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Fuck this artificial difficulty bullshit. I'm a veteran
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Fuck this artificial difficulty bullshit. I'm a veteran of the Souls series (you know, the game considered by many top gamers to be one of the, if not the most, difficult series in video gaming) and I can safely say this game is just unfair.

Healing takes WAY too long and leaves you extremely vulnerable. Your potions and supplies should refill once you rest in town and more than one boss shouldn't appear in the same zone.
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>tfw you can't get hyped for X because you're burned out on MonHun
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>tfw no MonHun on vita
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I don't have the infinite patience to start grinding another monster hunter game. I don't know how 13 year old me got to the 7 star quests in the original.
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>>340451182
>I don't know when to heal
Stay mad
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git gud bruh
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>>340451730
Styles are a neat change of pace.
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>>340451182
>that whole first sentence

Thanks bruh i needed that laugh
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>>340451182
You're shit at the game and you need to return to your overwatch babby shit.
Fuck off and die.
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>>340451182
I always love these thread openers.
>>340451730
>No G Rank
Why even bother
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post your main weapon and your favorite monster
for me it's
>switchaxe
>zinogre
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>>340451182
Yeah, learn when to heal, und also learn to use dungbombs. Filthy casual.
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>>340453585
>no G rank
This is what it's holding me, bur if feel like we're being extortioned here because I can sure you that if some MH game underperform CAPCOM'S standards we can kiss good bye to the series.
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>>340453585
Cause multi varient bullshit
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anyway to play this on pc?
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>>340451182
>veteran of the Souls series (you know, the game considered by many top gamers
Ah you lost me there. Needs more build up and a more sparsely written brackets.

Its always best to start these threads with as much butthurt as humanly possible. that way you instantly weed out the LS users.
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>>340451730
I want underwater fights to go away
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>>340451916
You got here quick friend
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>>340454902
Wait
So water fights are back or what?
Because I heard they weren't
Yet I'd seen videos of the first area of MHTri and thought "How the fuck is this gonna work?"
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>>340454902
Why in the name of the fuck did they came back in first place? Goddamn CAPCOM do some feedback nobody wants to deal with that bullshit ever again.
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>>340451182
>artificial difficulty
>considered by many top gamers to be one of the, if not the most, difficult series in video gaming
>this game is just unfair
>Healing takes WAY too long
>Your potions and supplies should refill
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>>340453776
BEST MONSTER
I use LS and GS
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>>340454902
>>340455146
Underwater combat hasn't been a thing since 3U.
Stop pretending or get educated.
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OP here, do people really not understand that this was supposed to be a MH thread? Anyone wanna hunt? Haven't played in months and want to get excited for X.
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>>340451916
What's a vita? I never heard of a system called that.
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>>340451182
>He fell for the artificial difficulty meme.
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>>340451182
> Wants to play souls
> Plays not souls
> refuses to learn non souls
> Artificial difficulty out of stupidity
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>>340455291
There are three types of replies.
>people that know it's how the threads are started
>people replying ironically
>legitimate idiots triggered by the post
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>>340451182
>Your potions and supplies should refill once you rest in town

They do. It's called the Wyporium. He duplicates bugs, mushrooms and seeds (for Armorskins/Demondrugs etc.). Plus you can buy potions for cheap on-mass from any vendor.

>Healing takes WAY too long and leaves you extremely vulnerable

Exactly. I always hate that you have to flex a bit after taking a potion but it teaches you how to time your heals and space yourself from attacks. Plus, if you're playing online it's pretty normal to just leave the area, heal at the door and go back in to join your team.

>and more than one boss shouldn't appear in the same zone.

That's what Dung Bombs are for. They make one monster flee (usually).

Honestly, all of your issues have solutions in the game. They just aren't given to you. If you ARE a veteran of Souls games (which are not that hard, and are certainly not as difficult combat-wise as MonHun) then you should know the value of finding solutions for yourself. MH4U is objectively good, and these petty complains are practically completely unfounded.
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>>340455214
Recently started Portable 3rd with a few friends. I have 700 hours in MH3U and they have no experience at all.

I was shitting my pants after the "WARNING!" sign popped up when I was doing the village Bulldrome quest. That fucking music and atmosphere when I had no clue what was going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ucuX7359E
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>blabla dumb bait bullshit
Just say you want a monster hunter thread instead of being a fucking faggot

What are ya all niggas hunting
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>>340456347
Another note on the Wypo Guy; he also duplicates Honey, which is retardedly valuable (Catalysts, mega Armorskins, Mega Potions etc.) After one day of guild quests with my friend and three 10-trip exchanges for Honey on the go constantly, I had over 270 Honey ready to use, and now I'm never below 300 Mega Potions or 60 Mega Nutrients.
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whats the best weapon and why is it the gun lance
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>>340456347
en-masse

Also OP is bating you fags
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>>340456541
Just got done with some Gogmazios online. I've been getting in to GS and want to upgrade Monument of Lament.

