Is this the worst 2D Mario game?
yeah
still a pretty fun game tho
>>340510916
Other than Mario Maker but MM isn't really a game. It's more like a crude joke
>>340511707
Mario maker is fucking fun, I'm not even bothered by missing assets since it has its own new ones anyway.
>>340512278
haha, nice bait
>>340510229
it's not that bad imo but i pirated it
>>340512868
it's still the worst though
>>340510229
If you ignore spinoffs like Hotel Mario, Mario is Missing, and Mario's Time Machine, yes.
>>340512667
How is that bait?
>>340513191
Read >>>340511707
I'm ignoring non mario games. Comparing apples to oranges is stupid.
>>340511707
>>340513267
Why is Mario Maker not a game in your eyes?
>>340513641
Because it isn't.
>>340510229
Yes
>>340514539
add to that, that undead are literally just reskins and dont even have unique properties
>>340514539
>What
Boohemoth is art
>>340511707
>Other than Mario Maker but MM
Mario Maker is great. If only the /v/ community was more active and had more people who actully play the levels posted by others. 2/3 of people only shill their own levels. They are a disgrace.
>>340516021
don't forget if most of the levels made aren't automario/kaizo shit
i liked the Mecha-Bowser Jr. one
>>340516256
Playing random levels can be really infuriating but sometimes I come across really well-made levels.
>>340510229
2/Lost Levels is the worst
>>340516458gitgud
>>340516021
Personally I can't like it anymore, I enjoyed it the first couple of weeks but there are so many levels that have shit level design so you keep skipping or beating levels until you find a fun one.
Plus there's no real incentive to exploring since at most you're gonna get a 1-up. If there were alternate exits it'd be more fun but they'd have to change a shitload by adding a map editor based on SMW or something & that's obviously never gonna happen. Also the lack of vertical options make it a bitch to make levels. I'm still hoping this image becomes a reality when it comes to options eventually, it's highly doubtful though.
>>340510229
pretty unoriginal, yes, but by no means actually bad.
>>340514539
I mean, I agree and all, but try sounding less assmad.
>>340510229
Depends on whether or not you count this game.
>>340514539
It's always bowser, it should always be bowser. What you want is not a Mario game.
>>340514539
The beginning of the end. Big bad Miyamoto must've seen this 3 years ago
>>340517141
Yoshi games are generally accepted to be of a separate series
>>340517259
But you get faggots insisting that Yoshi's Island is a Mario game because it has "Super Mario World" tacked onto it.
>>340516021
>>340516256
>Mario Maker is great
I get that school is out and that homework is easy to finish but feel free to leave this thread as it's for adults only.
Least innovative? Sure. But the word "worst" gives off the impression that it's a terrible game, when that's far from the truth. It's a solid 7/10, minimum.
>>340516664
It's not my image, I got it off of this board a while ago. I agree the image comes off that way though.
>>340517157
Super Mario Land had Tatanga, Super Mario Land 2 had Wario & I know this is technically not a Mario game but Super Mario Bros. 2 had Wart. You can use different villains and it can still be a Mario game.
>>340517328
Which is why I said "generally." They did that for brand name and advertising, when really it's a separate series. Like how Wario Land had "Super Mario Land 3" tacked on to it.
Unfortunately some idiots don't realize that.
>>340517352
I don't care for inflated scores that don't really represent anything significant. NSMB2 is a bad game, it doesn't have any Mario levels.And collecting coins is just a chore. It doesn't introduce new gimmicks to collect coins in most of the levels that exist, most levels are just filler, and it really encourages you to just grind the same level 90 times instead of playing each individual level
>>340514539
If you're mad that Mario and Luigi are playable characters, you probably shouldn't be playing Mario games.
>>340512278
Mario Maker is game made so faggots like Markiplier can shitpost video after video of him playing his Autistic fanbases levels
This is the REAL worst Mario platformer. This game has so much annoying unfun shit in it like windy levels, having to use springs to jump across large gaps, cryptic maze levels that loop around until you find out which random pipe you're supposed to go in or which path you're supposed to take.
