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>no option to let the kings take over Why?
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>no option to let the kings take over

Why?
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>>340535384
because they would get their shit pushed in at the dam.
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>>340535384
They don't have the resources, drive or vision to take over
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>No nonviolent option with the Mojave BoS for Mr. House's quests
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>Westside and other shitty settlements surround New Vegas
>Morally complex side quest involves the people going as far as stealing water from the NCR to survive
>They don't share the reputation system with Freeside
Why was that?
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>>340535926
they would have made strong allies. i can't think of a good reason why House would want them gone, especially now that he can use the Courier as an ambassador.
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>>340535926
Mr. House is so perfect they needed to make up a reason for you to not join him.

Also it fits since BoS are whiny bastards that don't like anyone having shiny tech that isn't them.
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>>340535926
Here is the mod to allow the alliance.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37729/?
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>>340536102
House despises them and thinks they're fucking brutish and ridiculous
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>>340536882
It also makes sense when you consider they are basically an insane cult. He wouldn't want to ally with a group whose ideology basically states they should be the rightful owners of all his technology.
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>>340536102

I think it was sawyer who basically said that he forced you to kill them with house because otherwise house would have been a pure good route instead of a soft grey. There's really no moral ambiguity about going with a guy that will let everyone live and take humanity to the stars.
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>>340536882
Well he's fucking right

House did nothing wrong
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>>340535926
Courier: Sorry Mr. House...but Veronica's my friend

House: So was I
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>>340535926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87US9AXNMME

absolutely roasted
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>>340537182
as with the NCR, the Brotherhood are known to stand down when faced with a superior enemy. so i think they would be open to negotiation, especially if House knew exactly where their secret hide-out was. this >>340537839 must be the actual truth.
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They're just a small street gang that can barely hold down freeside. They can't even push out a bunch of squtters without your help
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>>340538431
this
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>>340537839
Sure there would be, he'd still be a dictator. And there would be much easier ways to emphasize that aspect of siding with him than just saying "oh well I guess we'll just make him insist on killing one faction."

>>340538367
Stand down, yes, but that doesn't mean they ended up partnering with the NCR and accepting their authority. They still basically regard NCR as an enemy, just one they don't have the firepower to outmatch.
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>no option to kill Mr. House and plug Doc Mitchell in the machine
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>people mistake Anthony, House's half-brother who cheated him out of his inheritance when both his parents died at a young age, for House himself
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the Brotherhood is dying no matter how you look at it, and even the NCR truce ending is just delaying the inevitable. Unless they change their tune, they'll always be a small group of tech cultists hiding out underground.
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>>340538835
>you plug Easy Pete into the machine and he detonates every explosive in the Mojave
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>>340538743

The thing is Caesar already fulfills the brutal dictator role. House is his counterpart showing the advantages of a benevolent dictatorship. If you make him an insane autocrat you basically just have two Caesars Legions one with meat and one with robots. It wasn't the best option available I'll give you that but it did allow house to retain his own character instead of just being the lite version of another faction.
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>>340535384
I wiped them out at level 5 with a sawed-off shotgun and a laser pistol. They're pushover wannabe gangsters and have no place in the Mojave taking pride in petty crime.

"Hey man gimme 50 caps to see the King"
>Figure a pair of 20 guage shells is worth about that much
>Give the fucker his pay in lead
Wipe out the entire gang of pussies in a few minutes
>Find the King hiding in a corner
>Cure his severe case of baby-backed bitch with a double dose of buckshot, consumed orally
>Reach level 6
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>>340537839
As a Housefag I don't believe House will bring people to space any time soon, but I do believe he can help rebuild and improve people's lives, he just can't do it because he's got an army at his doorstep and another army in his backyard
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>>340538916
Not Bethesda's BoS
>Liberty Prime WOOHOO!!
>LASERS! BOMBS! PEW PEW!!
>Are you having fun yet you slob sucking swines?
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>>340538835
>>340538989
>plug in the most Fantastic man in the Mojave
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>>340535384
>No option to activate the robot army, but then give them to the NCR
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>>340539156
>you find Oliver Swanick's decaying corpse out in the desert and revive his brain to rule Vegas
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>>340539134
Despite my problems with 4 I really liked full-scale war BoS.
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>>340539201
that seems like it would just lead to an abuse of power, or further laziness from Oliver/Kimball
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>>340539201
>give it to NCR
>3/4 of the robots get sent back home to protect brahmin
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>>340539273
Almost like a grey-area, fantastic man.

