>Waaa waaa 25 people content is so easy! Give us some challenge
Pic related happens
>Waaaa waaa this boss is so hard, people dies at everything, what the fuck Squeenix?
My gosh I don't know who are worse, the shitters that keep fucking up simple mechanics on Ozma or the ones who will cry at everything.
Is anyone actually crying at SE or just raging at shitty players?
>>340393382
Both. I've seen people saying
>It's so hard for pugs
and
>Fucking pugs can't into mechanics.
I blame NA players and WoWfugees.
If they actually nerf Mhach and Final Steps within short period of time, I'm unsubbing. They've proven times and times again that they're unwilling to make short-notice changes to anything that may not work, but if they actually budge in to the whiners (whereas they must've known what would happen if they tune content like that), then they clearly aren't looking to improving the atmosphere of their game and are just making shots in the dark.
>>340392168
Haven't played, but I'm guessing you need to :
1.Get out of the fire
2.DPS boss to death
It's amazing that MMO fags can't grasp simple concepts like that.
>>340396890
Eh it surprisingly has a lot more mechanics than don't stand in the fire then previous 24 mans. Theres quite a few mechanics that can easily wipe your group in the dungeon if you didn't position them correctly.
Best 24man to date.
Shits all over CT and WoD.
>>340392168
God damn i fucking love Ozma in this.
>harder than the actual final boss
>sends pubs to hell
Sure I've yet to complete the raid in 4parties but I haven't had this much fun in the last few patches.
Gee Nidhogg, how come you get THREE battle themes?
>>340392168
The boss is piss easy... the playerbase of ffxiv is just the worst of all mmorpgs.
>i'm a little lala pls pet me
>i'm a catboi i will pet you... pls fuck my ass roe i'm big nunh cat
>i'm a roe and a huge faggot look at my pants and boots
>everything is cuddling
>worst erp ever
>worst community ever
>worst raids ever
>worst boss design ever. everything is a flat circle arena, besides 1.X - 2.0.
>>340392168
Why are these giants attempting to destroy Jupiter?
>paying a sub to play a game you already bought
atleast wow has tokens
Is that fucking Ozma?
>>340397718
It doesn't help that the huge amount of WoWfugees are terrible without boss mods telling them exactly how to do fights.
>>340397969
>huge amount of WoWfugees
FFXIV has 700k active characters
>>340398112
Yeah? What does that have to do with it? Every single sub from WoW didn't migrate to FFXIV but there are a lot of people who did.
>People disbanding on Ozma because their gear broke
Fix your fucking gear before you do something, people.
>Do Nidhogg for the first time
>As we enter, someone says "good luck everyone"
>Some female Au Ra MNK with a japanese name proclaims "i don't need encouragement I beat a7s"
>Proceeds to spoil the ending
>First pull goes well, some people die to the second phase's AoE and we wipe to Akh Morns
>"don't stand in the aoes you retards"
>Gee thanks for the tip Sherlock
>Retry
>Run goes very well, we keep LB3 in case we can save us from a wipe
>Wait until the boss doesn't have a lot of health left for the dramatic DRG LB3 finish
>She uses it around 20%
>Just fucks off without saying anything after the boss is dead
The worst thing is that I was doing more DPS than her
>>340398428
>holding off lb until boss is low health
you can fuck off with that shit m8
>moogle tribe crafting exclusive
>Crafters and gatherers can upgrade their relics roughly ten times as fast as DoW/M only plebs without as spending any gil
>Crafting gear finally not beyond weekly caps anymore
About time SE remembered we exist.
>>340398361
>No being able to repair your own gear
>>340396634
>If they actually nerf Mhach and Final Steps
Final Steps has the absolute perfect balance between hard and managable. As long as everyone dodges the aoes and stays focused all is good. There are no unfair or frustrating mechanics, the damage is not too heavy at all times and while some aoes hit hard they are easy to dodge as long as you watch your positioning. I really like that fight and actually want to do it a few more times with other classes.
>>340398428
>DRG being mad about someone other than them using the LB3
Typical DRG.
>>340392168
objectively the best 24man raid to date, i haven't had this much fun in a while
i will be really sad if square has to pander to vocal turboshitters and nerf it down
Weeping City literally explains most of its mechanics in plain text either though boss dialogue or through debuff description.
If you can't even be arsed to read or look at the screen while you're playing the game, fuck right off and uninstall.
>>340392168
It's 220ilv content for fucks sake, not a tutorial boss
>>340398627
I'm so glad glad I was going hard on leveling my crafters before the patch. Blue scrips seems to be by far the easiest way to do the next step.
