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overwatch has lost any chance of being competitive
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overwatch has lost any chance of being competitive
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Did anybody honestly believe it could be competitive in the first place?
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>>340401346
Are you retarded or just pretending? All my casual friends think this is the next CSGO
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> competitive
> implying that nobody is actually competing when they play Overwatch, and that they're not trying to win
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>>340401346
yes Blizzard.
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With 20 tick? The amount of Genji deflects that I've seen fuck up is astounishing. Will be a shitty competitive scene.
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Good. Tourneyfags are cancer.
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When you say a game can't be "competitive", what is that implying? Like, are you saying that means it can't be a good game?
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>Activision-Blizzard game
>Competitive
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Is that webm from a longer video?
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idk nigger
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>>340401254

a shooter determined by cooldowns and stun effects never had any chance of being competitive

it is boring to watch, because the actual core gameplay is overshadowed by retarded, flashy, game changing 'press button to win' effects
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>>340403674
sc2 still has a scene doesn't it?
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>>340402620
This.
What do you faggots mean when you use the word competitive.
Both teams in the game are competing in order to achieve a goal.
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>>340403973
nope
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>>340403973
Dead as fuck. Blizz needs to fix their shitty ladder first.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyNFSzwTtF8
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>>340404006
>>340404125
not even in korea? or did they just hop back on to bw
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>>340404240
korea is all over dota 2 now since their team is pretty fucking good SC is dead.
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>>340401796
>All my casual friends think this is the next CSGO

I think all of your "friends" are still in high school, just like you.
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>20 tick
>competitive
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft haha
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>>340402620
>tfw my friends aren't trying to win, they are having fun, so they won't swap to something we need or hold their ults and wait for me
"Why don't you join us anon, better chance of winning in a group!"
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>>340402708
How?
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>>340404395
>tfw no longer in highschool
why do I even still play videogames?
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>>340404498
DELTE THIS ITS ARTIST CHOICE
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If they made it competitive I'm sure the competitive mode would actually have good hitboxes and normal accuracy
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>>340401254
does genj deflect in the direction he is looking or back at the source of the attack?
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>>340404552
>tfw friends like this
>I actually want to try and win this time
>fuck off tryhard
I hate how every vidya term has lost all meaning
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>>340401254
Well of two party games can make it to Evo. I say way not.
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>>340404638
>I'm sure the competitive mode would actually have good hitboxes and normal accuracy

Competitive mode won't even have 60 tick. THE GAME IS FUCKING SHIT
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>>340403756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-wOh_fuTqI

there you go
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>>340401254
>>340404498
>>340404669

I knew the hitboxes were wonky but I didn't realize it was THAT wonky. Fuck.
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>>340404638
>they'll just fix it for competition
You know this is blizzard right, they wouldn't change shit and the issues would require a different game
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>>340404731
imagine being a commentator trying to explain this blatantly obvious auto aiming, and other silly shit during a live game
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>>340404719
It's so infuriating.
I bet they have mains too right? And haven't even played all the cast?
Just tell them you'd rather be a tryhard than a diehard
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>>340404764
Aim assist, fuck huge hitboxes, 20 tick.

What idiot pulls this casual shit and labels it an "Artistic Choice"?
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>>340404669
That's worse bullet magnetism than halo 5, holy fuck
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>cuckwatch
lol
stop playing this shit, you cucks
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>>340404498
it's okay when valve does it to their competitive game.
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>>340401254
DELETE THIS
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>>340404949
when has tf2 ever been competitive
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>>340404949
>DELETE THIS
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>>340404949
>this is your argument
Kill yourself.
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>>340404949
How old is TF2, again?
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>>340404889
Wow.
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>>340404896

I dont know. As Pharah player this pretty much kills it for me.
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>>340405008
they're adding it.
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>>340405045
Almost 9 years old
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>>340404789
painfully unfunny.
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>>340404949
>game from 2016 should not have progress over older games
t.blizzcuck
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>>340404949
>one weapon used by a single class

you sure showed us

ps

a competitive sniper would never use a projectile weapon over a hitscan weapon
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>>340401796
>all my casual friends

wow I sure care about their garbage opinion

overwatch is as casual as games come, it's a fucking joke to have "esports" in this
just like hearthstone
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I don't know how anybody thought this could be a TF2 replacement. The number one thing TF2 had going for it, besides gameplay, is how unique the game was in terms of art, aesthetics, weaponry, and even some of the FPS features.

