>forced to lose 50% of your matches
Who would ever think that this is a good system?
>>340514994
Losing 50% of the time isn't a bad thing - a good matchmaker will put equally skills teams against each other. What is bad is how the matchmaker puts literal retards on your team to force you to lose half the time. People that don't counter-pick, windowmakers that can't snipe for shit, reinhards that charge into bastions from the other side of the map and die half way there, etc. Most of the time you lose it's because you have at least one of these retards on your team.
>dominate a few games in a row
>get kicked out because "not enough players"
>placed with a bunch of retards vs a pre made/lvl 100's
>every fucking time
Le pure coincidence
If you play better it wouldn't matter.
>>340515631
Shut the FUCK UP
currently sitting at a 57.7% winrate. how long do i have to live /v/?
Am I the only one that thinks Tracer is too stronk.
Her mobility is unrivaled. A good Tracer is such a pain in the ass to get off your fucking back.
>>340515973
That's the point
>>340514994
It probably made sense from their perspective when making the MMR algorithm but Blizzard badly underestimated how huge a detriment one bad player is to everyone else's performance.
Right now it sees a team of 5 with a high MMR vs a team of 6 with an average MMR and places a low MMR teammate on the one side to try to "even it out" and it ends up overcompensating
>can't handle losing
You betas are the worst, laughably retarded.
>>340515973
You pretty much described every glass cannon character.
>>340514994
Do you understand how math works?
On average everyone loses 50% of their matches
>>340515973
Nah, she's alright I think
McCree and Torbjorn's stupid sentry bullshit is OP
>>340514994
>falling for the Blizzard meme
>>340514994
>forced to lose
>change to winston
>single handedly change the tide
>Defy the fate
do you even choosen one?
>>340516592
>anime image
Yeah not reading shit
>>340515897
54% here. A slightly above 50% rate means you improve with every game and MMR is lagging behind in matching you against harder opponents.
That being said, all the games I play today were garbage.
>need a healer, guy picks Zenyatta, proceeds to spend 75% of the game dead and waiting for respawn
>defending A at King's Row, someone picks Winston, proceeds to be utterly useless because attackers have no back-row to harass as they are literally right in front of their spawn
>attacking Hollywood, Soldier 76 activates his ult and runs in front of my shield, promptly gets sniped
>there are people on /v/ who take overwatch as serious competition
It's as casual as shooters get you fools. Enjoy it for what it is.
>>340516510
Torbjörn's turrets are a joke. They are only useful if your team is stuffed with retards who don't focus them or kill them with splash damage.
I want to bite into my keyboard every time I stand there as Reinhardt with my shield up, soaking shot after shot from a turret right in front of us and my brain-dead teammates take pot-shots at the enemy Roadhog in the distance.
>>340514994
>balance is bad
ranked will be out soon, maybe we will get rid off some of these crybabies
I played the beta, I sort of enjoyed it. I got a little bored of the repetition of it all, and most other players weren't exactly synergizing well as a team.
Just moved apartment, and I'm low on cash. Is it even worth it to buy this game?
>Numbani
>defend
>everyone playing ranged (bastion, torb, widow, mercy)
>also one retarded genji
>me playing roadhog
>attack team manages to put the payload just a few meter away from the point
>actually manage to hold them off and bring the timer from 7 minutes to overtime
>return the payload almost to the previous checkpoint
>die
>no one bothers on getting to the payload because they're too busy trying to kill from distance
>lose while respawning
I fucking hate these people
>>340516708
same here
>>340517057
>people who abandon the payload
STAY ON THE FUCKING PAYLOAD!
FIGHT ON THE PAYLOAD!
TAKE COVER BEHIND THE PAYLOAD!
RUN AROUND THE PAYLOAD TO JUKE SHORT-RANGE ENEMIES!
CROUCH BEHIND THE PAYLOAD TO EVADE SNIPERS!
JUST STAY ON THE FUCKING PAYLOAD FOR FUCK'S SAKE!
>close to over-time, defending
>people run away from the payload right outside our spawn because they're afraid they might die
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
>>340515631
Not really, the matchmaking is made in a way in which you'll get an absolute shit-tier team if you win a lot . The only way to cheat it is going full premade with friends.