>>340539290
Even greyer!
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I'm still mad there's no ranger armor in Fallout 4
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>>340539226
Yeah, Broken Steel was good. Though they robbed us of another battle sequence by making the giant tin can come back.
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>>340539456
Mods
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>>340539456
>Ranger Armor
>Boston
You do realize these two things are three thousand miles away from each other, right?
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>>340539854
So? It's just armour, Bethesda brought entire factions to the east.
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>>340536102
House despises the Brotherhood (there's a youtube clip of his opinion on them), and the Brotherhood would NOT play well with House.

The Brotherhood is violently opposed to anyone but them having advanced technology. Not just that, but the Mojave chapter is shown to be so devoted to adhering to their code, they do it even when it's directly causing them to die out. The BoS wouldn't see anything but House as a threat, and a direct violation to what they believe in. They'd want to control the Lucky 38 and the tech he has stored in it.
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>>340539854
Maybe he wanted something as cool as the ranger armor
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>>340539456
>fallout 4
>anywhere near california
pick one you retarded bethesdrone
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>>340539456

Bethesda's done enough to shit on the lore.
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>>340539210
Finally...After all these years...I HAVE TRULY WON THE LOTTERY
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>>340539854
I'm sure it could fit somewhere into the mix in the Fallout "lore", especially because it takes place years after New Vegas, so some traveler could have wandered over in it
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>>340539854
Hundreds anon. Though Ranger armor or a similar variant was originally a US marine spec ops armor.
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What's the difference between WME and WMX?
Which one is better, if I want modifications for unique weapons?
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>>340539156
I can't imagine a more hilarious form of hell
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>>340538743
they would be more amenable to House, since he is not a big fan of the NCR either, he only uses them for revenue. House is a scientific juggernaut, NCR is the opposite. i think they could have been great friends, at least if McNamara was the Elder and not Hardin. House could benefit from having an army that isn't entirely mechanical.
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>>340540023
Anon, New Vegas happened like 6 years before 4.
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>>340536102
>>340535926
BoS are a bunch of shits and would never have allied with House
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>>340539963
then a requirement for the alliance would be to complete Still in the Dark in favor of McNamara. if they can reconcile with the NCR they can make friends with House.
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>>340540120
while I'd like to see the Brotherhood reach out like that, Veronica's quest shows that they aren't even willing to make baby steps in working outside of their comfort zone, and have to follow the codex to a T.
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>>340540175
thats not what he meant
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>>340540175
New Vegas takes place in 2281
Fallout 4 takes place in 2287
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>>340540214
The Brotherhood is an allusion to strict religious doctrines. Of course they're going to take scripture over progress.
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>>340535384

If your primary concern is getting The Kings the best possible ending, then - ironically - your best bet is to ally them with the NCR in an NCR victory.
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>>340540214
that quest only shows that Brotherhood personnel need to remain with the Brotherhood. Veronica has shown to be a more careless member, and if anyone is at risk of revealing sensitive secrets, it would be her.
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>>340540323
with House, you need to incite war between he NCR and them for him to leave them alone, otherwise they get wiped out
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>>340540323
Or if you go House, get Kings to kick squatters out
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>>340540120
NCR is more scientifically progressive than BOS or House.
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>>340540518
you tell 'em, man!
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>>340539456
>Why doesn't Boston have LAPD riot gear?
>Why didn't the rangers cross over the Rockies and Appalachia just so I could use it?

Since you don't give a shit about lore just mod it in.

>>340540040
Ranger was riot gear. The variants are specialized riot gear, with the Lonesome Road variants being military riot gear.
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>>340540653
Fantastic wasn't part of the NCR until they showed up in the Mojave.

The Followers are the only faction currently progressing science in the west outside of the isolated Big MT, which means the NCR directly benefits.

They make a big deal about the BOS not moving forward, and House hasn't started any sort of innovation yet.
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>>340539061
In all the time that House has been cooped up in his tower he's only managed to clean up a penthouse suite he can't even use. House doesn't care about rebuilding, he just wants control. If he was truly a techno-genius then he would spend at least some of his time designing things that help people instead of just trying to hoard more guns.
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They're a street gang not a faction that could handle having actual control over the mojave
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>>340540323
If you ease tensions and proceed with the Independent ending, Freeside becomes a stable region and the Kings help out with refugees.