This game has generic Crysis armor plate #267372 aesthetics, boring weapons, boring stages and no real interesting backstory or support. It's about as DOA as it gets
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>>340404949
>it's okay when valve does it to their competitive game.
No, it's fucking not. Why would you think it is?
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>>340401254
>last week:
>omg why isn't this quake where's muh rocketjumping? shit game.
>this week
>omg why isn't this CS? muh pixelperfect hitboxes. shit game.
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>>340404896
more like authistic...
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>>340405072
>flames have to touch you directly to hurt you
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>>340405139
Two actually.
>>340405072
The same as the Overwatch ones.

>>340405183
that was the point.

>>340405042
It is. Only autists on /v/ care. Nobody else does.
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>>340404707
Direction he's facing
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> tfw you realize people play these games for competition because they're too unathletic to play sports
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>>340405190
Those are hitboxes from a 1999 game.
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>>340405197
Thanks consoles.
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>>340405135
Missed because of that thigh gap.
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>>340404949
There is a difference between arrow deviation and movement and bullets litterally tracking to targets. To prove my point try landing two arrows in TF2 in the exact same spot. There will always be deviation. Then fire two shots in OW above the head and watch as both slam into the target at the exact same angle and direction
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>>340405323
haha epin upvote
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>>340405190
>comparing a 1999 game to a 2016 one

also that game is far, far, FAR faster than Overrated will ever be
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>>340405247
>that was the point.
So the point was "Valve's games have shitty hitboxes, so it's OK for Overwatch to have shitty hitboxes as well"? Because that's fucking retarded.
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>>340401254
that obviously isn't a real gun but bullets from real guns actually have a parabolic arc where the bullet travels higher than a straight line from the muzzle before undergoing bullet drop

the more you know
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>>340405293
>unathletic
Non-athletic you fucking mongoloid.
If you're going to shit post, make sure you're using proper words.
Do you expect everyone to be outside, playing football?

Just kill yourself.
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>>340404889
to be fair, it could be just putting the shot on the legs to mask the fact that it's a hitbox. If that was happening when you aim outside the hitbox near the legs, then it'd be a concern. Though that's prolly the case.
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>>340401346
Blizzard and retards

20 tick rate
Fps
Competitive? Stupid as shit

What is worse is a lan connection , A straight Ethernet cable connection makes no difference compared to a plugged in phone using LTE

I promise anyone if you played game using a Ethernet cable and one using you phone + personal hotspot your not going to lag at all because the game is locked hard behind this retarded tickrate
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>>340405418
I meant that it's all ok, or none of it is.
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>>340404498
when was this done though? they changed the arrow hitbox a lot
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>>340405389
>>340405301
this is Quake Live hitbox.
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>>340401254
>competitive
>implying blizzard isnt gigantic enough to change the whole FPS standard into 20 ticks

this is what you ask for, every next MMOFPS will be 20 tick from now on. you cant defeat blizzard
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>>340405412
HAXXXXXXXXXXXXX!
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>>340405440
It doesn't happen in like 20 feet though
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>>340405495
and what game is it based on
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>>340404326
Koreans play LoL not DOTA
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>>340405472
What was the point of bringing TF2 into an Overwatch thread?
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>>340403583
The hitboxes aren't pixel-perfect so there's not enough of a skill ceiling for autistic tourneyfags who play 20 hours a day to truly rise over the common pleb. So the game can't ever be played in a competitive setting.
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>>340405412
At least post relevant images, killcams are not representative of what the player sees. It's like posting webms from a source replay
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>>340405501
haha, damn!
i want to watch that fight, just seeing her smile as the other girls fists are doing nothing
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>>340404949
TF2 is not even competetive like CSGO , much older and is nothing like overwatch and I enjoy both