>>340517419
Every
fucking
time
Shit's already on overtime and these fuckers can't even try to reset the timer. Or even worse, people who keep chasing enemies instead of staying on the point
>>340515897
Just about everyone is somewhere between 50 and 60%
>>340517861
>Or even worse, people who keep chasing enemies instead of staying on the point
I think this is due to the play of the game feature. Everyone wants to be a fucking hero.
>>340514994
>play a "competetive" game
>get matched against people on your skilllevel
>complain about having to play against people that are on your skilllevel
?
>>340515485
works as intended :^^^^^^^^)
>>340515897
>tfw dropped from 56% in 2 days to 54% after the stealth patches
>join match
>as soon as you join
>YOU LOSE
>counts as a loss on your account
>Blizzard said they did this to be fair
enjoy le lobby based matchmaking meme
why did server browsers have to die out
win % doesnt even matter. going 30+ and 0 with widowmaker is the only measure of skill.
>>340518195
This desu senpai
>>340516791
>enjoy losing
retard.
>>340515897
try going over 60% champ
>>340518145
This happened to me three times in a row in one night
>Join game
>"Defeat" before I can pick my character
>reinstance
3 times in a row
>>340517959
I honestly expect Blizzard to remove the POTG on ranked matches, this shit rewards solo plays instead of team cooperation
>>340517616
How do people know this? Are you guys pulling it out your asses?
>>340516791
>It's as casual as shooters get you fools. Enjoy it for what it is.
You are arguably the worst kind of player. That one faggot who scoffs at competition and decrying casual fun as being a paragon of virtue or some shit. Listen pal, if you buy a video-game with your own money, and if it has a vs. multiplayer of any kind, then why the fuck would you not want to win?
Are you implying that you voluntarily lose? Or that you don't much care to get better? If it's the latter, then you're the one who is missing out. By taking the learning curves seriously, you actually get a fuller experience of the game and it's mechanics.
But you, faggot, any game you purchase will be wasted on you. If you're a casual fuck then at least adopt a casual approach to the discussion, that is to say, if you're so 'laaaiiidbaack' then why did you take the fucking time to assert your retarded opinion?
>>340518142
>tfw was steady 53% but already dropped to 51% in three days
>>340514994
Just like hearthstone
>>340518479
You would know if you played the game.
>>340518623
You sound like an autistic faggot.
>play 100 games as Lucio
>69% win rate
>tfw been at 58-61% forever
Bow before your god
>>340518818
normie leave
>>340516510
Torbjorn is not only garbage but his turret is the worst part about him. Not enough crowd control and no knockback. He's far more effective just using his pistol and throwing out armor.
>>340514994
>Tfw you're on the winning end of the shitty matchmaking
Had a game on Dorado defend the other day where the other team literally didn't get 5ft out of their spawn room. I have no doubt the matchmaking bundled a load of mouthbreathers together though.
>>340518859
>thinks he is hot shit for 58-61% when playing in full stacks
wew
>>340514994
>le forced 50 meme :D
Does this mean all of you faggots are moving to Overwatch and fucking off my HotS? I sure hope so
>>340514994
>when your housemate strts up his Microsoft Windows 10 network hog machine with all NSA approved spyware enabled and lets it idlle on a datamining clickbait site with 32 flash ads and you have 1500ms ping for matches but he won't let you teach him how to not fuck your internet up so you remote into his Alienware laptop and ruin everything you can touch and he thinks it's a porn virus that his Norton Antivirus Security System missed
>>340514994
When I play with friends we almost always win. When I solo Que I lose every single game every time.
So I just only play with my friends. It's gotten to the point where every single game is a RL 6v6 game and it's always intense and fun.
Wish I could play someone other than Lucio, but our team is pretty tight.
>>340517419
The amount of times I've spider-man zipped to the payload as Widow to force overtime and proceed to juke around until the cavalry arrives is insane. And then I die, and somehow, we lose, because the rejects are shooting from afar.
>>340518986
>not popping up a lvl1 turret so that you can distract enemies for it and it can distract enemies for you
gee was TF2 too complicated for you so you chose Overwatch?
>>340518479
Not the same anon, but I think it's not entirely true but also not entirely false.
Matchmaking will usually try to balance the teams moving good players between them. Even if you keep a good rate of wins, the matchmaking will put you into a team that's losing because 1- someone quit the game, 2- the matchmaking thinks you can make a difference. Matches that haven't started yet are more or less like that, if you win at least two times with the exact same team, there's a chance the matchmaking will kick you or put you into another team.
