http://www.gamesradar.com/a-skyrim-remaster-might-be-on-the-way-but-heres-why-bethesda-will-never-do-morrowind-hd/
>Understandably, this has got a lot of people talking about the chances of seeing any other Elder Scrolls games all HD'd up. Whatever you might be hoping for you can cross Morrowind off the list. I spoke to Bethesda’s Pete Hines a while back and he was pretty clear on one thing: no Morrowind remaster.
>"To take Morrowind and then to completely rebuild it? It was an Xbox game. To completely rebuild it have it be relevant for today? That’s a pretty massive team doing a massive amount of work,” he explained.
>With a game as old as Morrowind (2002!?) it’s not just a case of brushing up the textures a bit. “You go back and look at it. Do you remember the dialogue system in Morrowind?” points out Hines. “Do you remember what it was like talking to someone and scrolling through this long list of questions. You put that out for someone that just finished Skyrim and they’re going to be like ‘What in the hell…?’”
>Ultimately, the idea of putting out a remastered version of a game as old as Morrowind “doesn’t excite” Hines. "Those great games are great for what they were but I don’t know if we’re ever going to spend time going back to old stuff and saying ‘okay here it is now on this console exactly like it was’”. At least we don't have long to wait until Bethesda's E3 conference on Sunday night.
>expecting a morrowind remaster
They do these remasters for money not for fan service
>>340480809
This. A Morrowind remaster would only sell a fraction of a Skyrim remaster. Hell, Oblivion would make more sense to remaster.
>>340481229
I would play the shit out of an oblivion remaster
>>340480809
My complaint was how Hines scoffed at the dialogue system. Much better than Skyrim's.
Honestly, good.
Morrowind is just fine, mods can beef up the textures, and that should be enough. It's clear to me, based on that info, that they would ruin it. They'd "streamline" everything, and ruin it. People would remember Morrowind as the remake, and not the joy that is the original. Still hurts though.Does anyone know the name of this painting, by chance? I saved it here ages ago, and reverse google was unhelpful
>>340481460
This. What a fucking dumbass. It's like everything that spills out of his gaping mouth finds a way to make me furious.
>>340481460
it worked decently for PC but for console it would be terrible (and it was).
>>340481460
I think he was scoffing more at the fact that people think underage who were brought up with skyrim would be ok with Morrowind dialogue
What if it's actually a bundle of Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim rolled into one with all DLC included with mod compatibility?
Of course, I would be considering this but then I remember that Bethesda are lazy these days.
>>340480568
Just back openMw
it will allow for everything a remaster should be.
>>340481621
>Pete Hines
Thatss a lot of effort into a bullshit explanation when the real reason is consoles couldn't handle Bethesda's shitty engine running more than 6 houses in a city.
On the plus side, Skyrim HD would use a 64-bit executable instead of 32-bit, right?
>>340481523
You didn't reverse image search it.
The answer is literally the first result, kill yourself.
>>340481838
despite how underpowered consoles are to modern PCs do you honestly think they couldnt run an HD version of a nearly 15 year old game?
>>340480568
>Pete Hines
They really need to fire him. Console focused asshole is ruining franchises left and right these days.
>>340481892
doesnt matter, this re-release is for consoles only.
the only new features being HD textures and mod support are things the PC version already has
>>340480568
>Pete Hines
>>340482143
Yeah, but
>32-bit
Is a huge fucking issue when it comes to a game that LITERALLY needs to be extensively modded to be enjoyable.
>>340482114
he's never going to get fired because his dedication to casualization and dumbing down to appeal to the largest audience possible makes his bosses at zenimax big bucks
>>340480568
>“Do you remember what it was like talking to someone and scrolling through this long list of questions. You put that out for someone that just finished Skyrim and they’re going to be like ‘What in the hell…?’”
What the fuck. I'm mad.
As someone who's put plenty of time into Morrowind and TESCS, I totally expected his reasons to be mainly technical. How redoing all the low-poly shit would be too much work, or maybe obsolete code.
But instead we get "m-muh casual players dun like to read"
Bethesda is doing what many other developers are doing, and taking advantage of a lack of BC in XBO and PS4 by selling remasters of last gen games. A Morrowind or Oblivion remaster would be more work for fewer sales.
>>340482281
Although I hate Pete Hines, I'm in agreement with him. The casual fucks won't care about an HD remaster, and if anything, it'll butcher what made Morrowind great.
I enjoy Morrowind as it is now. It's got some great graphic mods. Though I prefer just adding in ambient occlusion and distant landscape; the original art direction and textures are fitting and I don't want them changed.
When (praying to God) OpenMW is done, I have a lot of plans to improve Morrowind extensively. Not so much in the way of graphics, but in gameplay and mechanics. Most of the changes I want to make are not changes that can be done via the construction set. I need complete access to the engine and source code. I want to start from a finished product, though, so I will not begin until OpenMW is more or less complete.
I want to remove a lot of the exploits and imbalances that make some aspects of the game pointless or trivial, and ultimately ruin Morrowind late game. As fun as it is the first time you basically become godlike, the game quickly gets boring and of little challenge. I find Morrowind to be the most enjoyable around levels 5-20. Too early is killing mudcrabs and getting raped, late game is killing a god with one swing of your overpowered enchanted sword and finding fetch quests a waste of your divine time.