You fell for the fucking meme hard
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>>340405412
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>>340405190
>muh pixelperfect hitboxes.
it's 2016, hitboxes like this aren't acceptable
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>>340405412
This one seems like it was a flick shot, but the poor tickrate on the kill cam didn't catch up with it.
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>>340405183
He doesn't. It's a thing people say ironically around here to emphasize how it ISN'T okay despite companies believing they can get away with it.
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>>340405535
you are right but I wanted to enjoy some shitposting on /v/ by posting that little bit of trivia
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>>340405471
thats their statement
>we don't want to change the game because 20% off our userbase are poorfags
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>We can capture the esports with WoW arenas! well fuck
>we can capture the esports with SC2! fucking shit guys
>no wait we got it this time, hearthst-FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>ESPORTSWATCH THIS CANT FAIL AGAIN FIFTH TIMES THE CHARM HELL YEAH GET THE HYPE TRAIN GOIN TOOT TOOT
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>>340405501
>people said the same shit about hots
>they'll just push their way into the moba competitve scene they're blizzard haha
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>AIM ASSIST IN A PC FIRST PERSON SHOOTER
>20 TICK RATE IN A PC FIRST PERSON SHOOTER
>HITBOXES THE SIZE OF OHIO

I liked this game during the beta but Blizzard somehow are pros are muffling the noise of requests that people really want.
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>>340405501
Blizzard's large following isn't competitive at all though, all casual shitters. The last competitive game they made was Warcraft 3.
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The game is tuned for consoles, what your seeing is probably some sort of auto aim

Same as the big console optimized hitboxes
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>>340405109
Oh, you mean this random OW image I used because of it's vague relevancy? S-sorry.
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>>340405573
because people praise that one
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>>340405601
>still thinking its all kill cam after seeing the OP
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>>340404812
You're kidding, right?

They literally made all of the classes the same in WoW, Diablo 3 and even Starcraft 2 to some extent because people whinged about balancing issues

>>340404812
>and the issues would require a different game
Not for changes to hitboxes
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>>340405601
>killcams are not representative of what the player sees
t.blizzcuck
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>>340405670
>overwatch
>pc
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>>340405389
>>340405301
Pixelperfect hitboxes are a CS/CoD tacticool shooter thing. Idk why Quake and friends do it this way, but they do. I don't know why Blizzard designed it this way, but they did. I don't mind at all.

20tick is a much greater issue.
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>>340405737
>your post
>relevant
???
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>>340405681
It's on PC you deluded PCuck shitter
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>>340405695
love that pic
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>>340405708
People also praise Dark Souls. Does that mean we should bring Dark Souls into every other thread? Oh wait, Fromdrones already do. Never mind.
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>>340405409
How dare you provide information while we're throwing shit at each other.
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>>340401254
Any game can be played competitively. None of these mountains of nitpicks matter and they won't stop people from wanting to compete whether in ranked or at big LANs. Overwatch certainly isn't as deep or skillful as Quake or even TF2, but the entertainment as a viewer will come from watching highly coordinated teams combo abilities. Anyone else here just enjoy seeing games played to their limit by pros?
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>>340405601
You're not wrong. Hell even potg's seem to fuck up compared to my recorded footage.
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>>340405742
you are aware TF2 is on cucksoles, right?

Good shitpost though
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>>340405656
It's dumb because there is no upside purposely locking your servers outside of letting a few people in the boonies play the game , the hit boxes are terrible because of this
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>>340405634
Yea it's fucked up.
I died as winston while I was jumpingso I flew up in the air. In the killcam I didn't move at all.
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>>340405729
>>340405718
Not him, but while I agree the hitboxes in the game are ridiculous, killcams aren't an accurate representation of what the player sees.
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>>340405825
We don't talk about consoles.
Who the fuck plays tf2 on consoles anyway? It's completely broken.
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>>340405681
b-but console and pc are different r-right?
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>>340405718
It doesn't matter what I think, killcams are still not representative of actual in-game footage.
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>>340405720
And none of those are competitive games.

If they want it to be competitive fps, it isn't happening with overwatch
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>>340405825
>developed by valve, who owns steam

you're the cucksole here
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How big is the download size for Overwatch?
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>>340405825
the game has never once received an update on console.
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So I get just wasted in overwatch. I corner hug a lot though just from FPS habits, is that a terrible idea with the tickrate? Am I essentially just standing out in the open because my hitbox is there most of the time if I'm popping in and out?
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>>340404949
>cuntsman
>competitive
Overwatchkids are THIS desperate for arguments.
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>>340405501
>>implying blizzard isnt gigantic enough to change the whole FPS standard into 20 ticks