>>340398428
I had a guy who had like a super long ass RP macro for his limit break in Weeping City. It was pretty fucking cringe worthy.
>WoWfugees not knowing how to survive Megadeath
Next week red fenrir in ingame shop... thx jewi-p
>>340398556
>Use LB3
>Shit goes wrong soon after and a bunch of people die
>"Why did you use LB3?! Should've saved it for healer LB3!"
>>340398826
I saw that and somehow saw it coming, have had the real Fenrir for a few months anyway so I guess to laugh at the cash shop kiddies for spending real money on it.
Yet still easier than most WoD raid bosses. Most XIV fags would get smashed by Thromgar
>>340398990
There's no boss called Thromgar in World of DarknessFuck off, WoWfag
>>340398990
XIV fags would get smashed by everything, even decoy octopus
>>340398660
>gear durability is even a thing
>>340398990
Well, considering you can just faceroll your rotation in WoW I guess it must be easier to pay attention the the boss' mechanics.
>>340398990
Yeah its pretty difficult to follow DBM let me tell you mate.
>>340399161
You also get an addon that literally tells you when mechanics happen and what direction to move into.
>>340396634
and it's optional content, if it's too hard they should just deal
>>340392168
I found niddhogg to be harder, I still haven't beaten him.
>>340399379
Mhach is optional if you don't want your 240 lore upgrades yeah but Final Steps is a main story quest and is definitely not optional.
>>340399312
>an addon that literally tells you when mechanics happen and what direction to move into.
Is that for real? What's the point of playing an MMO if you use a mod that plays for you?
>>340398990
>WoD
And most WoW fags thought fucking normal mobs invanilla Everquest 2 were too fucking difficult.
How about you stop being a casual fucking shitter? It's enough that your casual shitfest of a game ruined the MMO genre and steadily forced competition to turn into casual shitfests of their own.
>>340399451
It's also the final boss of a long-running storyline that you don't need to do in order to tackle the expansion.
>>340399465
Yeah boss mods have been required by most raiding guilds since vanilla WoW. Blizzard designs encounters under the assumption your using boss mods.
FFXIV has a lot of indicators and such for mechanics but this is because there is no addons or an option for boss mods.
>>340398990
>The "WoW is Hard" meme
Please...stop.
>>340399427
In retrospect just thinking of the mechanics he's very simple, but at the time while playing it was pretty intense stuff.
Also the Nidstinien form is fucking rad.
>>340397348
being the only 24 man where you actually have to put in effort helps
They call it Weeping City because it will make you cry at how shit the players in this game are.
Anyone have a good strategy for dealing with the add phase in Nidhogg EX? Group I ran it with yesterday went snake, basilisk, and dragon for our kill order but getting the tank swapping down took a little time since the snake 2 shot the tank holding him if we didn't kill it fast enough to avoid 2 magic bulbs without using an ult CD, still a fun fight so fat.
>>340399576
Eh I only tried it once, maybe I'll give it another shot when I get home and the day one shitters will have left to complain on the fourms.
>>340397824
yes
and he's back to wipe your party just like he did in 9
>>340399675
It's pretty much all aoe dodging, and a dps check on the add phase. Niggas just need to calm down.
>>340399661
we kill basilisk>snake>dragon so you can just have the new tank swap over without issues
>>340399576
>Nidstinien's Geirskogul
>>340399661
Assign a ranged or a SCH to bait the fireballs away
Burn Brobinyak really fast and have the tank that tanked him provoke the eel off the other tank, then burn that one. If you do it fast enough stacks shouldn't present a problem.
Then kill the brawling dragon.
Keeping the cleaving adds close by naturally helps to Bane, but if Dragon walks between the two and he usually does it might not be necessary to reposition them at all.
>>340399759
What is this about circles I keep hearing.
>>340399576
Almost every mechanic in every tab-target hotbar MMO can be condensed into two lines:
>Dodge AoEs
>Kill adds
>>340397824
the music for the raid you fight him in is even a shoutout to FFIX
>>340399502
Are you seriously arguing that the main story quest is optional? Have you actually played the game at level cap? Massive amounts of content are gated behind the MSQ and newer content won't be accessible without doing it.
>>340399874
People think you have to stand in the circles to survive his ult because the game makes it really obvious you habe to.... but you don't.
>>340399874
It's a mechanic that doesn't exist but people think it does because they still don't know a simple DPS check when they see one.
