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Why do people seem to just give le no skill charge man a free
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Why do people seem to just give le no skill charge man a free pass to be an annoying cunt?
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>>340364548
you can sidestep the charge

you can focus fire on his shield to remove it pretty quickly

you can stay at medium range to avoid his fire strike/ult
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Leave him alone
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Because he's not overpowered in any way? Because he's a useful character who plays his role effectively but can also be pretty easily countered?
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>>340364850
that's bullshit why can't I just left click everybody MOOOOOOM
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>>340364548
Why did you think it was appropriate to ask this question outside of the other ten Overwatch threads? Is this question entire thread worthy?

A good person would delete this shit, then repost in an active thread.
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>don't stand in front of him or next to him
>he never kills you or does anything other than maybe his ranged ability on you
>side step it's slow ass speed
He's probably the most balanced character imo.
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>>340364548
He needs hard nerfs.

>Melee attack should be 35-45 not 75
>Charge attack should do 100 not 300
>Shield should block 1000 damage not 2000 damage
>All laser/hooks/etc abilities should bypass his shield
>Melee attack range need to be lowered
>Melee swing should be slower
>Melee attacks shouldn't cleave

He should either block damage or deal damage.. not both.

I'm not saying all of those nerfs should happen, but they're just ideas. (Shitty retarded ideas at that considering I don't like Reinhardt players.)
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>>340365101
I wouldn't say that. D.va, Roadhog... besides his buggy 20 tick rate hooks, Zarya are all more balanced than Reinhardt
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>>340365167
You just sound like a buttblasted scrub.
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>>340365275
Roadhog's ult literally melts people and as long as he lands a hook it's an insta kill if you're not dumb. D.va is pretty underwhelming imo and zarya is pretty balanced too.
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>>340365286
Pretty much am. Started playing Mei because of Reinhardt. 10/10 am shit at the game, but am not a retard to understand how to counter heroes.
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>>340365167
>Faggot opionion
>Knows hes a faggot
>posts a ugly fat bitch cos playing as mei
fucking cancer
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>>340365413
Roadhog's ult melts people to a certain degree.

>He kind of counters himself by pushing people away, and that is what makes him balanced.

That is true for certain Hp characters, but Roadhog right now is bugged with his hook. He can't land the combo to instant kill some characters because the hook doesn't pull them close enough. Hanzo for example.

>D.Va is in an okay spot if they gave her more to do outside of Mech, but yeah pretty true.

Zarya relies on a coordinated team. If you have that... GG.
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>>340364548
>playing casual game
>upset something is casual
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Lot more heroes that need a look before Rein. He's effective but never ARGH-worthy.
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>>340365413
The problem with D.Va is that she's like the halfway point between Reaper and Winston. She has neither the former's killing power or the latter's suitability and the only reason to pick her over them is area denial with her ult.
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>>340365915
survivability fuck you autocorrect
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>>340364548
Go to /vg/ you cancerous Overshilled spamming cunts
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>>340365534
>Brain damage causes him to misuse a word
>Continues to misuse word

Get a grip. I play to have fun. Winning is fun for me. Countering something I don't enjoy to win.

>Am somehow a homosexual and cancer

You are the "cancer" you talk about. Leave and never come back.
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>>340364548
>forget you can be at melee range around this fucker
>he slap me twice
>ded
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>>340365167
Sounds like someone can't handle precision german engineering.
>get rammed against a wall by a fully armored, like 3m tall man boosted by rockets
>expect to live on

>get hit by giant hammer boosted with rockets
>expect only a booboo

I'm not very accurate with the charge, but killing a Mei with it is always good fun.
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>>340365843
This cant even be fun for casuals. There are so many situations where the only option is for you to die.
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>>340365413
roadhog was designed so he would give the enemy team tons of ulti charge because he has no armor and a fuckhuge hitboxe with loads of hp

that makes him balanced
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>>340366275
>Pinning a mech
>Pinning a gorilla
>Pinning a sphere
>Pinning a russian female weight lifter

Pinning any of those should immediately inflict 300 damage to yourself
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>>340366294
Then die, respawn, maybe choose a new hero, and fight on.
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>>340366294

I'm sorry bruv, but it has that Halo casual feel
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>>340366484