Yeah, because Blizzard sure did take over the moba genre with HotS... oh wait it pulls less viewers and consistent players than fucking Smite.
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>>340405876
Is there a statment on that or is that just you going into full damage control?
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>>340401254
name one fucking shooter for which you cant find clips like that. Every shooter has this sometimes but 90% of the time hitboxes are alright.
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>>340405923
>wahh wahh wahh DELELLEETE THIS

kek
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>>340405836
>there is no upside purposely locking your servers
Yes there is, the upside is you can cheap out on servers.
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>>340405928
Move out your parents house first
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>>340405451
Whoa gettin triggerd there arent you m8
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>>340406056
And this is exactly what they've done.
Sold a high amount of copies of the game, say it was an "artistic choice" to be fucking jews.
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>>340406075
Not him but I have to watch my downloads per month because loldownloadlimit
I hate american cable companies
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>>340401254
So I'm going to upgrade my computer with my next pay check. I was going to buy a 1070 when it comes out (not founder's edition), so that I could play Overwatch on ultra settings with good frames. But, it looks like Overwatch is actually a bad game.

In fact, PC gaming has been a little dry lately and I don't see any great ass games coming out that require a monster PC. Should I bother getting a 1070 or should I just get a graphics card for $200?

Can someone list the good PC games I should be aware of? Is DOOM good?
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>>340406013
Why the fuck would anyone have to go into damage control for a CASUAL shooting game?

Blizzard has never expressly said "We intend Overwatch to be an ultra-fucking competitive super hardcore game with attosecond hit registration and serious strategy"
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>>340401254
I've just checked the practice mode and was unable to get the same results no matter how I fired and how much I fired. Can you post the source of the webm?
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>>340406079
What's there to be triggered over? You have no retort. You got fucking told and want to come back with 'xd triggered'. Stay held.
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>>340402797

>Walk around corner
>See McRee
>Press deflect
>Get stunned anyway
>deflect is on cooldown
>On hillcam the grenade hit my chest

McREEEEEEEEEEE
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Pharah is the only Attacker in OW that takes any semblance of skill to play well. Every other character is only about closing distance and facerolling with some retarded skill or hittinh their "emergency" button if things go south.
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>>340404552
Dicking around is less fun than actively strategizing and going for the win. Dump them, they're holding you back mang.
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Competitive is actually just a buzzword/marketing term for professionally.
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>>340405409
>you haven't seen a lot of shooters that move as fast as overwatch
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>>340406232
I'm not the same dude but holy fuck did he immediately hit a nerve


Why don't you go outside and play some football HAHAHAHA
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>>340405451
Is non athletic a term like how handicapped people who say handicapable to make themselves feel better?
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>>340406171
just get a PS4K man PC sucks dick.
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>>340401254
Why does this matter to me, the casual player? I don't give a shit about the competitive scene.
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>>340406075
Getting a new internet provider because datacap is fucking stupid. Was thinking if it was like 6g, I could just download it. I could only find the size for the beta and Blizzard's website only shows how much space needed on the hard drive and the game certainly doesn't look like its 30g download.
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>Numbani Attack
>pick Reinhardt
>rest of the team picks D.Va, two McCrees, Tracer and a Hanzo
>"We need a healer. We have 0 sustain out there."
>"lol who cares. tryhard, I play to have fun"
>D.Va doesn't spend a single second disrupting the enemy Widowmaker, gets constantly killed instead
>Hanzo gets killed trying to attack a Torbjörn turret
>Tracer is off doing fuck knows what, certainly not killing anything
>both McCrees try to ambush people around corners, which never happens because the enemy team doesn't move away from their point

HOW THE FUCK DID THESE PEOPLE MAKE IT TO LVL80+?!
WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT OF MMR IF I STILL GET MATCHED WITH BRAIN-DEAD SHITTERS LIKE THESE?!
WHY IS IT THAT EVERY TIME I GET ONE OR TWO CLOSE GAMES AGAINST EQUAL OPPONENTS I'M IMMEDIATELY SORTED BACK INTO A TEAM WITH MOUTH-BREATHING RETARDS?!
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>>340406180
so damage control alright.
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>>340406265
The only other offense hero with a get out of jail free card is tracer. Don't act like everyone has a free escape.
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>>340405315

