Who is the TOUGHEST boss in Souls?
>>340457892
1. Orphan of Kos
2. Nameless King
3. Ludwig the Accursed
Bullshit tier:
1. Ancient Dragon
2. Bed of Chaos
>>340457892
>das2
Kek
The only ones I find consistently difficult now are Orphan of Kos and nameless king
Champion Gundyr is pretty intense as well
>>340457892
What the hell is Darklurker even supposed to be? Just some guy who lurks in the dark?
>>340458434
>>340458197
Really? Orphan was really not that hard for me. I was prepping my asshole for rape but it took me a couple of tries and called it good.
Ludwig fucked me up bad. Literally tried 20+ times until i quit for a few days and came back and rocked it.
>>340458565
There is basically no lore on him, but some speculate that is any previous Chosen Undead who chose the Dark Lord ending and
>>340458565
one of the least explained things in the series
"Soul of what lurks in the Dark Chasm.
The Dark Chasm of Old is the remnant of some ancient, dissipated being."
It doesn't have a dark souls like the manus fragments, and it looks angelic.
It uses an attack that looks like the darksign, and the bosses appearance is angelic.
Similar to lothric in some levels, the dark sign sun's appearance and the growing angelic faith, but still far too little to draw any reasonable conclusion.
It's visually similar to a kings field boss, and the lead game designer for Dark Souls 2 helmed a lot of the early KF titles, and founded the studio, so it's probably likely that ultimately, the darklurker is just a useless reference.
But they could retroactively implement him into one of the dark souls 3 dlc's.
Possibly in Londor, which is related to the abyss.
>Dark Souls ФЭHДOMЫ
КИHOПOCTEP
>>340457892
I didn't know Tyrael was in Dark Souls.
>>340457892
Orphan of Kos
Blue Kool-aid
Nameless King
HMPH
M
P
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Hardest boss Fromsoft has ever done, because he's blatantly bullshit and broken.
In a cursed and defiled root layer 5 dungeon he's near impossible without like 60VIT or lucky as fuck parry skills.
>>340457892
shit guys no Kalameet? Blood Starved Beast from BB was pretty hard too on my first playtrough
>>340458434
Nameless King is EZ modo though once you've killed him once.
I remember dying like 5 times to him in NG and then killing him in 1 go on NG+
>>340458565
he is the Dark within you
Darkdiver Grandahl tell you after defeating Darklurker: "Young Undead, you've discovered the truest Dark within you.
A deep, deep Dark it is.
The Dark that we must all face.
We need the Abyss, more now than ever."
>>340458197
>bloodborne bosses
>souls series
>>340458565
>>340458857
>>340459017
>>340461817
I always assumed he was supposed to be what Humanity would eventually become should the Age of Fire finally end.
>>340461907
>Gas coin is hard meme
>>340462049
thats Hollows
> People had trouble with Darklurker
The area leading up to it was harder desu
No boss. Easy games.
>>340462147
Everyone says this, but it doesn't seem right at all. Gwyn can hollow, and he's not human. Hollowing seems like what happens to those linked to the fire when fades, not what happens when the Age of Dark starts.
>>340462206
Yeah I always found him to be easier than most of the bosses if you Goldpine your weapon.
>>340462206
>that rapier nigger
Honestly saying this as a guy who owns Bloodborne. Why do BB fags have to literally shit up Souls threads.
Like you do realize when you start mentioning BB you are literally isolating like all the people who play DS on PC and Xbox. They would literally have to buck up 400+ just to know what you're talking about.
>>340458197
Correct.
>>340458823
I was the exact opposite. I crushed Ludwig first try, but Orphan fucked in the ass for a week before I finally got him
>>340462330
it is stated that being Hollow is the true state of humanity
Gwyn ingame is a fucked up husk because he linked the fire I guess
>>340462427
>he doesn't have disposable income
What the fuck are you doing with your life if you can't even drop $400 on something you like?
>no one has posted 2kat yet
>people think fucking darklurker is harder than 2kat
>>340462731
Who?
>>340462731
ayyy lmao 2kats
>>340462676
$460 for a single game is a steep price, even with disposable income. I'd rather make an early car payment or go on a road trip.
I haven't gotten to any of the bosses in the Bloodborne DLC, but Martyr Logarius is my choice
LITERALLY impossible
>>340462731
The worst part is all the bullshit you have to go through to get to the boss. I didn't even attempt that shit without phantoms because I had next to no estus thanks to the fucking reindeer.
>>340458197
>LudwigI killed Ludwig on my first try. It was fun as fuck, and I was out of blood vials by the end, but I still did it
>>340462731
The run to them is harder than the bosses themselves.
Not saying that the fighting isn't difficult/great, but the Frigid Outskirts were designed by someone with a fetish for rage-induced insanity.
