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>Just started pic related
What build do I pursue so I don't get assreamed by demon cock?
ONE
>>340481686
Pure Magic like all SMT games
>>340482601
Are Physical or Support not viable?
>>340481686
World of STR, also your demons must cover each others weakness. Buffs and Debuffs will save your ass.
>>340481686
>he doesnt want to be assreamed by this sexy fucker
Are you some kind of fag, op? Because you sound like one
>>340482601
>using magic
Strength or guns, faggot.
Use a strength build. Get Focus and Fog Breath on your character.
>>340482767
Phys is but not for the whole playthrough. Like every SMT game you'll hit a point where pure STR will fail you because everyone will start resisting it
>>340481686
FULL STR
GET FROG BREATH AND WIN THE GAME
Planning on starting this game up in the next week or so. Here's a bump for you.
What's the best way to go about playing this shit?
>PS2
>PSN
>emulated
I have all three available. I wish I could play this shit on my vita though :(
Full luck gotta get dem items and crits
>>340483123
Last I checked there was an issue where you couldn't solve some ladder puzzle on emulator without fiddling with some settings.
That might have been fixed by now though.
SMT Nocturne is one of the few SMT games where it's extremely recommended to go straight up STR. Strength and raw physical attack are godly, and Demifiend is going to be your main damage dealer while the rest of your demons will be support, magic, and buff/debuff. You don't encounter a ton of Physical resist/null/reflect demons until 2/3 through the game.
That being said, your magic stat governs your magic defense as well so do not totally neglect it.
Use a guide to figure out which Magatama have which skills, and plan out your Demifiend. I know a lot of people frown on guides, but you have to level grind to unlock Magatama skills, and if you accidentally learn the wrong skills or pass certain level threshholds you can make it so much harder, or even impossible, to get the skills you want.
I usually have these skills on Demifiend:
Focus [THIS IS A MUST, NEVER DELETE IT], it buffs the next physical attack by 2.5x
Fog Breath
War Cry
Magma Axis (late game skill, it's technically a fire spell but it scales off of physical attack)
Single- Hit physical attack
Multi-hit physical attack
And then filler. I think a buff or something.
Also, last but not least, money is really fucking hard to come by and even late game demons don't drop money for shit. Don't be afraid to sell excess items, don't bother hoarding too much.
>>340481686
>STR>AGI>VIT
Strength will make you jacked as shit, Demi-fiend should be the hardest hitter in the party.
Agi will make sure you don't miss - this is essential in this game because missing makes you lose a turn.
Vit will let you not die, which is important.
Magic is for fucking faggots, don't bother with it. Make a cute demon waifu to handle spellcasting for you. Luck is pretty bad, level it after you are done with your important stats.
Also, make sure you learn the "Focus" ability. its VERY important.
>>340483051
>lying this hard
The best attack in the game is literally a physical skill that hits anything with full damage.
>>340483220
Completed true demon ending on emulator and had no issues it might have been fixed
>>340483220
Don't know anything about a ladder puzzle
Only pcsx2 problem is that an invisible maze becomes visible iirc
>>340481686
There are no builds in SMT. Like most JRPGs, stats are assigned on level up.
>>340483667
No it's like Torment and many other wrpgs where you get a stat on level up.
Don't feel embarrassed about talking out your ass tho!
>>340481686
>STR all the way
>Get Focus ASAP for Demi-Fiend; it makes your next physical attack deal 2.5x more damage for 5 MP
>Fog Breath is amazing. It drastically reduces the enemy's evasion and accuracy
>War Cry is good; it severely lowers an enemy's physical attack and magic attack
>Buffs and debuffs are crucial
>Balance out your demons' weaknesses and strengths; e.g. if you have a demon that's weak to Ice, have a demon that Null or Repels Ice because the Null/Repel will force the enemy to lose turns.
>Fuse Daisoujou as soon as you can and watch as he never runs out of MP while fully healing the party and removing all ailments and also nulls/repels quite a few attack types
Don't be afraid to use a guide to know what weaknesses to prepare against for boss fights. The game has some pretty rough boss fights.
>>340481686
Dont get attached to your fairy. She'll turn into an ugly butch
>>340484030
>Don't be afraid to use a guide to know what weaknesses to prepare against for boss fights.
Don't even read this post op.
>>340484108
Ignore this one too.