Shut up no.
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>>340366616

At least you didn't call me a fuck boy faggot autist casual retard
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>>340366714

I thought that was implied.
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>>340365167

5/10 solid bait
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>>340366493
Fight on in a fight of hard counters with low skill checks. Sounds fun
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>>340364714
>you can sidestep the charge
the charge has a ridiculous amount of lock-on leeway, and with bad ping (like I usually have because my friends are all west coast and I'm not) I regularly get scooped up by a charge after I step out of the way and literally watch him move a meter past me. it puts me on tilt more than anything else in this game, more than spam the hammer shit, more than bodyshot spamming widows, more than anything.

that said, >>340365167 this guy is fucking retarded. Reinhardt is fine even if getting slammed against a wall by a man you avoided drives me insane.
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>>340366484
>charge deals 100 damage to enemy
>300 to you
alright, I'm out.
>sage
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Pinning mechanic should fail if you charge further than your normal shift, stun you for a long time or something. I hate being taken across the whole map and I can't do shit
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hes arguably the only real tank in the game.
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>>340365167
>why should I be punished for running up into Rein's face
Get rekt squishie shit. I love charging in melee and smashing you insects against a wall.
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>>340364548
Because people are convinced he's always necessary but never want to play him themselves, so they let whoever plays him do whatever they want.
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>>340366207
it takes three hits to kill a 200 hp target.
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>Mei has no indicator on her ult
>Mei can survive any ult with her ice
>Mei can build a wall in a game with not many varied maps
>Mei can heal
>Mei can snipe
>Mei can freeze outside of melee range

BUT LETS NERF MCCREE XDDD
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>>340364548
>le no skill man
you mean bastion?
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>>340364548
Becuase they are all le no skill men. You are playing Overwatch niggy.
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>>340369362
>Mei can snipe
very fucking poorly, maybe
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>>340369362

>Mei is never picked in competitive because she is shit
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>>340364548
Why do people respond to shitty overwatch cancer threads on /v/ instead of redirecting them to /vg/ ?
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>>340369362
Fucking this. Mei needs a serious nerf.
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>>340369362
>tfw you main Junkrat
>tfw you angle grenades over her wall
>tfw you lay a mine next to her ice shield
>tfw you mine jump away when she ambushes or ults you and rain death from above
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>ability centric "moba-fps"
>skill
Play a different game.
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>there are seriously people out there who think widowmaker isn't the #1 problem right now
Explain yourselves.
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>>340370034
Widowmaker actually takes some aiming skill. Mei is objectively the worst right now.
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>>340370034
Just fix her ult and I'll have no issue.
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>>340370515
Yeah, they need to change it so that it automatically kills everyone she can see.
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>>340364548
Because you can literally walk right past the shield and most dumb ass reinhardt's will just let you do it.

The few that don't end up exposing themselves to the rest of the team. I find it really cute.
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>>340365167
Hahahaha, holy shit. How do you even come up with this? You must pay zero attention to where Reinhardts are in your vicinity.
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>>340370961
>punching a low health Reinhardt through his shield to kill him
It's pretty satisfying.
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Literally every character in Overwatch is broken or annoying in some way

Bastion - Sentry mode
D.Va - Needs to be killed outside her mech
Genji - Can reflect projectiles
McCree - Flashbang
Pharah - Rockets in general
Reaper - Wraith form allows for an escape
Soldier 76 - Ultimate does the aiming for him
Tracer - Can recall to reverse damage taken
Hanzo - Arrows tend to strike enemies you're not even aiming at
Junkrat - Can stay out of the fight just lobbing grenades
Mei - Can freeze herself so teammates can save her
Torbjorn - The turret does all the work for him
Widowmaker - Can let the entire team see through walls and charge up shots quickly for ludicrous damage
Reinhardt - Shield absorbs a lot of damage and can knock the enemy team down with ease
Roadhog - His hook
Winston - Jump pack gives him ridiculous mobility for a tank
Zarya - Gravity bomb
Lucio - Extremely mobile and heavy group healing. He can even do reasonable damage or knock people back
Mercy - Resurrects everyone
Symmetra - Teleporter
Zenyatta - Actually I can't think of anything
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>>340369362
>good players use 2, sometimes 3 McCrees because he's so overpowered
>Mei never gets picked because she's absolute rank dogshit
Good thing Blizzard actually balances around the decent players and not the whiny shitters.
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>>340370190
>Widowmaker actually takes some aiming skill
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>>340370190
>bodyshotmaker
>takes some aiming skill
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>>340371681
>Zenyatta - Actually I can't think of anything
Le Discord orb of instant death
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Reinhardt is big man who has big hammer that hits very hard. Don't go near him unless you have a Support and you know he can't do shit
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>>340371839
i main zen and even i can see it's easy to deal with
if someone sticks you with a discord orb, get out of his line of sight for a few seconds and you'll be fine
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>>340371946
It's still extremely annoying when you're a tank on the push and you suddenly get Discorded and all the momentum is gone.
It's more than made up for by Zen being dogshit at everything else, though
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>>340369362
she't not OP, but she ensures that the enemy team will NOT be having any fun at all for the entire match. She will be the most annoying cunt, denying you any chance at getting an ult kill, and making sure you want to hang yourself at any given moment.