It's funny how the game actually rewards you for being bad. Though Blizzard will never confirm any of this, just like they won't confirm there is a pity timer for legendaries.
nice meme you got there senpai, maybe you should improve your skills so you don't lose so much.
;)
All online games need completely random matchmaking. Trying to balance the skill levels of teams is cancer.
>>340519029
I was on the receiving end of a similar game, same map. I was forced to flank as Widow and take out a Lucio, and then 3 teammates railed me at that festival circle. Assumed that distraction would let them push. Nope. Genji was still lobbing shurikens that kept people at the spawn. Ridiculous.
>>340519169
if its true you're doing gods work
I hate the inept who are above getting help
>>340518337
Can't they just come up with a mechanic that prevents you from getting a win/lose if you havn't played more than 1 minute?
>>340519209
TF2 sentry shits all over Torbjorns.
>15 seconds left
>"C'mon guys, we can do this!"
>Do the best play of the game, everyone gets into the point, starts conquering
>Entire enemy team ults
>DEFEAT
Every time. What's the point of ults, even?
>>340519719
They are cool and flashy :^)
>>340516008
>>340516374
Yeah believe it or not I understand her concept. I just think that she is stronger than she should be, her teleports have such an insignificant cooldown that she can just spam them, it's fucking ridiculous.
>>340516791
Go back to TF2 and spycrab/friendly heavy/conga.
>>340519719
Exactly as you just described. Turn the tide.
HOW DO THEY DO IT?
That's literally every MP game that wants to be retarded e-sport nowadays. This and terrible netcode in shooters are two sole reasons why I slowly but surely move towards sp games. Can't stand this shit anymore, WoW ruined me and turned me into this online interactions seeking whore.
>>340519719
Shame on your for not having a Mercy or Zenyatta on your team
>>340519921
6-man premades, and given Megaton's hours to games played, he DC's before losing.
>>340516592
this
people saw anime tiddies and waifus. now they see what the rest of us saw. blizzard makesshit games
>>340519921
Premade groups
>>340519921
if you exit out of the game before a certain point when you lose it won't count towards your profile
>>340519921
Forced 50% loss is only a thing if you solo queue
>>340519921
Entirely done with pre-made groups, I'd imagine.
I have sat around 60% for a good while, now. I only typically party up with one friend, too.
It's not that I don't believe in the forced 50 thing. I'm just saying that regardless of matchups if you play hard enough you can usually beat teams you're 'supposed to lose against.'
>>340515973
Tracer is retarded in koth. First of all she's really good at harassing the backlines but you can also resume the overtime for an eternity by just jumping in and out of the area. Also, if you don't have a lucio in koth you just autolose, especially if the enemy has one. I just disconnect in the loading screen every time I get a koth map.
I hope blizz will let players choose what map and game modes they want to play, that would save everyone's time. It's kind of good to have random maps in the beginning so you get to know them all but in a few weeks you'll have your favorites and dislikes.
>>340520007
does it not count if you DC?
>>340514994
>First week I had 90% win rate
>Now it's 20% because of deep shitter teammates
I'm always MVP/Lucio too.
>>340520114
>>340519921
this but thats how its always been for competitive games
people that make teams beat pubs.
ranking is designed for pubs.
>>340520280
Learn to play better then.
>>340520294
nope only in shit tier system normally teams are forced to play against teams here you play against teams vs randoms.
>>340515973
I main Tracer on KotH maps and go out of my way to 1v1 Roadhogs, you can see them getting physically upset when I'm right in their face and they can't land a single shot on me
And they said the Competitive matchmaking will be the same as Quick Match
No Competitive for me
>>340514994
>playing mercy
>juking and healing
>damage boosting ults
>even fucking reviving my whole team
>other team somehow still wins when they dont even have a support
i don't even have words for some of these matches also
>i get focused on sight never any backup
>enemy mercy free to roam around as she pleases
ITS FUCKING TRUE!!!!!!!!!
>>340520371
And here's the triggered /pol/tard to shit up another thread about video games
>>340520007
>>340520037
>>340520046
>>340520070
>>340520114
>>340520294
I only play with 3-6 people and my win rate is only 57% do i just need to git gud.