What the fuck does this have to do with consoles, the console versions have their own tweaks separate from the PC one.
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>>340406334
What's the point of playing casually. You just pop in and lose and say "woah that was fun" then close your PC. What is the point of that. Don't you want to win?
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>>340405182
>is how unique the game was in terms of [...] weaponry, and even some of the FPS features.
Like what? TF2 had incredibly generic weaponry. Class weapons, in order:
>heavy shotgun, pistol
>generic rocket launcher, shotgun
>flamethrower, shotgun (also airblast)
>generic grenade launcher, remote-detonated explosives launcher with charge fire
>minigun that needs to spin up to fire, shotgun
>shotgun, pistol, automatic sentry gun
>heal ray gun, generic automatic projectile weapon with aesthetic twist
>sniper rifle that charges when scoped in, generic SMG
>generic revolver, backstab knife, disguise kit and invisibility watch
Now the medigun, sentry/dispenser/teleporter, and entire spy class are pretty creative, but most of the TF2 weaponry is fairly generic? Or are you talking about the unlockable weapons? I always thought they were badly designed, pretty much all of them just being remixes of the already existing weapons instead of new weapons in their own right.
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>>340404498
This is the reason Hanzo's plague console OW>>340404513
and Widowmaker's are rare.
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>>340406301
I mean it's probably the slowest shooter I've seen in years so I guess that's true.
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>>340406417
What about reapers ghost walk?
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>>340406315
Come outside, fuckboy.

>>340406326
No, non-athletic is an actual word unlike "unathletic". The more you know.
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>>340404949
Protip: Most games have generous hitboxes, including MUH COMPEDEDEV ones. Overwatch's are relatively close to the model, in fact.
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>>340406418
>aim assist and bullet magnetism on a pc game
>what does this have to do with consoles?!
You're retarded
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>>340406383
Forced 50
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>2016
>every fps needs to be competitive otherwise its shit

Fags like you are worst to play with in any video games. I bet you rage at people who play for fun rather to care for win.
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Blizzard knows what they are doing. I read through the metacritic reviews to see what people said they liked about the game trying to get another perspective other than the waifu shit and bashing you see on this board. Literally almost every reviewer was giving it 9-10s saying they absolutely hated it at first but started getting kills and soon loved it. Many of them even admit they've always hated games like this because they just get destroyed but love overwatch because even they could get kills too.

Blizzard is cashing in on casuals making them think they are good at a fast paced competitive fps. In reality the game is practically playing itself. If you can't see this, especially now with all the auto aim bullshit floating about, then you are a butthurt casual in denial and should probably leave this board.
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>>340406383
why didn't you pick a healer if you already had 2 other tanks?
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>>340406213
It's already been posted in the thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-wOh_fuTqI
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>>340406334
This is just something I don't understand. Every since Overwatch was first shown off in a demo /v/ has gone out of its way to call the game casual shit. Everyone knows it's casual. I think Blizzard themselves even admitted it's a shooter they intended to be easy to pick up and play.

And since the beta /v/ has done nothing but complain about how the game should be taken absolutely seriously and everyone must not pick this character or else they are ruining their public unranked match and the hitboxes are too generous and ultimates make it too easy

It's a casual game, what the fuck did you people expect?
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>>340406503
But in ET you move at like 10x the speed of OW, player models are pretty small, and the majority of your kills requires you to aim rather than pressing Q to win.
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>>340406637
Because of the "dva is not a tank" meme
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>>340404949
tf2 is outdated

an update competitive game like CSGO uses Hitbubbles
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>>340406627
>Blizzard knows what they are doing
Funniest joke itt desu senpai well played
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>>340406564
You're missing the point of the word competitive as it's used in this context
It's about the game not running like ass or having easily documentable instances of bullshit happening, because dying to random bullshit due to technical problems isn't fun
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>>340406503
Overwatch hitbox is twice the size of the model you shill.
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>>340405451
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unathletic
> Not athletic; lacking in athleticism.

YOU GOT ME GOOD LOL

Also, you aren't allowed to reply to this post until you do 20 push-ups. That's my way of telling you not to reply.
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>>340406445
I'm on console. And since 98% of the players are also casual, then yes, it is fun. I have about a 50% winrate, and I enjoy feeling like I did well or helped the team. I always try to win.