>>340517348
i've criticize the fact SMM has too much shitty user made levels, and you're accusing me as some bumfuck freshman who thinks SMM is a 9/10 Mario game.
how nice
>>340517653gitgud
>>340517608
>it doesn't have any Mario levels
What?
>collecting coins is just a chore
Don't do it, then. Nobody is forcing you to do so.
>most levels are just filler
You're using the word "filler" because you saw some cool kids in another thread use it. You don't know what it means, and you don't even bother to demonstrate what filler is and what filler isn't in the context of Mario.
>it really encourages you to just grind the same level 90 times instead of playing each individual level
This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
>>340517620
I think he's mad that there isn't any new or out of the ordinary playable characters.
For instance Wario, since the game is about collecting money.
let's take some time to remember the best 2D mario game
>>340514539
Bought this for $15 bucks new on black friday. Sold it for $25. About my only experience with this shitfest. Quit 3DLand after like 3 worlds. Fucking loved 3D World though
>>340517653
The cryptic mazes threw me off a bit, but I enjoyed the challenge. Fuck beating it without continues though.
>>340517620
>dat strawman
he clearly wants other characters
NSMB2 was the perfect chance to throw in Wario and Waluigi in a NSMB game, but nooooo miyamoto couldn't think up a fart attack for him in NSMBW and waluigi is still spinoff OC.
>>340518031
>3D Land is bad
Opinion discarded.
>>340517756
Reread my comment and you might actually be capable of comprehending what it says
>>340518104
Nice amateur philosophy. Come back when you have a proper understanding of logical fallacies.
>>340517945
>I
>can
>do
>this
>too
>without
>actually
>responding
>to
>anything
>you
>have
>to
>say
Try again.
>>340518136
Not him but 3D Land does feel like it's lacking. Sure it has a lot of levels, good quantity and stuff but the stages are dull as hell, I felt like I was playing a prototype of 3D World the whole time.
>>340518136
It's much too easy and relies heavily on top-down gimmicks to push the 3d effect.
>>340518031
>loved 3D world though
3D Land is better in every single way, seems like you aren't capable of comprehending what makes a good game good and are too distracted by living out your fursuit fetish
>>340518312
You forgot to read the bits below the greentext. Try again.
>>340518235
i think you should first, anon. SMM is mediocre at best.
>>340518317
Feels like the tanuki leaf was an afterthought. The game is quite a lot better without it, not game-saving but still.
>>340518317
>>340518325
>wagghgghhh waghhghhhhhh whahhgggh I have to criticise and dislike every aspect of a good game because it's mature and shows I have a deeper understanding of video games like the cool guys on 4chan waghhghhhghhh
Fucking children. Grow up.
>>340518426
You forgot to read the greentext.
>>340518031
I got 3D world in 2013, didn't finish it until earlier this year
>>340518468
I wasn't even thinking of the Tanuki Leaf, I kind of balanced my powers out, flying based items in Mario games always make things a absolute breeze after all.
>>340518538
Stop disregarding others opinions on a game.
>>340517653
It's like a level pack of bad Mario Maker levels. You can't even say that SMM is worse than this because SMM at least has occasional good levels every now and then.
>>340518460
Reread my comment and you might actually be capable of comprehending what it says
>>340518538
The irony of this comment.
>>340518538
>WAHHHHHHH STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE
>>340518723
>SMM at least has occasional good levels every now and then.
Stockholm Syndrome at its finest. Nice bait. Keep it up, have a medium-rare Kino for your efforts.
>>340518705
>Stop disregarding others opinions on a game.
>4Chan
Get out
>>340510229
But which is the best?
>>340518419
Why do you feel this way?
>>340518705
I will happily recognise legitimate critique.
But I will utterly devastate anyone who uses pretence to write off years of work, all because they want to look like they're superdeep fans who are so much better than the casual pleb.
You have been warned.
>>340518863
For me, the basics of a platformer are the controls.
The controls in 3D Land are fine.
The controls in 3D World are Other M tier.
>>340518828
>4Chan
>Chan
>C
Hello r€ddit!