>>340399874
Probably the where it goes from Nidhogg to Nidstinien phase where he does a big move and there's like 8 circles on the floor. A lot of people thought everybody had to stand in a circle to survive but it has nothing to do with that. Wether you survive or not all has do with if you killed the adds fast enough.
>>340399976
>>340399973
>>340399956
Ahhh ok. Good to know. Just kill fast like every other dps check.
>>340399953
>newer content won't be accessible without doing it.
They said several times (since before the release of Heavensward) that 4.0 MSQ won't require the completion of Dragonsong War, you'll just need to be level 60.
>>340398660
I actually forgot you could do this
>>340400106
Ah I stand corrected then. Probably a good move to not gate an expansion behind a massive amount of quests again like heavensward was.
>>340399953
Heavensward ended with you killing Thordan. There are even credits after that.
>>340398826
>The real one only takes about a week to get
>people will still drop $40 on this mount
>>340400307
What's the best MGP farm, Racing?
>>340400193
Probably because it's needlessly complicated and requires having nearly every crafter at 50 or higher.
I don't even know why they have 8 separate crafting classes when crafting is very obviously designed and balanced around the assumption that you will level all of them, because otherwise shit is just a pain. They could have just made 1 crafting class that could make everything, make it take 8 times as long to level, and the result would be the same.
That would be retarded though.
>>340400365
Yeah choco racing. Doing all the challenges alone is about 500k MGP. I have a grade 9 with max speed/endurance/stamina and can win every race. Get about 1500-1600MGP a win with the 50% event going on. Also do your challenge logs.
>>340400365
it is with the bonuses
back in 2.51 I got fenrir through TT
>>340400307
Maybe you can get 1 mil mgp in a week if you are an absolutely spastic autismo who grinds R-300 chocobo races 10 hours per day.
100k per week is a more realistic figure.
>>340392168
I havent played 3.3 yet, will do on the weekend. How is the new 25? Is that boss really that difficult?
>>340400459
>Max speed/endurance/stamina
Step it up sempai
Why is the raid finder only for Alexander, that is such bullshit. If they make on at least make it right and let people use it for extreme trials and 25 man raids as well. Having it only for alex is such a waste.
Did anyone try out double nidhogg ex
I heard the last phase is horseshit
>>340400543
Working on it m8. On my first grade 9 and just using my current one to MGP farm. Had to spend all that MGP on grade 3 feeds and want to get some use out of it.
>>340400512
Not really. Like all MMO bosses, the difficulty is in finding enough people who aren't complete fuck ups.
>>340400586
24-man is unnecessary, but not including the current Extreme in it is weird. I wish I could do Nidhogg with some bros that play on another server.
>>340399558
they made fracture usable? haven't played WAR since launch
>>340400680
I didn't even touch grade 2/3 feed until I had a perfect bo. It's just a waste of MGP if you're going to retire it anyway. You get exp whether you win or not.
>>340400660
It's the easiest extreme since Shiva. About as hard as A5S (not very). Only real new mechanics are in Estinien phase.
It depends
Were the mechanics actually difficult or was the system more like old WoW where the mechanics were actually simple but you literally needed good gear to beat the encounter?
>>340400660
it's pretty easy, i would say shiva extreme at release level of difficulty
>>340400702
>playing with friends on another server
honestly that'll be an awesome idea.
>Hullbreaker HM is the most boring and bland dungeon to date
Halitali HM is a close 2nd but holy shit this was unbearable. Why is everything involving 'training the Grand Companies' such literal garbage?
Not resubbing until Palace of the Dead, hopefully won't be nerfed before then.
All the shitters against parsers that want to nerf everything are ruining the game.
>they think SE won't nerf the shit out of it because the majority of casuals cries about it
>just like they nerfed coil along the way, alexander and steppes of faith
Sorry dudes, you're playing a casual as fuck mmo.
>>340400807
so is it just more damage/HP aside from that? because NM was fucking easy
>>340399558
This rotation and every rotation in XIV is boring and slowpaced, and besides the opener everything comes down to 'keep dots up and push the flashy button when it flashes'
It's a chore to endure the gameplay of this game after playing WoW/BnS/any faster paced MMO, and i played this shit for 3 years til 3.1.
>>340399427
>phase 3 kicks in
Healer quality is just shit in df. Cant heal for shit anymore and die to everything. Had to soloheal both Nidhogg and Ozma because the other healer just lay flat on the floor.
That being said I am having fun with the new dtuff. Hopefully they wont nerf it like they did with steps.. but that is entirely up to the JP server as SE listens a lot closer to their concerns.