No Souls boss will be as hard as this one for sure, I see people usually say Orphan of Kos, and while Orphan was really hard, for me at least Fume Knight was much harder.
>>340464115
>dodge left : the boss
>thinks it was hard
Nigga wat
>>340464115
I love bosses that are deemed ludicrously difficult, it's the most fun I have in these games. Raime, Ludwig, Orphan, Flamelurker and Nameless, I had a fucking blast fighting them all
>>340463474
Holy shit, this guy. Even if he isn't the toughest overall, he's the first real hair-pulling fuckmachine in the seriesunless you cheese him with magic.
>>340463474
Beat him second try on my playthrough last week. Git gud.
>>340464184
His hitboxes are really funky though, and dodges are always pretty hard, especially when he does his arc attack. Not to mention the asburd damage he deals.
>>340464294
I must be the only person who didn't find the Nameless King that hard, I think the hardest part of his fight is the first phase, and when the dragon does the fire attack and you don't keep your distance, but once you get to the second phase it's pretty much a guaranteed fight. I've honestly had much more trouble with Dancer and Soul of Cinder.
>>340464115
>has insanely predictable windups on all attacks and a huge dead zone behind allowing you to just roll through all his shit
>second phase is actually easier as he loses his only fast attacks
>clunky, ugly as shit and unnatural animations that make him look really bad compared to actual Miyazaki games
i will never understand what the fuck are you people finding in him, he's just a typical, boring ds2 humanoid boss with all typical ds2 humanoid boss attack patterns
>>340464541
Cinder was only hard because I was on a media blackout for DS3, and had no idea what he was, so when his second phase rolled around and those 3 notes played, I was caught off guard, and his combo ripped my asshole open
>>340464115
He wasn't that hard. Manus from the Dark Souls 1 DLC is harder
Fume is literally dodge left and diagonally into the hilt for his magic slash attack.
>>340457892
Defiled Amygdala.
Any other answer is objectively wrong. Shitters need to play the chalice dungeons.
>>340463995
>fetish for rage-induced insanity
Are you implying thats a bad thing?
>>340458565
literally nobody, don't bother with ds2's "lore"
maybe he will get properly reused in ds3 dlc though as it seems that it will be angel-focused
>>340464707
>Manus from the Dark Souls 1 DLC is harder
I always see people say this but I don't understand why, I killed Manus on my first try without much trouble. But I'm not sure if I was overleved or what as I only found out about the DLC area after beating Gwyn.
>>340464804
amygdala is shit compared to level 5 c/r/d HMPH and his gramps
>>340458197
first post best post
good list anon
>>340462731
I have like 300 hours in DaS2 in 2 characters, and never even tried trying that shit, fuck coop bosses were a terrible idea. Gank squad was also pretty annoying.
>>340464961
HI Lucifer. See you haven't learned to parry yet.
>>340465038
I'm sorry but who is Lucifer? I don't browse /dsg/.
>>340463474
>block his attacks
>hit him once
>repeat
whooooooa so hard
>>340464812
>Are you implying thats a bad thing?
In the case of Frigid Outskirts, I'd say they took it a little too far.
>>340464707
>>340464914
Manus definitely isn't harder than a lot of DaS2 bosses, but that's not to say that he wasn't a better boss.
>>340465026
>never even tried trying that shit, fuck coop bosses were a terrible idea
You can't bitch about shit you've never tried and expect people to give a shit about your shit opinion.
>>340464804
If we are bringing in Chalices then its any of the following bosses in defiled chalices:
>headless bloodletting
>abhorrent
>ebrietas
>pthumerians
>>340465231
Don't you agree with me though? 2 cats, gang squad and blue smelter are by far the worst bosses of Dark Souls II, they're not even fun to fight.
>>340465208
unless you're using that purple flame shield or flash sweat you're gonna take a fair bit of chip damage anyway, maybe even guardbreak if you're not careful
>>340461532
fuck the pthumerian descendant
>>340465454
>blue smelter
what? he was piss easy I can't even comprehend how you'd put him in the same breath as 2 cats
The dark souls 2 bosses aren't necessarily hard but the runs up to some of the bosses were so rage inducing it was unreal. Dark souls 2 is honestly garbage.
>>340458197
Add chalice Amygdala to bullshit tier. He's a fucking one shot factory
the only hard fight in dark souls 3 is the double hotdog fight in anal rodeo.
>>340465646
I don't remember what shield I was using, but I was wielding the LS of Moonlight, maybe that's what made him pathetic?
>>340465454
King's Pets aren't too bad by yourself. Blue Smelter was cheap, but not too bad.
I'd argue that Gank Squad is the shittiest boss in the entire series though.