>>340517653
its biggest problem are the traps that you have no way of knowing they're there
>>340518804
Opinions are cool and all but it's not like he's wrong, everyone who plays SMM and likes it has "that" level they like and want to share with people which is what the codes are for. Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eSm3GasNlQ
>>340519007
>>340518857
Galaxy 2 naturally
I play a level or two while I take a shit, not the best Mario game but it keeps me entertained.
So we can all agree that Super Mario 64 was the best Mario game ever made, right? I'm glad we can agree on that.
>>340519086
>convoluted mess: the preview pic
Didn't even have to watch the video. At least you provided an example for me to laugh at. You're the first to actually back up your bait. Nice try. But just typing in best mario maker level and pick the first result isn't really a personal opinion and we all know niggers don't post on 4chan so that video isnt yours.
Have another Kino for your efforts.
>>340519102
>2d mario game
>>340518952
What changed between the two? It's been a good two year since I've touched Land
>>340519292
run button
>>340510229
Nice try anon, its one of tha best
NSMB 1 is the worst
>>340519292
Walk button.
Funny how all the Marios and Zeldas and Metroid for the 3DS turned out to be shit while Kid Icarus, Monster Hunter and Kirby are the best in the franchises.
What the hell happened between Galaxy 2 and now?
>>340519440
I always keep this pic handy.
>>340519459
Wasn't ALBW really good? I thought it was pretty good aside from the main gimmick oh okay.
>>340519459
Funny how you're completely wrong and just being cynical because it's a 4chan meme.
>>340519459
>3DS Kirby
you're so right. I can't fucking wait for Robobot
I can't wait for the next mainline Mario game to come out so all the faggots will jump ship and stop proclaiming 3D World to be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
>>340519292
Maybe button.
>>340519521
What was the point of posting this?
>>340519292
Report button.
What I'm more pissed at.
>oh fuck a SMB game for the Wii! Me and my 3 other friends can play as cool characters!!
>Mario
>Luigi
>Blue Toad
>Yellow Toad
What the FUCK. Two Toads? Really? I can understand using one, but were there really no other better choices of other characters other than Mario, Luigi and Toad? Are these the only non-enemy characters in the entire Mario Bros. universe? Fuck off.
>>340518921
What are you talking about? I just said I felt the game was lacking & dull. 3D World pretty much fixed a lot of my problems with 3D Land, I actually had fun with that one. The areas were mostly interesting (both aesthetically & level design-wise) & there was more variety with gameplay due to the multiple characters & the cat suit having a pretty different take on gameplay, it felt more than just another replacement for a flying ability since it wasn't trying to be that.
>all because they want to look like they're superdeep fans who are so much better than the casual pleb.
Not trying to come off that way at all, while it's one of my more favorable series I was just throwing my 2 cents in on how I feel about the game.
>>340519459
ALBW was great though
>>340519534
The gimmick is one of its strongest points
>>340519459
ALBW was 'fine', 2d zeldas haven't really evolved beyond alttp but the ds games were only bad for being a 3d game on a dpad console.
I wouldn't know about MonHun, but Kirby games aren't doing anything innovative. It's just too slow if anything.
>>340519639
Proof NSMB1 is better than 2.
>>340510229
NSMB 1, SML1 and Lost Levels are all worse than NSMB2.
>>340519587
People are already claiming 3D World is good, wrongfully so.
>>340519707
That's the least of NSMBWii's issues. Small toads look retarded.
>>340519820
Nice bait.
>>340519713
>What are you talking about?
I stopped reading there. If you can't understand the depth in my post, then nothing in your reply is going to be worthwhile.
Let me know when you've done your homework, kiddo.
>>340519587
>implying
No one gave a shit about NSMBU, and most people here dismissed Galaxy 2 as a glorified expansion pack. World has legs to stand on
NSMB 2 > NSMB > NSMB Wii.
>>340519707
>oh cool I can play this with friends!
>get some friends
>every other level is HAHA I KILLED YOU AGAIN HAHA WRECKED
>they never look for big coins (which is fine I guess)
I wish there wasn't collision
>>340519987
Stop being so edgy on a image board & actually reply to criticism & others opinionskiddo.