>>340520235
Oh hey. I'm at 63% now!
>>340520681
Should probably kick the slackers from your team.
>>340520673
>stop talking about video games on /v/ because I'm an absolute manchild who can't stand people liking games that I don't
>about 220 games played
>only play with my friends, in a group of 3 to 6 depending on who's online
>my WR: 47.5%
>their WRs: 36%, 39%, 48%, 49%, 49%
why can't we win /v/?
>>340520746
proof
>>340514994
>playing autowatch
>>340520932
Sure.
>>340514994
git gud
>>340516791
Man if overwatch is casual to you, then I can't imagine how casual other games are. Is counter strike like babies ducking their thumbs?
>>340521243
>150k
So you've played like 20 games?
>>340521350
i'll be ducking your mom tonight ditch
>>340520904
>36%, 39%
That might be the reason
>>340517048
If you never liked any multiplayer game ever because you got bored of doing the same maps over and over, then this game isn't for you.
Probably today or tomorrow i'll go 50% or lower.. i mean when you lose games the ratio will only decrease, there's no way to improve it.
>>340521350
If he's a reflex or surf player probably
>>340521356
106. It's just something the gf and I do after we get off work to mellow out. I'm not a huge fan of the game. It's fun but I hate a lot of things in it.
Fucking her, cooking, or playing Warhammer is more fun to me if I have the free time. lol
>>340516439
>On average
>Everyone
That's not how those words work.
Just git gid bro
Overwatch is not a team based game in the slightest, a truly SKILLED gaymurr such as myself can always win a 1v6 :^)
>>340521350
>overwatch isn't casual
Let's not kid ourselves,Blizzard.
>>340519719
Ult-dumps are just stupid as shit in pubs cause they work 80% of the time unless your Mercy/Lucio/Zenyatta have their's up to counter some of the damage.
yesterday i logged in a server and my team had 3 bastions and there was like 1 minute to lose, this happened 4 times in a row yesterday, all servers i logged in losing teams in the end of the match
>>340520843
There are shitloads of threads already, you can pick one instead of starting another, retard.
>>340521882
It isnt as if people don't pull 1v4 s in other fps games.
>>340515418
>windowmakers
Daily reminder that if you're sub 70%, you shouldn't even be playing the game.
>>340522331
>26 games
>>340521914
Any game is casual if you think hard enough about it, it's just some arbitrary reasoning used to shitpost about games when you have no actual argument. Also you're out of your mind if you think in any universe CS is more casual than OW, or casual period.
>>340522378
Shouldn't that mean that he should be worse than you people who have 500+ games?
>game launches
>play a ton
>have something like a 75% win rate over 200 matches
>now it's just loss after loss as my rate steadily climbs down to 50
Thanks Blizz
>>340522331
>1.55 K/D
>26 games
>>340522378
It was at 70% 6 games ago. It just keeps going up.
>>340522331
Reminder that if you're sub 200 games you shouldn't be posting your w/l ratio
>>340522239
>encouraging generals
Just deal with it. The fad will be over in a few months and youll have a new flavour getting 8 threads at once. A fucking step up from undertale threads at least.
>>340522239
>so upset about people discussing video games he's actively participating in the threads just to cry
Holy fucking autism
I've played 180 matches and won 103 of them,
>>340518054
>>340519201
Dumb frogposters
>>340522479
>implying K/D matters on Rein
>implying K/D matters at all
>>>/widowmaker/
>>340514994
>he's unable to carry his team by himself
you were never as good as you thought you were.
git gud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqG4CHnQDQg
>>340518479
If you look at the highest winrates on masteroverwatch, a third-party player statistics website, you can see several of the top players and recognize them from streams. Typically in these streams you can tell it's the same parties with a few different people, and the font color of player tags for those in your party are green, as represented in the streams.
>>340522510
The real issue with Undertale was the anti-Undertale shitposting brigade, they found something on tumblr to get triggered about, came back here and made 50 threads shitposting about the game every hour
>>340522684
I'm just guessing you die quite a lot for a Reinhardt.
Also
>26 games
>>340517616
>The only way to cheat it is going full premade with friends.
But the system then just pits you against another premade. Even then it can still be one-sided if the enemy premade's got a higher MMR.
