Why nerf McCree, why not OP characters like D.va or Roadhog
>>340367942
lol
Why not nerf zenyatta too whilst were at it.
>>340367942
Cool bait
If you're going to shitpost you gotta make it semi-believable
>>340367942
d va is confirmed getting a buff
>>340367942
Good way to start the thread
Tbh I'm not sure why Roadhog isn't receiving a nerf. The Hook -> Kill is basically the same thing as what Mccree is getting shit for, just with a crazy range.
>>340371878
>melts tanks with a zero cooldown ability
>heal is a buff that persists through wall temporarily
>is able to top damage and healing
>but nah, let's nerf the champ that has to be withing spitting distance of you to do any damage
lmao
>>340372829
Because he gives free ult charge and can't mitigate for the team.
>lower damage on fan
Even he does a little more trouble killing tanks he'll still be an OP character that dominates competitive. His flashbang is just fundamentally too strong.
>>340372829
He doesn't melt literally everyone like McCree does, and his hook isn't a guaranteed thing like the winbang.
McCree's probably is that he shits on EVERYONE with his combo, even the tanks whose job it is to harass him away just get stunned and killed instantly
>>340367942
They need to buff Mercy.
>>340373161
Just make the Fan do 150 damage if all shots connect.
>>340373319
If they do that then they need to nerf how fast she gets her ult, because that shit is ALWAYS up
>>340372829
They need to shorten his chain a little bit. The hook/kill combo is fine, but it shouldn't reach 10 fucking miles away.
>>340373319
Haha, no.
Keep your eyes on the ult charge after she just revived 3 people.
I like roadhog but I think he is more suited to a 2nd tank or in a very very offensive team. Maybe do something to make his self heal also buff the group,
>>340372829
If a Roadhog takes a sippy in front of you, you just got a free 25% ult charge, minimum.
>enemy team has two Mercies on attack
>switch to Turbo John
>get 12 kills in 30 seconds because why the fuck would anyone want to be alive again where they just died
And while we're at it where's my Pharah buff?
>>340374097
Pharrah is fine, just make widow have 150hp so she stops getting BTFO every time in that matchup.
>>340374034
>Mercy resurrects only me in the middle of like 6 enemies
GEE THANKS
the only hero that objectively needs a nerf is widowmaker because the only real hard counter is another widowmaker.
any other heroes can be strongly debated on whether or not they need nerfs or not.
>>340374468
Winston counters her, but I agree she needs a nerf.
Preferably on her charge and fire rate.
>>340374468
Jesus, that dva is shit. She just got incredibly lucky.
>>340374097
>>340374206
I think Pharah just needs to be able to move during her ult. It should be really slow like how Mcree slow walks, but it's stupid how I have to hold off using the ult because I know I'll just die after getting one kill.
>>340374686
don't look at me, I just save whatever potgs I happen to find
>>340373161
it has a short ass range and you have to be like right in front of it for it to stun you. It can literally go past you.
You're only stunned just long enough to get killed by the fan. Ranged heroes easily counter mcree, he's not hard to deal with. The flashbang is not at all op.
>>340374097
That fang is so moe.
>>340374798
That's why competitive teams all run double McCree.
Because he's fine.
>>340374747
Slow movement doesn't matter in the slightest because you're still firing off 90% of your JUSTAUGH while floating out in the open. Just accept that your ult needs to be paired with a crowd control ult or other form of distraction.
>>340367942
Go to /vg/ you spamming daggots
>>>/vg/
>>340374768
Pervert midget.
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>>340374468
jesus, she doesn't even aim at bastions weak point
>>340375093
Jeeez. That's when you quit the game.
>>340374747
That still won't save you from a Widow
>>340375093
Why would he ever think to push it towards his own spawn? What the fuck?
>>340374953
Like Blizzard, or Blackhole
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>>340375373
Nice.
>>340375373
Fucking brilliant.
>>340367942
McCree is OP but it's not insurmountable.
If McCrees short-range game is nerfed than all the casuals will jump ship to reaper.
I think McCree should be nerfed but in a way that incentivizes more use for him than just being a short-range flank & shank.
I would give his hammer fan a 10 second cooldown but increase its accuracy.
The hammer fan is currently OP and also spammable due to their being no cooldown for it. Combined with the roll-reload it's a broken tactic as it stands.
>>340375373
Nice q press you fucking faggot.
>>340375536
>>340375545
>>340375653
>>340375373
>it's only a highlight
>bastion would have been the one to get potg judging by the kill-feed at the start
I'd be salty as fuck.
>>340375373
>Highlight
Let me guess.
Bastion got PotG in stationary turret mode?
Another Overwatch thread, huh? :) epic game my friend.
>>340374969
Oh and Witcher 3 and DS3 didn't flood the board right? Or remember when 50% of this board was TF2? It will subside after a while just filter Overwatch, McCree and mabye Mei and D.Va for the time being.