>>340484175
Ignore this post OP
>>340483259
Except in Persona 3 where magic is more important. I think P3 and the Devil Survivor games are the only ones in the franchise where magic is better than strength.
>>340484175
Naa, I wanna be surprised, I usually don't use guides. I will use one for how to get the necessary skills though - everyone seems to like Focus, War Cry, and Fog Breath
>getting a critical hit after Tarukaja casts and Focus
Never give up Focus, OP. Ever.
>>340481686
talk to everyone
and examine everything if you ever get lost
>>340484175
Naw fuck you bro, SMT Nocturne is hard as absolute fuck and some of the puzzles are incredibly tedious. OP, don't feel ashamed at using a guide every so often, that way you aren't wandering around and get your shit slapped by a fiend and lose hours of progress.
Also, you'll definitely want to use a guide forPuzzle Boy.
>>340483309
>>340481686
Oh yeah, before I forget; keep your starting fairy around. You can fuse her, but never sacrifice or part ways with her. The demon you fused her with will always be the first one in your party list, if you're having trouble keeping track of her.
Just trust me on this.
>>340481686
STR
>>340484290
Magic is way the fuck better than physical in Strange Journey.
>he used a guide
fucking pussies
i bet you used savestates too
>>340484263
Nah he already read and upvoted mine. Sorry m8.
>>340484331
If the magatama is shaking a lot then that means you're a high enough level to get the next skill.
But yeah the strongest skills are usually hidden in a skill tree you might otherwise ignore.
>>340484459
>SMT Nocturne is hard as absolute fuck
Nuh uh.
>puzzles
Yeah fuck puzzles. I don't play jrpgs for puzzles.
>>340481686
OP here, thanks for all the tips. I'm sure I'll post again if I ever get stuck. Also I'm playing on hard mode because I'm a masochist, so I'm glad I got some advice here first before being a total dorp
I started this game last week. I'm enjoying it so far, but it bothers me that I don't seem to have much say in how my allies develop.
I got rekt by the Matador today.
>>340484557
I thought spamming my almighty shotgun cannon was the best thing the mc could do? Is that magic?
>>340481686
Either puremagic or purestrength.
>>340484365
>Completely buff self
>completely debuff enemy
>Focus
>Free Cougers
>Get a critical
>Watch a boss get decimated in one hit
Also I know he wasn't meant to be a hard fight but punching the shit out of Sakakage (sp?) felt so good.
>>340483051
That's why you use phis-based almighty attacks.
>>340484580
I don't know if the puzzle comment is sarcasm but you cannot tell me you find Amala or the underpass areas to be pleasant.
>>340484695
I'm pretty sure it scales on magic? My character ended up as a maximum magic character for some reason and my almighty shotgun shells started out classing my late game demons.
>>340483220
My only problem is shadows.
>he used a guide on the Pyro Jack puzzle
>>340484664
>I don't seem to have much say in how my allies develop
Fusing.
You can customize and make your demons whatever you want them to be. Learning how to fuse is the most important part of this game.
Also, get buffs.
>>340483150
This post here is made by my nigga of niggas.
I went full strength and luck in my last playthrough, and I had fucking Soma to spare all the fucking time.
>>340483051
And then people get Freikugel, also known as the I win button.And then you get Dante, also known as the I WIN HARDER button.
>>340484906
They're fun painful. Going through the amala ntwork was exciting because you never had any idea how badly you were about to be fucked.
The only unfair one was Beez since you have to have anti-death or something to survive him.
Also I'm the other poster too. Mine was a physical/agility character and he was doing a ton of damage with the almighty shotgun too. I have no idea tho.
>>340485012
Fuck you buddy, those last couple of puzzles were soul crushing.
>>340484664
The key issue with Matador is his mult-hit attack and Red Capote, which maxes out his accuracy and dodging statistic. Which means every time you miss an attack against him you lose a turn.
Therefore, try to find a way to lower his evasion stat. Fog Breath and Sukunda/Sukukaja will be your friend.
>>340485364
Maybe the gun is set damage then.
Anyway, I've never enjoyed the SMT series for its dungeon crawling; in fact, and I'm aware this is heresy here, I always felt that level and dungeon design were SMT's weakest aspects. I just fucking love the combat so damn much.