Inciting violence in an Independent Vegas isn't particularly good, since it kills revenue.
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>>340536019
Because North Vegas and Westside are underdeveloped and underemphasized as all hell, a lot of people never even find those locations on their first playthrough.
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>>340540881
Again, tell me how do you expect House to build shit if there's two armies ready to sabotage things if they get the chance?
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>>340540661
Could just be Boston Riot Police gear, give it basically the same design and call it a day. Not as if police officer uniforms vary *that* much, especially not riot outfits
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>>340540832
the followers couldn't even figure out a way to make their own Fixer without the Courier's help, and the NCR's CSI is conscripting mercenaries to get their shit done. meanwhile House invented immortality and is controlling an entire city from the bowels of the most advanced piece of real estate for hundreds of miles in any direction.
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>>340540380
>>340540421
>>340540996

The Kings' might prefer to be left alone out of pride, but the simple fact is that a large-scale relief effort from a powerful outside force is the most effective method of helping their community escape their current poverty.
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>>340540067
>What's the difference between WME and WMX?
The mods? They have the same objective, but WMX received more updates and compatibility. And yes, it does have mods for the unique weapons.
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>>340541094
That's how they could have shoehorned it in, but they didn't.

Bethesda wants/wanted power armor to be the schtick for Fallout 4. Why would they include a better armor that doesn't require tedious power mechanics?
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>>340540881
They mention ingame that House has only reawakened relatively recently, and has already gotten the families to work under him and made the Vegas strip into a functioning facility, improvising a truce just as the NCR rolled in. Not saying he's a saint or a miracle worker, but he's been able to do quite a bit with the major restrictions he's facing.
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>>340541121
Be fair, a research group is not prepared to fight a whole vault of killer plants
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>>340541121
That is the Followers in the Mojave, who have extremely severely limited resources. I am referring to the Followers in the NCR.

>meanwhile House invented immortality and is controlling an entire city from the bowels of the most advanced piece of real estate for hundreds of miles in any direction.

He did all of this two hundred years ago. He has gotten his area to almost what it used to be. That isn't progress.

I don't doubt House would become the most advanced area outside of maybe the Institute, but in the game he is sitting and twiddling his thumbs.
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>>340540661
>>340541094
https://youtu.be/Dquq8DABdw8
Well considering how the US was repressing riots back during the war the difference between peacekeeping and military equipment probably got blurred.
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>>340541374
To put it more concretely, the Strip has been in existance for all of 7 years in-game
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>>340536178
This, this is basically the reason Sawyer gave for it happening. Originally there was a way for you to make a truce and you can still mod it in (see >>340536320)
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>>340541126
While NCR relief for Freeside might succeed in the short run, consider that NCR in its own home territory has its own share of slums. It's unlikely the NCR will continue to help Freeside in the long run, especially considering an NCR victory supports the heavily expansionist and conservative regime that diverts most of its resources to conquering.
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Are there some good plot mods for a House playthrough?
I've played the Restore the Lucky 38 mod, it was comfy hanging around on the big hotel. Would be nice finding more stuff related to House.
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>>340541426
you just criticized House for doing the exact thing that the NCR is doing. if it weren't for Courier intervention, the NCR would have been crushed in the second battle of hoover dam and Hanlon is the only person who seems to realize that. any scientific progress they made in the mojave would have been irrelevant after that.

returning a city to its former glory after a nuclear holocaust is progress. House wants to start a space program, he's the only person in the game advanced enough to even consider that idea. and while it may be 50 years down the road its a bigger goal than to get a power plant running.
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>>340541021
What did he build in the time between the bombs dropping and those armies showing up? A junk wall around 3 casinos? A subjugated population that is preparing to rebel against him? Where are the solar panels or power plants or farming equipment?
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>>340541856
Can you fucking read?
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>>340541513
Weren't those riots in Canada, which was being annexed by the U.S.?

Hopeville is a better example of the government tackling domestic riots, rather than the military quelling a population being invaded. Then again, Hopeville was a military town, so you might have a point.