>>340401296
nips clear savage in df, if they have to nerf it it's because of the shitty western audience
>>340392168
The last boss was more of a nightmare for my group than Ozma. We had 80% of our group get wiped to the combo axe plants into half room cleave and without a healer, we had to kill it from 16% with 2 dps and 2 tanks. Also warriors are OP as fuck.
>>340401296
DF healers are women that want to be carried.
>>340400978
I imagine the devs dying a little inside each time they nerf something
>>340401104
It's just regular "more of everything". More fireball bombs, more targeted AOEs, divebombs have no ground indicator, Akh Morn hits harder. The big difference is that Estinien phase is longer and has two new crucial mechanics (although fireballs in the last phase make you have to dodge them in a particular pattern, so I guess that's new).
>>340399923
Is there a link to the boss song yet?
>>340392168
Damn that looks like shit.
>>340401198
>Nidhogg begins casting Akh Morn.
As a SMN I'm having problems with my DOTS when doing 24 man content. If there are other SMN sometimes I can't see my own DOTS.
I play with the "show only my DOTS option" enabled.
>>340401935
PS3 limitations
The UI director already said that and literally "deal with it"
>>340401935
Your dots aren't working my man.
Console limitations please understand, smn aren't good for 24 content.
>>340401792
Ozma's theme (plays during a phase whete he sucks you into another dimension)
https://youtu.be/hAIrh0040S4
Mhach regular battle theme
https://youtu.be/pwOVnEIMMyM
>>340402035
>>340402059
B-but I'm playing on PC.
>>340401935
There's a limitation of 60 buffs/debuffs per entity but only 30 first applied will be shown. They're working but you won't seem them if they're past those 30 even if you have other players' dots hidden. Literal PS3 limitations.
Does anyone else think it's fucking GAY how the summoner only gets fucking little gay faggots for summons despite the fact that you fight all the real summons in the game?
Like I only played this gay piece of shit for like 13 hours but holy shit like how fucking gay are those little gay cunts the summoner summons. Carbuncle is the only real eidolon the summoner gets?
Fucking gay.
>>340402548
Gay
>>340402109
Don'tmatter.
We didn't get a fucking TP bar until 3.1 because the PS3 couldn't handle it. PS3 is running below 30fps and has 3minute loads now in dungeons; yet it's still supported.
>>340402548
You have to be 16+ in order to play this game and 18+ to browse this board.
>>340402095
Hey, Ozma's intermission music is a variation of Void Ark theme!
tfw 24-man is cooler and more interesting than the actual hardcore raid
>>340402109
PS3 support is rumored to be dropped with PS3 but yoshi p won't give a straight answer on it.
>>340403292
I mean patch 4.0 too tired for this.
>it's another nice bodied monster girl with a body your character will never have episode
>>340402548
You sound pretty gay bro
>>340398361
thats happened to a lot of people in the groups I was in. It's just that people die so much its rediculous.
>Running DF, roulette
>Mnk and drg both say to save the LB for the last boss
>All they want to do is do their anime style final blow
>Playing my sch
>Boss gets to 30%
>Pop lb
>Both mnk and drg say WTF?
>Mnk drops, we still finish the encounter, I just set my fairy to sic and I focus on DPS
>Drg calls me a faggot, leaves
>Blm said he thought it was funny
>MFW
>get to Ozma the first time
>fall off
>>340398768
>implying you have the time to stand there, unmoving,reading something and puzzling out what to do about it.
>>340404041
It's actually really hard to fall off during the fight itself - Holy is a really muted pushback and you have to be retarded to walk off yourself, so I wonder if that was just a way to wake up people used to Netflixing alliance raids.
>>340404173
Yes you do. What do you think's gonna happen, enrage? Or is it wiser to just keep pressing random buttons and hoping you succeed?
>Heavensward MSQ
I heard people say it was actually good, unlike ARR's snoozefest, but this feels like snoozefest 3.0.
Does it ever pick up?
>2016
>playing MMOsIt's been over 5 years and you shitcucks still haven't learned.
>>340404683
>costanzaposting is 5 years old already
fug
>>340398769
This is the biggest problem with the raid, the fact that it's minimum iLvl is 205.
It should instead be a minimum of 215 at the least. That would help eliminate the shitters dying to literally ONE mistake due to their lack of maximum health.
>>340404915
No thanks, I'd rather not grind lore, eso were enough.
>>340404915
Are you retarded? The difference between 205 and 215 isn't that big (and can becme negligible when debuffs such as Vuln up come into play) and also accessories don't carry VIT unless you're a tank so sometimes there's literally no HP difference.