Was doing Chameleos earlier. That thing is a bitch, but the fade out effect on the weapons looks awesome, especially the Insect Glaive.
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>>340456541
faggot
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>>340456940
Is that a DLC monster?
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>>340453585
>>340454172
have you guys never played a MH without g rank? high rank difficulty is scaled up to make up for it. I haven't played X though so it might be piss easy for all i know
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>>340453346
Hownewru?
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>>340455205
Newfag has been spotted
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>>340453776

I will always have a tender spot in my heart for Rathalos, I struggled so much with him in Monster Hunter Freedom that once I beat him for the first time I completely fell in love with the series.
Favorite weapon is Greatsword, Longsword a close second.

>>340451182
OP, your bait is weak. If you want a MonHun thread just say so.
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>>340451730
That's why I've been waiting for the western release before I play it, even though my 3DS is cfw'd already
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>>340451182
>completely ignored the tutorial in 3U
>first game so no background knowledge
>ended up going to port tanzia with my shitty starting weapons and hunting azuros with no supplies besides whats in the supplies box and what I find in the wild
My favorite hunt, it would be easy for me now but back then I sucked hard.
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>>340456497
I started the series with 4u
Wish I could get my friends into it, but they've got pretty normie taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auE4CYwszco
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My only major gripe with the series other than it being mostly on handhelds is having to chase monsters around the map. It makes difficult hunts that much more of a tedious chore. Even if you know where the monster is because you tagged it, you still have to travel there.
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It's always fun when people play Dark Souls and think it's hard as balls, then they decide to give Monster Hunter a try.

As a "veteran" of the Monster Hunter series, Dark Souls was so fucking boring that I didn't even bother to keep playing after ending it the first time.
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>>340458315
How would you compare the difficulty?
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>>340453346
Kek look at this new fag
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>>340451182
>claims to be a Souls veteran
>somehow doesn't understand the basics of timing, observation, and opportunity

Now I know you're full of shit.
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>>340458664
Not if he summoned his way through the Souls games
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>>340458017
I think the idea there is that you gather stuff as you go. Especially in High and G-Rank, mining/catching bugs and farming for actually decent talismans (Handicraft +7, I'm looking at you) is a big part of making great armor sets and weapons with useful effects for your playstyle.
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>>340458315
My first Souls game was Bloodborne and I had no issues with the bosses besides the Daughter of the Cosmos or whatever. I then blew through Demon Souls and Dark Souls 3. I haven't bothered to go play DS1 or DS2.

Consistently having a pissed off Rajang trying to pummel you for as long as they stay in the zone was much more anxiety inducing than any shit in Dark Souls.
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>>340458664
Return to reddit, newfriend.
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>>340458396
Not that poster, but I don't think it really is comparable. DS is about blocking and attacking at the right time, and the combat can be as fast or slow as you want it to be depending upon how hard you're turtling, or how agressive you choose to be.

Monster Hunter is more about positioning, prior preparation and reading the monster and predicting what attack you'll need. I know a guy who can face a charging Rath with a hammer, and while it's running at him swing the hammer around and essentially whiff a bunch of hits - by the time the monster reaches him the last big hit twats it in the head and stuns it. You don't really do those kinds of reads in DS, it's more reactionary.
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>>340458079
Damn, Lavasioth's getting all the attention lately
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>>340459148
DaS is a dungeon exploring game while MH is a boss rush game. Should've stopped here.
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>>340458664
>responded to obvious bait
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>>340458396
Depends. Dark Souls is a lot more about being careful, but most things won't 2-3 shot you like in MH unless you spend zero points in Vit or something. Difficulty depends a ton on the monster or the boss.

>>340459353
You can still compare the bosses somewhat since they operate under similar core mechanics.
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You're aware there's already a Monhun thread up, right?
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>>340459516
Bosses in DaS is a mere 5% of the game.
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Je suis monte!
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>>340459353
That's the style of the games and what the main gameplay loops consist of, yeah I agree, but he was asking about comparative difficulty. In that case it mostly comes down to comparisons in combat, which was what I attempted to give him.
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>>340459785
No DaS's main "difficulty" comes from the level design
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>>340459836
I'd say the bosses are harder unless you blunder blindly around every corner and eat shit from every single trap and ambush.
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>>340459836
Arguably yes, but I think people struggle more with, and have an easier time explaining, boss difficulty, which can be compared to monsters in MonHun.