Just to clarify:
>Regular ranger armor is LAPD riot gear turned into NCR ranger armor, so it would be highly unlikely to find it in Boston
>Desert ranger armor was issued to the Marines during the Gobi campaign and only shows up in Zion because of the Survivalist; it was originally owned by an actual Marine and god knows wear the Survivalist got it
>Advanced riot gear was used by the 11th Armored Cavalry specifically to deal with Hopeville riots
>Elite riot gear was used by the NCR specifically to deal with the new Hopeville riots

I'm pretty sure the marine armor in Fallout 4 is roughly the equivalent to ranger armor, all things considered.
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>>340539030
Defeating them on Very Easy difficulty doesn't count.
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I kinda wish the DLC stuff resulted in more changes in the main game interaction, though I realiz why VA budgetary concerns and limited time made that the case.
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>>340541374
In all my time playing NV I've somehow never seen this. If that's true then my point falls apart but if he was conscious and capable of manipulating his securitrons from the moment the bombs fell then he hasn't accomplished much. If he rebuilt the strip in seven years then he sucks a little less but I still think he is too arrogant to lead a large society. Each family has plans to betray him.
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>>340541849
> if it weren't for Courier intervention, the NCR would have been crushed in the second battle of hoover dam and Hanlon is the only person who seems to realize that

"Crushed" is exceptionally strong wording.

Victory for all sides relies on the Courier. The NCR and the Legion are roughly equal in terms of their force. House is powerless until the Courier turns on his securitrons.

Hanlon is a depressed shell-shocked traitor. I don't take his word any more than any of the other people in charge in the NCR.

>returning a city to its former glory after a nuclear holocaust is progress

New Vegas is nowhere actually close to prewar Vegas, and is far from being the most advanced civilization in the wasteland, robot army or no.

Like I said, House could easily become the most advanced faction outside of isolated parties, but as of present, letting tribals run your dilapidated casinos, filling a Vault with concrete, and having robots keep the peace isn't particularly scientific progress.

Infrastructure progress, maybe, but not scientific progress.
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>>340539030
What even is the point of this post?

You think you're tough for beating dudes in leather jackets wielding straight razors?

The Kings are also not really criminals outside of Pacer, and even then there's a very fine line between a protection racket and genuine protection in the wasteland.
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>>340542091
>Weren't those riots in Canada, which was being annexed by the U.S.?
The dissent actually spread to the US especially when word of what they were doing in Canada came out. Anti war activist came out of the woodwork and was put-down hard.

That was i distraught that when i first played Fo4 everything was just peachy. Everything by that time was falling apart and was just sugar coated. They could have shown us that.
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>>340542389
if you think Hanlon is a traitor, you are clearly biased. upper management wasn't scared enough. a man doesn't put a gun to his head if he thinks he's done the right thing. he did what he thought was necessary.

new vegas isn't close because of console limitations. look at the concept art for the originally planned vegas, if you can find it. i know some of it is in that DVD that came with the pre-orders. it's still head and shoulders above anything the NCR has erected in the mojave, and they've already been there for how long, 12 years? there is more potential with him than anyone else, even the Brotherhood.
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>>340542513
They had it coming. They deserved it. Punk.
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>>340541849
>only person advanced enough to consider that
What about the Repconn ghouls that literally go to space in the game?
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>>340542347
Saying each family has plans to betray him is a little inaccurate.

The Omertas, absolutely, but their plan only hinges on the Legion coming in, and even then, if Caesar is dead Lanius wipes them out for being backstabbing cockbites. Their plan to dirty bomb the Strip? Ultimately not a serious threat to House, considering he has securitrons. An incredibly momentary setback and minor PR problem.

Benny is really the only Chairman with eyes on usurping the throne. Swank and the rest aren't cool with it.

The White Glove Society even less so. Mortimer is willing to sell out Vegas in exchange for being able to practice cannibalism, but the rest of the White Gloves are quite content under House.

I agree that making drug-peddling slaver tribals and cannibal tribals the start of your new city isn't really that smart of an idea, especially giving them that much autonomy.
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>>340542816
Pretty sure even if you manage to improve their navigation systems they still end up landing somewhere else on Earth considering their trajectory on launch
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>>340542939
Plus they walk back to Novac to help evacuate.
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>>340542997
That's for the legion ending correct?
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>>340542702
Regardless if he's done the right thing, he's literally killing his own troops through his actions. Calling me 'biased' (to what, exactly?) isn't going to change that. He needs fucking therapy.

I have all that stuff. Concept art is great and all, but Avellone and Sawyer go back on a lot of it - look at the Fallout Bible.