>>340396890
Its:
>positioning or kill raid
>dps boss to death
>don't fall off
>dps race when he sucks you in with a atomos lite mechanic from lota
Has anyone tried the aquapolis yet? How is it?
>>340405070
Even doing Midas normal for 220 pieces is piss easy. The weekly cap on loot is gone you could easily get a full 220 set in a day.
test
>>340398887
While this is true, saving healer lb3 when your party clearly has no grasp of the fight is actually worth it.
Saving lb3 in ravana for healer to fuck over the sword mechanic is actually a valid strat.
>>340406001
You mean get 1 bolt a day doing nothing but midas for 24 hours.
>>340392168
nidhogg normal mechanics are super simple and obvious at glance, the rest is just dodge fire.
Weeping city of memes does have some involved mechanics to it that require raid awareness but they aren't super complex.
post Calofisteri feet
>>340406097
>for healer to fuck over the sword mechanic
???
How is "Oh well, people died due to retardation, HEALER LB" a valid strat at all?
>>340406660
I'm assuming you've never tried it?
If your dps is actually good, ensuring that a healer survives after the sword mechanic can definetely save the raid from a wipe and get a clear since LB was never necessary for his shield and the dps check isn't tight enough to require an LB.
Did it numerous times when teaching people how the sword mehanic works.
>>340407412
Or just get good and do the mechanic properly so LB can go towards actually ending the fight sooner. It's a crutch, not a strat. A strat is something you do intentionally after analyzing the fight, like "Teraflare hits too hard so we can't use caster LB3 for the adds".
Age
>only iLv 202
{Please assist}
>>340409010
Do Midas or just buy 220 off MB
>>340404267
I think it miiiight've been a subtle hint for people to shove forward (to avoid the circling orbs).
>>340409147
I bought a house so I'm poor now, and winning all 18 items from Midas is going to take an eternity.
I know these are the only options, but it's shit they can call this a catch-up patch when ultimately you're still permanently behind everyone else- and doubly fucked if you can't reach the minimum iLv to attempt endgame stuff like primals before the competent players get their clears.
>>340398428
Fuck you. If you use a LB and the boss is dead you did it wrong.
>Ozma returns
That is awesome. I don't know how a chromatic spinning orb became so cool in my eyes. Possibly because it gives a sort of "you cannot comprehend this enemy" vibe, like that colorful orb is the best your mind can come up with to give it form.
>The achievement for finishing the 3.3 MSQ is called "Floor the Horde"
>they added a goblin NPC in Idyllshire that can meld materia for you
Fucking neat.
>That idiot that keeps falling on Ozma
>That retard that keeps stacking the meteor aoe
>That braindead that keeps eating triangle's beam
>That useless tank that doesn't move when square
>AFTER 1 HOUR WORTH OF TRIES
It's like they are doing it on purpose. I can understand it's the 2nd day and people is still learning, but after 5 tries you SHOULD know the fucking basics.
>That subnormal that keeps dying at MegaDeath
FUCK YOU.
>>340410245
It's your fault you're THAT far behind. The patch isn't even officially called catch-up patch, it's more like a patch for for casuals to catch up to hardcore raiders.
>>340410483
Just don't gaze into the abyss.
>>340410908
>It's your fault you're THAT far behind.
No, it's SE's fault for releasing unsatisfactory patches up until now; and that endgame is so impenetrable to anyone unfortunate enough to miss the first fortnight of a progression patch.
I missed the first two weeks of 3.2 due to real life commitments, ergo I may as well quit because no raiding static is going to pick me up and I missed all the Seph EX learning parties (or at least the ones not filled with what I can only assume are people coming off heavy anaesthesia). And so I did unsubscribe.
>>340411186
Wellcome to every MMO.
There's always a static or FC looking for new people for the high end content. Search better.
What's the best relic stats for BRD these days? Working on the new relic step.
>>340392168
IT'S A FUCKING MARBLE
>>340410846
>that piece of shit who claims he explained everything
>forgot a instakill mechanic
>those shitters who pretend to know the fight and complain
>they leave after several wipes
>suddenly alliance gets through
>those twoe groups that complain about the third
>the third is actually the good one and still does less mistakes with a few dying to the errors of the other two
I demand one Ozma in every future content.
>>340410846
Finally cleared Weeping City just now with a raid of nearly all newbies. Fucking 2-shot Ozma and 1-shot Fister. Blissful. Only problem is some retard didn't move when he got his meteor circle on ozma and nearly killed us all.