>>340518921
>>340519987
>>340519987
This man speaks the truth
It's the same poster that made this post >>>340517945
Absolutely retarded
>>340520093
>the amount of times I've been accidentally been used as a boost up because of the chaos of 4 people jumping around
>>340520135
>>340520154
I hid these posts.
>>340520045
>most people here dismissed Galaxy 2 as a glorified expansion pack
Nah, universal praise from critics, normies and 4chan alike. In fact, the best way to spot a man with no taste is to hear him suggesting Galaxy 2 wasn't a masterpiece for no reason other than "it's similar to something else".
You know what other game is similar to something else? All of them.
>>340520219
>>340520276
Samefag
>>340519161
It's boring to replay unless you're a speedrunner, there's no point since all of the fun of exploration and puzzle solving is gone after your first playthrough. I'd much rather replay the Galaxy games or 3D Land/World again.
>>340520663
Even if it were, that wouldn't be an argument
>>340520296
>implying
I'm this guy too>>340519102
I've always felt like an underdog here for liking Galaxy 2 so much
>>340520751
>World
There's always that bait at the end of your sentences that makes you agree with the first part. How do you make me fall for it everytime?
>>340520663
Anon, don't do this samefag stuff, just ignore them or this will turn into the same "screencap (You)" shit that's done in so many threads.
>>340520940
>>340520663
Either way, it's innocent until proven guilty.
Jesus christ this thread fucking sucks. Too much blatant shitposting with chucklefucks complaining about problems that don't exist, and dismissing any arguments against them no matter how strong. /v/ is truly dead.
>>340519587
>>340519861
>>340520881
I can basically guarantee that the only people that dont like 3D World haven't played it, or just absolutely hate actual Mario platforming and only care about exploring (which I guess I can somewhat understand). 3D World has some of the best level design of all the Mario platformers, and the best multiplayer of any platformer to date.
>>340521852
>no true scotsman fallacy
Did Mario rape your mother at gunpoint or something, how can you not comprehend people disliking something whilst having played it? You can't actually refute me. Why even make such a stupid post?
>>340522181
People may legitimately dislike the game having tried it, but every single time I've seen anons dislike 3D World they've been extremely vague (to the point where most could safely assume they haven't tried the game yet) or even state factually incorrect details about the game. So sorry if it sounds presumptuous but it's not without reason that I made such a blanket statement.
>>340522449
Nice boogeyman.
>sorry if it sounds
No, it IS presumptions.
>>340522545
Prove me wrong, then.
Currently, you're doing nothing to help your case, same with this thread as a whole which has the same copypaste "arguments" littered throughout. It's embarrassing.
>>340522635
No, you prove ME wrong. That's how it works
>>340522696
How can I prove you didn't give any reasoning to your arguments? I need to know your own arguments first you're still yet to present to me. So, tell me, why is 3D World apparently bad?I can almost guarantee all you'll have to say is "muh controls" or "muh bland" and similar vague statements that don't actually tell you anything about the game itself, but if not I'd be pleasantly surprised and respectful that someone actually made an effort to properly criticize a game here. It's a win-win.
>>340523174
Respond to any of the posts critcizing 3D World in this thread with a sound counter argument. If you can't, you're just shitposting.
None of that boogeyman fallacy shit please.
>>340519861
>Nice bait.
I am deadly serious.
The first NSMB is the worst one.
SML1 is cheap and short. The sequel was better.
The Lost Levels is hard for the sake of being hard and it isn't as good or revolutionary as the first one.
>>340523592
Ah, I was being ironic, your bait wasn't good, it's stale and just reiterating what you said before doesn't suddenly make the bait any better.
>>340523664
Seek help.
>>340523302
I can't find any post in the thread that gives any reason why they didn't like 3D World, they all just basically say or imply that they didn't like it like >>340518702 >>340519587
I can't argue against them when they don't contain arguments for their disliking of the game in the first place. There needs to be a basis for the disliking of a game for someone to argue against said basis. So, please, share your thoughts on why 3D World is bad otherwise we're going to go in a pointless circle like these threads always do because nobody can be bothered criticizing games properly anymore.
>>340523980
>I can't find any post in the thread that gives any reason why they didn't like 3D World,
Ah so you're selectively blind justso you can keep spouting your boogeyman rhetoric.