I will repeat, for a third time, that House CAN become the most advanced faction. Currently he is not, and the NCR has him currently beat.

Don't bring up the Brotherhood, there has not been any hope of progress with them since Fallout 2. They will only ever turn things on, not invent them.
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>>340543118
They return in every ending if you don't kill them to help fight against the Legion, regardless if they succeed.
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what's a good way to play the DLCs without becoming ridiculously overpowered in the main game or screwing up the pacing? (like when in the progress of the main questline)
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if you go Yes Man their ideals will basically live on
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>>340543298
You'll become overpowered easily anyways
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>>340543298
HH = Lvl 10, OWB = Lvl 20, DM = Lvl 30, LR = Lvl 40.
On a sidenote, you will screw over your maingame eventually anyways, even without DLCs.
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>>340543298
By not playing the DLC or ignoring all side content, you get a lot of XP from them.
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>>340543183
biased towards the NCR, if you really think they are more scientifically advanced than the guy who made the biggest breakthrough in scientific history. a crude form of it perhaps but humans have been craving immortality since ancient times. there is not a soul in the NCR who could have accomplished that feat. and all he needs is a loyal companion to help him blow the lid open and start colonizing the moon.
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I thought all the factions and endings in New vegas were garbage. Had the entire game been the search for the man who killed you it would have been a WAY better game.
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>>340543891
Shut up and give me more loli you dirty boy
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>>340543183
I hate to bring fallout 4 in to a nice NV thread but did the eastern BoS find the blimp and repair it or did they make it on their own?
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>>340544063
they pulled it out of the plot hole
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>tfw helping out all the small communities
feels good man
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>>340543298

That's not going to be easy since Lonesome Road basically requires you to have a really tough character.
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I always thought it'd be funny if the Kings pulled an Islam

I mean, they could. Technically. But it would be "in poor taste" so will never be in the game sadly, despite being potentially funny and weird as shit.
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>>340543763
Houses flaw in my opinion is that he is too egotistical to ever get a loyal companion. He treats a 10int courier like a retarded lapdog. Sure the life support system is impressive but he isn't the kind of person that would share that tech, it is his alone and so it will become his tomb.
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>>340536102
The brotherhood would want his tech mostly his life sustaining shit. House would not and does not want to share shit. So house misleads you.into thinkimg the brotherhood iss bad and shit since he knows theu can or could become a potential problem if left.unchecked
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>>340538916

It depends on which chapter of the brotherhood we're talking about.
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>>340544442
The Good Karma House.
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did you let Dean live?
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Should I use this mod:
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61592/?

or just grab the regular version of jsawyer?
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>>340544818
I befriended the shit out of him to the point he felt uncomfortable.
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>tfw you have to do most of Legion's questline to be able to kill caesar during surgery
>this means you have to convince boomers and white glove to support legion
what's the use of my character's medical skills now
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>>340539030
>petty crime
>literally helping freeside
>second best group there after the followers
>you had to be an edgy cunt and murder the broest tribe in the game
nice one retard
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>>340545246
Getting fucked up on stimpacks and guava fruit.
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>>340545246
you can change the Boomer's allegiance whenever you want to and you can fuck up the white glove quest too
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>>340544818
sometimes but generally yes. I think his story has a satisfying and fitting ending for both his conclusions
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>>340542816
>implying they actually made it into space and didn't die in a horrible explosion
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>>340545483
>>340545246
>implying the boomers align with anyone but you
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>>340545812
>he never finished the game
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>>340545812
they didn't make it to space but they didn't die either, they show up in one of the endings to defend Novac
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Posting best gunfu
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>tfw love the followers
>the only ending good for them is NCR
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>never played through any of the DLC until a few days ago

I am a fucking idiot, Dead Money was fantastic. I have high hopes going forward.
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>>340546314
Honest Hearts is next, then Old World Blues and lastly Lonesome Road. Release order.
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>>340536102
>they would have made strong allies.
no they wouldn't. they got their shit kicked out of them at helios, they're off the grid with the rest of the brotherhood and even then the rest of the brotherhood and house wouldn't get along.
house is about control and the bos is also about control, neither wants to shared said control, they are incompatible as allies.
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what about a fallout spinoff game where you're working at restoring the railroad/road network for NCR? imagine the antics you could get up with along those rails, imagine the comfy when sharing a tribals first sarsparilla in the sunset, sweat on your brow. train barons fighting over trade rights. it could be ok
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>>340546308
What do you mean? When they run into the Khans again they create their own empire.
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I just got this for 360

