows players to play at a 60Hz update rate. It's kind of ironic that they're demanding it, it's in the game and playable, and right now we're seeing about 0.08 per cent of all matches that take place in Overwatch are actually using the feature.
>Right now, for example, what we've seen is that it wouldn't work for about 20 per cent of our users. That's a problem we can solve if we get more testing on it, but we couldn't just put it live. As you know, we announced that number of seven million players last week. The last thing we want to do is take 20 per cent of those people and tell them you can't play Overwatch anymore because people were angry on the forums and we flipped the switch and added this thing.
You don't want more than 20 tick. You think you do, but you don't.
IT'S THE SHOCKWAVE
its designed to eliminate scenarios in which you as the player are denied a kill due to a slight error in your aim. The game is designed so you have a streamlined experience of wasting your time. very little ragequitting from the game itself.
It's not about hitboxes I think, >>340620691 seems to strongly imply it's autoaim
why is this a problem? Its forgiving for the style of game it is. If the heads were bigger would you stop complaining?
>>340621895
>custom games that no one plays
>WOW YOU GUYS DONT WANT IT
>>340621986
It's a problem because Blizzard wants Overwatch to be a "competitive" game
>>340621895
>we actually added what is called a 'high bandwidth option' to our custom games, that allows players to play at a 60Hz update rate. It's kind of ironic that they're demanding it, it's in the game and playable, and right now we're seeing about 0.08 per cent of all matches that take place in Overwatch are actually using the feature.
WHAT DOES HE MEAN BY THIS
HOW DO YOU TURN IT ON
WE CAN'T CREATE MATCHES, ITS ALL MATCH MADE WHAT DOES HE FUCKING MEAN, WE DONT CONTROL THE SERVERS OR MATCHES
THE GAME MODES, MAPS, AND CERTAINLY NOT THE FUCKING TICK RATE ARE NOT UP TO US
>>340622036
It IS competetive, just not for the PC audience.
so go fucking play CSgo or some shit, fuck
this is only an issues for retarded tryhard neckbeard fags
the game is fun
i know you dont know what "fun" means but its something normal people enjoy
>>340622036
once again, why is this an issue? Just know that the hitboxes extend a bit past the model, problem solved
>>340621638
DELETE THIS
>>340622048
It's just damage control for Blizzard not wanting to up the server costs
>>340620571
Yeah, they should make it harder and more competitive so it can also become a graveyard like Insurgency.
>>340621662
hurtbox*
projectiles have hitboxes, models have hurtboxes.
A large hitbox would mean projectiles would get stopped by corners and edges easily
>>340622129
no it cant be damage control because its literally a false fucking statement
why say "HURR PEOPLE AREN'T USING THIS FEATURE" when the feature does not fucking exist. How is he not getting his fucking inbox spammed with people saying "you are literally lying"?
>>340622184
>>340622167
Is this you?
>>340622212
The feature does exist. It's just broken as fuck and crashes most of the time.
>>340622292
>impossible to hit anyone while moving
I wonder who stuck that idea into his head.
>>340620571
>complaining about pandering to casual gamers in a game that's SUPPOSED to be casual
Retard. It's even on console, that should tell you everything you need to know
>>340622292
Holy shit that one autist defending against every post.
All Blizzard does is pander to casuals. SC2 was them trying to go back to their roots after so many years of WoW, but non-casual games don't make you millions of dollars every day.
>>340622292
>HE'S TOO FAST
>>340622292
>without it, it would be impssoible to hit anyone
How fucking cucked can you be?
At least link the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ
And if you want some in depth regarding the actual netcode and tickrate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHO6Ky-w0UQ
Are you going to play with him, /v/?
well at least its not as bad as csgo
>>340620807
Hanzo probably has the most bullshit going on with his arrows.
>tfw random headshots from a Hanzo that isn't even really aiming
>>340622292
this isn't a speed issue.
If Blizzard makes Overwatch truly competitive, it will become like Insurgency and peak at 10K player/day max. Overwatch is not meant to be competitive.
There is already a competitive FPS, it's called CS:GO. We don't need more big competitive shooters because CS contains all tryhard no-lifers by itself.
I understand the idea of making hitboxes bigger, specially head ones on some characters likie genji, who'se head feels really small.
But shit like >>340620807, >>340620751 or >>340620691
it's just plain retarded.
>>340621895
Thats not how it fucking works.
> 0.08 per cent of all matches that take place in Overwatch are actually using the feature.