>>340484664
I believe if you're level 18, you can get Uzume through Fusion. Media is one of her default spells and she voids Force attacks. She'll be able to fully heal your party and cause Matador to lose turns when he uses Mazanma.
>>340485072
>>340485545
Thanks kind anons. Will do.
How's the music for this game?
So far I've played Persona 3, Persona 4, and a good bit of both of SMT IV and the first Digital Devil Saga. How's the soundtrack stack up?
DDS is easily my favorite. Fucking hell this song is the jam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-eoFTnthi4
>>340485794
I love the music in DDS. It's great in all the SMT games I've played (though I haven't played 2, or the DS ones, and I can't remember how it is in P1)
>>340485794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvDuBdcB2YE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6LWQhvzRw
>>340485687
The dungeons have always just been cool music + your own imagination imo. I agree that the demon raising and actual battles are the best part.
>>340485760
I had the Angel helping me out with healing, but then it swapped it out for another ability during a level up.
I'm level 19 now since I've been grinding. I'll have to take time to learn the fusion system. Thanks.
>>340485794
It's overrated but if you love the trash that was DDS's OST then you'll love Nocturne's.
Both SJ and IV had better OST
>>340485794
this is the best track in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IckRhKXfWxo
Don't mind me, just being the best SMT
>>340482386
MORE
>>340485794
Nocturne has a very good OST. The battle themes are great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR6pHaeRV3wI swear, by my sword and capote, that I will once again prove victorious!!
>>340486028
DDS ost is absolutely perfect for the setting in the game and most of it kind of loses some luster when listened apart from that. Spider's Thread Part II and Hunting are still great though.
>>340486028
SMT children are hilarious.
>mfw doing Hard Mode run and beating Lucifer's ass easily at the end with a team of Shiva, Metatron and Titania
God I love becoming OP as shit in RPGs.
>>340486028
>SJ
it has the best battle theme, but that's it
>>340486028
>DDS OST
>Trash
Holy shit. Could there be a man with worse taste?
Is normal mode the preffered starting difficulty?
Or does this game die out towards the end if you're not on hard mode, due to how retardedly strong your party gets?
>>340485792
Also, half of Matador's attacks are Force/Wind attacks, so have demons/yourself either being resistant to that or at least not weak to it. Any demon who is weak to force will give Matador an extra turn to attack. I do not believe Matador has any weaknesses though.
Matador is a major casual filter boss so don't be ashamed at sucking.
>second Dante fight
>attacks with Rebellion, E&I, and Stinger
>uses Showtime
>screen flashes with BINGO, ARE YOU READY, and SHOWTIME as he attacks your whole party with DMC style combos
How did Atlus get Dante so right?
>>340484724
>tfw I one-hit Chiaki
Never have I felt so powerful.
>Lucifer: You and 3 other dudes teaming up defeated me, therefore you can take my place as head demon.
Why?
>>340486596
Normal mode will be fairly balanced for you throughout the game save if you do the True Ending path and grind a lot, though even then you won't likely become too OP without a guide. Hard will break your balls if you're doing NG of it early on, but becomes far easier overtime once you got a decent party lined up.
>>340486596
Normal.
There are lots of boss fights so you never feel too strong, this applies to the whole series.
>>340486716
>take my place
Where did he ever say he was stepping down?
>>340486160
I'll bite. Why is it the best?
>>340486596
What is wrong, anon?do you not seek the thrill of death?
>>340486750
>>340486754
Appreciate it, anons.
>>340486973
>I'll bite
Are you trying to imply you have shit taste and don't think it's the best?
>>340487041
I'm looking to enjoy my game, not suffer through it. I played SMT IV before and the first few hours of that game felt more like an RNG generator of death than a videogame.
>>340486160
I just started this one a few days ago. The alignment system is making it hard to recruit demons and exploit weaknesses.
At what point will this game really start to heat up? I'm only on the second floor of antillia.
>>340487174
I'm implying I haven't played it, so I have no clue if it is the best or not.
>>340486895
You raaaaang?
>>340486973
compared to Nocturne and 4 it actually has dungeons, however SJwarriors forget that demon co-op is a shit system that doesnt reward the opposition and only serves to cut party variety. and if you have a perfectionist personality god help you with the fusion system
Get high str and get the skill focus. Never, ever drop that skill because it's useful throughout the entire game. Other details aren't that important.