>>340523980
Oops replace the first reply quote with this one >>340518317
>>340524101
Point me to any post that has an actuap argument for why 3D World is bad. I can already tell you won't as there doesn't appear to be any this entire thread. Just shitposting (mostly from you, judging by the way you talk/type).
>>340524270
So you're selectively blind. I got it the first time. That is not an excuse to perpetuate in boogeyman myths either way.
>>340524270
>Oops replace the first reply quote with this one >>340518317
I actually stated I liked 3D World after that post, Anon.
>>340518726
so are you just going to spam like a soulless retard? so be it
>>340518419
>>340524270
>Oops replace the first reply quote with this one >>340518317
I swear there's something wrong with my phone misclicking posts.
>>340524358
So you don't have any arguments and none exist at all in the thread?
I'm right all along?
Got it, thanks for clearing that up for yet another thread. Maybe one day I'll see someone legitimately post criticism, but apparently not today!
>>340524442
Maybe if you weren't on a shitty phone you'd actually be capable of reading the damn thread.
>>340524430
>soulless
Are you appealing to emotion?
>>340524607
Read >>>340524358
>>340524430
He's still pulling the same tactic of repeating himself without providing any substance even when asked. Classic tactic of lazy shitposting, just ignore him.
>>340524718
I know you're samefagging, it doesn't bother me but 'lazy' is not an argument.
>>340524662
I read through the entire thread. There's no such posts which is why you can't even quote one let alone provide any kind of argument yourself. You're literally repeating yourself over and over with shit like "nuh-uh there is you're not looking hard enough!" because that is the bare mininum necessary to shitpost. I won't reply at all now unless you provide even 1 point of criticism for your argument that 3D World is bad. I know you won't do this, which will give me a chuckle.
>>340524854
>S-Samefag!
Loving the laughs
>>340525000
But there is. You are clearly selectively blind. I'm simply repeating myself because you seem to be under the impression you're in the right here. Which you're not. I'm merely defending myself after being falsely accused. No shame tactics will make it seem like you 'won'. It's a childish tactic.
>>340519707
Blue/Yellow Toad are there because Miyamoto couldn't figure ways to implement Peach and Wario into NSMBW due to lazy/bullshit reasons. so he decided to keep everyone as the same due to that.
http://www.1up.com/news/miyamoto-wario-fart-attacks
- Why did Nintendo decide to have two Toad characters accompany Mario and Luigi in multiplayer?
>Miyamoto: "Mario and Luigi are the same as always, of course, and suggestions for the other two characters included Wario and Waluigi, Toad, and Princess Peach," Miyamoto said. "The thing is that with Wario he'd need to have a fart attack, Peach would have to be able to fly with her skirt, and so on. With this game we wanted every character to play the same way."
>>340525147
Yes, we all know that's how phones work in incognito mode. You needn't teach me something I already know.
>>340525171
KI'm leaving the thread now, enjoy talking to yourself whilst I chuckle about the whole thing until the next thread with you in it ;^)
>>340525270
Incognito doesn't change your IP, which is how (You)s are recognized
>>340525490
We all know how phones work, you needn't gloss over the actual issue here.
>>340525248
Thank god 3D World actually has characters the play differently like classic mario games used to. I wish NSMB put in that kind of effort.
>>340525248
>Waluigi was considered for a mainline Mario
come the fuck on
>>340525593
Why do you care?
>>340525750
Why do I care about being falsely accused? Read >>>340525171
>>340525248
>"The thing is that with Wario he'd need to have a fart attack, Peach would have to be able to fly with her skirt, and so on. With this game we wanted every character to play the same way."
If Luigi didn't need his high jump why the fuck would Princess Peach or Wario need a special ability?
>>340525867
Nothing to do with the post you called out as a samefag without proof
>>340525248
>>340525974
I heard they didn't have Peach because they'd have to animate her skirt, and the 4th character probably would've been Toad anyway like in US SMB2
>>340510229
Yes. Horridly boring level design, entire gimmick is WOW LOTS OF COINS.
Seriously bad by Mario standards.
>>340526325
that's an even worse reason that I fail to comprehend. You don't have to animate in a 3d game. Jigglebones exist.