And again, fighting monsters in DS is more about reacting; waiting, letting them whiff a hit or rolling into them and counter hitting once or twice. In MonHun you have to set things up for yourself since turtling is going to get you nowhere, or even steamrolled against an aggressive monster. Traps, dung bombs, poisoned meat, IG mounts, sonic bombs, blunt weapon stuns, tail cuts for exhaustion etc. all mean that you're being pro-active in finding ways to chip the monster down and provide ways for your team to have a solid 8 seconds of whaling on it. The difficulty is different.
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>>340451182
> artificial difficulty
> souls veteran
Is this a new pasta? This is some gay as fuck shit your saying op. Go do what you do best and suck someones dick thata lubricated by your tears. Bitch nigga
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>>340460485
>He doesn't know the tradition of making MH threads
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>>340460485
hownew.ru
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I think mon hun's base evasion should have more i frames. Too often you'll find yourself in a position where you can't do anything.
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>>340460871
there's already evasion+3 for noobs
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>>340460871
There is one thing you can do.

Get Evade ya pussy.
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>>340460361
Even the defensive weapons like Lance are more about using your different methods of mobility and defense (backhops/sidehops, guard advances, counters) to get in a monster's face and fucking stay there at all costs.

>>340460871
Get Evade +1/2/3 and Evade Extender
The panic dive (run away from the monster with your weapon away and hit dodge) is invincible for the entire longass animation. There's even a skill that lets you panic dive TOWARDS monsters.
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>>340451182
desu apex monsters were a chore (didn't get lucky enough with your wystones? leave the area and wait for a cooldown cause you literally can't hit the monster now WOW SO FUN)

also guild quest weapons completely breaking game progression and making builds even more luck-based (as if charms with random stats weren't enough)

remove randomized charms and guild weapons, and apex monsters, in short. They are overly grindy and unfun.
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>>340451182
>one of the, if not the most, difficult series in video gaming

Dude. Any simple roguelike or even some roguelites on steam can tell this sentence to fuck right off.
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>>340453346
>>340454109
>>340455205
>>340455563
>>340455469
>>340456347
>>340458664
>>340460485
[you caught a newfag]
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>>340461028
We call the panic dive the Superman Jump.

Supermanning through a laser or Gogmazio's goop vomit and coming out unscathed is such a satisfying feeling.
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>>340461135
Apex is gone in X/Generations I believe. Now there's outraged monsters that are stronger on certain attacks.
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>>340461258
Superman Dives always have some wacky reactions when you're caught between a monster and a wall.

My personal favorite one was in FU where I dove in such a way that it looked like I took one step of a Blango, then jumped off of Blangonga's back for an extra long dive because they had both jammed me against a wall.
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>>340461258
Sorry, my friends always called it a panic dive, they're the ones that got me into MH. It's hard to shake what you're used to calling shit sometimes.
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>>340461423
Really, as long as it has "Dive" somewhere in the name, or makes some connection between the action and the animation, it's all good.

Everyone has their own nomenclature for these things.
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>>340455374
I think thats a really old windows OS anon
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Well, the subreddit universally calls it the superman dive and I'm comfortable with that.

Anyone looking to start a hunt today? New save, so HR6 currently.
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>>340453776
>play any third gen game
>can completely shit on zinogre
>play any fourth gen game
>get completely shit on by any zinogre even if nothing changed, gold zinogre is literally fuck you
wtf
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>>340461790
Since the Monument of Lament is literally a glowing war-monument on a stick, I can see this being accurate.
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>>340461952
how did brachy become an olympic sprinter in the time between 3U and 4U?
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>>340451182
So here's the deal.

Souls is hard. Monster Hunter is harder.

This is from a vet of both series (plat trophy on all souls, HR999 twice in MH4U).

The emphasis in MH is on learning attack patterns of bosses, and maximizng the risk/reward of getting greedy.

If you'll note, MH is balanced around multiplayer. Introduce a player 2 in Souls, and the boss battle gets severely trivialized. This is the key difference.

Also the emphasis in MH is fighting the monster/boss. In Souls, getting to a boss can be harder.

All in all, both games provide rule sets and you have to adapt. Souls is more forgiving. Monster Hunter is tougher.

Just wait until you clear GRank and start grinding lvl 140 GQs with randoms that can't handle Apex Zinogre. You'll understand then.
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>>340453776
HH
Also Zin.

It was also by the time I fought him that I realized my status as horny main.
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>>340462183
DaS is harder because of PvP.
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>>340461135
game needs less RNG and an actual endpoint (there's always DLC quests anyways, what the fuck, we don't need infinite randomized quests)

especially because capcom is just going to shell out another game in a year, they don't need to be 1000 hours long due to randomized drops.
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>>340462183
>wanting to run apex GQs for eternity

literally delete them, they're so fucking tedious
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>>340462514
I kind of agree with the idea of an end-point. I was so used to filling out all my quests with red ticks that I was really caught off-guard by the cycling quests at G-3 that you wouldn't always ''çomplete', and that wouldn't usually turn up again for a while. Really made it feel like you couldn't look through your quests and feel properly finished.
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>>340462183
>MH is balanced around multiplayer
Not really. Yesterday in a room of 4 randoms we killed a azure rath in less then 2 minutes. Sure 140s might still be tricky but normal monsters don't stand a chance against a full party.
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>>340462991
especially if they have broken GQ weapons from 140s
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>>340462350
Lmao have you seen a 140 rajang or teostra?
5-20 minutes of sustained rape from all angles.
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>>340462350
Uh no. It's not like you can get invaded during a boss battle (unless you count shit like Mirror Knight). Souls will never be harder. Mechanically it just doesn't apply. Also you have the option to play offline. The only option to not get owned by Apex Jho is to not fight it.