Potions are too exploitable(intelligence potions or drinking a shitload of stat boosting alcohol), My solution will be imposing a limit on the amount you can consume within a time frame or preventing stacking of different attributes/skills buffs ( Level 2 character + 15 Sujamma = death machine).
I'll greatly reduce the prices and availability of rarer items(or completely devalue them as they aren't usually found in stores). As it is now, mid-late game Daedric weapons are common, and are worth 50k+ gold. Using creeper trick you can make millions and pay for all the training you want, thus removing the natural character progression.
>>340480568
>You put that out for someone that just finished Skyrim and they’re going to be like ‘What in the hell…?’”
Holy fuck, casuals never stop ruining things?
>You put that out for someone that just finished Skyrim and they’re going to be like ‘What in the hell…?’”
WRPGs are doomed.
>>340482281
>>340482387
Pete Hines looks like the Joker
>>340482358
Frankly I can't imagine anyone playing Morrowind for the first time reacting to the dialogue that way.
Frankly I would envision something more along the lines of "Neat, look at all these dialogue options", then slightly later "Why does everyone have the same dialogue options except for a few".
Certainly not "Whut da heel? Dare R 2 mani wods in da scren 4 me". What exactly does Pete Hines think most people have an IQ of 30 or something?
>>340480568
If you put that in front of a dudebro they're going to be like "what the hell?"
Admitting Skyrim is for the dudebro audience
LOL MUH KNEE ARROW
>>340482413
Granted most of the problems I have with Morrowind are on the side of exploitation, they are too integral to gameplay and setting setting self limitations is a very grey area (I'll only drink 3 potions at a time. I won't use Creeper).
People's suggestion of "don't use it" in regards to Oblivion's fast travel isn't a solution. That game, unlike Morrowind, was *not* built around alternative balanced fast travel methods (boats, silt strider, mages guild etc). So I believe self limitations and rules suck. It's like playing pretend. The rules and balances need to be there.
Anyway, just thought I'd digress and give my opinions and plans. This wouldn't be the first game I did an extensive balanced overhaul on, and it probably won't be the last. It's certainly the one I've long looked forward to. Here's hoping OpenMW finishes.
>>340482048
Depends on how good the textures and shaders are as usual. 30 fps, 900p probably ;)
>>340482413
I'll never understand the mindset of wanting to REMOVE crazy exploits in fucking SINGLE PLAYER GAMES. Nobody's forcing you to break the game.
>dissing the one part of Morrowind that ages well/better than newer Elder Scrolls
Like, he could've picked any other aspect about Morrowind that makes remastering too hard. The models, the rigs, being on old architecture. But what does he decide to blame? The more elaborate dialogue. HA.
>>340482687
>What exactly does Pete Hines think most people have an IQ of 30 or something?
Well, he's not wrong. Most casual players would prefer to just roll through the game killing things, not talking to NPCs.
>>340483050
no wonder dork souls is so popular
I'd rather have Bethesda release Morrowind on GOG.com instead. They tend to do better with supporting legacy games
>>340482413
i'd play it
>>340482915
it's so easy to "exploit" in morrowind that you can do it by accident just by pursuing straightforward game mechanics. you have to intentionally adopt rules for yourself to prevent it, and if you're going to do that you might as well have those rules in a mod
>>340482674
I met the dude last year at Quakecon. He's a fucking robot. Talks like one, shakes hands like one, and I swear, I never saw him blink.
>>340483195
Morrowind is already on GOG, they're also having their summer sale now.
>>340482915
Because he wants to do it and will share it with people who might enjoy an actual improvement to the game.
>>340481460
Except Morrowind's dialogue system was still flawed. The vast majority of NPCs offered no unique dialogue and instead they all just rattle off the same wikipedia article for each topic. As the game goes on, the list of questions gets longer and longer, and suddenly it feels like you're dealing with an encyclopedia of shit you don't want to have to sort through anymore.
The conversation system did allow for greater amounts of dialogue and information to be displayed, but at times it feels extremely redundant and verbose.
There's of course mods like less generic npcs that try to fix this problem, but it's definitely something they would have to fix if they ever tried to remake the series.
>>340483235
Morrowind was nothing but a poor man's Gothic. Elder Scrolls has never been good, now that I think about it. Especially the first two games.
>Marrowind
But Daggarfall was superior in every way?
>>340483364
They should've just put a little icon over an npc's head if they had anything new to say
>>340482915
Read my second post, and grasp the concept brain dead.
The fine line between exploit and natural gameplay is too grey in Morrowind. You can drink as many potions as you want, where do you draw the line? I can levitate and shoot an instant kill bow on an enemy, should I not? If I can't kill a guy in Morrowind, I can down a dozen Flin or Sujamma's and wreck his ass. Should I limit myself? Should I not enchant a weapon to drain health when it attacks?. That's hardly "exploitable." Shit is just overpowered.
As I already noted, self-imposed rules are stupid and take away from the game. You don't have to like the changes and balances I propose, but people like me do. If a game becomes so fucking easy it becomes boring - even without truly "exploiting" - then yes, numb nuts, their is a balance issue.
Morrowind's exploits aren't really exploits. They are just really overpowered systems.
>>340483364
Go home Pete, put another few hours into Fallout 4.