Of course its low, nobody makes custom games to match-make with randoms.
>but usually, in most cases, you're talking about latency.
Yeah, so let’s not let people from fucking Nigeria play on US based servers, you fuck. In most cases, however, we're talking about tick rate.
>most people don't even really understand the way that the network code works
Fucking who? and it doesn't matter that the server rate is 60, the client still sees 20.
>That just shows a general misunderstanding.
Yeah okay man, you can be "right" here, but where does that get us? Issues are still persistent.
Jesus Christ, what a fucking asshole.
>>340622532
TS?
>>340622747
> 0.08 per cent of all matches that take place in Overwatch are actually using the feature.
it does simply not work.
Every defense from Overwatch fanboys are acting like it's the most intense and chaotic FPS game ever created so the large hitboxes are needed.
What the fuck?
>>340620571
This game and its features will set the standard for future fps arena shooters and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>340622086
>>340622167
yeah but when you make the mechanics more refined in a game you may be making it harder for autistic players to get kills but you're increasing the skill ceiling for the game, which 99% of the time makes it a better game.
For christ sake overwatch fanboys you should be acknowledging the problems with your game in order to raise awareness to fix and make a better game. Rather than writing them off as being completely fine.
>>340622582
Are you kidding me? This only proves that you have never indeed played CSGO. Because if you have you would have known that the counter terrorist is currently doing a "jump shot". And when you do a jump in csgo it increases the weapons spread. That's not shitty hitboxes that's a game mechanic.
>>340622167
What's Insurgency?
>>340622212
It isn't exactly a false statement, but it's a disingenuous statement, which is still pretty scummy
>>340622476
>dat tracer soldier stuff
holy shit that's just bad how did this go through 1 year beta?
>>340621842
It's hit scan.
The actual graphic is not at all related to what's happening.
>"Is there an enemy being aimed at?"
>"If Yes: Deal Damage, Play animation of ice leaving gun and hitting enemy."
Animation 'hitboxes' are separate from gameplay/damage ones. Gameplay wise, between the legs counts. It's just that the closes animation it can play is hitting the knees. But you need to remember the shot is actually perfectly straight, the animation is just not showing exactly where the shot would have gone.
>>340622827
You meant future fps mobas right? Because this game is not a arena shooter no duels no armor/health/weapon pick ups.
>>340622848
I was about to comment, but I realized how retarded that image really is - and is probably bait.
>>340622790
TransSexual.
Sessler likes the secret sausage.
>>340622848
>Are you kidding me? This only proves that you have never indeed played CSGO. Because if you have you would have known that the counter terrorist is currently doing a "jump shot". And when you do a jump in csgo it increases the weapons spread. That's not shitty hitboxes that's a game mechanic.
>jumpshot is pure luck
>b-but its a game of skill
i have around 200 hours on that piece of shit game the community is the antichrist
>>340622875
When your game is surrounded by yes men you tend to not get that many complaints and just ship it as it is.
>>340622582
If the shooter was running, the bullet could randomly fly in that direction. Still stupid though.
>get killed by widowmaker
>misses me in the killcam
>>340620571
I seriously lmao when I see OW players trying to make it look like their game is not a paddling pool shooter.
>>340622961
>le muh mean community
go play wow kid.
>>340622848
nobody is going to play your game if the skill gap is too high
Having a very small gap is bad (CoD) but having a huge gap is even worse, especially when you have to compete with other games.
>>340622849
Exactly
>>340622819
I don't get it either
why do people think it's meant to be anything more than a casual game?
yes, the hitboxes are massive
no, i don't give a shit
>>340623061
>anything more than a casual game?
We don't do Blizzard does.
>>340623061
>why do people think it's meant to be anything more than a casual game?
Because Blizzard has said that they want it to be a competitive game?
>>340623021
Kill cams not being 100% is a separate issue. The kill cam is what your game managed to record, so if you're lagging then it will look like they were not aiming correctly.
>>340623038
>ignoring the part where i mention spread being luck
ah
>Everyone in /v/ utterly hates Blizzard
>They release a game with waifus
>"BASED BLIZZARD LOL"
>>340622646
>who'se
>>340623125
Hearthstone is pretty casual as well.
Many casual games have a competitive aspect and/or community.
>>340623168
I for one like it because I find it fun
>>340620691
the bullets goes to his legs. its not hitboxes its autoaim
>>340622292
>filename isn't Hayai!!!.png
You had one job.
