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So AA6 came out in Japan, and people are ripping the music.
What do you think?
https://www.youtube.com/user/AloraCinemaGameRoom/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2yapHMwz4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxSy85htZVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIlXqXjAFSw
There are are various confirmed spoilers for the first few cases already floating around, so anyone trying to avoid that stuff should stay away from these threads I guess
Nayuta's theme is nice. The remix forAthena's theme is cool too.
>>340528048
DESIGNATED
>>340528279
I've seen some spoilers, but also a whole bunch of impossible bullshit. It's not like people spoiling that Ray is the mastermind, which was real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwerK5ufGTM
>athena is metal now
Any info about cases 4 and 5?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRoGMtsBcsk
It's the sweet synths from AJ's theme, really nice
>>340528785
Turnabout Foreigner
Turnabout Magic Show
Turnabout Ritual
Turnabout Music Hall
Turnabout Revolution
Turnabout Across Time (DLC)
nothing much beyond that
>>340528785
The only thing I heard about Case 4 is that it'sjust one big courtroom segment with no investigation segments
>>340528926
So, like 3-4? Would kind of make sense, considering they have six cases.
>>340528279
This greatly effects the level of fucks I give about the game
We know that Maya's locked up for Case 3 and that Ema is in Kurainistan helping him out - is Ema Phoenix's actual assistant for that case or is she just a side character
That turnabout sisters theme man.
this soundtrack is so fucking funky, what the hell
i don't know why it is like this, but i like it
reminds me of alexander brandon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljF1kmH60Yg
>>340529146
She's likely the detective, she travels with Nayuta. She's in the second case too.
>>340529336
yeah I know she's in 2 and that she travels with Nayuta into 3
it's just that Maya is apparantly locked up again for that case so Phoenix still has his assistant spot open
>>340529452
No idea, really. There's the shota with the dog too, I don't know if he has an assistant role.
>>340530112
>that drawing of "papa" by Trucy
shit nigga that's cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr5Y6nkZ5nc
>they used Larry's T&T theme
Why? Why are they so keen on the T&T music? It's not that great, AA1's is much more iconic and generally better.
>>340530112
http://doronoji.tumblr.com/post/145650197823/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa%E3%81%82%E3%81%82-%E3%81%82%E3%81%82%E3%81%82%E3%81%82-%E3%81%82-%E3%81%82%E3%81%82%E3%81%82-%E3%81%82%E3%81%82%E3%81%82%E3%81%82%E3%81%82-%E3%81%82%E3%81%82-%E3%81%82%E3%81%82%E3%81%82%E3%81%82%E3%81%82%E3%81%82%E3%81%82
YOU FUCKS MADE TRUCY CRY
I'm not really feeling the ost this time around. I can't really put my finger on it, it might have to do with the cheapish synthy instruments.
is pursuit garbage or is it just me
time to die athena
you took my spot for too long
endgame spoiler
look who it is
>>340531569
ACTUAL SPOILERS HERE FAGS
The new music is nice I suppose.
>>340531386
It's not just you. It has nowhere near enough energy. If Nick is throwing a judicial hail mary then it should definitely have a theme that isn't so flat.
>>340531386
It's pretty subdued and liadback
which I don't mind except it doesn't fit the actual events/themes of the game all that well, Phoenix is literally destroying another country's legal system in this one
>>340531569
Please, explain.
>>340532518
Apollo has no personality so once again they're pulling out another childhood friend from their ass to keep the plot interesting.
At least thats what that picture says to me.
>>340531569
So the absolutely ridiculous sounding backstory spoiler was true? What the hell.
>>340528578
>Based Athena is playable
Feels good man.
>>340532941
Yes.
>>340531589
OH BOY
is there an english cia file for it out?
>>340533084
do they seriously want to acknowledge the shitheap that was apollo justice?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr5Y6nkZ5nc
>>340533250
they must really be desperate for that fanservice
>>340533387
like really scraping the bottom of that barrel
>>340531589
Thanks doc.
>>340528578
Holy shit, why does this remind me of the very first Pokemon opening song?
>>340533183
Is it September?
>>340528048
so i just started apollo justice, is it normal to feel like i skipped a game that doesn't exist? i played the first three but in this game they keep acting like i should know who all these characters are and what happened in the seven years prior
also who the fuck wrote phoenix's dialogue in this game? did they not play the first 3??