>it's a you lost 5 matches in a row so now we give you a complete onesided stomp in return episode
I feel dirty
>>340514994
>>340515973
Is it just me or are overwatch babies experiencing shit like this for the first time when its been prevalent in tf2/csgo/dota for years?
Is this your first competitive game or something you stupid fucks?
>>340522510
I don't think there is anything wrong with 3-4 threads at once for the flavour of the month, far from it. But when you see 10+ threads up every single day, some with barely 20 or 30 replies, it kind of gets old.
Use the catalog and find threads already filled with posters instead of looking for easy (You)'s.
>>340522516
Is kind of annoying, but I see nothing wrong with what I'm saying.
>>340515973
She definately needs some tweaks. Does way too much damage at range. She should have to get real close to do any significant damage, making her more vulnerable as well, but as it is she can stay reasonably safe at medium range and still pump out tremendous damage.
>51.2% winrate total
>70.4% winrate with Zen
>>340522994
They're probably underage or just autistic.
>>340516510
Is it console players saying this? I can understand it being hard to shoot at with a joystick, but on PC it's actually really easy to take them down.
>>340523246
Torbjorn's turrets are really annoying. I don't have my rig since I'm working abroad but I think I'll switch to PC when I come back. I like shooters on console but the fact you can't iron sight on most of the characters feels really different. It seems more enjoyable with a mouse. The game is still damn addictive though
>have 80%+ with heroes I dont feel particularly good with
>have less than 25% winrate with heroes I feel confident with
What the fuck happened?
>>340522550
>koth in Ilios
>playing mercy while healing roadhog
>we caputre the point
>roadhog decides to go full tdm-mode and walks to the enemies spawn point
>leaving me alone as mercy
>after 10 seconds the enemy is already capturing the point
>we lose
I've been telling you to stop buying blizzard games for almost a decade now. And here you are lapping up their micro-transactions in a shameless TF2 clone with a forced 50% win rate.
When are you idiots going to learn?
>>340514994
Xp only unlock useless skin and voicelines, literally who give a flying fuck?
Do you play for the game itself or for fucking cosmetic shit that no one care about /v/?
>Quick game with all randoms
>One guy picks Reaper
>All the rest pick Mercy
We lost that match but fuck it was hilarious resurrecting several times in a row.
>>340524019
Do they have plans for new skins though ? I feel the legendary are a bit lackluster. I wouldn't mind simpler, more thematic skins with more variety
>>340522994
The same arguments are in all competitive games retard. Why those get a pass?
Fucking summer.
>>340517419
Abandon your hope dude. Fighting on the spot is impossible for average players since ever. If people couldnt learn this for 12 years in WoW battlegrounds, they won't here. Just accept its on you to be on the payload. Everyone else doesnt give a fuck. Kills are more important to them you know. Even if there is no ranking apart from medals.
>payload map on attack
>take reinhardt, because nobody else will
rest of team
>hanzo
>genji
>widowmaker
>hanzo
bastion right outside of spawn, 2 hanzos behind me won't kill him, he breaks my shield we all die
>>340524019
Are you retarded? If you play only for the game itself then why would you want any unlocks at all?
>>340524605
>payload map on attack
>ennemy team has 2 bastions and 2 toblerones
Still managed a beautiful flanking attack with Zarya and destroyed both bastions and turrets but holy shit it was no fun
Do you have PROOFS of this systems?
>That faggot who ALWAYS plays Hanzo no matter what
RRREEEE
WE LOSE BECAUSE YOU'RE A SHITTER NOT PLAYING A DECENT DEFENSIVE HERO
GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
>>340520567
Fellow mercybro.
I know that feel.
I love playing Mercy but she's so fucking pathetic without any kind of support. I honestly wish her staff or pea-shooter did more damage, or that she could zip to places that AREN'T allies.
Because I actually really like playing her, but without a cognizant team, she's dead. It's suffering
>>340514994
>>340515418
>>340519201
That fucking pics. Literally dying over here
>>340524940
If you want to disprove people then show prove on how 50% force winrate isnt a thing.
>>340518145
>counts as defeat
>gives 0 xp
Literally just the ultimate fuck you, smeared hard in your face.