>>340483259
Don't forget Pierce
>>340487264
It's gonna start kicking your ass when you reach the second sector
>>340487193
It gets easier, RNG is always there but the playcoin buyback system makes it feel like nothing
>>340484365
>Fully debuffed Trumpter and buffed myself
>Focus
>Freikugel
>Crit
>Killed him before his first toot
>>340486017
>Actually saying yes to changing skills
YOU FOOL
>>340487412
>not recommending Fog Breath to JUST an enemy's accuracy and evasion
>>340487725
This fucked me up something serious in Persona 4 so many fucking times.
Is it actually ever worth it?
I think every time I did it, I ended up having to reload my save.
>>340487725
Not that anon, but the Persona games spoiled me real badly when it came to that stuff.
>Persona
>Oh look, now you have Victory Cry
>Oh look, Endure
>Neat shit
>Nocturne
>Oh, look, Wind Amp on a Physical Demon
>Oh look, Treasure Hunt
>Oh look, Agi
>Fuck you.
>>340487938
It is never worth it, I emulated every single PS2 SMT and never once would I get a result that wouldnt cause me to reload my state
>>340487938
It has helped me many timesI make a save state beforehand in case it sucks though
>>340487480
Yeah, I feel you on that. I got to the underworld or whatever before I ended up quitting that game. The story and characters were so ass though, for a series where I enjoyed the plots and characters so much.
Why was there no reaction, at all, to the fact that the underworld is completely different than what they had been taught?
>>340487938
I've had it be a huge help exactly one time: Alice in SJ skill swapped from some crappy Agidyne spell to an almighty spell I forget the name of. A high level one.
>>340488084
>>340488130
>using save states
I wish I could have played Golden on fucking emulator. Going back and doing dungeon floors, or grinding again, because of trying to change skills fucking pissed me right off.
Might emulate it just for this instead of playing it on the PSN, t b h.
>>340482601
except that's wrong in this game
>>340488372
Its a shame because SMT4 has some of the best settings and atmosphere of an SMT game, really would try to encourage you to at least make it to tokyo if you havent already
>>340488662
>t b h
Kill yourself.
>>340488662
or you could just not press yes every time the option to change a skill came up retard
>>340488761
Is Tokyo the place you get to once you beat Medusa? That big metropolis area underground where you actually have a world map? I got there when I stopped.
>>340487938
There was that one time it gave one of my demons Jihad. It then proceeded to rape everything single-handedly.
>>340488761
>tfw SMTIV's concept art looks 100 times better than the game itself
>>340488931
It was my first SMT, or whatever don't bust a nut, game where that option came up and was under the pretense that it would help. I fucked up twice and didnt bother with it after that.
>>340488969
thats the one, everything after that is super easy but if you dont like it already then you might as well drop it
>>340489070
what ending did you get the first time, or pushed for
i went the neutral ending, then went TDE the second time
>>340488761
>You will never play a cyberpunk style SMT game on PS4
>>340486086
oh fuck I remember playing that fucking puzzle all afternoon, couldnt get this shit out of my head for like a week straight
>>340489098
I'd have to imagine that most people quit before that part? Medusa and that Minotaur from earlier in the game are outrageous as fuck.
But yeah, I got really annoyed at how the characters had almost no reaction to what the fuck they were seeing. It really took me out of the experience. Also, the characters themselves were kinda MEH at best at that point.
Does it get much better past that? I'm interested in IV Apocalypse, and it seems the stories are connected, in sorts.
>>340489352
thats the only two good endings to push for, all the rest are a waste of time, everyone on that world was a straight up dumbass so it wasnt hard to go neutral at all.
>>340485794
Every single Megaten has a Good OST, SMT4 DDS and Nocturne are considered the best of the bunch howerver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKJo4uC9o_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz-3ZuqLQg8
>>340488761
That's the 3DS one yeah?
>>340489352
TDE for my first
>>340489647
Walter goes generic chaos fag and 80s kid goes lawfag, but unlike other SMT games they are more tempered in their beliefs. at least untill they both end upsacrificing themselves for their beliefs
>>340489352
All the other endings are complete wastes of time that require you to agree with some of the biggest dipshits in video games
>>340487785
Having buff/debuff skills on the MC isn't necessary. You can just give them to a demon. I wrote the essentials which are: high str and the skill 'focus'
Isn't there a persona MMO or something? I've never seen any threads about it.