>>340534080
AJ was the first actually new AA story (as far as Japan is concerned) in 7 years, so they decided to do a time skip I guess
They do explain what the hell happened to Phoenix. How he is in that game is divisive to say the least.
>>340531569
WHAT
WHAT
BUT HOW EVEN
WHO THE FUCK
>>340534080
You just have to keep playing. The game does have explanations for everything, but they're fucking awful.
>>340532941
>Based Athena is playable
Is this true? Don't toy with me man.
>>340534080
Phoenix has been through some shit. For about 7 years.
I DONT FUCKING CARE ABOUT THIS SHIT POST THE NEW OBJECTION/PURSUIT THEMESthey ARE new, right?
>>340534198
>>340534293
>>340534378
truthfully i'm just pushing through AJ so i can get to the edgeworth games, which i understand are a lot more fun and more like the first 3
>>340534319
Look at the comments, my man.
>>340534080
I'm in the middle of playing Apollo Justice, too. I think the point of the janky character introductions is to put you in Apollo's shoes, sans his past with Gavin.
As for Phoenix? 7 years have passed. They wanted to make him a more mature, cynical character to coincide with how crappy the world's gotten. Apparently, the lead developer originally didn't want hobo phoenix to be Phoenix at all before Capcom said that he needed to be in the game. I sort of wish he -was- a different character because hobo phoenix is pretty awesome. Hope you don't mind spoilers because he reverts into the Phoenix you know and love for the most part in Dual Destinies. If hobo Phoenix was some random, cynical attorney, at least he could be doing stuff off-screen and still exist instead of Phoenix's character doing a complete 180.
Also, for some reason Capcom tries to shy away from AJ's existence to the point where most (but not all) of the plot points don't come up in AA5.
>>340531569
YOU FUCKING WHAT
>>340534319
why are you people excited? she was another in a series of bubbly girls with a stupid tragic past like maya,magic girl and thief girl
the only thing interessing about her was the new gameplay gimmick she broughtare there new gameplay gimmick in this game?
>>340534592
Well, T&T was the original creator's ending to the series, he felt Phoenix had been completely explored as a character and that the overall concept had been done as well as it could (hence no new gimmicks in T&T). But the series was still popular so they made Apollo.
>>340530430
Because the composer since AA5 has been Iwadare, who had composed T&T previously. It's obvious that he'd be more comfortable remixing his own themes.
>>340534775
Because she's actually useful and can pull his weight even if she isn't Apollo or Phoenix tier?
>>340531569
Does it meanLamiroiris Nayuta's mother?
This is the best Turnabout Sisters theme IMO.
We're getting a US release, right?
>>340534592
It's just yet another case of Capcom management fucking a series up.
The devs wanted to do something fresh and move on but Capcom said no and made them force Phoenix shit in which of course led to a janky uneven story.
And then surprise surprise people didn't like AA4 because of that unevenness so Capcom management used it to say they were right and that the devs need to double down on forced Phoenix plotlines.
Honestly it's only a matter of time before we get Ace attorney: DMC edition with some rebooted fresh and edgy Phoenix retreading the same ground we've already seen but slightly different and then it'll bomb and AA will join the shelves with Megaman.
>>340534775
>are there new gameplay gimmick in this game?
The spirit mirror.
>still can't listen to turnabout sisters without crying like a little bitch
>this version is actually kind of happy
I'm so glad I got into this series recently
>>340534534
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
>>340535320
what could be edgier than "The miracle never happen" ending?
>>340534872
As satisfying as T&T's ending was, I'm glad Apollo Justice exists. It's proved to be very fun so far. My only real complaints so far are that Trucy seems to be Maya with a new gimmick and Klavier is on your side too much from the get-go. Also, I wonder if the original creator approved of the Edgeworth games.
>>340534508
The Edgeworth spinoffs are very experimental (by AA standards), with the 2nd one just building on what the 1st one established
>>340534592
>the lead developer originally didn't want hobo phoenix to be Phoenix at all before Capcom said that he needed to be in the game
Hobo Nick early on in development was originally an brand new character, yeah.
Characterization-wise I was fine with Hobo Nick personally. His internal monologues always seemed sorta cynical and the game explains that he's been through some shit over the years + this was the first time we were seeing him through another character's eyes. It was really only the sloppy story around how he ended up like that which pissed me off. As a concept and character I enjoyed his parts of the game a lot.