She needs to just be fucking removed along with anyone who mains her. And yes, I am salty.
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>>340364548
The real only truly annoying part about him is his ult, but that's because it charges too fast, like every fucking ult in the game. I hope they nerf the charging speed of like, every ult except for maybe tracer.
>>340364850
He technically is overpowered, but not in a way that makes him annoying like mcree and widow are. He is a vital part of almost every team.
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>>340372680

spotted the shitty tracer playing faggot
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>>340364548
Sidestep his charge
Snipe him
Break his shield
Roadhog pick an hard counter him
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>>340372767
I have literally never touched tracer but when I do see them they don't seem to use their ult very much, so I assumed it's on a slow charge.
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>>340365167
>Character with the 2nd worst DPS and shortest range in the game should have his damage nerfed
>Character with the 2nd worst DPS and shortest range in the game should have his range nerfed
>Character with the 2nd worst DPS and shortest range in the game should have his attack speed nerfed
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>be reinhardt
>team lets a mei walk up and freeze your shit
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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My favourite team comp is off-tanking with Roadhog for a reinhardt with a lucio and a mercy. So tanky, nobody has to die.
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I must be the only person who doesn't get how to play Reinhardt. I hold right click and shield shit, but it breaks super fast, and then I'm just useless.

Or an enemy just walks through my shield and kills me or forces me to drop my shield to deal with them, which ends up getting me killed anyway.

The charge is so telegraphed and easy to dodge that I don't get why I would ever use it. E is so slow and easy to dodge too.

He's the only tank that can actually tank and I don't really get how to play him, so I just stick to Roadhog now.
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>>340364548
Guess how I can tell you're a Widowmaker main.
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>>340373165
dip out to recharge your shield, toss an E whenever it's off recharge. Charge when they're locked in a corridor or stationary due to alt.
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>>340365167
>block 1k instead of 2k
Fuck off right now. Even at 2k your shield can be shredded by literally anything.
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>>340366054
What if those two control sticks she was holding on to were hot, throbbing dicks blasting thick ropes over her.
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reply to this post or you'll no longer get legendaries from lootbox
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>>340373165
11 hours with Reinhardt here.
You need to know when to block and when to let your shield recharge. Never let it break, that's a serious problem if it happens.
If an enemy walks through your shield, it's because you either A: fucked up and went ahead without your team, or B: your team is running ahead without you. Your teammates are meant to prevent that from happening.
His charge is very telegraphed, so don't use it unless your opponent is very close to you, can't see you, or is stunned. It's great for escaping bad situations though. Try to think outside the box with it. Get creative.
His E is indeed very slow, but it has a large hitbox. It also goes through shields, so you can use it harass other Reinhardts.
He's the best at actually being a Tank by far, but he, more than any other character in the game, requires that your teammates aren't complete fucking retards.
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>>340373541
only if you got some super high dps like bastion or junkrat on the other team.
Personally I would go
>shield only has 1k or 1.5k
>shield starts recharging as soon as you put it down as opposed to the 5 second delay, and it recharges faster

>slower movement speed when swinging
>hammer has more range when swinging
would make him a bit more offensive based like other tanks and not as campy for defensive maps.
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>>340373678
I don't even care. I have the three legendaries I wanted, and I'm only 40. I'll probably just save my gold for the ones they release next.
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>>340364548
>slow as fuck
>charge easily countered
>shield doesn't even tank that much damage from an average team
>damage ability means he has to drop his his shield meaning he and his team get fucked
>stun blows, does practically no damage too, only works against mass shitters