>>340480568
>remastering Skyrim
>the game is only 4 years old
>mods already fixed all the texture issues already
for what purpose?
>>340483431
>Gothic I & II
Those games together are GOAT
>>340480568
The thing is though that people just want to play Morrowind again
We just want a port, not a remaster
>>340482687
Remember, elder scrolls is specically being made for newcomers and Skyrim casuals now. They don't have long enoght attention spans for long bouts of dialogue.
Well fuck
Was gunna play Morrowind again, but it wouldn't launch, so I deleted everything and reinstalled. Now I can't remember what mods I had.
What would a Morrowind Remaster announcement teaser look like?
"You won't want tomissthis"
>>340483564
>implying modern developers care about PC at all
Guess who keeps these companies afloat. Console gamers.
>>340482281
i fucking hate people who use that excuse when talking about internal consistency
>why'd that argonian in tes 6 pull out a gun, shoot me, transform into a car and fly away?
>lol magic and dragons means anything can happen ;)
>>340481648
I played Morrowind on Xbox and it was still spectacular. They just don't want to show their current audience what depth of dialogue has been lost over the years.
Just mod it if you want your "remaster". It's easy as fuck if you use BTB's mod list and source them from the Morrowind Modding History site.
>>340482947
>thinking a keyword based dialogue system where NPC's are just info dumps that keep repeating the same shit and don't feel like actual people is good
Nice meme opinion.
>>340483431
I'd argue that Morrowind had better writing
>>340481460
Someone in Particular
Rumor
Your profession
Wow that sure was fun clicking on those and getting the same useless replies from everyone
>>340480568
>TL:DR why remaster something people actually wanna play when we can do a game from 1 gen back and make a good amount of money with minimal work
>>340483984
Still looks like a PS2 game.
>>340483616
Then make a game that works for both people who do like dialogue and people who do not.
A new special dialogue feature that has special RP options for impatient casuals and murder hobos.
For example, you talk to a guy about a quest to go kill some goblins or something. There can be a bunch of regular dialogue options for RPG players then a special option for either casuals or people playing an impatient asshole mercenary that says something along the line of
>"Look, let's just skip the details and you tell me where to go and who to kill"
This would trigger the start of the quest immediately and mark the location on your map, that way impatient casuals could do their thing and RPG players who like talking to NPCs can still play a game that isn't stripped down to facilitate retards.
You want to bring in new audiences, do it by adding options, not by taking options away.
>>340483984
there's also tesgeneral.com
>>340484160
>"...or maybe ask me about Morrowind lore?"
>Morrowind lore
>"You can buy weapons from the weaponsmith."
It's ok when it works, but holy shit these things are annoying.
>>340484195
It was informative
why are you playing an RPG if you don't want to read dialogue
>>340484207
There's only so much you can do, but I can guarantee you a "remaster" would change more than what people who like Morrowind want changed.
Why remaster it
in it's current state it is perfectly fine and porting it along with Oblivion would just make more money
Bethesda has no reason to remaster Morrowind
1) it would need a total remake
2) bethesda knows about openMW
3) bethesda knows about and support Skywind
>>340481523
iirc its a jester sad about the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth losing some land to Russia (Chernigov)?
>>340480568
Literally the only reason it's getting remastered is so that they can put it on PS4 and Xbone. None of the games really need a remaster/remake except maybe Daggerfall.
>>340482281
>well its jsut a game neways :)
>>340483486
Oh fuck off.
Go back and play Daggerfall and you'll realize that it is nothing but pain.
oblivion pls
Morrowinds dialouge is shit, morrowind is an outdated mess. This is coming from a guy who likes the classic fallouts btw
>you will never CHIM in HD
feels not so good my brethren.
>>340485142
Liking the classic fallouts doesn't make your opinion valid, especially since 1 was the only good one
>>340485331
>le Fallout 2 is bad meme
Kill yourself friend.
>>340485331
>i couldnt get passed the tutorial in fallout 2
>>340485457
>>340485403
>chosen one bullshit
>dude Mormons lmao
>pop culture references everywhere
>Moustache twirling bad guy
I just didn't like it
What fucking purpose is there in making a Skyrim remaster? It's already perfect with mods.
Leave it to the Modders, a Morrowind remaster to them would just be plastering the story onto the creation engine and creating a Nerevarine MC who's now Canon Nord and has a backstory for before the boat.
>>340484195
I guess you'd prefer Fallout 4's four button Mass Effect system?
>>340485927
Xbone/PS4 port, there's literally no other reason.
>>340480568
>remaster skyrim
It will be shit compared to current skyrim with mods
>>340482757
You're doing gods work anon
>>340485927
This isn't for PC, it's for consoles. Stop thinking that just because it's on PC, that's the only version that exists. Western multiplat devs see most of their profit from console.
>>340486091
Mass effects system is better
The investigate option basically does what morrowinds system does
>>340486140
Fuck that. Even normies know the PC version is superior thanks to mods.
Morrowind sucked dick and you people are nostalgia blind because you played it when you were 5.
>>340485927
it's not perfect with mods 2bh. skyrim still runs on dx9 and has all sorts of engine limitations. a skyrim remaster would mean updating the engine to more modern technologies.
and the POINT is to continue pushing mods onto console. bethesda just spent a lot of money on their new bethesda.net mod platform. skyrim was a really popular game from 5 years ago and already has a ton of mods for it. it's the PERFECT candidate for a remaster given what bethesda is trying to do.