But it's not a central part of my life, it's a casual hobby. I get home from work, eat dinner with my family, then maybe grab an hour or so of Overwatch. And my demographic is the one Blizzard really marketed the game to, not CSGo autists.
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>>340406564
>hit boxes, refresh rate, and aiming mechanics shown to be utter fucking shit and makes the game feel like fucking garbage to play (walk behind a wall and die 2 seconds later type of bad)

>You: "Man anyone who doesn't accept this without question is a FAG. FAGS like you are the worst to play with in ANY video games!!!! you have STANDARDS? wow what is this, the 90s? We play AAA kusoge now!!"
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>>340406637
D.Va is not a tank, she a disruptor/skirmisher. She doesn't give a defensive front-line like Reinhardt or, to a lesser extent, Roadhog and Zarya.
If those two factors aren't there, sustain through heals and a front-line, then in an evenly matched fight the team without them loses. Sure you can get away with not having a healer or a tank of the other team is complete shit, but in that situation you can get away with nearly anything.
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>>340406564
You're missing the argument.
People want a fun game that doesn't limit skill.
20 tick, these hitboxes and now apparent auto aim/aim assist on PC restricts that.

The game is fun but there are glaring flaws like the problems I just listed to even have fun.

When you're behind a corner and get headshot by snipers because of 1) 20 tick (Hanzo sees you, you dont see him, but kills you anyway) combined with 2) Ohio-large-hitboxes means that you have to jump around like a god damn retard to even hope to be safe.

This takes away any amount of skill or showmanship that is learned from playing these games daily.

It's the opposite of fun.
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>>340406503
Fuck I love Wolf ET

DYNAMITE PLANTED
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>>340406659
Oh, so it is the ceiling. The webm was totally not made with ill intent to confuse retards like >>340405718
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>>340406213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-wOh_fuTqI
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>>340406662
I think you use a different /v/. Every Overwatch thread was basically praising the game has the next big fast paced shooter and how we all should buy the game.
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>>340406824
Aren't the purpose of tanks is to distract and soak up damage
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>>340406715
>high mobility
>lackluster damage at close range, laughable damage at distance
>massive crit-box at her center of mass
>defense matrix works as an ult-counter, but gives no defensive benefit 90% of the time

>no sustainable defensive
>no pushing power
>no self-sustain

Do you even think before you post?
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>>340406637
>>340406715
D.va is not a fucking tank, the only tank-like thing she has in her kit is the defense matrix, and even that isn't enough to make her a tank

she exists to disrupt the enemy team and counter any form of problematic damage, like pharah's ult or bastion
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>>340406942
I think that would be /vg/
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>>340406798
leave /v/
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>>340406564
Okay believe me, I agree with you that not every game needs to be competitive to be fun. I have friends who refuse to play anything but CSGO Dota 2 and Street Fighter because "muh competitive scene" but like these do look like some pretty huge balancing issues here. It's no fun dying to somebody that never actually hit you, but shot the area next to you and therefore counted. I think I'm going to have to agree with the tourneyfags here.
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>>340406942
Confirmation bias in action people. Idk which of you is right, but there's no denying we've had plenty of both types of posts.
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>>340406857
WUNDERBAR
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>>340406682
ET wasn't super fast without leveled up medics, and aren't the models about as big as 76 or other heroes? Certainly bigger than Tracer or DVA outside the mech. Most old shooters got speed from jumping, which you typically never did in combat because it fixed your trajectory and got you killed.

The point is that hitboxes really don't matter. Everyone takes advantage of them. Projectile around the corner kills are rare and actually take thought to exploit.
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>>340406951
I think he's saying that D. Va is an in-between kind of offense/tank. It's clear she can't actually be a tank like reinhardt. Standing on the front lines as D. Va destroys your mech in 2 seconds then you're just useless.
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>>340404638
Interview the other day said Competitive mode is pretty much just a seperate levelling system that resets every few months, with few other changes.

Source; fucking Google it fag.
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>>340406772
>wiki
Are you retarded or legitimately stupid?

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unathletic?s=t

It's not a real word.
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Blizzard will force this game to be competitive I guarantee it. Act/blizz has a ton invested into e-sports and this is their "e-sport" game.

As this stuff is brought to light and if it indeed is a problem, they will patch it to try to make it competitive. I expect the game to change drastically with added characters and updates.
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>>340406739
So pretty much like most shooters that aren't CS? And if you look at the ET hitbox it's actually literally twice the size of the model from a 45 degree angle.
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>>340406991
And Reinhardts damage isn't laughable?
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>>340406490
You're right, very tired lol. Offensive heros are the most deserving of having some kind of escape imo. Reaper wraith is very easy to counter and okay in my eyes
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>>340404949
>post webm showing TF2 has similar wonky hitboxes
>get assaulted by "lmao kid u dont even kno hitbox technology has come so far now we understand the idea that heads aren't 4 feet wide"