>>340489956
Oh, wow. So they remain boring static LAW and CHAOS fags like they started? That's pretty cool that they do that at the end though. Kinda makes me interested, a bit.
Maybe, I'll watch a let's play of it before Apocalypse drops. I don't feel like buying it again.
>>340490428
It's SMT and I remember it being somewhat mediocre.
>>340490428
I think NINE is dead. Not sure tho.
>>340490008
Hey, I could agree with Chiaki because it meant I got to punch her in the face anyways.
>>340490471
Actually, If i bought it on the nintendo store and still have the SD card where I downloaded it, but not that particular 3DS, could I play it on another 3DS?
>>340481686
What build do I use in SMTIV to not get my asshole reamed? Or at the very least the build NOT to use
go Str bro.
Fog Breath, Focus+optic blast thingy with pierce
no one can stop u. magic is shite
>>340490750
all points in MAG AGI and LUC
I'm playing Nocturne, Hikawa did some shit to Ikebukuro, so far i've been using mostly demons that can evolde, but not all of them are actually good, should i just go for high level demons and not get one just because it can evolve?
>>340490750
Either Magic, Dex or Luck
whatever you do go balls deep
>>340490963
if a demon cant learn and new tricks it belongs in the trash, only exception is my man pick related
>>340485330
>Spoiler
That's notSuper Pixie
>>340490750
Always level Agi and Luck no matter the build
Avoid Str like the plague
>>340490642
I had that happen to me once. I think I had to write them a letter and give them my phone number so they could call me, ask me for my Nintendo Id and then process something.
Yes, it can be done but it takes time.
>>340490058
>>340488761
>tfw no console release
>>340491195Super Pixieis more of an I NEVER DIE button.
Having both in your party is basically having the unmovable object and unstoppable object on your side.
>>340481686
>build
fuck you
>>340489151
>>340491468
>This whole thing
Are you serious? I guess I'll go see If I actually kept the SD card.
Could I get it if I connect my Nintendo ID to another 3DS and download it again? Ninty is so fucking odd with their things.
>>340491195
What is supposed to be so good aboutSuper Pixieanyway? the skillset is not very impressive or anything
>>340491814
I'm fugging serious, mate.
My 2DS got smashed, so when I got another one, it technically was a different machine. So I had to go look for the support website, drop them an email, get that phone call, give them my ID, they give you a confirmation number, they fucking ask you what digital titles you used to have to prove you are you, and THEN you can connect your 3DS to your old ID. AND you'll probably have to download the game again too (which makes no fucking sense to me).
But hey, they have Zelda music when you're waiting on the phone. :^)
>>340492273
I believe the stats are really souped up.
>>340492401
>oh shit this actually sounds just fucking fine, actually.
Why is Ninty so incredibly odd about fucking everything though?
>>340492273
Super high stats
Top-tier skills of all elements
Pierce
Great healing
Other than buff/debuff spells, she can pretty much do it all.
Which is why you keep a Metatron with Debilitate around, too.
>>340492640
my MC was only level 69 when I did the Lucifer fight so Pixie and Dante from the devil may cry series carried me pretty hard
Wurld of STR
I'm a little bit ways in after Matador.
When do I get focus? Should I stick with the phys mag? Any demons to focus towards? I have a bunch of my shitty force resist dudes
>>340492640
>Pierce
>Top-tier skills of all elements
Wait, what? I just booted my Nocturne save before the last boss and she has none of that.
Only Mazyodine, Megidolaon, Mediarahan, Samrecarm and Endure. Of those, the only one that is really cool is Endure, so my Titania was pretty much better in every way except for the stats (which don't really seem to make that big of a difference) and being 10 or so levels lower. Does she gain more skills if you level her? I am missing something?
>>340493238
Stick with that physical Magatma until it teaches Focus and then it will carry you for the rest of the game.
Uzume is a nice demon to have at that point, make sure you learn all of her skills.
>>340493498
Until? Should I swap mags for bosses after I get it?
What level do I get focus at?
>>340493238
The next two major bosses focus on electricity/physical and physical respectively.