Should I wait to do the dlc after the main story or am I fine to do them whenever?
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>>340546519
what
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>>340546437
oh shit I went honest hearts first. but I heard they don't really connect that deeply to one another? still that explains the bulletsponges
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>>340539854
>caps
>soups
>enclave
>eastside
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>>340546519
followers are an organization all over the core region

the ending slide for the new vegas followers, is likely not the same thing as the followers mentioned in the khans' ending
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>>340546509
Trainwiz put your name back on
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>>340546562
>console

Maybe just give up altogether and consider suicide
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>>340540832
>The Followers are the only faction currently progressing science
WRONG: ncr has their own science diversion
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>>340544875
use this one, regular jsawyer is obsolete
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>>340546598
Nah, HH is best first because it's completely unrelated to the plot that the other 3 (loosely) weave.
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>>340543763
House has absolutely no monopoly on living forever, and he did not do it first.

I am a House/Indie fag so please fuck off.
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>>340535926
>play FO3 and get biased as fuck because they help you
>play FONV BoS are fucking cunts and they don't outright kill you because you find Veronica
>if you just pick up the collar instead of going with veronica you will be made their bitch
I mean I like BoS and they are good allies but they are fucking cunts
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>>340546598
Nah it's fine, Honest Hearts is the most flexible. Heck I'd say other than release order another good way to go about it is HH > DM > OWB > LR
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>>340546756
no need to be so mean
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>>340541849
>he's the only person in the game advanced enough to even consider that idea.
but what about Chris and the REPCONN ghouls
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>>340546762
>ncr has their own science diversion

Related to the Followers
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>Make a New Vegas thread
>Don't include "New Vegas" anywhere in the post
Yeah fuck that catalog shit, right? Fucking summerfags
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>>340546825
In the first game their test for entry is "go to an irradiated hole in the ground and get a thing" hoping you'll fuck off and die.
They change their tune when you come back succesful.
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>>340538246
What is the origins of that quote?
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>>340547073
In a way I suppose. They stole a lot of Followers members when they were created but that's about it really, they don't work together.
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>>340547039
They don't wanna go to space they wanna use the rockets to get to somewhere extremely irradiated, its why Chris couldn't come along.
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>>340547073
>Related to the Followers
nope.
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>>340547136
>>340546825
They've always been assholes, except in 3 where they're Neutral Good. I always do the BoS quests before ever meeting Veronica.
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>>340546040
>dinner bell
>best gunfu

I'm not mad ,anon, I'm just dissapointed
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>>340547094
wish we would just call it /nvg/ so it'll always be easy to find.
sometimes there's just some lyrics of a song, that's hard to find aswell
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>>340546467
but like i said before, the brotherhood with McNamara as their Elder were willing to side with their mortal enemy.
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>>340546040
>>340547324
i like the huntingrifle the best, plenty of ammo and fun to snipe with
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>>340546818
>>340546998
glad to hear it
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>>340547037
He is ah Mean Son of a bitch
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>>340546314
>>340546437
>>340546598
>>340546818
>>340546998
I think it should go

>Honest Hearts
>Old World Blues
So you can go directly to the source of the Cazadors and the Vault 22 plague which both feature in the backstory
>Dead Money
So you can find Elijah and Christine after finding all the info on them (plus I'm pretty sure Christine has additional 'dialogue' if you do OWB first).
>Lonesome Road
Should always be last, plus Dead Money specifically ends with the other characters talking about the battle at the Divide.
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>>340547245
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Office_of_Science_and_Industry
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>>340547457
if we're going to specific dialogue OWB ends with "the courier only has one more road left to walk, one they must walk alone".
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>>340547435
I usually use pic related if I want to snipe. The only problem is that it takes a while to get
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>>340547557
>following the breaking of ties with the Followers of the Apocalypse.
so the exact opposite.
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>>340547413
yeah but house isn't willing, he'll only want to ally if it's convenient for him and if he doesn't have to bargain down
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>>340547557
>is the primary research and development agency within the NCR, following the breaking of ties with the Followers of the Apocalypse.
thanks for proving me right.
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>>340544818
No, I was repulsed by him.
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>>340547593
don't like using scopes that much, they bounce too much
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>>340547740
what isn't convenient about having more guns on your side?
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>>340547237
but what could be more irradiated that space?
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my friend finish new vegas without ever finding Camp McCarran
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>>340547946
Just raise your guns skill. You may also not have high enough strength.>>340547946
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>>340548005
house has an army, he doesn't need more guns, specially guns that can change their minds and betray him
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Followers of the Apocolypse were the only group worth siding with in New Vegas.
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>>340547237
They literally want to go to the Moon, which is constantly bombarded by solar radiation due to a lack of atmosphere.