Holy shit TF2fags, calm down. Your game is still free, you can still play it with the foreigners and furries.
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CAN WE JUST REVIVE UNREAL TOURNAMENT 1999 OR THE CLASSIC TRIBES GAMES??? I AM SICK OF PLAYING SHITTY GAMES

CAN WE JUST REVIVE UNREAL TOURNAMENT 1999 OR THE CLASSIC TRIBES GAMES??? I AM SICK OF PLAYING SHITTY GAMES

CAN WE JUST REVIVE UNREAL TOURNAMENT 1999 OR THE CLASSIC TRIBES GAMES??? I AM SICK OF PLAYING SHITTY GAMES

CAN WE JUST REVIVE UNREAL TOURNAMENT 1999 OR THE CLASSIC TRIBES GAMES??? I AM SICK OF PLAYING SHITTY GAMES
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>>340407021
nah

Although frankly this is the worst board
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>>340407113
> it's not a real word
git gud nub lollllllllll
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>/v/ will continue to play this shit game anyway
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>>340407126
>they will patch it to try to make it competitive
Yeah they did so well with sc2
No friend, they're gonna just keep screaming that the game is competitive and let people shill for them
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>>340406417
Reaper, Tracer's is the most offensive one.
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>>340407201
Go play Quake Live. It's pretty dead, but not so dead you can't get a game.
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>>340407215
Nice retort.
Have fun with your shitposting.
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>>340403583
It means the game is busted shit.

Look at Hokuto No Ken, a game full of busted infinites, no burst and ridiculously easy to combo instant kills.
Fun game but taking it seriously on a competitive level is laughable because of how random and broken it is.
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>>340407162
He can chase while swinging and can hit lots of people at once at full damage.
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>>340406951
No, their purpose is to hold a defensive front-line.
Reinhardt has his shield, melee damage and charge to hold a very strong line against the enemy team (which is why he's the most-picked tank by far).
Roadhog can block damage with his body, has a massive self-heal and can potentially one-shot people at mid-range. (his damage-soaking generates ult for the enemy, which is his biggest weakness)
Zarya has her shields, which work perfectly with an aggressive support or offense and half her health is shields, which regenerates on its own. She is deadly at close range and can exert very good pressure and mid- and semi-long-range with her alt-fire.

D.Va and Winston can briefly block a lot of damage, but they have no damage to be threatening and no sustain. They're perfect at jumping/boosting into the enemy team, disrupting their snipers and healers, then escaping.
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>>340404552
"lol just have fun man it's a game who cares if we win or lose :)"

>implying strategizing, getting a good team composition, and winning isn't fun

These type of people are annoying.
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>>340407212
uhhh, dude? /pol/ is very obviously the worst board. I'm sure replies to this post will show exactly why.
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>>340406951
Yes and d.va only does one of those, the lack of being able to soak up damage like reinhardt, roadhog, zarya, and winston makes her not a tank

You should stop thinking of the hero roles as what they should be doing and start thinking of them as what the hero is like
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>>340407289
I was trying to point out the futility of complaining about "real words" on a site that vomits memes on an hourly basis, but yeah, the problem is that you're unathletic and you play videogames to compensate for that lack of athletic skill. So thanks.
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>>340407262
I always liked unreal tournament and tribes but don't you have to play quake live in a browser? that is gay to me.
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>>340407238
Try is the key word.

My point is they have a lot invested in this, they are going to try their all to appease the fans so they can make the most dosh. Whether they actually succeed is anyone's gueess.

My guess is probably not, but I do have hope the game is promising is some areas.
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>>340407325
>not mcree
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Am I the only one that feels like I'm doing more damage when I'm out of my mech? I can kill an enemy turret in seconds from long range with my pistol
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GO TO /vg/
OVERWATCH THREADS NEED TO DIE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>340407162
He does 75 damage per melee-swing, which has a good range and hit everyone in front. His ult does 50 damage and stuns everyone in front for 2.5 seconds. His charge knocks back and does 50 damage, if he pins someone it does 300 damage.

You tell me.
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>>340407423
Not any more, and back when you did it was literally no problem. Idk why people sperged out about that.
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>>340403583
It doesn't reward the ability to actually aim well.
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>>340406812
Seriously why care about skill in video games? They mean to be entertaiment for a good hour or two nothing more. If you really care about that you never accomplish anything in outside video games.
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>>340404896
Blizzard, apparently.