1) skyrim sold 25+ million copies, this will print more money
2) this will expand their console modding library
3) this will tide TES fans over for a while because TES 6 probably won't be released for another 2-3 years. it's already been 5 years since skyrim, so 8 years is too long for a franchise to not have some sort of content or refreshment.
>>340483431
>Morrowind was nothing but a poor man's Gothic
Gothic was nothing but a ren faire weirdo's Elder Scrolls.
>>340486272
But consoles are exponentially easier and simpler to set up. If normies cared about PC, then tell me, why are most multiplat sales on console? Not even in the HURF DURF FOUR PLATFORMS OUTSELL ONE way, but on a purely Xbox vs PS vs PC way?
why the fuck are you guys even talking about this?
its already in the works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB_ldn6JQ0o
>>340486219
You don't get to choose what your character says. You click a two word sentence, and Shepard does the rest.
>>340486570
Thats a massive nitpick, the shits never happened to me either. Ive never been suprised with what shepatd says
>>340480568
>With a game as old as Morrowind (2002!?) it’s not just a case of brushing up the textures a bit. “You go back and look at it. Do you remember the dialogue system in Morrowind?” points out Hines. “Do you remember what it was like talking to someone and scrolling through this long list of questions. You put that out for someone that just finished Skyrim and they’re going to be like ‘What in the hell…?’”
Well, at least I know that TES and Fallout are dead for sure and I don't have to buy another RPG from Bethesda again.
>>340486527
Cant wait to play it 2025
>>340486840
If man is still alive...
>>340486527
because its never coming out
I fucking hate bethesda
>>340486998
i love them
>>340480568
>morrowind is an xbox game
>2002 is old
>dialogue is bad
I don't understand the point of Bethesda anymore.
>>340483563
>well thought out criticism of archaic dialogue system
>g-g-go home pete
Hang yourself bud
I don't understand why Todd lets this happen
>>340480568
Threadly reminder
Daggerfall>Oblivion>Skyrim>>>Morrowshit=Arena
>>340487154
>Yes
>Yes
>Yes(Sarcastic)
>No(Yes)
>>340486840
>>340486936
>video came out 2 days ago
>>340483431
I agree.
>>340487154
>clicking on topics is too complicated
>well thought out criticism
8/10 made me reply
>>340487331
u didn't play daggerfall or arena u memer
morrowind > skyrim > oblivion
>>340481229
Oblivion would be a good remaster if they just changed the leveling shit that vanilla Oblivion had.
>>340483202
1) I don't remember a point where I haven't had to go out of my way to exploit. Creeper, super potions, Merchant Mudcrab, and Drain Training all required previous knowledge of the exploit and ambition to pursue it.
2) I think exploits are part of what make thw game great. They take the sandbox aspect of the game to fun experimental levels, in my opinion.
>>340486286
Played it a couple of years ago for the first time and liked it.
Good as much as I hate Pete "I wish I could just walk away" Hines with every fiber of my being, let Morrowind with all its good and bad sides stay as it is.
Here's a few things that modern Bethesda would do to "improve" Morrowind:
>Cities closed off and cut in half to save memory
>Mobile shit interface
>cool little stuff like the dwemer puzzle box being near the entrance of the dungeon will be removed or "redesigned" so you'll have the puzzle box at the very end of the ruins guarded by a bunch of trash mobs because anything else goes against the design philosophy of skyrim.
>no things like the Imperial Cult because they don't make you kill anything and that would be boring for the normies
>morally gray factions like the Telvanni and Morag Tong are not joinable and the default bad guys
Not to mention that they'd probably cut a good amount of quests and replace it with radiant garbage. Oh, and don't forget that instead of slowly rising through the ranks of the various factions, you'd do 4 quests(3 being radiant fetch quests) and be crowned high king supreme master of everything.
He says that remastering Morrowind would be a massive amount of work and he's right, a game like that would be near impossible for a Bethesda post-Skyrim to redo it
>>340487345
>fallout 4's dialogue system is bad
>therefore morrowind's system is bad as well
Nope
Speaking of Fallout 4's dialog system, would it be possible to make a mod that "simplifies" it further? By that I mean, every single 'negative' statement would be something like "I never asked for this," regardless of the context.
I was inspired by that one picture someone did where the answers were "I dindu nuffin" and "where the white women at".
>>340487729
Mistake in writing, I meant to write--
You know what, nevermind, you aren't going to listen to a word I or anyone else says about your precious Morrowind. It's not even a bad game but I swear to god, you Morrobabies can't take criticism at all.
Yes you lazy fucks, instead keep making shitty games with the same shit "modified" engine. FO4 is literally Oblivion with guns, not even Skyrim with guns, but OBLIVION. You can't make this shit up. Can't wait for the normies to catch on to Bethesda's lazy bullshit and give all their Jewtube videos 2 million dislikes just like cawadooty. FO4 didn't win any awards for that same reason.
>>340487729
>>340487843
I would have believed you've given up if you just fucked off already instead of having to explain why you're giving up.
>Skyrim came out 5 years ago, Oblivion came out 10 years ago, Morrowind came out 14 years ago
What the fuck? Where is my TESVI: Elsweyr? It is 2016.