>>340373716
This. For real, they need to nerf her ult. It needs to charge slower.
>>340367942
There's actually nothing OP about McCree if you're not a herpderp retard who walks close to him. Widow, Soldier 76, Reaper, Junkrat, Pharah counter him EASILY.
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>>340375719
its not mine
highlight or not it was a pretty good play so i saved it as a potg anyways
>>340372847
Well he's weaker than tissue paper and slow so... yeah.
>>340373319
Delete this sick filth
Fan is likely losing damage, hell still be a duelist, he'll just have to respect certain tanks.
>>340375812
Fuckin' a
>>340375812
Since when are POTGs actually good?
>>340376002
aka just roadhog
fan > roll > fan still easily dispatchs the other tanks, especially winston who can't kill mccree fast enough
>>340375804
yeah I'll just not go within 10 meters of any door, overhang, or corner, so McCree can't pop out and winbang me. I've seen them do it further than 10 meters too, wait for an enemy to pass by a doorway, combat roll out, flashbang+fth, then back into the shadows.
>>340376170
It's a highlight
>>340373716
Her Ult in held back by the fact that it's only reactive, it's worthless until somebody dies. Always go for her first or you lose the fight. Every other Ult can be use to start a fight, end it, or used anywhere in between. As long as you get the Mercy first, her Ult is pretty garbage.
>>340374468
Widowmaker's counter is anyone smart enough to get through choke points.
D.Va, Genji/Hanzo and Winston can make short work of her. Just boost up close and knock her out of her nest. Avoid her one poison mine and you're fine.
Widowmaker's primary fire is so weak it can't event knock over the popcorn in the movie theatre spawn point.
>>340376002
Which is all it needs really. His duelling capabilities are his 'thing'. Being able to instafuck chars like tracer and genji is what he's built for. But the fact that he can melt tanks like butter is retarded and needs to be fixed.
Its should be be that fan does less damage the higher hp the enemy has. But im not a game designer so what the fuck do I know?
>>340375812
kek
someone need to do Jojo roundabout edit
>>340372829
For some reason Roadhog rarely kills me after a hook, it's more of a temporary inconvenience. Probably just playing against shitters.
>>340376170
when the widowmaker makes it so the bastion spends more time dead than in turret form.
>>340376128
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>>340367942
his flash shouldn't work on someone's backside
that's the only nerf I'd give him honestly
>>340374468
Winston's a hard counter, m8. I've never lost to a lone Widow once I'm right in her face.
I think they'll either nerf the fan damage or make it so that the flashbang duration is shorter depending on if the target actually has vision of it (similar to CS flashbangs).
Imo junkrat is one of the strongest heroes right now. The amount of damage he is able to continuously spew is pretty ludicrous.
>>340375367
don't even need that, just need a Zarya that's aware and in LoS
>be Roadhog
>hook Mcree
>he flashbangs me and double fans to instantly kill me before I can kill him
cool
>>340376751
>junkrat has the best lines
>junkrat has the best potg animations
>junkrat has the best emotes
>junkrat has the worst skins
why blizzard, you were so close to making perfection
>>340373765
Roadhog doesn't sippy, he vapes.
He takes some chunky tips and blows fat cotton.
>>340376874
>junkrat skins
>bad
wot
>>340376808
be quicker on the draw, fuccboi. I play roadhog and I can kill mccrees 100% of the time after landing a hook on them barring some freak explosion of lag
literally hook, shoot and punch in quick succession and its a dead mccree every single time.
>>340376808
is the window after hook long enough to throw flashbang? i tried to use Genji E on roadhog few time but it never worked
>>340376874
>Hayseed
>Jester
>Jailbird
>bad
>>340376974
A shot and melee isn't enough to drop a McCree at full HP.
>>340376874
hayseed is pretty great but I'd like to see a junkrat christmas elf skin where his nades are the orb ornaments, conc mine is a wrapped present and beartrap is made of candycanes. riptire could be a wreath
>>340376991
I play mei the window is long enough to freeze myself
>>340377121
It is outside of freak RNG events.
>>340367942
>play as Genji
>dash cut people and run away every time
>they try to chase after me but they're too slow
>my team overwhelms them as their backs are turned
>Their scattered team starts dying to my dash attacks as I pick off the injured
The balance of this game is fine. Turrets and hammerfan could use some minor tweaking but that's all.
>>340377410
genji should be reclassified as a support character, he's so good at just harassing and distracting the enemy and making concentrated attacks difficult because he's throwing ninja stars into your mercy's asshole. I don't think harassing like Genji does should be considered offense since you can do the exact same thing just as well on defense.
>>340377121
if you do it right the hook combo will kill a 200HP hero every single time
>>340376369
what if the flashbang just puts all abilities on cooldown for a second or two? Allows tanker heroes to try and fight back or move, but still fucks weaker heroes. Maybe a nerf on FtH too
>>340377695
And by "do it right" he means "click on the face."