>>340493610
i was under the impression you only get a skill if you have the mag in when you level up
i don't want to miss it or anything
>>340493564
You should be swapping out Magatamas if the one you have equipped won't give you a skill next level
You get Focus from the Kamudo Magatama at level 23
>>340493776
That is correct, but so long as you don't refuse the skill when the time comes or pick it and replace it later you can never miss a skill.
>>340493776
How it works is you need to be a certain level to get a skill from a Magatama, then have it equipped when you level up
You can't straight-up just miss getting a skill, don't worry
>>340493564
You're talking about the Kamudo magatama, right? It teaches Focus after level 23. The way it works is that the magatama teaches skills only after you're at least at a certain level. If you are level 25, equip Kamudo, and gain a level, you can still learn Focus, for an example.
If you look at the Magatama screen, you can see that some of then are shaking, this means that they are close to teaching a skill. I recomend looking up a list of magatamas online so you can plan your skills ahead, though.
Do stats affect how much HP and SP you get when you level up
>>340494721
I believe Vitality determines HP and Magic determines MP. Magic also determines magic defense.
I don't think it has anything to do with stat gain on level up though.
>>340494087
Are there ever Magatamas you don't want to equip until later on in the game? So you don't learn their skills too early?
>>340494812
I don't think magic gives you magic defense in Nocturne
I'm pretty sure that wasn't a thing until DDS
>>340494721
No, but each point of Vit or Mag increases them by a set amount. Notice that if you equip a Magatama with Vit/Mag bonuses your HP and SP will increase as well.
STR
Focus + Freikugel = pretty good time.
>>340494876
Magic gives magic defense in SMT 1 2 and Soul Hackers so I assume the same of all other SMT titles
>>340481686
God, I can't wait to get back to SMT. Playing Persona 4 right now. Too bad it, like Persona 3, is pretty boring most of the time with only good moments here and there. I'd have stopped playing already if I didn't buy it. That and the fact that I'm at the very end of September have 5 months left until the Golden ending are the only things keeping me going.
I was watching some videos of SMT III last night, it looks pretty good. One of my more anticipated SMT games, though I'm quite looking forward to Final as well, though I'm not sure why. Maybe it's the soundtrack that has me interested, and the fact that there's an Alliance of Gods in there. Got to be more interesting than high school shenanigans. I managed to find an iso of the special edition with Raidou in it, so that's cool (even though I haven't played any games with Raidou and know nothing about him. I've heard he's useful because of pierce skills).
>>340495229
On DDS I went for a full agility/strength Serph and he was taking almost twice as much damage from magic as Argilla was. I did the same thing in Nocturne and didn't notice Demi-fiend taking any more damage than the other demons, really. If it changes your magic defense, it must be a rather small amount.
>>340495506
Is the Raidou version actually translated?
>>340496113
Nope.
Never fully debuff an enemy in any stat. Always go 1 above the minimum or they'll just undo all the debuffs.
Am I the only one who went through the trouble of keeping NullDed and NullExpel just so I could keep using Gaia?
>>340495506
>they used the Kaneko model for law and not his glorious anime model
SOILED IT
>>340496636
I like the older SMT art so much more.
>>340496745
I do like the 80s anime art, but I think his newer art works better for video game sprites
>>340496745
Lewd...
>>340496984
Nips are too lewd for the Nippon, dicks are fine though
>>340482601
>Using magic for anything but support in SMT I or II
The absolute madman!
I'm playing SMTIV right now, and I'm having a blast when I'm not getting fucked by an enemy's preemptive strike. I've only played IV and I have my save for SMT1 stuck somewhere on TDL.
>people complain about Minotaur and Medusa when this douche exists
>>340497281
>What's your favorite status ailment?
ALL OF THEM
>>340497281
He and that final White boss almost filtered me, not getting all the special fusion demons like Alice was a mistake. never ever found Concentrate in my first playthrough
>>340497258
>Not keeping everything in SMT stunned with Zio spells.
>>340491273
>Started out with melee focus, so put points into strength
>Later find out that I'm fucking wrong and the game lied to me and you do more physical damage with points in dex
I only found out after putting a crippling amount of points in it too. Fucking Metatron does everything I can do except ten times better.
>>340497467
That's what charm bullets and ice/thunder swords are for though.
Magic is for healing, Hama/Death spells or buffs.
Offensive magic is pointless. The only good one is Divine Punishment, and that's a skill instead of magic.