>>340462635
They're not that tedious unless you're hoping for loot. If you hunt for the thrill of the hunt and seek fun quests and not just double Rajang or Teostra, you'll enjoy it. Regular quests are too easy and you're not required to learn much about the monster attack patterns.
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>>340463098
Why would anyone who has grinded 140s enough to get a freaking broken rare 10 relic go back to normal 4 men hunts and expect any challenge?
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>>340462514
You could say it ends as soon as you get a top tier weapon.

Or you could just keep playing for hundreds of hours because what else do you have to do, faggot?
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>>340463257
Apex are shit because of bouncing. Checkmate.
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>>340462991
I meant balanced around 2 player. 3 and 4 is excess and can break a normal fight, especially with over leveled gear. The moment a second target is introduced in Souls, the boss falls over dead with no effort.
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>>340463257
>play the game not to progress in the game
yes because i want to play for 3000 hours instead of 300
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Hunting monsters is pretty good but the games always put up too many barriers.
Would love to see a more arcadey MH spinoff without the boring low rank quests and gathering/paintballing.

Have never been able to convince anyone else to get into MH because nobody wants to sit through the hours of shitty early quests before the fun starts.
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>>340463365
Get more top tier weapons
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>>340463212
Yeah and also a point here.

Hunts range from 5 mins (incredible time) to 20 mins (terrible time).

All Souls bosses are what, 2-5 mins max?
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>>340453776
>GS n GL
>Brachy
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>>340463365
completionist-ing games makes me want to get the best weapons

when the best weapons are completely randomized, the game has no endpoint

which makes it impossible to finish

which triggers me as someone who wants to be a completionist.

it's not that hard to have a real progression and still be fun.
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>>340463364
>MH multiplayer is balanced
>not really
>WHY THE FUK WOULD IT BEE BALANCED
Even if you aren't the first guy butting into replies without understanding the context makes you look like an idiot.
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Post Guildcards
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>>340463975
Tell me that's a fake.
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>>340451730
I'm scared of this. I haven't touched the prev games for several months now so I can get less sick of it and I still like MH, but I still already feel like puking just seeing the title screen.
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>>340464075
You tell me
http://www.e-capcom.com/ec/srDispProductListProductLink/doProductLink/1/1/A10006002/12/10/srDispProductList/
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>>340463412
You bounce on resist zones. You have to learn to hit the weak zones where you don't bounce, to get it out of Apex. Apex or not, these are the zones you should be targeting. It's a day and night difference to unload on a Deviljho's enraged torso rather than his legs/arms. You literally do double damage there.

Or use Wystone Drive to not bounce.

Sorry man, git gud, etc.

>>340463457
You're commenting about the endgame. The endgame is to what, to get you weapons that are 10% better, to fight the monsters more efficiently? The ones you've killed 500x and know in and out?

Souls games are 40-200 hour endeavors tops. That hour range barely puts you at mastery of 2-3 weapons in Monster Hunter, and likely somewhere around HR200 or less.

Again I've devoted a shit ton of time to both series. The OP is complaining about basic mechanics. MH goes way deeper than that and gets harder.
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>>340463443
The only time to have a 3-4 man team is if your grinding for that 0.01% drop.
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>>340451182
This guy gave me a good laugh, ok who wants to talk about our favorite Monsters now
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>>340463924
Are you retarded? He said one of the reasons the mp is unbalanced is because gear that is locked behind a harder tier of quests make easier tier of quests even easier, and I said it's bullshit, cause it is.

It's like saying that the mp is unbalanced because you can trivialize Low Rank quests by doing them with High Rank gear.
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>>340464287
i don't give a fuck about souls, i'm simply bitching about guild quests and apex throughout the thread because they made me quit MH4U before finishing it.

now i will be a nostalgiafag for 3U, thanks capcom
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>>340464251
Holy shit, there's a whole slew of new ones.
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>>340463975
I need this
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I'd buy this one just to watch it burn.
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>>340451182
REMOVE GRAVIOS
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>>340464251
Next purchase
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>>340453776
>GL
>Brachydios
At first I thought GL was a terrible matchup against Brachydios, but after learning its patterns it's becoming a fairly entertaining game of block and shoot.
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>>340464620
Fucking Garuga
Will they ever fix its hitboxes? Will they ever give it more than negative frames of startup on half of its fucking attacks?
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>>340464664
Play MHX my friendo
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>no Quropeco
>no Agnaktor
>no Uragaan
>no Volvidon
>HEY GUYS LET'S MAKE A PLUSHIE OF NARGA'S VARIANT

Fuck Capcom's merch guys.
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>>340464717
Using a normal Lance against Brachy is the best shit ever
Only problem is breaking the horn, but when I need specific breaks I just bring my GS anyways.
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>>340453776
Dual blades

Ivory lagiacrus
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>get hype for X
>remember I have no irl friends that play
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>>340464497
The endgame is designed to be tedious. It's the hardest possible challenge in the series yet. I don't know if Rajang dicked you over when you were guard Lancing or if Yian Garuga's instant charge one-shot your gunner, but it's a constant learning experience.