>>340526435
Well there's also the fact that Peach is who you're saving in those games, but I guess not having played them you'd not know that
>>340524662
>Are you appealing to emotion?
why do you ask?
>>340524854
>I know you're samefagging, it doesn't bother me but 'lazy' is not an argument.
who put you as the judge over what's an argument? also, talk about insecurity.
>>340526596
I fail to understand why that's relevant, but you're going with the boogeyman thing again.
>>340518538
What is this, a youtube comments section?
>>340526639
>who put you as the judge over what's an argument?
Why do you ask?
>>340526715
It's relevant because peach can't be playable if she's the one you're saving. Come on this isn't taxing on your little brain to figure out
>>340526596
It's not hard to change the "story" so Peach isn't the goal of the game, 3D World did it after all, maybe they were considering it.
>>340518921
>to write off years of work
Lmao you're a faggot. That's criticism of any game.
>>340526828
3D World is also set in a different universe entirely, with different themes and stuff to boot. You're asking for an entirely separate spinoff from the NSMB (which, to be fair, they should be doing by now as NSMB has been going far too londlg and has been rehashed to hell and back)
>>340519707
Honestly, they could have used Yoshi or make an OC for Player 4. Nabbit is not the way to go.
>>340510229
I played that, yeah it's the worst for sure. None of the NSMB games are that good (disclaimer: I haven't played U) but at least the DS one was new on some level and the Wii one had multiplayer. The 3DS one is just shit.
>>340526596
Hurr durr what is 3D World
>>340527047
I've only played U and it's okay I guess. I liked the challenges a lot as most were legitimately challenging for a change. I'd really like to play the original NSMB having seen a neat original bosses in there.
>>340527004
I don't understand your point there, sure they go to a different world/universe but that doesn't mean if they stayed in the Mushroom Kingdom no other plot or goal can be made.
>>340527148
We're talking about the lack of other playable characters (and unique playable character trait) lacking in NSMBWii/NSMBU, which has absolutely nothing to do with 3D World.
>>340527271
True, but the NSMB series is dead-set on using that format all the time, since that (amongst other rehashy shit) is what the NSMB series is about. Generally, NSMB is like SMB3 modernised repeatedly in a largely mediocre fashion - they likely feel that changing that "plot" wouldn't be faithful to the series.
>>340527047
In retrospect, the DS game isn't that bad. It's just that nothing innovative happened afterwards.
NSMB2 has some of the worst platforming in a Mario game, whilst 3D World has some of the best - does anyone know which teams developed those games respectively?
>>340528826
http://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_New_Super_Mario_Bros._2_staff
Less detailed but http://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_Super_Mario_3D_World_staff
I think the 3D World team worked on the Galaxy games previously.
>>340517141
not a bad game desu
>>340528826
>whilst 3D World has some of the best
You keep using the same bait, stop it.
>>340528978
Ah, makes sense given the callbacks to Galaxy, especially in world star
>>340529228
How is it bait? It's just my opinion, you don't have to agree. Besides, 3D World has a great mix of all mario platforming design styles, since it's a blend of 2D and 3D elements (most notably SMB1, SMB3, and the SMG series).
>>340529487
3D World has objectively the worst controls of ANY mario game. This has nothing to do with your opinion. Or anyones. I'm telling you to stop baiting
>>340529565
The controls aren't as bad as people like to make out since powerups are a huge part of 3D World, and said powerups add more moves than any of the other 3D games ever had (such as wall-climbing, pouncing, hovering, flying up, shooting, disguising...). Regardless, though, the moveset of 3D World perfectly fits the game since the levels are designed around it, so it wouldn't be a problem anyway.
>>340517653
>use springs to jump across large gaps
The timings on the springs always fucks me up, still happens in Mario Maker.
>>340529890
>The controls aren't as bad
They're objectively the WORST of ANY mario game
>>340530147
Thanks for ignoring my entire post just to repeat yourself
>>340530242
Thanks for ignoring my post so that I had to repeat myself
It's like this thread has a pet parrot, jesus.
>>340529890
anon, I don't think there's any defending having to press a button to run when you have a control stick right there
don't you agree?