Also, Chris probably couldn't come because they didn't bring oxygen or food, since ghouls only need radiation to survive.
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>>340548121
Especially since BoS by nature covet old technology
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>>340548038
what did they think of the game?
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>>340548157
>Not the Boomers
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>>340548157
yeah but how much can you really side with them? I wanted to pretty badly but I never found a quest to be a way in
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>>340548038
I have no idea how some people do this. I can understand not finding some of the more obscure locations in the middle of nowhere like Chance's Map or even Brocflower Cave, but there are people who manage to go entire playthroughs without finding shit right outside the strip like McCarren and Westside.
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>>340548302
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>>340548335
if you max your reputation they make you a member, i dont think theres benefits though
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>>340548335
You have to help them out a great deal, donate things. You get a really cool science outfit at their secret outpost.
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>>340548440
They give you a safehouse (which is incredibly bugged) which has a bunch of energy weapons in it, and give you a labcoat which boosts your medicine and science skills.

Otherwise there's no benefit. It's extremely easy to get though, even without doing their quests.
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>>340548157
SJW detected
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I want to see female Enclave in power armor
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>>340548358
>Westside
Lets be fair, you hardly ever have a reason to go NorthWest of Vegas and when you do, it's stuff way off in the distance like the Followers safehouse or Jacobstown

I don't think anything points you directly to Westside or North Vegas Square
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>>340548121
he has an army that can defend new vegas, they aren't capable of expanding beyond that role. and since the Courier is the most valuable figure of them all, he could be the ambassador between the two and keep the peace, because if they lose the Courier, they're both back to square one.
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>>340548243
they liked it alot more than 3, like i told them would.

>>340548358
worst part is they had the explorer perk
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>>340548536
I like how their safehouse is the second most visible building in the Mojave after the Lucky 38
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>>340548660
he doesn't want that though, you might appeal to reason but house only wants it his own way
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>>340548543
Westside is right next to the strip, though. It's not like it's a rural town like Novac, it's literally within sight of the Strip's walls. There is a giant sign right outside the southern end for The Thorn, which is mentioned by people in Freeside. Unless you're not really exploring and only going where quests tell you to go, it's not exactly hard to stumble across.
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>>340548358
>Chance's Map
what is the story with this stuff? I found his map, which I Think was the same as the world map, and I found his grave in which is a unique knife and a khan outfit. I took the knife to the khans thinking they'd be angry that I'd robbed their legendary friend's grave but nothing. Is there anything to do with this? can you learn Chance's story?
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>>340535384
So with Fallout 4 taking place 10 years after 3 and 6 after NV where do yall think the Lone Wanderer and The Courier are now?
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>>340548930
He was a character in a prequel comic for NV featuring Benny and the other Khans
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>>340549013
oooooooooooook makes some sense then. a wink to an in-group I'm not part of. thanks anyways
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>>340548939
>Lone Wanderer
doing busy work for other people

>The Courier
having kids and dealing with the Mojave as the king/queen
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>>340548930
Read All Roads if you care about that stuff. tl;dr he was a retarded Khan with a flamethrower who was part of Benny's khan entourage but died before reaching Goodsprings. Those charred bodies in the camp below his grave were his doing iirc.
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>>340548939
the lone wanderer is living with Moira and they started a Jet business. the Courier is dead, killed by a band of Centurion Remnants.
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>>340549106
The other Khans are the ones you have to look for in They went that a way.
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>>340549218
Did you actually read All Roads? Chance is a guy with a knife, a survivor of Bitter Springs who came out of it so shell shocked he refused to ever speak. They found a camp (Tribal Camp, up the road from his grave) being burned down by Fiends and he bugged out on being reminded of Bitter Springs so he jumped in and started stabbing people.