That said all of them are a lot of fun to do with friends. Even Frigid Outskirts was fun to do with two other people, because it actually felt like we were all fighting for dear life trying to get through a hostile wasteland.
>>340465687
Well maybe because I think they're all stupid? They're stupid for different reasons, but still stupid.
>>340465832
considering his magic resistance is pitiful, probably
>>340465804
They're hard until you realize you can kite one of them with arrows to the corner without having to aggro the other one.
Fume knight, obviously
>>340458197
>Ancient Dragon
>Roll in with 800+ fire resist
>Most bullshit fight becomes the most tedious and boring
>>340465893
I was completely blocking his attacks though, so I'm trying to blamde LSoM for the good blocking (I remember it blocked spells really well or something)
I also remember using the adjudicator shield a fucking lot
For my Bloodborne playthrough, Maria was the toughest, mostly because I suck at timing my shots, and was using a threaded cane. Dropped that shit for the LHB and Auger of Ebrietas, and she went down like a sack of potatoes
I don't know who is the toughest, but I can certainly tell you who is the most dissapoiting one.
>>340462572
the Gwyn hollow is special because it was him being used as fuel for so long he was just a husk. Human hollowing is something different that involves deaths and such.
My main problem with the whole 'Dark turns humans into hollows" thing is then there's no explanation for why Oolacil was full of crazed bloatheads.
I always took it as Dark was human emotions so having small amounts makes you sentient, none is a hollow, and too much drives you insane at the slightest provocation like Manus went.
>toughest good
Fume Knight, Orphan, Kalameet
>toughest bad
Smelter Demon, Ancient Dragon, and Sinh.
>>340458197
>Ancient Dragon
Funny thing, I died a lot in that boss fight, but not to the actual boss, but to that fucking chain wielding serpert man.
>>340465687
>Magic user
>Attack
>lolno.jpg
>>340466328
dunno what you were expecting. fighting giants in souls games is just boring
FUME KNIGHT
I DON'T KNOW WHY
I CAN BEAT EVERY OTHER BOSS IN THE SERIES JUST FINE
JUST
NOT
HIM
>>340466332
No dude, ALL the lord races, the Gods, the witches, the dead, they were all hollows that found the souls of lord. Only humans have humanity that let's them derive power from the dark and being hollow. Remember, you get body form by BURNING humanity not by taking it in.
>>340466051
the moonlight sword can't be blocked but does have good magic blocking, decent stability considering it's a weapon too
adjudicator shield is adjudicator shield, but iirc it's fire resistance sucked major dick
>>340464115
stop using lock on
thats ds2 gimmick stop locking on
>>340466020
Ancient Dragon is a terrible fight no matter what. Whereas fights like Ruin Sentinels and Gargoyles become easier the better you get at the game, eventually become a normal encounter, or even an easy boss in the case of Sentinels, the Ancient Dragon is just shit no matter what strategy you use.
>>340458197
honestly i love ancient dragon because you have to understand zoning to beat him. literally beat fume knight in one try because i learned how to bait certain boss attacks. Bed of chaos is just absolute unfun bullshit.
I dont know if Chalice Dungeons count but defiled Watchdog and Amygdala are harder than the main bosses, if only because they are a battle of patience.
>>340466961
>honestly i love ancient dragon because you have to understand zoning to beat him
wut
>>340466961
The only thing that boss teaches you is to sniff toes.
>>340466473
Different game.
Ancient Dragon is the piece of shit where everything one shots you in DaS2. It's the poster boy for difficulty over challenge and a perfect representation of how utterly bullshit some of the bosses are in DaS2 compared to those found in other games.
Ancient Wyvern is the meme boss in DaS3 in Archdragon peak
>>340466828
I've heard a theory that Gods just used a light soul in opposition but yeah just head cannon there.
As for actual questions I still don't get:
-Why does Dark in DS1 make insane bloatheads but in DS3 it just makes you hollow out.
-If Humanity can be burned, how is the Age of Dark even a threat? Just burn more Dark as fuel.
>>340467176
Ah ok, I never played DaS2 because everybody says it's shit.
>>340465736
Dark Souls 2 isn't even that bad though
Why do DS fans get so autistic over DS2? Red pill me
>>340458197
Namless King has to be the most overrated souls boss.
He was the hardest boss in DaS3 for sure, but there really weren't any hard bosses at all in the game. His first phase is a joke, his second phase is really easy to read and dodge, and even then can be dealt with easily with a greatshield. Honestly the only bad thing about him was the high damage he did, which probably threw people off.
>>340467176
He's difficult for a lot of reasons though, primary of them being Lore-related. He existed to keep Nashandra from the Throne of Want.
Of course that doesn't excuse the shit design, but at least there's a reason for the difficulty other than being difficult for the sake of being difficult.