>>340497258
SMT1 magic seems OP as fuck, does insane damage and causes near constant status effects, STR is fucking useless when I do 3 times as much damage with a MP5 with nerve bullets then having 25 STR and a top tier melee
>>340497623
Well once I got a gun for the heroine I mostly just shot things, yeah. But during boss battles I'd bust out my demons and have them zapping the bosses too because why not?
>TFW you realize you can get any weapon or armor from shops in the PSX version of SMT I for free.
Too bad it doesn't work in other shops.
>>340497641
Maybe I'm just remembering wrong then and thinking it was the same as SMT II. Because magic in SMT II did almost no damage and was only good for stunlocking, which you could do with guns and swords better anyway.
>STR is fucking useless when I do 3 times as much damage with a MP5 with nerve bullets then having 25 STR and a top tier melee
The good fusion swords trashed the guns by mid-late game in SMT II. Again, it could just be my memory acting up for SMT I.
>>340497812
>I'd bust out my demons and have them zapping the bosses too because why not?
Because they did garbage damage and regular attacks or buffs were just more viable.
That's what I found anyway.
>>340497641
>SMT1 magic seems OP as fuck, does insane damage
what
I will concede that Zio is useful for keeping people shocked, though.
Melee doesn't actually get good until you get a decent sword, After that, you won't even need your guns anymore. My SMT 2 run consisted basically of casting tarukaja and letting Aleph and Hiroko kill every boss in 2 turns with Sword attacks.
>>340486239
MEME
>>340497989
tokyo just got nuked so I still have awhile to go. I was just going to go full VIT and use guns the entire time but I put in 20STR just so I could hit the skillcheck when crushing rocks so I can still go back to WORLD OF STR
>>340497989
>Melee doesn't actually get good until you get a decent sword
Really? I always just used guns in SMT 1 because status effects and they hit groups of enemies. I usually did more damage with my guns anyway. In fact, my strategy for most of the final battles were:
>Have Cu Chulainn
>Use Tarukaja every round
>Have the hero and heroine shoot
>End battle in a few rounds
>>340497281
>no ailment resists or removers
>nuked him to shit anyway
Git gud demons.
>>340496539
How are the debuffs undone? Is it a bug or do the enemies auto-cast something?
>>340497584
>DEX causes more physical damage than SRT
What memery is this?
>>340498403
Dekunda removes debuffs on your party. Dekaja removes buffs on the enemy party. Some bosses have those skills to fuck up your strategy. Some bosses will cast it almost instantly (like Matador) and some do it very infrequently.
>>340498293
>Have Cu Chulainn
>Use Tarukaja every round
>Have the hero and heroine shoot
>End battle in a few rounds
That's almost identical to my SMT II final boss experience, except add Divine Retribution for the first couple of rounds and replace the guns with sword attacks.
Also I was doing so much damage with sword attacks that the game did that werid overflow glitch where it roll all the way back to minimum damage because the values went too fucking high. That shit was really annoying.
Man, YHVH was a fucking damage sponge, come to think of it.
>>340488289
oh shit i've wanted to see high res smtiv demi fiend
>>340498764
Here are the others.
>>340498912
>>340498912
>Hero smiling
This doesn't seem right
>>340498912
>>340498989
Are there ones for the heroines?
>>340498736
>fighting YHVH
>cast Tarukaja 4 times
>suddenly Lucifer is doing 3 damage per turn
Combine that with missing a lot because I didn't have sukukaja (even though Aleph and Hiroko both had maxed Speed) and not wanting to use Divine Retribution and this fight took ages.
Why is a giant floating bald head so fucking fast, anyway?
>>340498131
NEGLECTED
>>340499027
This, there is no way the biggest cuck in vidya can be happy
>>340499064
I don't have any.
>>340486674
>How did Atlus get Dante so right?
The character/demon designer was involved with DMC3
>>340489070
Wishing this gets some HD port
>>340498912
>>340498989
fucking awesome
>>340498547
That's what I got from checking information online. Apparently the scaling for dex is better than str in SMT IV, although I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong again. I mean it's still fine, since it only really is fucking me for the dlc bosses, and maybe the fiends when I find someone other than this fucking trumpeter.
>>340499103
I think that bug only affected me against YHVH and Beelzebub. The latter was probably more annoying because I wanted to kill him before he started spamming Mamudo and risk wiping my team every damn turn. What an asshole.