The gear is just icing on the cake. I can now put monsters to sleep within one demon dance with my DBs
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Don't mind me, just best monster coming through.
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>>340464620
You plug your ears even though your miles away from it
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>>340464620
>throw it into the fire
>he roars and insta charges you
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>>340451182
Lol wut
Souls series isn't difficult if you learn how to play the game
Something it sounds like you're incapable of doing
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>>340464859
no, it was more like i literally couldn't finish a quest because no one could finish 140 quests that gave good drops without them carting 3 times

(even non-randoms)

and if no one can run the mission, and it's literally impossible to run 1-man, that's not a challenge, that's just bullshit in general.
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>>340465109
Every time.
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>>340465109
>being this stupid
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>>340451916
kys my man
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>>340451182
gr8 b8 m8
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>>340465109
OK hold up
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>>340465158
forgot to say that at that point, i'm basically wasting 30 minutes for other people to fail the quest continuously, which is a huge waste of my time, and not something I want to continue doing for a length of time.
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my favorite part of G rank is all the new armor
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>>340465109
welcome to /V/ newfriend
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>>340451182
I thought it was pretty funny.
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>>340465383
>/V/
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>>340465521
>trying the old "reverse double bait"

no one is falling for that shit family
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>>340465623
>no is falling for that
>just fell for it
nice bait
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>>340453776
>Switchaxe and Insect Baguel, also a bit of longsword and DualBlades
>Brachy
I don't care how dumb the switchaxe is, I love swinging that stupid slab of iron and machinery.
Also got a soft spot for Great sword.
Been practicing gunner, Still don't feel either bowguns, doing ok as Bow.
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>>340464731
Nah man. He's broken that way. The only real solution is expecting the instant charge or beak slam and I-frame dodging with evasion to keep up with his offense.

Probably the only boss I recommend evasion for. It's sort of like tremor resist for Rajang or Deviljho (if not using a shield). Also get standard earplugs for him for maximum ease.
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>>340466321
I love switchaxes but they ruined it in MHX.
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>>340451182
I hope that eventually there's a way to yiff all the monsters.
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>>340466735
Evasion doesn't help a ton when the one step forward he takes for his peck attacks does the full damage of the peck if you even brush his leg, even if you were standing safely under his dick the whole time.
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>>340466749
how so? Im having a blast with aerial SA+EnergyArt
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>>340466749
It's more of a Forget The Axe now. I hate how they balance some stuff in the game.

>switch axe too stronk
>gimp all MVs
>switch axe too weak now
>make changes in mechanics that only benefit sword mode
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>>340464664
>not posting the team magma girl
one job
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>>340467227
Because I play it to switch forms, not spam sword mode. I suppose I can main CB without feeling bad now that it's been nerfed in mhx.
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>>340458664
>3ds webm
>720p

For what purpose
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>>340466876
>look up MH lewd art
>it's all monster girls or girls in armor
>there isn't any art of the monsters
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>>340451182
GIT
Out

Seriously, there's no hope for you
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>>340451916
I actually miss you sometimes.

Just killed two monsters in one lvl 3 charge for the first time, feels good.
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>>340467954
GIT
pull
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>>340468074
I love these sort of things.
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>>340467905
E621
Search for Monster_hunter
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>>340455214
fuck why is he so cute
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>>340466959
I mentioned to anticipate it. Evasion does help. There are patterns, and rolling when he can do it will clear you 100% and not get you wrecked. Try a hit, delay your roll, and then roll around it. He tends to lunge after a tail spin and will almost always do it after a fireball.

Try fighting him more than twice man. Or try fighting him by just dodging and not getting hit. The holes reveal themselves. I'm biased because I have maybe 200 hunts on him, but he's not as tricky as many think. He just hits hard and fast, and he seems to be open for an attack, and then he lunges and kills you.
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>>340451182
You're into Souls and you think Monhun is artificial difficulty?

That's funny, because I'm into MH and just picked up and dropped Souls 2 because of how unfun and stressful I found it.

>healing
Figure out timing and distance for taking your sippy, just like your FROM games. If that's too much to ask, run to the next area and heal up before going back to where the monster is.
>potions and supplies
lrn2farm/multiply items. Or just make dosh and buy the potions.