>>340377695
>tfw bad at aiming it somehow
>>340377695
a lot of people don't hold m1 when the hook lands so it fires immediately when it's possible
>>340374468
>Not hitting the GLOWING WHITE STICKING OUT box for double damage
I don't even think that 80% of the playerbase know that this is a thing.
>>340378191
its not very intuitive at first glance, in their defense
when looking at bastion transform it's difficult to tell where the head moves to and people chalk up the real weak point as just an aesthetic design aspect of Bastion's turret mode
>>340375367
>>340374953
>>340374747
Her Ult is much better when you use it as a Finisher and not as a Starter.
KOTH and 2 out of 6 enemies are dead? Justice the rest.
If you go for full health enemies they'll just gib you, but if you go for enemies that just got out of a fight or are in one, you'll clean them all before they have time to react.
>>340367942
>not playing OP chars like Blueberry and McRightClick
Don't you want to win? Why play weak chars? What's the mindset behind this?
>>340377695
Is the alt-fire the same attack as the left-click? I know that I've OHKO a Pharah from full health with the alt-fire.
>>340372403
Feels like they stealth buffed her because her chainguns are tearing me apart now
>>340378443
his m2 is basically his m1 only medium range where the ball detonates.
>>340378443
No. No you haven't.
>>340378443
Right click is a ball that explodes after some distance traveled. It doesn't deal as much damage when it's in the ball form, but it's like the regular left click once it exploded.
It's a mid range shotgun.
>>340375712
>>340375719
Not mine, but say the original on
>>340378652
So what does it mean when the 100 pops up beside her death?
>>340378443
alt fire is a delayed shotgun blast.
basically, it shoots out the big chunk of metal, and if that hits someone while it's still in chunk form it will do some damage. Not a lot, but a fair amount. but once it splits apart it after a set distance it becomes a normal shotgun blast, so with the right spacing you can get a perfect meatshot right in somebodies face from a few feet away just like if you had it shoved right up against their face which is what can really fuck somebody up
>>340378795
you did 100% of the damage to kill them
>>340378652
It definitely can one shot 200 hp classes.
>>340374747
Nah. She could really use at least 250 HP and a faster firing rate.
>play lucio/mercy
>have a bit of fun
>win
>play reaper/roadhog/junkrat
>have a lot of fun
>lose more often than not
Fucking hate support roles
>>340378973
one or the other, not both. giving pharah both would be overkill
>>340375804
>He only plays against shitters who never press m1
Stop acting like mccree is bad at range, cause hes not if you can aim
>>340378652
Yes I'm sure he has. I do it all the time.
If you get the range right, that alt fire is powerful as fuck
>>340379091
>learn to wall ride properly as lucio
>become spiderman and contest points forever because nobody can see me hopping around on the roof
lucio is pretty damn fun once you get the hang of it
Ilios and Lijiang Tower is where he really shines with that wall ride bullshit
>>340372829
The kill really only occurs on 200hp characters, anyone 250 or above is safe from the first combo and certain characters like Reaper can just ghost/blink whatever the fuck away if the server decides to let them.
He also has 0 armour and is just a big fat ult building machine, more of an off tank than a main one.
>>340377647
It's the same thing that Tracer does, they're all about getting into the back line and fucking with people.
Plus if Genji was a support imagine the stupidity of solo support Symmetra but now with stupid weeaboos instead.
>>340379337
>if you headshot you deal 140 damage
it's terrible
>>340379369
Any tips?
>>340379427
symmetra should be reclassified as a defense hero, while we're on that topic
>>340379441
>he thinks headshots with mccree are hard
lmao
>>340379526
learn the polygons of the structures on the map
once you know where the flat surfaces are that you can wall ride climbing right up a wall and staying there becomes infinitely easier.
note I say learn the polygons but you can get away with getting a feel for the timing of doing the wall jumps, its just that for me it was easier to observe where the surfaces actually are rather than rely on instinct.
>>340378401
its called having fun
>>340379526
spam jump and run chaotically near walls
you're so hard to hit with speed on, or even off
>>340376304
The biggest fucking problem it's so fucking hard to hit her while she's flying and you wasted your CDs killing her teammates as she mashes her uninterruptable Q midair or shes hiding in god knows where until everyone dies holy fuck that ult pisses me off so much there's no reason why the game should turn upside down because of this shit
>>340379608
On that topic they shouldn't have shipped with two viable supports.
Or without a notification for "low team healing"
Zenyatta cannot heal an entire team on his own.
I'm sick of playing fucking Lucio
>>340377695
do you aim at the upper body? i feel like im missing some pellets when i go for the face
>>340380090
if they didn't gut zenyatta and symmetra they would still be viable as supports
though straight up strong heals trump them any day, both would still be more useful than they are now to the team.
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