>>340622961
Yeah I know jump shots are pure luck, but the anon was clearly using the image to convey that csgo had bad hitboxes. Which I corrected him on, I was talking about how it was a game of skill or not
>>340623168
>everyone
>>340623125
Everyone making multiplayer that isn't just pve says they want their game to be competitive.
>>340623229
There are a lot of fun games nowadays and I don't see 10 constant threads on /v/ + the /vg/ thread.
>>340623034
True enough, but, before you get cocky, just remember that online FPS games are the bottom of the barrel in general.
Is this shit going to be played in any big money tournaments anytime soon? I just want to be there for the insane amount of rage when some team loses because they got headshotted through a fucking wall.
>>340623302
>>340622582
Why are you bringing up CSGO in an Overwatch thread?
>>340623241
see >>340622896
It's not autoaim. It's that between his legs counts as a hit, the game saw a hit, and that's how it animated the hit graphically.
The bullets coming out of the gun and hitting a target are just a canned animation that plays if the hit conditions are met (which is a hit scan). Many MANY games do this, it's just generally less noticeable.
It's not like they casualized HS by slapping on RNG because players would feel less mad if they got outplayed with a lucky drop instead of being outplayed by a better opponent
>>340623356
Despite his huge ass arrows, Hanzo isn't picked up much in comp Overwatch (even though he is in every pub game)
I would love to love this game, but the consolification makes me unable to.
Someone post the tf2 webms with the huntsman.
>>340622896
>mei's icicle shot is hit scan
it's not though, and it clearly shows mcree taking damage from it sooooooo
I don't know how people can defend this casual shit for weebs
>>340623302
anon that's due to the guns spread, it has nothing to do with hitboxes
>>340622921
There is amour and health pickups, you'd know if you played it.
but it's fun guys, just turn off your brain and enjoy :)
>>340623465
Why are you attempting to equalize the Lucksman (a specific weapon on one class) with almost every ranged weapon in Overwatch? Why do you even assume we will defend the Lucksman?
>>340623465
Huntsman is only one weapon with bigger hitboxes.
>>340623432
Casual from the very beginning senpai. Don't matter if you burn moldy bread. Nobody would eat it anyway.
>>340623549
I wouldn't really count armor pickups in the context of Arena shooter pick ups since its one made by a character, is not relevant for the other team and isn't present for 90% of games.
>>340620571
oh please, this is nothing compared to release cod: blops. never have I ever seen such shitty hitboxes.
>>340623432
Which is good
Competitive card players already have MTG and a few other games.
Blizzard went for the players who don't want to spend too much time and money to play a game. So they took a few things and simplified them.
>>340620571
There's a little kid crying outside my window at his parents to buy him something and I want to throw a clay pot at his fucking head and crush it like a fucking melon, jesus christ I hate children why do people bring these little shits to the world anyway.
>>340623302
Stop trying to start shit.
CSGO is about throwing dies, overwatch is just shit.
>>340623586
shut up fag
>>340623680
Health pickups are still there though, my point was how it's closer to an arena shooter than it is to a moba. The only thing that makes it similar to a moba is the fact that the characters have abilities
>it's ok when arena shooters do it
>>340623472
McCree takes damage because his hit box is between his legs, so it counts. The Icicle IS hitscan by the way. Pretty much visibly so. The fact the animation misaligned just makes it more obvious.
>>340622292
>Weeb avatar.
>Maximum autism.
>Perception of a fucking snail.
This makes me feel nostalgic somehow, does anyone remember the old fatlus comics, where the greaselord got stressed out by fucking Halo?
>>340623747
While it'll obviously never be competitive, you still need to invest a damn large amount of time and/or money in HS to not suck relatively.
>>340623821
>how to spot the virgin weeb
>>340623789
>it's closer to an arena shooter than it is to a moba
>heroes
>ults
>abilities
>objects
>team fights
>closer to an arena shooter
alright.
>tfw game is "broken"
>tfw I don't mind it
>tfw if it wasn't I'd be forced to practice aiming to autism levels like in csgo
>tfw I'm allowed to have fun because I can achieve a decent percentile of skill without having the reflexes of quakelord with decades of practice
Fuck you and fuck your memes anon.
>>340623585
>Valve drones will defend this
>valvedrones still mad about blizzard cucking them this hard
In this case hitboxes are supposed to be bigger, geniuses. Learn about game design and when hitboxes should be bigger or smaller than their visual representation before you make stupid threads.