>>340535320
It's not as new a thing as you're implying it is. AA1 wasn't developed with sequels in mind at all, AA2 only happened to cater to what Capcom thought the fans wanted. Franziska wasn't planned to exist, they originally only created her because they wanted someone other than Edgeworth to get wrecked by Phoenix in court.
>>340534198
>in 7 years
Just three, AA3 was 2004 while AA4 2007. It's AA5 that came after almost seven years (2013).
So it's either
>Wright is so good that even the gods can't stand against him in the court of law
or
>the spirit thing was absolute bullshit the whole timeI bet it's just some sort of display screen underneath a pool of water
>>340531569
They did it, the absolute madmen. What about Lamiroir and Trucy and Apollo's knowledge of their relation to one another?
>>340535792
The pond has nothing to do with god. You're seeing the vision of the person. What the person thinks they saw. Human error is always there, even during their dying moments.
The judge/jury are doing snap judgements, even though there are plenty of holes and "guesses" with what they saw.
>>340535792
Here's how the spirit mirror mechanic works.It shows the victim's final moments, but not just what they saw, but what they also heard, smelled, touched and tasted (all five senses). Leifa interprets the vision in her own way, but she's incompetent and makes mistakes. This is where Phoenix comes in: he compares Leifa's interpretation to the actual vision and finds inconsistencies. Basically, it's comparing testimonies from two different people.
Favorite characters to lay as?
Edgeworth>Apollo>Nick>>>Athena
>Objection Theme for Phoenix will always be the AA3 one
>Objection Theme for Apollo will always be the AA4 one
>Athena will probably be reusing her AA5 one
Come on. AA1 - 3 changed up all the themes each game. Yeah, the circumstances are different now with multiple protagonists so they want to make sure each one has a different identifiable theme for them to stand out, but it's getting old. Edgeworth series would probably keep reusing remixes of Great Revival but that's a spinoff series anyway.
>>340536094
>she's incomptentSo why the fuck are they using her. Do they just not want to admit she's shit or something?
>>340535668
Didn't you see him through Maya's eyes in T&T?
>>340536197They dont know she's really incompetent because she at least makes sense to the people.
>>340536118
Edgeworth = Nick > ApolloI don't know who Athena is
>>340536118
Edgeworth > Athena > Phoenix > Apollo
>>340536209
Er, Mia.
>>340534775
>she was another in a series of bubbly girls with a stupid tragic past like maya,magic girl and thief girl
Except, she's a main character who has an attorney badge and can defend. Even as an assistant she's way more useful because of the Mood Matrix. All the other bubble girls are useless to the point of 'why the hell do I even bring you to the courtroom?'
![[deathly silence].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ib7QfVK.jpg "[deathly silence].jpg")
>>340536258So the country is full of idiots then?
>>340536094
>>340536197
>>340536258
>Smug incompetent petite girl
This shit turns me on so much.
>>340536340Well in most AA games people believe what they hear even though there are errors in the prosecution or testimony. Look at every AA game it happens all the time.
>>340536287
leave now, for your own sake
Just finished Justice for All.
I didn't like it. It only had 4 cases compared to AA1's five, and only the last one was up to the standards that AA1 set.
The objection music was a huge step down as well. Trials and Tribulation is better right?
>>340536197
Its a fucking religion thats based around this dead people stuff. Why do you think they banned defense attorney's? The minute you show the masses some magical bullshit, you're like god to them. Call them a fraud, and people are lining up to beat your ass.
Mind you, thats happened to Maya's mom when they called her a fraud for being wrong.
I prefer the Great Ace Attorney's OST so far.
>>340536118
Autistic logic detective Edgeworth is the best
Athena honestly is my 2nd favorite to play as, despite some issues I have with her as a character. She feels really fucking distinct compared to everyone else
Then Phoenix, it's sorta cliche but I just like the "goofy/laidback-ish guy who gets fucking serious when it counts" type of characters. Felt that they overdid the goofyness a bit with him in DD though
Then Apollo who I'm still not really feeling, I do think that he has the potential to be really cool though. Also Percieve is probably my personal least favorite of the character gimmicks mechanically.