>more than one boss
Nigga that's free parts. Get some shitbombs if it's that big a deal. If you're into Souls you should know how to handle multiple enemies.

This really amuses me because I just bought MH4 last week and have been concerned that they toned down the game's difficulty because I've been blitzing through it compared to the time I had with 3U.

Assuming you're still around, OP, what weapon are you using?
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>>340468074
New 3DS is a legit complaint
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>>340468758
Puppy.
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>>340453776
>Hammer
>Barroth
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>>340468424
iggi does things to my dick
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>>340451182
Dark Souls is hard, but it's not that hard once you get the hang of how the games work. I know this has to be a meme from the "top gamers" comment, but responding for discussion.

Monster hunter is similar, the only really BS things are challenge monsters like Apex Rajang. The rolling, item use, and weapon sheathing is intentionally clunky, it makes you learn have to learn timing to be effective.
You need to know weak spots, proper gear, and teamwork if online. It's much more complex than dark souls.

>>340453776
>Longsword, although I use all of the melee weapons pretty frequently aside from Switchaxe and charge blade.
>Najarala
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>>340468297
Is SnS that bad or is this just bait?
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>>340468758
Lightning pupper
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>>340469632
It's not bad if you like taking all fifty minutes to kill the monster.
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>>340453776
>Charge Blade
>Narga
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>>340469025
CPP is cheap as shit used and hella comfy to hold.
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>>340469632
Learn to abuse the ability to use items unsheathed and you can do crazy shit like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjPcOfJnKiA
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>>340470182
Shit, what's the next easiest wepon?
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>>340451182
Trying way too hard.
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>>340451916
shit i wish i could've been here sooner
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>>340470506
I used SnS as main wep for a long while
didn't know you could use items unsheathed until high rank
Never did the SnS tutorial because I never felt I needed it

>>340470410
I want a dog-sized nargacuga and zinogre as pets
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>>340470870
Lucky me, I already have a cat sized nargacuga.
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>>340470514
Easy? I dunno. Something with a shield maybe.
You're gonna have to get good at some point anyhow, so just switch around with weapons during the bullshit early missions and see what you like. I'm a dirty whore with my weapon use, but I tend to stick to Hammer (powerful, but good for dodging and slamming faces is hella satisfying), Lance (kinda like boxing--lots of sidestepping, blocking, countering and back hopping while poking as much as you can) and Greatsword, which I don't recommend starting with as it's all about running around like a bitch until you get a good chance to get that superhit in. Both Hammer and GS are all about getting in, getting your hits in and sheathing that shit and getting the fuck out.

On an unrelated note, does anyone have tips for playing Bow or LBG viably?
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>>340453776
>bug stick
>Dhisufiroa from frontier
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>>340451182
>I'm a veteran of the Souls series
>Monster Hunter

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>340471261
>First time getting to fight lv9999 Dhisu and seeing phase 3
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>>340467529
>>340467264
The energy replenishment art would be so much better if axe could actually use phial.
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>>340471184
3k hunts with bow here, first thing is keep moving. Move, move, move.

Don't sit in one place and fire at its side or whatever you're facing. Stay mobile, always be charging, and aim for the weak points. Usually the face but it varies.

You'll get a feel for the critical distance eventually and your aim will get faster with time. Be accurate first, the speed comes next with practice.
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>>340470514
>>340469632
>>340469632
It's just bait. SnS is good. It's just that you're going to be making a lot of them for status and elemental matching.
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>>340464664

> Not using bowgun with pierce rounds.

>Not using Mind's Eye

Never understood why Gravios is considered hard.
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>>340471704
Samefagging to add some stuff, tweak the bow controls to your preference. Change one thing at a time, play around for a bit, then readjust. You'll get your perfect setup eventually.
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>>340457161
I've heard that end game is around lvl 126 GQ difficulty.
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>>340471805
It's not that he's hard, everytime I fight him the fucker just stands in lava spamming the fire beam. I dont gun, so it just drags on and on
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If Rape Ape isn't your favorite monster you need to rethink your existence.
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>>340471968
>FU Dual G Black Grav
>Old Volcano
>They have a seemingly 90% chance of getting in the zone exits on either side and doing nothing but spamming sweeps

The deadliest game of double dutch ever invented.
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>>340471704
>>340471851
Thanks. I suppose I should work on this solo so I don't end up making my Hunting Horn playing gf carry me.

Couple questions: what's your preferred control setup, and what skills do you recommend working towards?

I just hit HR 4 in 4U if that's relevant at all.
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>>340453776
>Hammer
>Zinogre

Hammer is so fun, and I heard it got a buff in the new game.
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>>340462183
They're both clunky crap. Monhun just punishes you harder for wanting to actually play the damn game. The problem is the controls and available mechanics conflict with the monsters mobility, you're basically left waiting...and waiting and waiting. Striking a few times at key points and waiting and waiting. I play Monhun a lot but seriously, I dont know why this shit community cant see why people have LEGITIMATE complaints against it.
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>tfw you use evasion lancing for the first time

Ho-ly shit. Is it worth going for +3? I'm trying it on a tigrex, +2 can go through everything he does except the charge, if I hop back through him
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>>340472790
+2 is fine, but +3 is really fun.
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>>340472610
Sounds like you're shit at observation. Gotta figure out them openings son.