>>340480568
>could have just said rebuilding the game would take too much work
>instead goes a step further and criticizes the dialogue system
what a fucking idiot
>>340487932
Here is your (you) you dumb faggot. Fallout 4 won like 50-60 goty awards.
>>340488078
>It is 2016.
I mean COME ON.
>>340481720
Weren't they working on a morrowind remake in oblivion's engine a few years ago?
OH GEE I WONDER WHAT FUCKING HAPPENED TO IT.
>>340488078
>still believing VI will take place in furry land
It's Hammerfell bud, and VII will probably be set in High Rock, anything else will scare away the casuals because it looks "weird".
>>340487220
>games should fit my ADHD life
>>340480568
>it was an xbox game
>>340488358
different group of people, like how Skywind is different than morrowind
>>340480568
>“Do you remember what it was like talking to someone and scrolling through this long list of questions. You put that out for someone that just finished Skyrim and they’re going to be like ‘What in the hell…?’”
I mean...he's right. outside of the 200 or so nostalgiafags in this thread, the average gamer would hate MW.
in the best case scenario, they would remake it, but in the Skyrim engine and with "modern streamlining" like Skyrim.
>It was an Xbox game
>It was an Xbox game
>It
>was
>an
>Xbox
>game
Maybe to some poor sucker who bought it for the Xbox instead of PC lol
>>340488243
>awards matter
>>340488243
Hey there, Pete. Suck on my dick please, and tell your friend, the manlet man, to suck on it too.
>>340480568
Speaking of Morrowind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SIz0LYWJzQ
>v0.36
>>340488562
yeah. that was pathetic
>>340488358
Morroblivion? You can download it and play it right now, it's complete.
>>340488562
Who is this bully bait
>>340481229
They could fix the leveling issue with NPCs, and put it on the Skyrim engine to make it beautiful and less stiff it would be perfect.
>ywn get an Oblivion remaster that actually updates the game properly
>>340488358
Morblivion and Skywind are just oblivion and skyrim wearing morrowind's skin.
Openmw is a complete remake of the morrowind engine so it's still morrowind, just with a face lift.
>>340488494
I was referring more to the fact that bethesda shoved a C&D letter down their throats and the project was abandoned.
I wouldn't be surprised if the same shit happened to this.
>>340488243
Pete, I know it's you. Just submit your resignation letter already, while you may be the Vice-President of Bethesda we all know who really calls the shots around the place, you're a failure, a joke. You'll always be under the shadow of Todd Howard.
This very fact will always be at the back of your mind whenever you interact with "your" fans on twitter answering questions about "your" game and being on E3 presenting "your" franchise, the one and only reason why Todd likes having you with him during press conferences is because he loves watching you fumble around making shit up about his latest game, how would you really know? After all, they never include you in the company meetings.
Give up and find a new career, if not for yourself then do it for the sake of your family, your wife is working three jobs and your kids need to find a new school.
>47% of the people taking the poll want a Skyrim remaster
The mother fucker is 5 years old, it's the latest ES game (not counting TESO), and it's the latest in a downhill trend for the franchise.
Jesus fuck how dumb are people? When are we getting that ebin DOOM remaster?
Literally 4 more days till Bethesda E3 conference. What will this manlet unleash?
>>340488724
OpenMW is Morrowind with a hip replacement.
>>340488763
They actually have already contacted bethesda and have permission. They are not using any of morrowinds assets to make their new engine and you need to own a copy of the original game to port everything over.
>>340480568
No one would buy a remaster. They're right.
You morrowind fans should just make a youtube vidya that explains the story to new players so they at least know what you're talking about.
>>340488859
Skyrim was a lot of fun.
>Skyrim with ENB built in
Wow what an improvment
>>340488859
Its the only game that had dragons,
I MEAN COME ON WHAT ELSE COULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT IN AN RPG GAME?
>>340488562
I've only ever played Morrowind on the Xbox
I'm not buying another Bethesda game until they kick Gamebryo. You can only polish a turd so much.
On the plus side, Gamebryo releases are easy to pirate, so their laziness pays off in the end.
>>340488914
OpenMw Is the future of morrowind.
>>340488763
They can't. Nothing about openMw is tied to morrowind, it's just an engine. You need to already have the game to play it with openmw
Morrowind isn't even in the name of the engine.
>>340481460
cave rat
>>340487220
is there something wrong with this man's face or did this man simply never learn how to smile?
>>340489120
creation engine
>>340487716
Imperial Cult was unfinished garbage though. You can literally complete almost all of the quests without leaving Ebonheart because most of them were shitty fetch quests.
>>340488913
Lies
>>340489357
You mean Gamebryo 3.0
>>340480568
>It was an Xbox game
We need to burn Bethesda down and start over again.
>>340483364
I prefer being able to ask personality devoid people for directions rather than hear them cycle through four different lines when I try to talk to them.
>>340486920
I just want you to know, I got that, and I liked it
>>340485403
There's a lot to dislike in Fallout 2 though.
First one was way more consistent in tone and atmosphere, while 2 lost a lot of it with its obsession with injecting humour and pop culture references as much as possible.
Is there actually anyone that wants modern Bethesda to dig Morrowind out of it's grave and fuck it's corpse?
>>340483364
It's just absurd that every single person you meet has to treat you like a close friend and give you information of their personal lives and let you help them by giving you quests.