>finish game
>quit before getting exp
>lv1 forever
>can get into matches quickly instead of the forced 50%
>>340523656
I have about a 60% win rate with Reinhardt but I am in no way that good with him.I'm probably a 30-40% at best. It's from playing on decent teams during the few times I did use him.
Bastion needs a small buff.
>>340525468
That doesn't work, you get XP and level up the moment the game finishes. You can quit and open a new loot box while PotG still plays.
>Volskaya industries as attacker
play weekly brawl with random heroes on
a much more fun expirience and win a lot more games
this should be always on
>you can't choose what map and game mode you want to play
I just thought that was an open beta thing. Do characters still have infinite ammo?
>>340515485
I don't think it needs to kick you to shuffle you into a better/worse arrangement.
>tfw you're shit with everyone
It's a fun game, I just wish I was better
>>340525585
>small
He needs a massive buff, he's useless. The damn character gets a buff almost every single patch and he's still the worst character in the game. Bring back his shield, do fucking something.
>>340518623
I think this post really sums up /v/.
Autistic enough to write something like that, yet still casual enough to actually be playing shit like Overwatch
>>340525925
Yes
>forced to win 50% of your matches
>>340523081
She barely has any damage at range.
>>340514994
>Who would ever think that this is a good system?
Blizzard, since valve also makes use of it and they decided to rip off everything valve did.
>>340526145
For whatever reason, this post right here made me grin ear to ear and fill my heart with warmth.
Thanks Anon. You didn't mean to, and you couldn't have known it, but this made my day so much better. Not dreading to head into work so much now.
>>340514994
>>340524519
And what magical MMR based matchmaking system do you propose that doesn't eventually even out at 50%?
>>340518175
It's a huge pain in the ass to round up exactly 12 people for a custom. This game is non-functional without exactly 12 people. Gameplay-to-idle time would be significantly longer without automatic matchmaking filling in that 12th slot, or having friends stuck observing as 13th.
Given Overwatch's only game mode is their tightly controlled objective modes, server browser and automatic matchmaking function similarly anyways - unless the game is relatively even, one side will stomp, the other side will leave, and y'all will have to wait for it to refill and stomp again or find another server.
I think people are rose-tinting server browsers here. It's not like Overwatch has a meatgrinder 2fort/DM/Battlefield/etc style mode where games last a long time and it's perfectly functional with players hopping in and out mid game where selecting and sticking with a server or community would actually be beneficial. There's no point to server browsers with Overwatch's single short duration objective focused gameplay type.
>>340517946
That's not how statistics work.
>join 4chan group in Overwatch
>lose spectacularly every game cause no communication (I'm the only one talking on mic)
The forced 50% is probably helping all you shutters.
>>340526006
>mfw I start to get a hang of Zarya and stay charged at 60% in average during a game and only die once
>>340525802
this is why I just quit after victory/defeat text pops up to skip all the pog and card shit because it doesnt count as a leave then
post em
>when your team picks two genjis and you know youre about to lose
>>340526048
He loses engagements to over half the cast (half of those hard counter him), he HAS to be stationary to do any damage, slow as sin and a huge target.
Literally the only thing he has going for him is DPS against tanks, but regardless other chars can do what he does and more.
>defense
>my whole team pick offensive
>still funny to play this game even raging af
>>340525585
why did they remove the frontal shield mechanic from bastion in the first place?
>giving a shit about stats and not just playing the game
I know you all need to compensate for your tiny dicks, but you probably shouldn't do it with a video game.
>>340526641
t. casual shitter
>>340515418
Jesus Christ. This.
>Play Mercy
>Heal for ~11.5k
>7 rez
>Lose badly because lol defense Tracer
>Our widow only ults one time
>Mfw
>>340514994
Why are you overwatch kuks so bad at games? You aren't forced to lose you just suck.
>Guy autistically rages when I don't pick Lucio
Fuck you, I don't care if we win, I'm going to play Zen and have fun with him instead of a boring ass "stand in the middle" shit.
>>340526598
Bastion is a noob crusher, its turret does insane damage and if you're a slow character you can get fucked in less than a second
>>340526541
>2 Tracers
>2 Soldiers
>>340516439
yeah no, when I played LoL I used to have 70% winrate and so does every pro player
>it's a "the rest of your team pick hanzos and widowmakers" episode
help
>>340526726
lucio's pretty fun when you get the hang of consistently remaining on walls like fucking spiderman with his passive
the worst part about lucio is his character. i wish they'd just gone with making him a bastion-like omnic. jesus christ i am sick of hearing everything he says, and he says shit every second
>Gud at games
>90% win rate from levels 1 to 8
>Now I'm fighting level 50s while on a team of 10-20s
>Slowly dropped to low 60%
And the ride's still not over.