>Why is a giant floating bald head so fucking fast, anyway?
Well, he is God. I had Masakado's Sword and Hinokagutsuchi, so I got prettty lucky with accuracy.
>>340499180
Pity. Do they exist at all?
>>340498403
Yeah, like >>340498403 said, aside from the really early game bosses, pretty much every boss will have dekaja/dekunda. Some just cast them every couple turns, but in general, they'll cast them once your buffs/debuffs reach max in any stat.
>>340481686
Fog Breath 2 Win :^)
>>340499407
I'm sure they do. You can ask /smtg/.
![Christine-Neder-Penis-Festival[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/61MPvxx.jpg "Christine-Neder-Penis-Festival[1].jpg")
>>340497065
Sources check out
>>340488289
He doesn't look right without the black lips. also, seeing Demifiend emote is weird as fuck.
>>340497281
He was my favorite boss.
It really feels like your fighting a battle maddened solider, bringing an offensive team for it and just having both sides go full aggro is really satisfying.
The SMT series is on my list, I'd like to start it soon. Anyone here play some in Japanese and English? How are the localizations of these games? I can play in Japanese, it's not too difficult, just requires looking up kanji and words at times, but not like it was a few years ago. Kinda getting burned out of playing RPGs in Japanese though, I've played only a few games in English for the past couple years.
So how are the localizations? If they're shitty, I'll just play in Japanese. Almost tempted to do that anyway since people seem to think certain scenes with Toki will be censored in IV Final. I've seen them and they're tame as hell, so I don't know.
I hear that the best versions of 1 and 2 are the PSX versions, so those I'll be playing in Nihongo.
>>340500393
Lucky bastard. Since you can read moonrunes, you get to play SMT IF...
I think most of the localizations are fine, though.
>>340501453
Why does If get so much hype? I'll play that one eventually, but it's not high on my list. I'm more interested in I-IV Final and Strange Journey at the moment. From what little I know about If, it sort of makes me think of Persona 1, though that may just be because of the high school setting. I really know fuck all about it though except that the female main characters shows up in Persona 1 and 2.
>>340501661
I'm not sure if it gets hype, it's just that its one of the few ones that haven't been translated, so a lot of us want to play it. It was the inspiration for Persona, actually; it had this mechanic called "Guardian", which is a demon that protects the human characters and gives them stats. It also has a more psichological focus (rather than the Law vs Chaos thing of the other games) and is set on the same universe as Persona as well.
Other games that haven't been translated you might wanna check out are Majin Tensei I and II on SNES, they look pretty cool.
>>340502449
If's psychological focus sounds interesting. And I know even less about Majin Tensei, but I was listening to the soundtrack and I can say that it has a great soundtrack at least.
>>340502631
>If's psychological focus sounds interesting
Play Persona 1 if you haven't yet. You're gonna love it, it is a very underrated game. Go for the PSP port, though.
The Majin Tensei games are Strategy RPGs, which is what makes then different from the others.
>>340486973
great story
great ost
great characters
complex dungeons
good gameplay that is not to hard or to easy (until you reach the final boss)
only compliant i got is the MC is pretty weak and you not allowed to chose his states for him.
>>340502974
Already played it, it was great. Though I played the PSX version because the music seemed to fit the game more, and it did indeed. Persona 2 was good too, though not quite as good as Persona 1 I think (which seems to be an unpopular opinion). Persona 3 and 4... I tried, but they're not for me.
>>340481686
>Asking /v/ for builds
>asking them to role play for you
>asking them to do your trial and error
Exactly the kind of prick that will later claim the game is too easy. Play whatever way you want
>>340503203
It is pretty sad to go on Persona threads and see that nobody has actually played the first game, I had so much fun with it. Gonna do the Snow Queen route soon.
Persona 3 is my favorite game ever, though. Didn't like 4.
>>340503520
>Gonna do the Snow Queen route soon.
Have fun with Thanatos tower and the final dungeon.
>40 STR + Luck/Tarukaja x4 Rakunda x4 on enemy/Focus/Critical hit Freikugel
>>340499064
>>340499407
>>340499641
Unfortunately there aren't any for the heroines. They're from a DLC for Final where the 4 mainline heroes team up with Nanashi to fight Stephen
>>340492625
they didn't create an account system.
they never thought they would see digital being all that great.