>>340407412
>Healer LB3
I don't think I've ever seen an attempt get rescued by this. Why? Because everyone comes back with res sickness which kills their HP/defense and causes them to instantly die to the first raidwide AoE. I fucking hate res sickness because half the time it defeats the point of rezzing, since the player will probably die again almost immediately to undodgable mechanics anyway.
>crafted over 300 hq max potions of strength in the past hour
thank you crafting nerf
>>340410754
This changes everything.
>>340410754
They're not just in Idyllshire, they're in all the major cities.
So glad I don't have to beg crafter autists now.
>>340412452
>never seen a run rescued by this
Assuming i have dps that are at least good at dps, I can save a ravana run every single time with healer LB3, as long as people make sure to keep me alive after everyone fucks up the sword mechanic.
This doesn't just apply to ravana either, its a matter of knowing when to do it because of the massive animation lock.
Like the other anon said, its a crutch but you can definetely strategize around it if your group is having trouble with a certain mechanic.
Also 70% of healer players are garbage, 20% are tryhard normalfags that think they are doing good, 10% are actually good.
I'm tired of this, what job should I level up to be able to repair my gear myself?
>>340413193
all of themexcept CUL but level it anyway
>that guy in your FC who complains about every single party he gets for a duty sucking without realizing what all those parties had in common
>>340413193
Literally all of them.
>>340413334
I'M RAIDING WITH THE MAN IN THE MIRROR
Should I focus on upgrading my left side lore gear first, or should I upgrade a ring early so I can get another 230 ring to replace my 220 midan one?
>>340412452
>I don't think I've ever seen an attempt get rescued by this.
I once saved a T13 run with healer LB3 back in 2.5. Granted, we were rather well-geared by that point, but still.
>>340412452
>I don't think I've ever seen an attempt get rescued by this
I've seen some Alexander saved thanks to the healer LB. What I've never witnessed is a raid saved because of Tank LB3.
>>340414484
I don't think I've ever even seen a Tank LB3. Their uses are preposterously limited.
I think tank LBs would be better if they were a damage prevention shield instead of a % damage reduction.
>>340414484
>What I've never witnessed is a raid saved because of Tank LB3.
I've done it when people failed to destroy the caged-off adds on cloud of darkness.
>>340414705
Tank LB3 was used in Ultima's Bane for the last Aetheric Boon and in T13 for Teraflare. That's it. There's literally no reason to ever use it otherwise.
I've never seen a WAR LB3 actually used in-game with my own eyes, but I did see a DRK LB3.
>>340414847
>last aetheric boom
You can do that easily without tank LB, just coordinate
>We're sorry we had to postpone Warring Triad storyline because our budget only allows for one trial boss and that's gotta be Nidhogg
>But here, have this completely uneventful inconsequential solo instance with a reused boss that's even less interesting than he was in a Lv59 mission.
>>340415175
At least the music was nice.
>>340392168
Why is there no midcore content in this game? You got casual content that you can AFK and still beat and then you got savage content that requires coordination and minmaxing to beat. There's no in-between.
>>340410483
need more uncomprehensible eldritch horror bosses
>>340415468
Extreme primals are supposed to be that
>>340415579
and they are shit. They become irrelevant after one week and eventually become casual content through the power of echo and catchup gear.
>>340415850
Even the hardcore raids eventually become irrelevant and overgeared. This game is just prone to throwing content under the bus.
>>340416053
Which is why this game needs to switch to a horizontal progress system in 4.0
>>340392168
I'm about to weeping city for the first time.
What should I expect other than wipes?
Does this nigger marble even have a rng oneshot meteor here?
>>340416696FFIX
>>340410754
I never really understood materia. I thought it was something only people who tackled savage raids cared about?
Can a casual like me do it now? I've just been selling the materia I get from beast tribes and the machi matter.
>>340416904
He has a DPS check phase called Doomsday that drops a meteor on you if you fail.
>>340416352
What's exactly this "horizontal progress"? How would it differ from what we have now?
>>340416696
disbands
>>340392168
I fucking love this raid. All content in this patch aside from borebreaker was good. hullbreaker hard was a fucking snoozefest of a dungeon, you can't even speedpull it
>>340417104
You can put materia in almost everything level 20+. You can do it yourself if you have the correct crafting class and level. Only a weaver for example can meld materia into a weaver item. The gear stats tell you which crafter is required.
To learn how to meld materia you have to do a quest. Forgot where it starts.
>>340417383
Horizontal progression is a make believe word. No matter how many options or possible builds/stats/items you cram into the game, if your primary content is still scripted boss fights then the only things that matter are whatever will make you do the optimized amount of DPS/healing/mitigation. Adding shit like resistances doesn't help, it just means you have to farm and store multiple sets of whatever for each encounter.