>>340514539
What do you guys think of Sean Maelstrom's theory that Nintendo hates 2D Mario and puts no effort into it even though it always sells better than 3D Mario?
>>340510229
It's a tie between this and NSMB Wii U edition.
>>340530572
There's virtually nothing wrong with NSMBU
>>340530540
No, as that derives from the 2D mario games and is used since it makes most sense given 3D World's heavy use of powerups. Again, like the 2D games.
I just wish Nintendo would get another Buzzword to replace New, they literally admitted they still call it NSMB because simple nippon minds are easily amused by foreign words.
>>340530905
>"Now unveiling: Ultra Mario Bros."
How would you react?
>>340530905
>New Super Mario Bros 3 Turbo Hyper Fighting DX Director's Cut & Knuckles
>>340531598
>Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series!
>>340530905
>>340531598
>Super Mario 3D World 2: Yoshi's Planet
>>340530905
I have a feeling they will do that soon with the next 2D Mario. It would make perfect sense to for Mario Maker to be the pivot point where the New series ends and a different 2D Mario game era begins.
>>340530635
Besides shamelessly recycling nearly every element from NSMB Wii?
>>340533175
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with recycling as long as it improves upon
>>340533256
It doesn't improve on anything
>>340533175
All the NSMB games are rehashes (except the DS one, obviously), so that's a problem with just NSMBU specifically. U at is an improvement over Wii, compared to how crappy NSMB2 is as the sequel to NSMB.
>>340533354
I can't tell if you're just trying out new bait or if you're genuinely this retarded. But I wouldn't wish either of those things upon you
>>340530905
Super Mario Neo?
Nu-Mario Bros.?
>>340533354
The new powerup is better, the level design is a little better, the themes look better visually since they're in HD and have dessert themes, and the castle levels and their bosses are better. Plus, challenge mode is surprisingly good.
>>340533412
He's probably the same baiter that's lurked the entirety of thread.
>>340533372
How is U an improvement when Wii was better in almost every way?
>>340533691
What makes the Wii game better?
>>340533691
>Squirrel powerup (basically works like the SMW cape but with a double jump instead of flight) is way better than that propeller hat shit
>NSMBU makes much better use of the Ice Flower than Wii did, adding some challenges sections where you need to freeze certain enemies or platforms to access a bonus area.
>NSMBU's map actually has some real shortcuts that cross between worlds, as opposed to NSMBWii's map where all of the secret exits only skipped a few levels max.
>NSMBU some actual decent single player level design where almost every obstacle and can be avoided without stopping and every coin can be grabbed or avoided, as shown by the challenge mode, which NSMBWii didn't have.
Tell me again how Wii is better in every way?
>>340533797
>>340534931
I can't. I haven't played a single Mario game and have just been shitposting the entire thread since I'd rather shitpost than play vidya!
>>340518104
Why are Waluigifags so pathetic? Why does he have to appear in mainline Mario games? What's wrong with him being in all Parties, Sports, and Mario Karts?
>>340535920
why do you care?
>>340535920
why can't Waluigi be in platformer outside spinoffs ?
>>340512278
What assets are missing from which games? Not trolling, just haven't played it.
>>340536009
I'm just looking for any excuse to shitpost even if I have to pick out posts from hours ago, as my previous attempts backfired hard.
>>340533581
Challenge mode is essentially nsmb2's gimmick done right + more
>>340536170
There's a few missing themes with assets missing from those themes - the most prominent examples include desert and beach. New assets to mario maker include shell helmets and stackable enemies, as well as most newer assets when used in classic games that didn't exist back then.
>>340536117
he's clearly being hostile over Daisy getting extra shit lately while Waluigi's little spinoff prison is starting to crack slowly.
>>340514539
You're right, but you still come off like an autistic faggot.
>>340536329
Meant for >>340536126
>>340536329
stackable enemies isn't a new thing
>>340536468
What other mario game had stacked enemies?
>>340510229
NSMB1 was much worse.
>>340536126
Look at the image in >>340516514
>>340536126
>>340536421
https://i.4cdn.org/v/1465480535439.png
It's in this very thread
>>340510229
Yeah, definitely. NSMB2 was pathetically easy and it was a literal downgrade from the first and Wii in every single possible regard. It's really the ONLY bad NSMB game.