It's not immersive at all.
>>340481229
>Oblivion remaster
>Mods have to be approved by Bethesda before they can be put up
>Then you have to buy them
>>340482281
>>340483923
>>340484993
I agree with Hines, who cares about autistic nerd shit? Just play the video game.
>twas xbox game
>xbox
>game
wow, Bethesda is terminal.
>A Morrowind remaster is definitely not happening
>Guy interviewing him didn't go "Okay well why not Oblivion then"
>>340480568
I just want to play something new
Is it too much to ask?
>>340490338
>Implying hack journalists have played Oblivion
>>340490338
Probably because Oblivion is shit.
>>340480568
Never played Morrowind but is he saying it had way too many dialog options and the people who liked Skyrim won't be able to handle it? Glad I never got into this fucking series.
>>340487987
Original poster, but he came to defend me so I feel like replying now, either way he was saying that criticizing fallout 4's system is not a counter-argument to literally anything I posted. In fact both systems are pretty awful conversation systems.
Fallout 4's is illusion of choice with extremely linear dialogue where-as morrowind is almost the exact opposite problem, verbose dialogue where the vast majority is redundant or meaningless and npcs lack personality
I didn't bother replying to you or whoever else because it's not worth my time replying to low-quality shitposters who are too retarded to actually criticize a game they like.
>>340489620
>morrowind's dialogue is bad and needs to be changed
>yeah b-but f-fallout 4
This is not an argument, I mean I can understand what you guys are saying. The fact that Pete Hines would be in charge of the remake means that the dialogue changes probably wouldn't be good, but that has nothing to do with my criticism of the original game.
Either way I don't see them doing it anyways, not the least because they would spend all their time trying to turn it into a carbon copy of their newer games instead of trying to improve upon the flaws the original game had.
>>340490021
With a remake?
Yea.
Retain most of the original game, port it over, and let the mods fix the rest.
>Todd is working on TESVI right now as I type this
>He is implementing the shitty Fallout 4 dialogue system in it
>He is adding more radiant quests
>He is adding voice acting again
>He is copy-pasting all the dungeon files to make multiple dungeons with no variation at all
>There are bugs, but he is saying "ehh modders will fix it"
>He is laughing at Morrowind babies as he casualizes TESVI
>>340486421
>more sales means its better
be honest anon any bethesda game is better on PC because mods, regardless of sales
>>340486527
>>340488358
why the fuck would anyone want to play a game that shined solely because of how complex it was on engines that can't even hope to emulate and integrate that complexity?
graphics? come the fuck on, Oblivion is ugly as shit and Skyrim has to be hacked apart until it barely runs to look nice.
>>340483564
consoles xD
>>340481229
Holy shit I'd love that. Would much prefer it over something like a Skyrim remaster.......Like what's even the point of that?
>>340483564
>interview flat out said Morrowind is an XBox Phat game instead of PC
are you dumb or what
>>340491184
I'm just telling you from the perspective of the developers and publishers. Let's use a game that's not utter shit without mods, shall we? GTA5 is a hell of a lot better on PC than it is on consoles, but... it sells way, way, way, way, WAY more on consoles. The PS4 alone sold three times as many GTA5s as it did on PC.
>but it was released later!
You know why? Because consoles are where the money is at. Even if it saw a day 1 PC version, it'd still sell well below than it does on consoles. If PC sales were sustainable, there wouldn't be multiplats. PC exclusives wouldn't be ported to consoles. Overwatch was initially a PC exclusive title, and that became a PC and console title. Why? Because PC alone can't pull any weight. Sure PC can far outperform consoles, but publishers don't give a shit about that. Consoles outperform PC in sales, and that's all that matters.
Fucking deal with it.
To be honest, modern players really wouldn't take well to Morrowind anyway
>WHY THE FUCK CANT MY WARRIOR SIGN ORC CAST THIS SPELL AT LEVEL 1 THIS IS SO FUCKING DUMB
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW I DONT GET TO JOIN ALL GREAT HOUSES? HOW DID THEY EVEN GET AWAY WITH THIS?
>HOW DO I KNOW WHERE TO GO!?!?1/111
>HOW COME I CANT MAX OUT ALL THE SKILLS!?
>HOW DO I UNLOCK FAST TRAVEL?
>WHERE IS THE DWEMER PUZZEL BOX?
>>340490559
>yeah b-but f-fallout 4
No, not Fallout 4, it's every Bethesda game past Morrowind that has that..
You're going to DIE in here
>>340491614
>I'm just telling you from the perspective of the developers and publishers.
well if you put it that way sure its better
>>340491915
oblivion intro was so goofy lmao
lamest thing i've ever seen.
>>340490559
Fallout 4 didn't introduce the NPCs spouting vacuous lines when you try to talk to them you fucking moron.
If this does happen, I hope there's at least some bug fixes and ideally fixing of the retardedly unbalanced difficulty.
>>340492059
At least it was fun.
>>340491669
>HOW COME I CANT MAX OUT ALL THE SKILLS!?
Morrowind is by far the easiest game to max out all of your skills, because of no training limits and the fact that things that aren't part of your major/minor skills don't contribute to levels.
I usually start morrowind as a mage but later in the game I am also like 100 in blade/heavy armor/medium armor/blunt etc. and rarely use my spells in combat except for the utility.