>>340536478
Investigations 2 > Trials and Tribulations > Dual Destinies > Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney > Investigations 1 > Phoenix Wright vs Professor Layton > Dai Gyakuten Saiban > Justice for All > Apollo Justice
So yeah, it's one of the worst.
>>340536478
T&T is overall better than JFA. JFA's last case > T&T's last case though.
>>340536478
Well originally the first game had four cases as well they only added a fifth for the DS which is why it played so differently.
>>340536504
>Why do you think they banned defense attorney's?
They didn't, that gets explained.Failing to defend your client has you suffer the same sentence that they do. Over the years Defense Attorneys just sorta died out on their own due to this clause.
>>340536209
phoenix's character changes almost as drastically between his time dating dahlia and becoming a lawyer as it did in AJ when he went full hobo
how many returning character are excluding all the girls like maya and ema and trucy??i know there is larry butz and there was a pic of the gramarye and...?
Are there any references to pic related's game?
>>340536740
Edgeworth and Klavier, but both are DLC only. Blackquill appears in the main story.
>>340536740All i remember is Lotta and Wendy
>>340536990
>Lotta
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>>340536990
>Lotta
I hope we get more porn this time
>>340530521
>this kind of computer
>2026
I know the Wright Anything Agency isn't filthy rich, but come on.
>yfw no matter what girls are in this we'll just get more yaoishit and Maya
>Even the trap won't get anything
>>340536510
It's so dancey, isn't it?
>>340537221
Maybe it just looks old
Wright could prefer the old look better or something, who knows
Am I the only one who dislikes the new prosecutor? I love how they took Phoenix out of the country because apparently Japanifornia's court can't challenge him anymore yet the same Prosecutor shows up in both countries. Wish we could get more Blackquill or Edgeworth. Or a game mostly focusing on Apollo and Athena while Phoenix is away.
>>340537283
Well it's not really their fault that AA men are some of the best looking in videogames
>>340536478
I really disliked it too, it's generally considered the weakest of the trilogy by far. However, the final case is considered one of the best cases, but it's not enough to redeem the whole game.
>>340537608
PW has a really bloated canon and cast now, I'm pretty sure most people like Edgeworth best but he is too important to be an antagonist who is fated to lose repeatedly over the course of the game, so he'll get his usual fanservice case and that'll be it.
>>340532941
>barely any porn
>Based
>>340536191
Capcom here
Sorry, but market research has shown that players prefer the original themes over and over again. We didn't actually make any new music to compare against but just trust us okay, originality is bad.
Just look at how lame and incompetent all the newer characters are compared to Phoenix, who's is so amazingly cool and perfect.
>>340538603
>Just look at how lame and incompetent all the newer characters are compared to Phoenix, who's is so amazingly cool and perfect.
I like you.
>>340536572
I feel like I disliked Athena's gimmick the most, mood matrix a shit.
Edgeworth and Apollo had the best gimmicks, and I just like how Edgy seems more compotent and relies on less asspulls to get the job done. (I said less, not none at all)
>>340537283
>the trap
Who? Robin?
>>340537125
don't you mean a lotta more porn?
EH?
EH?
>>340539142
The only problem I had with Mood Matrix was how often they had you use it, a lot of the time it didn't even feel necessary. Other than that, it was pretty much just another take on the cross-examination mechanic and there was a nice amount of room to experiment with it (not just the presence/absence of emotions but how weak/strong they were too)
Didn't like Percieve because it's just slow as hell and it brings the least enjoyable aspect of the game ("pixel hunting", for the lack of a better phrase) into the courtroom segments.
Plot-wise they're both over-the-top wacky superpower nonsense you're bringing into the courtroom that the other characters can't do so that aspect of it doesn't really bother me personally.
Nayuta's not gonna be the villain right? I've had enough of pretty boys I crush on before playing/reading the material turning out to be villains for one lifetime.fuck Griffith
>>340539142
Addendum- my REAL favorite courtroom mechanic was the multi-witness mechanic from the PL crossover. Of course in that game the trials made little to no sense except for the 1st one which didn't involve FUCKING MAGIC
>>340539701
>because it's just slow as hell and it brings the least enjoyable aspect of the game ("pixel hunting"
You're not wrong, but I feel like finding the correct line he says it in and then searching felt more detective-y, finding the correct line to press. Than again the game does that all the time.