I've been losing my motivation to play. I can't carry that many people that many times.
>>340526782
>Out LoLing LoL in the casual rubberbanding
You know Blizzard fucked up
>>340526093
>any pvp game
>casual
>>340526641
>f-f-f-fun I PLAY FOR FUN
literally the most reddit shit here if you play games for fun leave this place we don't like your kind here.
>>340527043
its even more casual than lol or TF2
>hop in and play
>win
>hop out and re-queue
I almost never stay with a team after a win unless there's one or two people that literally carried everyone hard. Staying with a team after the switch to attack/defend is usually asking for loss in my experience
>>340526541
Play D.Va and follow them around. Get your other three to make a solid wall and flank with the idiots.
Ya'know, if the do flank and not wander into melee range in a straight line.
wew
>>340518623
I sympathize for this demand.
It just will never be a 100% reality, however.
That's why I stopped playing the few competitive games that I played.
>>340526541
>two genjis
>Hanzo
>D.Va
>one Genji switches to Widowmaker
>>340524519
No, al those points have been discussed to death.
Forced 50% is a myth, it's an accurate representation of how well you can influence your team to win.
Tracer being "OP" in the hands of a skilled player is just how her class is balanced, scout has he same nature in TF2 but you learn how to get good to either play around, anticipate, or counter her.
Overwatch is such a copy and pasted game that even the comments in this thread feel like literal clones.
>>340526506
Where do you get that from?
>>340525585
>Use Mercy's pull to a Roadhog waiting on the other side of Hanamura Point B's entrance
>Bastion proceeds to destroy me in less than a second from a hundred yards away
He's fucking fine, don't touch him.
>playing with two of my friends
>opposing team has two reinhardts and two d.va's
>they easily fuck our shit up for two games in a row
>me, my friends, and one of the other team members pick reinhardt
>opposing team just runs away from us
>beat them 3 games in a row
it was fucking glorious
>>340518479
Literally got paired with a level 2 and a level 10 against level 80s and a level 104.
>>340527662
>88 games
Do you even play games?
>Dominate 3 games in a row.
>Get placed on a team with 2 Hanzo's on attack.
thanks blizzard.
>Mei and Winston's primary can hit through Reinhardts shield
>>340527472
masterofoverwatch
>>340527710
I only play 4-5 games a day...And no I play no other games
>fucking around on one of the high ledges in dorado as mccree
>turn around
>enemy widow right behind me trying to take her sweet time to headshot me
>pop her once in the head and she dies
Goddamn I wish I had recorded that, couldn't stop laughing.
>>340527867
fucking normie
>>340527757
>Mei
No it can't. Only Winston's primary, Symmetra's secondary and Rein's Firestrike go through shields.
>>340514994
>>340517616
>people ACTUALLY believe that the game is policing 50% winrate
50% winrate is average.
Literally.
Exactly average.
For every person like pic related, there's probably someone with a 40% winrate. This is how winrates work. This is how games with half decent matchmaking have always worked. There will be outliers, but most people will be around 50%
>>340527470
>Forced 50% is a myth
It is and it isn't.
There's no system that's actually forcing players to lose games, but the matchmaker does try to pit you against players of similar skill. In a hypothetical game where both teams have identically skilled players, neither team would have a skill-based advantage so the chance of either one winning would be 50% (at the start of the match anyway, before gameplay decisions start to influence the outcome).
It's not a perfect system and you're still going to get gregors and shitters here and there, but if the matchmaking is doing its job properly you'll naturally gravitate toward 50% win rate because it's mostly matching you with similarly skilled people.
>/v/ doesnt have friends
>>340528126
>only 60% when you still play with full stacks
holy shit you SUCK
>>340528208
If a game is "((only)) fun with friends" it's not a good game.
>>340528126
>>340528126
how about you include number of games as well, buddy.
only players with hundreds of games and a winrate above 60% are pro players who only play premades.