Morrowind is honestly too easy to power-game.
>>340492201
morrowind best intro, no time wasting, sets mood
oblivion goofy intro, random secret walls and is just lame and not good.
skyrim boring intro. 2 minutes of no control on wagon and then bad looking scripted events
>>340480568
How does Hines still have a job?
He is so terrible and treats people like shit.
>>340480568
Does Bethesda not understand what mods are?
>>340484890
This is correct. It's a painting called Stańczyk, Stańczyk being the name of the jester in the image. He was not only a jester, but also a highly intelligent politician and often used satire to portray political events.
The jester is attending a ball at the royal court of Poland, being thrown because of a recent victory in the war against Muscovy (the predecessor to Russia). However, the letter on the table, likely discarded by a noble who's too drunk to care, says that Russia has just taken the territory of Smolensk.
Unlike the nobles who are wined, dined, and entertained, he fully understands and recognizes the weight of this development, and laments for his fatherland's future.
In the coming years, the ongoing Polish Renaissance would turn to decline. Many years later, Poland would be partitioned by Russia and the Kingdom of Prussia until it was no more.
>>340492580
yes? the whole point of this update is to make skyrim like fallout 4, aka a game that they can bring mods to on console.
the remaster isn't for pc gamers. since when are remasters meant for pc gamers? virtually none ever even reach pc. remasters are a console thing. the only thing pc might get is a update to skyrim that will update the "Creation engine" with the new engine features they added for fallout 4
>>340488358
I played it. It's fun.
GATHER ROUND BOYS AND GALS
>main quest still annoyingly long and boring
>guild questlines retarded as shit and give no rewards
>dreugh dungeons literally everywhere
>nothing resembling a reputation system
>spellmaking still gone
>spears and various clutter still gone
>magic schools all pointless as fuck
>retarded NPCs without the most basic survival instincts
>smithing making exploration pointless
>towns are tiny barren fuckholes
>civil war literally not happening in skyrim
>ugly, lazy job with UV maps on models
>shit shadows and lightning, bugs out of the ass
>bloats and crashes from just existing
>no lip sync on their mostly voiced game
>max 4 followers, boring, pointless marriage options, pointless adoption mechanic
how many of these issues Bethesda WON'T fix? The answer might surprise you!
This Skyrim remaster is only for next gen consoles you faggots. It is called Skyrim Definitive edition, releasing November 23rd on ps4/xbone. It is literally just a 64 bit version of Skyrim with improved visuals and some mod support on consoles.
>>340492762
I suppose, but why wouldn't they wait for the next next consoles at least so they can run the game at 1080p 60fps
It actually could use a PC remaster though, because the game is horribly CPU bound
>>340492906
you forgot
>Game is exponentially improved by the absence of dragons, one of the main selling points of the damn game, if you just ignore the main story and never encounter the first one
how do you fuck up so bad that the main theme of the goddamn game is a chore
Why the fuck does anyone care about this abortion of a series that hasn't had a good game in more then ten years?
>>340493028
inb4 it breaks all mods that require SKSE but others work fine because you can't use the script extender on consoles and Bethesda despises its PC fanbase
>>340493294
Millions of people do care and here is your (You).
>>340493140
>why wouldn't they wait for the next next consoles
what. the ps4 and xbox one are already out anon. the new consoles ARE the reason they're releasing skyrim again. most late 7th gen games get ported to 8th gen, now skyrim is among their ranks.
>>340482281
The jet outrage, its understandable, its a shitty continuity error.
The kid in the fridge quest? Dont be so autistic, as the guy just said you're talking about a game where you can have a portable nuclear missile launcher or dive headfirst into a pool of radioactive waste and come out with your skin still attached to your body
>>340493294
Because the games are actually pretty good.
>>340493619
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicAIsMagicA
>>340480568
Aren't there like 3 different teams working on this right now anyway, in an unofficial capacity?
>>340492906
Main quest in skyrim lasts 2-3 hours though.
>>340493426
Millions of people also bought skyrim on consoles, pleb consumers are not a good judge of game quality nigger
>>340480568
>morrowind will actually take work to remaster
>so we're doing skyrim instead
>>340490319
>I agree with Hines, who cares about autistic nerd shit? Just play the video game.
>who cares
people that actually care about the game.
>>340494126
do u know what "remaster" means? it means "some small updates both graphical and technical to meet the modern standards"
morrowind would need to be REMADE, which means spending a ton of money and 3-4 years of labor. bethesda is working on TES 6 right now. the skyrim remaster is being done by bethesda's child studio in montreal, not by the actual bethesda studio team.
>>340493636
I heard that the writers that made morrow in so great left the company, which would explain the drastic drop in quality
>>340493990
What is it then faggot? The game has 98% positive review on steam, won 200 goty awards, won 2011 final goty award, has the biggest modding community, still top 10 most played games daily on steam, has 10 million owners on steam currently, etc.
>>340494372
Oblivion would only need to be remastered, and it came out 10 years ago
How the fuck is an Oblivion Remaster not more appropriate
>>340480568
>"Do you remember the dialogue system in Morrowind?” points out Hines. “Do you remember what it was like talking to someone and scrolling through this long list of questions. You put that out for someone that just finished Skyrim and they’re going to be like ‘What in the hell…?'"
yay, more dragons
>>340492343
Fallout 4 is easiest.