>>340536530
smw or nsmb
>>340536009
Because you complain like it's objectively wrong for Waluigi to stay in spin-offs, and ever since 3D World, people started to complain "Wah, why isn't Daisy/Toadette/Birdo/Wario/Waligi in". He's a terrible character that only started to get fans by a Kirby comic.
>>340536548
>>340536595
Some of those are a bit debatable as you can substitute other assets for the exact same effect (for example, give a Boo a mushroom and you have the equivalent to a Big Boo, flying hammer bro via putting hammer bro in a lakitu cloud or on winged cloud platforms, ropes via vines on a track, etc.). A lot of those in that pic have one-shot appearances, too. Would be nice if desert stuff and beaches (with adjustable water depth) were added, though - that's what I really want.
>>340536692
Which enemies are stacked on each other in those games?
>>340537209
Are you actually defending Mario Maker and admit to have not played any 2D mario game in the same post?
Man, is it summer already?
>>340535920
>all parties, sports, and mario karts
>mario karts
Waluigi wasn't in 7, which had waluigi pinball
>>340537292
What, I agreed most are missing and that it's a shame they are, I just wanted to point out a few have alternative solutions. How desperate are you to shitpost right now?
>227 posts
>42 ips
>>340537209
The Big Boo in Super Mario World is bigger (nitpick there) & actually takes 3 shots to kill since it's a mini-boss (it's why it's grouped with Reznor & Boom Boom there actually), they should add it as a boss-like character like Bowser & Bowser Jr. Also the way you kill the Flying Hammer Bro is by hitting the blocks under them, those are small things sure, but how you kill an enemy does effect how one plays, ropes I agree on though.
>>340537319
That's because they see Daisy as more important
>>340518312
>WAAAAH HE GREENTEXTED ME SO /I'M/ GOING TO GREENTEXT /HIM/, THAT'LL TEACH 'EM
urafag
>>340517653
I think Super Mario Bros. 2 (J) is a brilliant game. It subverts all of your expectations from the first SMB and really makes you consider what are really the conventions of Mario.
>>340537742
Technically you could put a mushroom'd boo inside a cloud inside a clown car for a similar effect that'd require 3 hits to kill I believe.
>>340538471
Don't Koopa shells & Bob-ombs phase through Boos though? How would you hurt it beyond having a Star?
>>340537573
I'm not the shitposter, I'm an adult and have actually played more than just Mario Maker.
>>340538410
It's the equivalent to a troll stage from Mario maker, too much of it is blatantly unfair - especially the traps.
>>340538652
Might work to have a pswitch that makes something collapses on it, bit I've not used mario maker boos for much beyond the basics so I'm not sure.
>>340538105
yeah, that explains why they delayed her costume SMM for so long
>>340538712
>It's the equivalent to a troll stage from Mario maker
No, it's not. SMB2 is creative and hardly unfair. Stop pretending you know what you're talking about. Proof you have played SMB2 before
How is this awful thread still up, christ
>>340536692
>>340536530
and Sunshine if you count that orb-shape fucks you can spray off to hell
>>340538998
It's been a while for me also honestly since I've gotten bored of the thing. Letting something squash it might kill it but Boos are ghosts & go through walls after all so maybe not, even if it worked though that's still not very boss-like & would only take 1 hit.
>>340539230
Sunshine isn't 2D mario, so not really related.
No, New Super mario Bros and New Super mario bros wii are worst.
>>340539018
SMB2 in JP is Lost levels you fucktard
>>340539589
On what grounds are they worse?
>>340539285
Why not?
>>340539935
Because the point being made is that there's no stackable enemies present in the 2D Mario games present in Mario Maker.
>>340539731
Exactly.
>>340510229
>make a game centered around collecting the FUCK out of coins
>omit Wario
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
If I enjoyed the first one would I enjoy this one?
>>340541779
They should've just made New Wario Land instead.
>>340538682
no, you're just a fucking cry baby faggot
>>340541997
No, NSMBU is what NSMB2 should've been