Its the 'treadmill' system in action, many games do this to keep player retention high, see DOTA, LoL, etc.
>player is doing well
>system starts putting player in lobbies where they are more or less guaranteed to be on the losing team
>it does this until players winrate/ranking falls to a predetermined level, with some variance to mask the deliberate nature of said odd stacking
>returns to normal matchmaking algo
>result is that player does well, then gets dumped into a very hard to break losing streak, then starts doing well again
>creates the illusion of getting better, while also pushing the player to play more games because 'the next one might break my losing streak/get me out of low rank hell'
Chasinf the end to the forced lose streak is the 'carrot on a stick'
>>340528247
>muh stacks
>playing with friends automatically makes you better at the game
lmao
>>340526782
so how come you arent a pro?
>>340528247
>y-you just play with full stacks
>th-that's why you have more wins than me
>yeah that could be the only reason
holy shit that's argument is patheticalmost as pathetic as the fact that I don't have enough friends to even make up half a team
>forced
Yeah nah
>>340514994
>caring about w/l ratio in a casual game
>Every single game
>Defence holds first objective for a minute
>Attackers die and counterpick
>Attack steamrolls the rest of the game
I wish there were more parallel modes, I want ctf, payload race and 5cp maps
>>340516325
Uh Uh I'm not a good loser.
forced 50 is real hehe xd
>>340528387
>only players with hundreds of games and a winrate above 60% are pro players who only play premades.
or people who actually play fps games. i play solo at least 60% of the time. all the people whining about forced 50 are people who dont play fps games, i bet the majority of the people in here came from mobas and other blizzard games and whine when they suck dick at an incredibly easy shooter. ive played cs for 10 years, quake and UT for almost as long, halo 2 and 3 competitively at MLG events, and CoD mw2-blops3 for money. people that are good at shooters will find this game a fucking breeze
>>340528550
because that's not my career choice you retard
>>340521350
>CS is more casual than overwatch
I really hope no one actually believes this.
>>340528689
>tfw successfully defending somewhere that isn't one of the couple of chokepoints where successful defenses normally happen
>>340526332
>And what magical MMR based matchmaking system do you propose that doesn't eventually even out at 50%?
none
its unranked
>>340526689
>Play Mercy on Hanamura
>Only person who manages to push to the first point with me is Hanzo, what an ideal pair
>Roadhog, 76, and Junkrat are continually killed by Tracer
>Even when they're grouped up
>No one goes Reinhardt
Blizzard Matchmaking
Your team skill
70 - you
6 - team mate
6 - team mate
6 - team mate
6 - team mate
6 - team mate
= 100
Enemy team
20 - enemy
20 - enemy
10 - enemy
10 - enemy
20 - enemy
20 - enemy
= 100
100 vs 100
Alright, now the match is balanced fellas! Enjoy!
>>340516691
Did this yesterday. Was Mercy like I usually play. Team keeps running straight into the enemy in front of our reins shield. Go 76 push in so hard the enemy team had to change characters. Pots Zen shooting a ball and ulting.
>>340525305
>tfw I made the D.Va one
Hopefully more get made for the other characters.
>>340528773
You are right. However things could be improved in CS
>>340528773
Overwatch has way more depth than CS due to the choice of what character to play.
>>340528773
It's true.
>>340528387
59.7% is an odd enough number that it has to be at least a few dozen
>>340528963
Also TF2 autobalance
>Is the protagonist
>Noone plays her
>>340529065
at least on csgo you can host your own 120 tick server to mitigate this.
50% win rate meme is really shit but at least pooper peeving other people is pretty fun desu
>>340528894
>hanamura
>post made me immediately thinking about reinhardt
Sorry for your shit teams senpai
>>340529025
>>340529065
This is what I meant. The hit reg is garbage unless you play in unofficial 128 tick servers. This along with the first shot innacuracy of certain weapons needs to be fixed asap. They already fixed the hitboxes themselves though
>>340529029
Overwatch is filled with shitter-friendly heroes whose skill floor and ceiling are inches apart, as well as shitty "press Q to win" mechanics.
The game is fun, but it's casual as fuck.
>>340528894
Jesus.
I am basically stuck in a support role at all times because if I don't we get a mercy that heals for 3k and gets one rez. I love this game but fucking despise the players
>>340529239
Tickrate doesn't affect RNG spread