Also I bet you can find plenty of manly tears thread to fill up on the Steam community.
>>340623821
>keeps posting modded hitboxes
>>340623829
>because his hit box is between his legs
He's not that well hung so not sure why the area should count as a hit zone.
>>340623764
>bohoo muh excuse didn't work :(
>>340623884
does your mother wipe your ass too?
>>340623821
It ain't so bad with a decent tickrate.
>>340623759
Nigga we both know you wouldn't go through with that.
>>340623951
I don't know, I'm not defending that.
Just explaining why the icicles shoot to the left and right, and explaining how it's not actually changing where the 'shot' goes.
>>340623759
>why do people bring these little shits to the world anyway
because they're good in bed ;^)
>>340623789
And your argument for it being more similar to Arena Shooters is that it has pickups?
I really enjoy the game, but your argument speaks more of "CoD is an RPG because you PLAY a ROLE in a GAME." I'll say the same to the other guy, it's not a moba, but at the same time it's not really an Arena Shooter by the standard of Arena Shooter we already have set.
'Class Based FPS' is the most appropriate term.
>>340620691
>Fucking aim-bot
Only difference between now and then is back then you got raped, quartered and banned for life if you aimbotted in a game but these days it's an implemented gameplay feature.
What have we come to /v/?
>>340624072
If you are good in bed you should know how to pull it out.
>2016
>having kids
>>340623878
Remember this is an 18+ website even though discussion of games is free to those that have never played said games and don't know what they're talking about (visible from your case)
>>340624210
moba.
>>340623747
>and a few other games
Care to link them anon? I legitimately want to play online TCG without rng.
>>340623976
>>340624018
I've always been awful at shooters and I'll take any crutch I can get. You can consider this bait or whatever, but getting outskilled in a fps has got to be the most depressing bullshit in any video game.
That being said, overwatch is basically a casual as fuck first person moba, I don't know why everyone is even bitching about this shit.
>>340624286
TCGs are about making rng your bitch nerd, if you can't stomach a few losses those games aren't for you.
Remember, despite "muh rng" it's almost always the same nerds playing in MTG or even Hearthstone majors.
>>340622582
So why did you brought another shitty game to justify Overwatch?
>>340623759
>they hate kids
Christmas cake detected.
>>340624328
nice bait shitposter
>>340620571
>Turn auto-aim on
>The game auto-aims for you
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>340624120
Dont forget all the crying "I c-can just make an alt" "I'm not angry" "Your going to regret this". I LOVE banwaves
If you could design a new hero, what would it be?
I would have a support that can build shield walls similar to Reinhart's. You could place them defensively in front of a bastion or turret or offensively and place them in aggressive spots to gain map control.
Also the character would be in a flying squirrel suit as their escape mechanism, with very high forward acceleration while using it.
>>340620571
>>340620638
>>340620691
>>340620751
>>340620807
>>340621131
>the hitboxes in this game are so fucking lazy they're literally just boxes as wide as your character and the animations don't mean shit because your hitbox stays the same
lelelelelellelelelelel top quality FPS made by FPS experts Blizzard.
I can bet you $1000 that this fucking game is the recycled remains of Starcraft Ghost reskinned.
>>340624429
>TCGs are about making rng your bitch nerd
Yeah, your a retard and haven't played any TCG except hearthstone
>>340624120
/thread
>>340621481
>That look as if she can see the aiming reticle.
I like how frequently Overwatch is unintentionally funny.
>>340622582
this guy and everyone who replied is a fucking idiot
Anyone who has played cs knows that spot on dust 2, the guy shooting is in the air right there, thats why the bullet didnt go where he was aiming
try harder shill
>/v/ will keep playing anyway
>>340624485
Old, aristocratic villain Acid scientist. Left click sprays pretty much exactly like Mei but does not freeze, the longer it is on you the longer you will take DoT acid damage, 1 second gives you like <5 per tick. 10 seconds give you 10-15 extra per tick and never be able to do more than 100 damage across a DoT. Right click releases ooze that increases your speed and slows enemies, stays for a while uses.
The way the 'acid' of his main weapon works is that instead of reloading he refills / reabsorbs all the acid he has released. So basically you can cover a whole point in acid, but have no left or right click ammo untill you 'reabsorb' all the ammo you've expended.