>>340467063
stay x distance from boss so boss does x attack. like stay the fuck away from fume knight so all he does is his shitty lunge/jump attacks that leave him wide open. don't know if zoning is the right term
>>340467063
He's saying in order to beat him, you had to understand how to bait certain attacks by standing in certain positions. He's a pushover if you make sure to stay in front of his face, because he'll keep doing the fire breath sweep.
Burnt ivory king
>Get assraped by those annoying fucks while the knights you have been looking for everywhere do nearly useless attacks but seal the portals
>ohgodmyestus.gif
>He finally cames out
>20 feet long magical dildo
Defiled Watchdog
Defiled Amygdala is also pretty tough but she can be cheesed
>>340467537
that's more AI abuse than zoning
>>340467731
Ivory King wasn't that hard to be honest, but I'll be damned if it wasn't a good fight. Quite possibly the best boss from DaS2.
>>340467850
personally i hated the swarm gimmick it had going without the knights, even with them there's generally one portal left open because the knights are little bitches and might die before sealing one
the actual boss was cool though
>>340467537
>>340467694
I think zoning is trying to limit the space the enemy can move, like for example in fighting games zoning means using fireballs to limit how much of the space your adversary have. In that case it's more like RNG manipulation.
>>340467517
DS2's theme was mostly about slow and quiet decay which is neat in a lore sense but in every other sense means 'boring'. Most of the bosses are humanoid but also fairly boring (DS3 has humanoids that are still striking like the Boreal knights or the spear guy).
Coming off of DS1, people compare and notice the flaws more like how the level design is really shaky (climb up a windmill and appear near a lava mountain.)
>>340467530
People keep spouting this shit but DaS bosses excluding dlc were much easier. DeS doesn't even come close either , being even easier than DaS. Das2 had the hardest bosses in souls overall Imogen, das3 being second.
>>340457892
honestly even though it's a meme answer, the boss I had most trouble with in any of these games was O&S
>>340468053
Yeah but that shit has a lore explanation at least. (Going hollow and losing your mind so geography seems weird)
>>340468053
Eh, I still enjoy the shit out of DS2. While it definitrly has it's quirks I still think it's a solid game.
Didn't have a rough dev period and with a less experienced team on top of that?
The DLCs show a notable improvement, and SotFS is also much better.
Unrelated: anybody have a nice ENB/reshade for DS3 they'd reccomend? I can't handle the ugly washed out look the game has in a lot of areas.
From personal experience I'd say that all the hardest bosses in Souls game come from DLCs, so I'm sure Dark Souls III won't be any different.
>>340468537
Only head canon though. It's not like you suddenly start meeting people who claim to have known you for years that you no longer know. It's more likely just bad level design.
>>340468646
I heard people were being softbanned by using ENB in DaSIII, you might wanna avoid those for now.
>>340467176
People keep calling the Ancient Wyvern a boss but I don't really say he qualifies.
Sure he has a lifebar but he doesn't even drop a boss soul
>>340463474
Either use magic or a Purple Flame Shield and the fight becomes very manageable.
>>340468537
>>340468763
The lore explanation is that time-space is fucked in Drangleic. Not that you're going hollow. Places seem to be connected by how their related to one another, rather than actualy physical paths.
>>340468965
But that's also because the level design was fucked sideways from its original layout.
>>340468965
And the problem with that one is still that it can be much more easily explained as just shitty level design, like how they slap a bonfire right next to a shortcut in the forest.
You also never encounter an area with clear impossible space. Like rooms/areas that are different depending how you enter them or being able to actually see fucked up landscapes. All of it is out of the way and more easily explained by them just slapping areas together.
None of the other games are as badly warped as DS2 geographically and when BB does impossible space, it's clearly intending to do so by placing an ocean at the top of a watch tower located in a dream.
>>340467176
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMEEEE hahahaha good one! Good post! Great! Keep posting! Thank you! "Meme," that's great!!
>>340467251
The Dark in DS1 you're referring to isn't the "real" dark. Oolacile got fucked up by Manus' humanity and the Abyss.
Abyss/Manus /= The Dark
>>340470340
Niggah, that's what I've been fucking hoping would get confirmed in DS3.
Manus influenced Dark = corrupted with insanity and intense emotion that fucks up everything it touches.
Natural Dark = The natural absence of flame, just a calm stillness. Like how the grave keeper just wants the dead to be left to rest.
>>340458197
>Nameless King
>Hard
pick one
Seriously though, he telegraphs the fuck out of his moves once he's on foot. The first phase is the "harder" phase and the only hard part about that is making sure you can get some hits on the fucking dragon's neck before it takes off again.
>>340463474Purple flame shield or gitgud.