So do you people not know about Skywind or what?
Morrowind is basically getting a remaster in the form of a mod. Just get that, it'll be free and you don't even have to pirate it. Why would you want to give Bethesda money for a Morrowind remaster? Like who the fuck cares?
>>340494372
I was going to ask if you're retarded but you can't even bother typing out a 3 letter word.
>>340494483
What the fuck am I bring trolled right now or are you actually fucking retarded? How old are you?
>>340494543
Oblivion would need an entire overhaul of the dialog including re-recording the voices for four of the races because the quality and repetitiveness from Oblivion is unacceptable today.
that, and new faces and an HDR that doesn't look like absolute trash.
>>340490748
Anon... just look at skyrim and oblivion. Or fallout 3 and 4.
They will retain jack shit nothing of the original game besides its surface. Anything deeper than that will go the way of the dodo.
>>340494483
>>340494680
It's never going to be finished much like the project before it that tried to put Morrowind on Oblivion engine.
>>340494825
So have you been keeping up with it at all or are you just a cynic?
>>340494769
>Oblivion would need an entire overhaul of the dialog including re-recording the voices for four of the races
no it wouldn't.
>quality and repetitiveness from Oblivion is unacceptable today.
only because retards like you are the majority of the market now.
>>340494883
Saw it a year ago but also a cynic. Why wouldn't I be? I play video games as a hobby.
What are they going to do? Release Skyrim with the HD update that was on pc for consoles?
Off-topic: I tried playing Oblivion a couple times, and both times I dropped it during the tutorial dungeon because I thought the combat was really boring. Should I try to force myself through that part today and actually get on with the game?
>>340494737
(You)
>>340494908
>defends Oblivion
>calls anyone else retarded
kys pal
>>340494617
Not even remotely. Progression in fallout 4 is tied to the perk system. To get all the perks requires tedious amounts of level grinding.
Morrowind just requires gold which is easy to earn. Not only that, in non fan-patched versions of the game you can cheese the system with skill lowering spells and train at literally any trainer for 1 gold.
I doubt whether any of you have ever played Morrowind before, because the game is so easily broken it's not even funny.
>>340494972
They have videos showing progress all the time, the most recent one was 2 days ago I think. They've come a very long way in a year.
It's coming along nicely, actually.
>>340495076
>defends skyrim
>defends a remaster of 5 year old game
>memespouts
kill yourself, retard.
>>340495040
No, the game is a massive turd unless you drown in in mods.
>>340495016
Probably release those HD textures they had with garbage mipmaps that the fans had to fix themselves. Or better yet, repack said mods and sell it as "remaster". I don't think Zenimax is beyond such things.
>cross generation multiplats
>re-issues/ports of last gen games
>and finally backwards compatible step up consoles
>8th gen is literally, ACTUALLY the remaster/re-issue generation
Boy oh boy, I can't wait until they come out with "Bloodborne: Definitive Edition" for the Neo or "Halo 5: Remastered" for the Scorpio. This is like a fucking joke.
>"To take Morrowind and then to completely rebuild it? It was an Xbox game. To completely rebuild it have it be relevant for today? That’s a pretty massive team doing a massive amount of work,” he explained.
Jesus christ do they even know how to make games? Bethesda is really one of the worst devs, shows how lazy they are
>>340494680
Oh gee. Such joy. I sure want to play a castrated version of morrowind without all the attributes, skills/magic schools, spellmaking and a large contingent of features that are absent in skyrim and can't be added back in without removing something else.
But don't worry, I'm not kidding myself, I don't want a remake by the current bethesda either. They are not interested in taking the effort to properly do it, anyways without actually dumbing it down in the process.
>>340495265
no... it will be called Halo....5K!
>>340495180
Oblivion is Skyrim for yesteryear's casuals. It will never deserve respect and you are a fool for ever trying to convince anyone there's something good about it when it's flaws are orders of magnitude more unpalatable and outrageous than Skyrim's.
>>340483564
Well, they could have just released a x64 dx11 version since they already did that during development of Fallout 4, but there's no money in that. Gotta pimp out that whore one more time.
post yfw Skyrim Remaster still looks worse than modded Skyrim on PC
>>340495362
Considering how the Scorpio is touted as being stronger than the Neo, that seems reasonable.
Man, I don't even give a fuck about Elder Scrolls, but from what I understand, Morrowind's the best one, so why wouldn't they either remake it or give it an HD makeover?
>>340480568
>Remaster an old game that could benefit from it? That's fucking hard, man, fuck that
>Let's just slap some HD textures on our latest game
Holy shit
>>340495573
They are afraid it's gameplay is outdated for the modern audience.
>>340495429
>when it's flaws are orders of magnitude more unpalatable and outrageous than Skyrim's.
you obviously hate RPGs if you think skyrim exceeded in anything other than mediocrity.
>>340495356
Except that they are literally rebuilding the entire thing.. so you do get that.
How about you look it up before you make ridiculous accusations you meme loving fuck.
>>340480568
>It was an Xbox game
I hope he gets hit be a fucking truck.
what a piece of shit.
>>340495429
It had memorable quests.
>>340495548
i dont think so. graphics mods on pc means enbs and enb makes the game look awful.