That's pretty much it. I want an Acid character as well as a Pyro, but because of TF2 i doubt the later, i also want more interesting villains. The lore of this game is really interesting but theres so little of it and no itneraction it sucks.
Quake has bigger hitboxes.
>>340622582
>684x1186
>>340624537
Care to explain how this is wrong? How building your deck isn't based on probabilities?
I've been playing MTG for a decade now, I see people crying about drawing no or too much mana almost every week. Hearthstone is even softer on the rng part since you get your recource shoved up your ass from what I understand.
>>340624858
>reddit will keep playing anyway
ftfy
>>340621818
You moron, that's the recoil from the gun moving the crosshair away from the shot
>>340624918
>but because of TF2 i doubt the later
They've already copied all the game modes and their mechanics why not copy their characters?
>>340625027
>b-b-but Blizzard innovates!!
>>340625027
butthurt fags probably.
>>340622292
These are the consolefags that are telling that you widow isn't OP and you counter mccree by avoiding him at close range.
>>340622582
1/10, you'll only fool people who've never played csgo with that one.
>>340621842
>>340621981
>>340623241
>>340624120
It's not autoaim, his hitbox just extends between his legs and because they don't want icicles and arrows floating between his legs they place them on the legs themselves. It's all visual trickery between the projectile and the trail, but nothing different is happening
>>340624485
Heal/debuff sniper with a tranq rifle. Heals do moderate healing over a decent period of time on teammates, tranq darts do very small damage over time and slow enemy movement/aiming speed and stack with more hits. Ult gives you two lethal darts that 1 hit anything wherever they hit and can penetrate shields.
>>340625301
There's at least one non retarded anon on this board.
>>340625321
>Ult gives you two lethal darts that 1 hit anything wherever they hit and can penetrate shields.
It'd have to be like. 2x slower than Zaryas ult to get put in the game.
>>340625321
That's exactly what I had in mind for a sniper/support character.
Ult could be a Supply Crate like GW2, stuns people where it drops and is full of heal pick ups.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIC6QYeWPVo
>>340623061
/v/ just likes to complain. Especially when the game in question is a huge hit.
I think its some Swtor symptom where /v/ thinks it can make a game fail by pointing out how shit it is, even though /v/ had nothing to do with tortanic.
Have to admit they are dedicated though, I personally don't get the appeal of entering threads for games I don't like / play, but to each his own.
>>340620571
>>340620638
>>340620691
Inb4
>Blizzard comes out with lore about smart bullets that can change the trajectory a bit to hit there targets
>Fanbois will use this to defend there oberwatch
>Some that complain will switch sides now that there is a "valid reason"
>Blizzard and others will see overweightwatch as a success
>Critics will say it revived the FPS genre
>others will copy the revolutionary "Favor the shooter" bullshit
>battlefield and CoD will adopt the HP bar system as hitting a target takes no skill what so ever due to bloated hitboxes that resemble the players
>They will claim they did it because it's what the community asked for as Grit screens are annoying
(Grit screen is what I call it IDK what it's really called)
>Inb4 this all happens
>>340625758
Goddamn I wish I could into Engineer but they have so many skills I want to use and such a limited skillbar makes it tough to choose between them.
>koreans LOVE overwatch which people use as an argument why its a hardcore game for competitive players
>its actually casual babby garbage
>>340627021
who the fuck cares about what korea likes
Blizzdrones Are the worst
It's your own fault for playing a game designed for children, to be quite fair.
>>340620571
I like the game
but I'll admit it's popular because it's very forgiving for shitty casual players
post yfw you didn't fall for the shilling
>cuckwatch
quit making these cuck threads
>>340620571
>>340621131
>>340621131
Could you not post the training shit. No one will ever give a shit about that
>>340631458
>tfw I bought Pool Nation VR when tons of people but I crap version of TF2
>>340620571
big hit boxes means its harder to stay alive.
doesnt make it easy. better players can kill you even easier.
>>340622961
>200 hours
so you just started, gotcha
>>340625301
huge hitbox, or autoaim, it doesn't matter
it's bad for the game and should be fixed
>>340631896
Meanwhile, people with 15 hours of Overwatch think their opinion matters.
>>340620571
4 days in the beta and I was already done with that game. baby tier garbage.
>>340631458
>>340620807
This explains a lot, Hanzo is a character that literally throws arrows at random in the general direction of the enemy and get random kills
>>340622747
>In most cases, however, we're talking about tick rate.
He is right here.