>>340472790
Please describe this style of lancing for me.
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>>340472937
there a skill called evasion, that increases your invicibility frames (think dark souls). Basically you attack, when the monster attacks you hop, iframe the monster's attack and keep attacking
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>>340465284
Fucking kek
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>>340451916

I'll never know if it's actually him every time anymore.
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>>340473218
And this takes less stamina than shielding/countering attacks?

Also, (and this directed at any other lance users), is countering particularly powerful compared to other lance attacks?
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>>340472937
There are a lot more opening yes, I'm saying this from a viewpoint of when I was new. It's frustrating because you want to play the game and not wait and wait then get bowled over because the game decided to give you and the monsters conflicting mechanical advantages.

"Git gud" will always apply, but so do the criticisms of new players. The game wears on your patience unless you like a lot of grind and a lot of time following monsters around.
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>>340460485
Nice projection lol
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>>340454902
But they've been gone since 3U and aren't coming back because you fucking negros had to whine like little bitch faggots.

Finally an interesting mechanic and it was thrown away in favor of LOL MOUNT ALL THE THINGS!!!1!1!!1!
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>>340473684

fuck you underwater is shit
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>>340473739
You're shit.
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>>340451916
>what is frontier for vita

This meme is autistic as fuck
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>>340473739
underwater was ok but most of the time was spent trying to force the monster on land
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>>340473471
I think for a new player I'd recommend getting something fast and focusing on attacking monster asses.

>>340473684
They'd have been better if you were more mobile in the water. As it was you just felt sluggish inching around trying to get a hit while Lagi zipped across the area every other millisecond. They eventually just became a battle of attrition until the thing decided to take pity on you and get out of the water again.
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>>340472364
Not him, but if you have CPP or the n3DS nub, here's the configuration that worked with me:

>Bow controls type 2
The new scheme, where R shoots and X toggles the aim. It helps adjusting the camera at the same time as you're charging.
>Bow Aim Mode Cancel: Manual
So that once you press X, the aim mode is always active unless you choose not to.
>Gunner's Reticle type 2
So that your aim always matches your camera.

This means that, when you toggle Aim Mode with X (the arrow trajectory will show on your bow as a yellow line), all arrows will hit the center line of your screen.

All you have to do from there is always have the monster part you want to hit at the center of the camera as you're charging. Then you shoot as if you were shooting no scope bowgun.

Most MH veterans prefer the bow controls type 1 (X attacks and holding R activates a dedicated aim), but with the addition of elevations in 4th gen I find it difficult to move, charge and aim at the same time. It's still feasible to play with type 1, but I find it frustrating.

But as anon said, try your own configurations, you might be more comfortable with other settings.
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>>340473423
It's different styles, I don't know about stamina usage, but it looks cool af iframing a tigrex roar and poke him right away. I guess you'd be attacking faster evading that guarding, I dunno
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>>340472364
Gunner reticle: 2
Quick aim: 1
Reticle speed: fast (normal is also good)
Bow controls: type 2
Bow aim mode cancel: manual
Terrain saavy camera: manual (this is a general option but I feel manual helps me stay in full control of the camera while moving and aiming)

Honestly, lr and hr bows are a pain. Bows are amazing when you get all the multipliers lined up. Power coating, critical distance, full charge, Shot Type Up, and crits. Half of which are not available or hard to get until g rank.

Essential bow skills: fast charge, shot type up (normal = rapid, pellet = spread, pierce)

Extra damage skills: spirit, weakness exploit, brutality, peak performance

Utility skills: evade extender, power coating if your bow doesn't have one
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>>340451182
Monster Hunter > Dark Souls
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>>340473987
Oh come on, I spend all that time typing my post and get ninjad by two minutes. ;-;
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>>340472364
>>340473987
Forgot to say, sometimes you do want to untoggle Aim Mode, like when you want to trip monsters or when the elevation's not an issue, since the default shots will always be a straight line from the hunter.
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get good
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>>340467905
>look up MH porn art
>it's all gigginox or kirin/narga
>there isn't much good porn of other huntresses
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>>340474162
True, and the name of the game for lance is staying on the monster's ass and drilling it at every chance. I'm gonna give this a shot.

>>340474224
>>340473987
Screencapping these for future use/skill checklisting.

>>340474416
>>340474229
Y'all should try actually discussing sometime.
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>>340474224
Samefagging AGAIN but untoggle your aim mode like this:

>move around the monster, preferably at critical distance with aim mode off
>start charging 1.5-2 seconds in advance
>find your best position to fire (critical distance and in safety)
>toggle aim mode then stop
>aim and let loose
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>>340453776
>he has a main weapon
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>>340474715
Just so we're clear, critical distance is the red marker shown when you're fully charged, yes?