Then Benny convinced him to overdose on Psycho
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>>340548939
Lone Wanderer is a scientist or whatever.

Courier is snorting mentats off a hooker's ass.
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>>340548939
He is the supreme science god emperor of the West after conquering it with the Cloud and his Securitrons.
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>>340548861
Some people get the Thorn map marker and walk by completely oblivious to the sign pointing at the sewer grate
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>>340549503
>Then Benny convinced him to overdose on Psycho

More like gave him a choice to take them or resist the temptation and be a stronger man.

We all know what Chance chose in the end.
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At which level should I play the DLC? Jsawyer hardcore mode
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>>340546825

The BoS you see in 3 isn't what the Brotherhood is supposed to be.
Those 'exiles' are the real deal and what they're supposed to be.
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>>340549503
Whoops yeah I fucked that up. All I really cared for in AR was Benny getting characterization that didn't make him seem like a huge retard.
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>>340549734
It was closer to "Either let go of Bitter Springs or just kill yourself, a life lived in the past ain't no life to live at all"

The same "point" he made when the had the Singer assassinated
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the important question is: for those of us who didn't kill Benny- what is Benny doing now?
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>>340549521
Never has a post been more accurate. The Courier was a fucking animal.
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>>340549325
>killed by a band of Centurion Remnants.
>fast travel to El Dorado gas stop
>ALWAYS ambushed by Legion dogs
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>>340549935
In the NV uncut mod he meets you at the 188. I've never actually done the event though so I don't know what he does.
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>>340535384
Cause they would all die of opioid Induced constipation before then
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>>340550067
Tries to kill you. Again.
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What are some godtier mod's for new vegas? I'm pretty late to the party?
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Most annoying/difficult area in NV?

For me it was Vault 34
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>>340547593

best stealth sniper coming through by simple virtue of the fact that it is the most powerful silent sniper in the base game
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>>340550164
Someguy2000 is a solid creator
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>>340550067
now I'm curious.
all I wanted was a fair showdown. I wanted to kill him but I couldn't do it when he was tied up like a dog and my unarmed was too shit to do it in the arena
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>>340539030
I bet you main Reaper in OW
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>>340550164
WMX
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>>340550164
enboost and texture mods
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>>340549982
>Every NCR character I have always fights a band of faggots on the way to New Vegas
>Around the REPCONN Headquarters and Grub n' Gulp Rest Stop
Well at least it generates some spending money for the Strip
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>>340539030
Did you kill Rex too?
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>>340550195
the deathclaw excavation place is pretty hard if you are low level and have no guns
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>>340539456
okay
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>>340549982
poor little Lupe, every time
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>>340535384
at least you get lots of options and paths. been playing most modern rugs and they're basically just linear action games with absolute shit dialogue choices. tw3 has been the most disappointing ''''''rpg'''''' I've ever played. Haven't gotten to fo4 yet but I'm sure that would be worse.
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>>340550462
I would say literally impossible
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>doing the monorail quest
>already know who the spy is from the legion
>no way to just tell the colonel
>have to play stupid
man, that pissed me off, especially because the game is pretty good about that stuff most of the time
also
>beyond the beef
>mortimer fucking tells me he is a cannibal
>cant tell marjorie about it
>cant tell if its bugged or just not an option in the game
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>>340550202
huehue
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>>340550676
>guys I helped the Legion I totally know who your traitor is
>guys you gotta believe me I'm on your side now
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which brain lads?
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>>340550202
>8 5.56mm rounds
Your raifu is shit
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>>340550827
Especially since the traitor has been with the NCR years before they even met the Legion
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How come the Legion keeps throwing hit squads at you over and over again even though none of them ever come back? If I lost 20 something troops in a week trying to kill one guy I would probably try something different.
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>>340550676

I feel like those kind of oversights are a little but inevitable when a studio is given only 100 workdays to make a game.
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>>340550941
Lupa's if you don't want him to get torn to bits when you start exploring deathclaw country.
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Fuck it, I'll post what I got of All Roads for y'all interested. Ain't the full thing because I got it off another anon but I think most is there.
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>>340551028
just takes one to succeed and it's not like the Legion is suffering for lack of troops
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>>340550703
>>340550950

Shittalk all you like, she's taken down the entire Mojave with me.
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>>340551028
the NCR does it too, theirs are even harder to deal with because they have super stimpaks.
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>>340550941
the one you get from old lady gibson
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