Horizontal or non-linear progression and playstyles can only truly exist in a game where the primary content incorporates a dynamic and changing meta where opponents can act and react according to actions or strategies you yourself make. i.e. it's a game based around pvp.
>>340417104
Its really only required for savage raids but there is absolutely no reason now not to have unmelded gear and you lose a lot of stats from being unmelded. With the new NPC all you do is pay a small fee and select the piece of gear and materia.
Find out what your best stat is (quick google search will prob tell you) and just stack it. Some pieces will already be capped on a stat and just put in your second best stat. It should be very simple for you since your not in savage and accuracy caps are pretty irrelevant for you.
>>340417164
I kept seeing "20 seconds to doomsday" thinking something bad was going to happen then I realized where it applies because we were way ahead of the DPS check.
>>340417485
They really dropped the ball with Hullbreaker. Nothing but gates and linear paths.
>>340418513
It is like a worse version of halatali hard. at least that one had bigass pulls and the fun traps you could debuff the enemies with if you were good.
this one is just... boring. it's like if they put the first part of ffxiii in xiv and made it a dungeon, it is literally a corridor simulator.
>>340418513
That's literally every 3.0 dungeon. This game's content has always been linear as fuck. At best the early dungeons had maybe one or two side paths you could take to fight more trash and get an extra treasure coffer, but that's it.
>>340418245
>make a smart AI for bosses
>no one ever kills it ever
i love the idea you know
>>340418716
>>340418513
>>340417485
Speedrunfags go home.
>>340418880
Your typical MMO player doesn't like fights like that because they're actually hard.
Reminds me of the faction champions fight in WoW (wotlk) where instead of a typical boss you fought against an NPC party who behaved more like players (would ignore aggro, go after healers, etc). They were smart enough to use invulnerabilities/heals when they were being focused as well.
People hated the shit out of that because all their scripts suddenly weren't applicable anymore, and they'd lost, or never had the ability to think critically and adapt.
>>340417383
Right now the game uses a vertical progression system like WoW. You progress by getting better item level gear which has better incremental stats. HP goes up and so does damage in a vertical way. Everyone at the endgame will eventually wear the same exact gear and progress their stats the same exact way.
Horizontal progression is where item levels don't exactly matter and people can progress their character outside of just getting +2 stats on better item level gear. An example is sort of like FFXI where gear obtained years ago is still relevant and useful today because it provides a certain ability or job bonus. PSO is also another example where higher rare star items doesn't mean exactly mean better. Certain equipment have passive or active special effects which can influence how your character plays. For instance, a spellcasting character can become a viable melee user through proper itemization like using a double saber where it's special attack consumes magic points to create a powerful attack or demonic fork can passively cause your megid to pierce through enemies.
TL;DR: Horizontal progression means there's other ways to improve your character other than increasing item levels.
>>340395775
>>340397969
this all the way, WoW is easier than a mario game for kids, and constantly getting easier and easier for casual babies
>>340418880
That reminds me of Wildstar, where bosses had 100 mechanics and players were unable to kill shit.
>>340407412
I bet you are the type of person who saves dungeon lb for bosses and not trash.
Anyone who isn't trash in a trash group that has brain cells does not need healer lb 3 at all.
>>340419429
what is wrong with trying my hardest to see how fast i can clear content that i've cleared 50 times before. what else am i supposed to do
>>340419754
>the mage/bard refuse to LB the trash pack to speed up the run
this should be illegal.
>>340405892
I fucking hate positioning
>Oh by the way, this boss has an instagib attack, but to avoid it just stand in this arbitrary pattern that we only know by failing or from other people
I can accept having to learn attacks, etc. Not that shit.
>>340419768
Nothing, but the devs don't like it when you do it with players new to that content. That's why they have been trying to design dungeons as speedrun unfriendly as possible.
>>340419754
>>340419861
Maybe stop doing subpar damage on those trashmobs, maybe then you'd be faster and can use the LB to finish bosses faster as well?
>>340412452
>I fucking hate res sickness because half the time it defeats the point of rezzing, since the player will probably die again almost immediately to undodgable mechanics anyway.
LB3 shouldn't have it. Basically all fo the content in this patch just instantly slays anyone with res sickness.
>>340420130
If i don't get the "new person in this dungeon take it easy herpa derp" message or nobody says "i'm new/ i dont know what to do/first time healing" etc it's fucking go time.