I'm surprised /v/ is fapping to this game so much.
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>>340407293
> Fun game but taking it seriously on a competitive level
The fact it is fun is all that matters. It's irrelevant whether the game is "competitive", so long as it's enjoyable to play. Unless you're saying that you're using the game as a substitute for real sports, or something.
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>>340407201
No those games had even shittier hitboxes so they're automatically garbage.
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>>340406171
>looks like Overwatch is actually a bad game

If you're looking for a shooter with perfect hitboxes, your day is gonna suck.
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>>340407501
neo-/v/, everyone.
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>>340407403
>I'm better than people on an imageboard that I partake in shitposting on
>this board is shit

Take your non-athletic ass to tumblr or something. They fetish over being shit on.
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>>340407501
you're on the wrong board faggot
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>>340407331

I have a friend like this. Not only does he do they "just a game/having fun" bullshit, he sucks ass at the game, constantly forgets basic things and actively refuses to learn/improve
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>>340407463
She does way more damage out of mech with her dinky water pistol its silly
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>>340407436
>My point is they have a lot invested in this,

The game is literally assets from Titan they did not invested anything. This is why the netcode tickrate are so shit for a shooter because the game is build on a mmo engine.
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>>340404949
TF2 is 9 years old. And the weapon is only used by people that want to fuck around, no serious sniper would want to use the Huntsman over the sniper rifle

Also there's a pretty huge chance that the hitboxes are going to be changed in the upcoming matchmaking update.
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>>340407201
midair is gonna be a lot like T2
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>>340407463
I still wish I were Pharah's wife
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>>340405139
Neither do the ones in Overwatch, lol. Hanzo is trash tier and Widowmaker can be game breaking.
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>>340407484
Rewarding the ability to aim well is only important if the mechanics/visuals backing the idea are satisfying. That's why Counter-Strike, a game that "rewards" aim moreso than almost everything, still has awful shooting.
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>>340407642
Pharah is love, Pharah is life.
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>>340407501
yeah you're right man let's just smash our face on the keyboard while playing starcraft. it doesn't matter what happens because it's only fun for an hour.

You realize with your stupid "logic" you can't refute this, right? Who cares about skill in video games. If you pick up the controller and even walk to the control point I can just say "wow fag you are actually trying to win? who CARES about skill in video games dude just walk in circles for an hour then turn the game off. It's only fun for an hour! LOL!"
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fuck competitive anyways

devs need to get their balls back and stop trying so hard to make everything "fair" and "balanced"
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>>340407463
That's a fact, her pistol deals shitloads of damage
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>>340403583
He's implying it can't be competitive. That's all that means. This point has to be continually made because fps casuals keep claiming this game is the next CSGO or whatever. It's not.

That's fine, it's a retardedly easy game for anyone with a decent amount of skill in fps games, but that doesn't mean it can't be fun or enjoyable. I have fun with it, but I certainly wish it were more than what it is currently.

The point that OW isn't competitive isn't saying that it's a bad game, it's just saying that ITS NOT COMPETITIVE. It's a casual friendly game, painfully so at times, and that's fine, but when the community keeps insisting it's a high skill game they're fooling themselves. Some people who want a more hardcore experience will not enjoy the game, but that's fine too. Just accept what the game is, enjoy your game and stop insisting it be more than what it is, and stop claiming it's something it's not.
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>>340407516
>When you say a game can't be "competitive", what is that implying?
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Well ASSFAGGOTS take literally zero skill and they still have massive "competitive" scenes, I don't see why Overwatch couldn't be the same.
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>>340407853
No thread without mobabutthurt, even if it's completely unrelated. Stay classy /v/.
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>>340407853
Dota takes far more skill than the trash game Overwatch.
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>>340407853
>Well ASSFAGGOTS take literally zero skill
no, they take at least 3 skill, with a skill cap of 20, maybe even 25
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>>340407625
Lol you are a fucking idiot, sorry. Titan failed as a project and they took elements from it to make OW. Titan is OW dumbass, all that dev time counts towards OW, not the vaporware.

They have a ton invested in e-sports in general, read a fucking article. They want to be #1 in e-sports. They have also invested a ton in dev time and marketing. I'm sure they are going to make an OW movie at some point as well.
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>>340407839
>20 year old me would beat that asshole with the camera up with a hockey stick but now, I dont know..
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