People complaining about "OMG I DIED BEHIND A WALL -.--.-.-" is about latency, not tickrate. The difference between 20 tick and 60 tick is something like 33ms? It's basically just few frames of difference visually. (And you most likely won't visibly run and die behind a cover in few frames)
>competitive shooter
>on PS4 and Xbox
What do you think?
>>340620807
Well I'm glad to know I'm not crazy when I've thought I've been shot through fucking walls.
I'm pretty sure fighting games have invisible hitboxes too. I'm pretty sure people just learn the hitboxes and carry on enjoying the game.
>>340622582
This is the most stupid counter argument. CS at least has bullets that spread, it doesn't matter that the crosshair is above his head.
>>340634148
yep.
jigglypuffs bair.
theres nothing wrong with this.
>>340620807
This explains a lot.
>>340620571
>>340620638
>>340620691
>>340620751
>>340620807
Are you fucking retarded?
If literally everyone plays with the same hitboxes, how is it pandering to casuals?
They could've kept these hitboxes and upscaled all the character models so they fit the hitboxes and it would stay the exact same game except for a small graphic difference with no repercussion on gameplay and you fucking autists wouldn't even complain about it.
>>340622632
You are fucking retarded and your argument can be applied to CS:GO aswell since that game was Overwatch before Overwatch was even a thing in terms of being a shit game for autistic children.
>>340620571
its a .45
it tends to do that, be glad there isnt a 7.62 round
>>340620571
>>340620638
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>>340621131
>I got fucking told in the other thread so I have to make a new one to hide
Overwatch has large hitboxes and the hitscan cone and projectile hitboxes are also huge.
That's better than the hitboxes being misaligned and/or coming totally off the model due to a retarded interpolation system.
If you think Overwatch hitboxes are bad and any Source game's hitboxes are good you're an idiot and a tool.
>>340631458
>friends tell me to get it
>neither of them has played it all week
>>340625880
It's more of an attention thing, it's easy to get replies if you're shitting on something even relatively popular.
Combine that with this generation's penchant for totally uninformed debate and you get threads like these.
Anyone who knows the first thing about hitboxes/interpolation/lag comp can see that Overwatch's, while plainly very forgiving, is lightyears ahead of comparable online shooters.
Shit, people are constantly bringing up CS GO and TF2, Source games with some of the worst lag compensation and hitbox alignment in any game ever.
>>340634959
LOL
oh this fucking board man
>>340620691
>The hitbox is literally just a box, they couldn't even be fucked to do limbs
Even shit indies on shoestring budgets get this right.
>>340635661
What?
Are you retarded? Look at the tracer. "It's just one huge hitbox" is not what's happening.
>>340621895
>dude it's not our servers it's the game that fucking horribly designed
>dude the game does have 60 tick it's just hidden in an optional menu with no matchmaking
>We know for a fact that 20% of our user's computers would explode if we implemented 60tick servers. We're the good guys here I swear
THEN WHY DON'T YOU JUST FUCKING IMPLEMENT PRIVATE SERVERS YOU HACKS.
>>340622119
Thats good though
>>340623821
>A game from 2016 has the same hitboxes as a game from 1999
You're not helping your case fampai
>>340635897
>>dude it's not our servers it's the game that fucking horribly designed
How did you get this from that
>dude the game does have 60 tick it's just hidden in an optional menu with no matchmaking
What? All the servers run at 60 tick. Tick rate is simulation rate, and the client and server both simulate at 60Hz. Update rate is not tick. Command rate is not tick.
>WHY DON'T YOU IMPLEMENT PRIVATE SERVERS
They have you retard, it's called custom game.
Wait, you're using all these words incorrectly, so maybe you don't mean private. Maybe you actually mean you want them to release the dedicated server code.
If so, keep fucking dreaming.
>>340636291
Are you >>340635661
You're still wrong and still retarded.
Whatever happened to asking questions? Why is it you kids see something like the Mei webm and immediately go "I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IT'S JUST ONE BIG GIANT HITBOX" instead of saying "Hmm, I wonder why it works that way?"
Assumptions are almost always wrong.
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>>340635268
Source games were not brought up in the OP.
>>340636660
cool story, bro
>>340635831
That actually could be what's happening; when a hit is detected, the game just renders the tracers to hit the visible model to look good. Similar thing happens in CSGO: bullets technically fire from you head, but the game draws the tracers coming from your gun barrel.
I'll just leave this here.