>dogshit economy
>long gcd (better now, but still a problem)
>more boring rotations than fucking wow
>zero customization
>looks like a more polished korean mmo
>no
>fucking
>content
SE should turn it into Scarlet Blade 2.0 to get some subs back.
>>340420130
>letting limit break bar be stuck at full thus wasting resources
>limit break on aoe packs will objectively be worth more damage than single target
>single target bosses are just there to let the party load mp/tp for the next big aoe pull
>implying any boss should be LB'd unless you somehow don't have an aoe LB
>>340420130
>Maybe stop doing subpar damage on those trashmobs, maybe then you'd be faster and can use the LB to finish bosses faster as well?
That's pointless.
Ranged LB does half the damage of a melee LB.
So if you use it on 2 mobs it's the same.
3+ it's actually better damage.
Basically if you're saving it for bosses, you're losing time.
>>340397718
>Tfw little Lala and wants /pets
>>340420980
>interacting with subhuman potato scum
>ever
get out of my group i hate you more than people with weaboo names
>>340419754
>projecting
>>340421095
>putting up with WoWrefugee weebs over pro lala memesters
>>340421248
people who play lala played gnome/panda in wow. they are literally the worst kind of people
even tataru are no this horriblu
should I use tornado kick if I have perfect balance up?
>>340421412
no, only use it if you are going to lose your stacks anyway, like phase changes /invulnerability phases
>>340421401
and people who play as cats are night elves and people who play as Au'ra are dreanei
>>340421630
brogadyn/human is the only way to go.
>>340392168
whats a populated server to start on feel like getting into a mmo
>>340421560
>>340421572
Outside of opener and reviving from death, when should I use Perfect Balance then?
>>340421989
You don't. You keep it for when you need it.
>>340421825
Leviathan, Gilgamesh, Excalibur, Exodus, Ultros
>>340421989
when you have litany and the mch buff up so you can spam snap punches while buffed to hell and back. assuming you won't die later in the fight.
>>340422057
>>340422148
I don't know who to believe more
>>340421825
Legacy Servers.
Like Ragnarok on EU.
>>340422435
If you have to ask, you shouldn't use it.
>>340421825
Ultros or Leviathan
>>340422525
But wouldn't that be a waste of a good cooldown? I could have used it to increase my DPS if I didn' die during a fight.
>>340392168
Is weeping city actually hard? I thought it was supposed to be casual content.
>>340421401
I mained Warrior Tauren on WoW and now I'm playing Lala. Just for the contrast.
>>340423038
It's the hardest 24 man raid yet.
>>340423038
> I thought it was supposed to be casual content.
It's casual content but we are still on the 2nd day, the dungeon punishes A LOT any mistake and scrubs keep dying at mechanics.
It's the hardest 24 man raid tho.
>>340423062
FUCKING WOWFUGEES
>>340423062
I used to play as a Tauren Shaman, now I'm a LalafellMNK
>>340392168
Ok serious talk should I try out FFXIV (I don't really care enough about it but i'm semi interested).
I bought WoD and had alright time levelling but quickly stopped after dungeoning/dailies at max level.
Enjoyed wildstar (especially combat) but eventually quit because dungeoning was a struggle at high level as people were retards and the raid attunement took forever.
Play FF games but don't particularly enjoy them, they are decent but nothing special.
>>340402548
It turned me off because in all the other games the summons are badass but in this they are like fucking pokemon.
>>340423482
Play the free trial up to level 30 so you can get your first job. If you enjoy the game buy it, if you don't then uninstall and let your trial end.
>All this crafting gear that doesn't involve shitty fucking favors
Awesome, I care about crafting again.
>>340398112
what's worse is that's characters, not players. Their retention rate is the worst of any mmo to date.
>>340419520
To be fair with faction champs, they were still scripted, it was just more complicated than most bosses. They behaved very predictably, there were just a lot of them behaving very predictably in response to a lot more variables than bosses usually respond to (AKA only aggro).
>>340424113
All Themepark MMOS have a shitty retention rate, there's no reason to stick around once you realize how the skinnerbox works.
>Mfw some guy in raid finder reported me for "spoilering" the fight for him
>>340418245
>>340419646
would monster hunter fall into this category?
>>340424596
In a way yes.
>>340392168
If anything they need to buff ozmashade. We keep killing it with 35-45 seconds left on doomsday
>>340392168
That's... a pretty cool nostalgia grab, but your game still sucks ass.
brd still sucks
>>340423317
Chill dude, that pic is 7 years old. I stopped playing WoW when swtor was released, and stopped Swtor when ARR was released.
>>340392168
is this worlds.com?
>>340425107
What about the Knights of the Round?