Also, would you expound the merits of regular vs arc shots?
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>>340474940
Critical distance is the distance between you and the hit area. Your camera shakes when you successfully land at that distance. Fire too close, you don't get it. Fire too far, same thing.

Spread bows have a closer critical distance, pierce bows have a longer critical distance, and rapids are in the middle.

NEVER use arc shots, keep charging your shots and landing them on the weak spot. They do crap damage and do more harm because:

narrow/wide arc interrupts other hunters and stunlocks them until it ends

Blast arc shot knocks all hunters away and keeps them on the floor for a good 2 seconds. Extremely lethal.

Think of the bow as a ranged greatsword, keep charged and find your best moment.
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>>340474380
Sorry man GIT

Also, I saw you recommended E.Extender. How's it work for you? I have that Kush X set with E+1 for emergencies and it kinda helps not get one shot in some GQs. You use EE for positioning or does it help with not getting hit somehow?

I could see it being useful for escaping a Teo Nova or Kush's sudden charges, but otherwise I find E+1 more versatile.
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>>340474940
Critical distance is when you get hueg hitsparks with lots of particles and the screen shakes.
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>>340475320
I don't use evades for iframes, it means I'm evading too close. Evade distance combined with the amount of time I have before the monster reaches me is all I need.

It's very good to make tigrex subspecies a leisure hunt because EE gives you a looooong roll, way out of the way of the particularly gigantic tigrexes like molten.

Specific monsters aside, I enjoy having a longer roll since I can move around very quickly and suddenly as opposed to simply having a few more iframes.
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>veteran of the Souls series

So a total normie?
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>>340474940
Critical distance is when you shoot a monster and your screen shakes. That means you're doing 1.5x damage. Spread is 1-1.5 hops away from the monster, rapid is 2-4 hops and pierce is shit so don't bother.

By regular you mean Power shots or your usual shots? Arc shots have 2 merits: applying status and KO/exhaust. You probably won't use for either. Power shots are way better. If you're stuck with a bow that has arc shots, just shoot your usual shots.
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>>340457161
Except you can get tons of armor in X that rivals g-rank and you're still doing HR only.

I'm still buying it but I found the game to be incredibly easy this time around. Hopefuly they really changed all those shitty fetch quests.
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>>340451182

Not sure if bait or absolute shitter
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>>340475604
I see. The iframes usually help me since I'm kinda greedy, specially in multiplayer where aggro is divided and I have more breathing room.

I'll give EE a try tho, might help me git gudder.
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>>340451182
You're kidding right? Souls is a casual game at this point.
Its not fucking hard in the slightest.

Only heal when you have time to do so, like when the monster is attacking a cat or aiming for another player.

The farm in the games typically does refill your supplies or gives you ores/bugs to sell for money if that is what you need. As for two bosses in the same zone you can make one leave with a certain item.
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>>340454902
Hey fuck you man, I liked Lagiacrus and 'Droth.
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>>340467905
I got you, familia.
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monsters are not for lewd
and neither are hunters
also MHX is garbage just like frontier
peace
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>>340467905
Gore girl is cute!
Cute!
CUTE!
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>>340476787
That reminds me. Are there going to be armor variations in late game Generations or is it all the same throughout?
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>>340478121
>and neither are humans
What

Also
>frontier
>garbage
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>>340478330
I have no idea since I'm a 3U babby (I will get the next MH they put on a home console no matter what it looks like) but that armor looks fucking dope. Here, have some art of my favorite set.

Favorite is actually Barioth Z, but I like the color scheme of both.
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>>340478121
>and neither are hunters
Take that back!
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>>340478487
>>340478871
Degenerates plz go and stay go.
>>>/vp/
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>>340479035
You mean >>>/vg/
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>>340478121
MHX would have been great with the boomerang and wolf weapons they brainstormed.

And with Dinovaldo grabbing it's cut off tail like Sif from Dark Souls to fight.
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>>340479138
/mhg/ is a shadow of its former self but it's still ok
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>>340479293
MHX would have been great without horrible monster designs like Dinovaldo to begin with.
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>>340451182
git gud m80
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>>340479464
I haven't been in like a year, I would assume it was slower before the game came out?

The cripple chan /v/ threads were also usually good
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>>340451182
>if not the most difficult series in videogames
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>>340479568
I liked Dinovaldo. It was way better than Zinogre
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>>340479842
Zinogre is fine. Dinovaldo is just a FF-tier jho reskin.
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>>340479842
HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE SHOCK DOGGO
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>>340480016
>Has nearly no animations ripped from Jho
>Somehow is a Jho reskin
How?
Duramboros is a bigger Jho reskin than Dinovaldo is
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