>>340637771
Why are you bringing up TF2 in an Overwatch thread?
>>340637728
That would make sense for a hitscan, but Mei's weapon is a projectile. The tracer follows the path of an actual entity as opposed to being drawn after a simple ray trace.
>>340637859
Because Overwatch is, above all else, a class based shooter that is an alternative to TF2. I'm just pointing out how the two class based shooters have the same hitbox issue.
>>340637859
Sorry, is there some other standard we should be using?
"Defending" or "attacking" the hit detection in Overwatch implies and demands comparison, what else should we compare it to?
Source games have far worse hit detection and interp but I don't remember 10 autistic threads a day where people who have no idea how games actually function as programs pretend they're somehow an authority on quality.
>>340638039
Hitbox issues in TF2 are far far worse.
I'll always prefer large/forgiving hitboxes over hitboxes that move off the visible fucking model.
>>340637859
What else can we compare it to? Show me another class based team shooter.
>>340637859
Buttblasted Valvedrone detected
>>340620571
all compensation for shit 20 tickrate
>>340638218
This thread isn't about comparing anything. You shouldn't be okay with either.
>tfw trying out new characters in vs AI mode on hard
>the bots outright cheat, wallclip and never miss a single shot
Jesus Christ this is legitimately harder than real matches.
>>340634643
damn youre stupid bro
>>340638427
>This thread isn't about comparing anything
But anon, quality is a subjective judgement. Comparison is a requirement.
>>340638595
nice argument, as always with you shitters.
>>340638427
Why not? It's not that big of a deal.
>>340624918
Mei is their version of pyro. The two aren't that similar, but you'll notice it if you look through old concept art.
DoTs in general are so annoying to play against in FPS.
I like the idea of putting ooze on the ground that increases teammates' speeds and slows enemies if they walk in it. That's kind of cool.
>>340623058
ultrafast? that's not reflex / quake
>>340621818
Yes because some projectiles like Hanzo arrows stick into things, and if they just stuck where they actually hit they'd be floating in midair because the hitboxes are fridge sized.
You can see the same thing with the huntsman in TF2. The hitbox for heads is much larger than anyone's actual head model so the arrow ends up teleporting half a foot and sticking right in their face so that it doesn't end up floating in midair.
>>340637771
Only thing that proves is how much Tf2 influences the poor design decisions at Blizzard.
Both are terrible yet Blizzard had the option to improve and make theirs better.
>>340623168
Has /v/ ever disliked a game which features cute girls? Waifus can save entire disaster games here.
>>340634643
>There are people this stupid
>>340640753
>Has /v/ ever disliked a game which features cute girls? Waifus can save entire disaster games here.
Bioshock Infinite
>>340620946
>This is the PC version.
The game is 60fps on all platforms
>>340641031
Except she wasn't cute.
>>340641253
>being this much of a faggot
>>340620946
Thats because it is on PC PC is less powerfull then the console so it cant play at 60fps
Stay mad pc cuck
AYO
What game doesn't have exaggerated hitboxes?
>>340638702
>argues if different sized characters all have the same hitbox
>>340642335
2ho
>>340637859
because /v/ is chimping out overwatch's hitboxes to an obnoxious degree but has never chimped out to the same degree for other games with hitboxes like this.
it shows that the chimpout is less about the game itself but more about /v/'s hatred of blizzard and /v/'s schadenfreude.
>>340621895
This is the exact same bullshit Activision-Blizzard tries to sell the CoD community regarding their shitty networking.
There's a reason their networking sucks and they lie about it: caters to casuals.
Same with Overwatch.
>Blizzard has always catered to casuals
>Acti-Blizz had a history of niggering with their networking on FPS games
>They lie about it.
The "me too!" casuals and Blizz bots will defend this while players who demand quality and skill in their games will rail against it. Nothing new to see here.
I can't believe /v/ of all places brainlessly fell for ActiBlizz's marketing
>>340645256
or because i played the game and it's pretty fun.
>>340645331
Ha, no. Everybody knows that if you're having fun with something somebody else dislikes you're not having real fun. You've just been tricked by merketers.
>>340637771
DELETE THIS
you should know by now that most of /v/ is faggot memesexual neomillennial newmales, especially worst alaskan goatfucking degenerates, so of course they love overmeme because it appeals to their inner weak white manlet lanklet skinnyfat cuckold
>>340649016
projection 101
Literally never seen tick rate or 20 tick rate mentioned before till this game came out.