I like the hero, he's fun, but after playing all the other tanks I have to say he's very situational.
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>>340367098
>lock-on
There is absolutely no lock on and if you do not hit dead center the target flies off and is not pinned. The charge is only worthwhile if there is a pin. You sabotage your team if you did not pin the other tank or their healer. Stop being absolute shit because unless you're another Rein you can easily dodge him. He's also still affected by movement affecting attacks such as junkrat's explosives or lucio's dubstep. Further, he's incredibly vulnerable to any sniper or bastion in mid charge. The only thing Reinhardt's charge is strong against is your retardation.
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>>340373952
As a roadhog I usually melt rein shields superfast with my right click and some help from other small arms fire.
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He's the most versatile tank in the game. No gimmicks, just solid skills that cover both offensive and defensive needs.
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>>340374195
roadhog to, basically any character that has high-damage low-accuracy attacks as the hitbox for his shield is well, big and slow.
As a zarya I do diddly dick to his shield most of the time.
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>>340365078
Are you retarded? Were on 4chan. /v/ Threads are made and die almost every minute. If you just cannot bother to go to a thread you dont like, or just block it from your view you are probably autustic. Get help sir.
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>>340364548
They need to buff Mercy and Mei, Mercy does no damage and in comparison to Zenyatta her healing takes forever. And Mei's iceblaster should shoot farther than it does now, Also her ult is useless long range.
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>>340374515
u funny chinese man thank you zawawawawa
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>>340374515
>buff Mei
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>>340374515

Are you mentally deficient? Mercy's heals far outpace Zen's and her ultimate is the stuff wins are made of.
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>>340364548
He appeals to all of the germanophiles from /pol/.
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>>340374515
They need to nerf her ultimate but buff other areas of her healing and blaster damage. This would make her more fun and less cheap.
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>>340374515
>Mercy does no damage and in comparison to Zenyatta
That's because she's a pure healer while Zenyatta is a mix of dps and support. It seems like you have no idea how balancing works.
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>>340375407
Mercy can still solo a tracer or 76.
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>>340375531
If the Soldier or Tracer suck unbelievable shit, sure.
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>>340375981
mmm It doesn't matter how much you suck when you jump like a fucking idiot
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>>340375531

I have never seen 76 lose to a Mercy and I refuse to believe it has happened.
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>>340375531
>Mercy can solo a 76
If you're playing bots, maybe.
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>>340377481
>>340376946
Clearly I am the greatest mercy and player of OW that has every graced our existence. Also appreciate my fluids because they are...
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You people can't into balance
All that needs to happen:
NERFS:
>mcree fan the hammer nerf
>widowmaker charge nerf
>Mercy ult charge nerf
>Lucio self heal nerf
BUFFS:
>zenyatta hp buff
>symmetra turret recharge buff
>Bastion utility buff (faster setup/pack up speed maybe)
>Mei wall buff (make it knock enemies back/towards you, not stupidly put them on top)
>Pharah can move during her ult (very slowly like mcree)
>Reaper wraith form movement speed buff (like 10% not much)
CHANGES:
>D.Va has 20 shots before needing to reload + She now can move at full speed while shooting
>Hanzo's arrow draws slower, but his movement slow down in now proportional to his draw, so hanzo can move more freely while shooting, but won't reach full charge as quickly.
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>>340377998

Yes to All the Nerfs with one more I should add

>Turrets deal less damage shooting through Winston and Reinhardt shields

Zenyatta health is fine as it is, Full Zenyatta teams can be annoying

Symmettra maybe on Buff, Should change depending on how many she has up

Bastion is a no

Mei is a no (Despite her, Junkrat and Reinhardt being my mains)

Pharah yes

Reaper, Maybe

I am mostly for the shield nerf for Turrets, It should lessen the Bullshit that it is
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>>340377998
just shorten the range flashbang, that's it.
widow is fine
lengthen mercy ult time
lucio is fine
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>>340377998
>>340378606
This is what I want out of reaper
>better, faster teleport
>wraith form is slightly faster than regular character speed
>gets more hp up from souls, or make it easier to get them
>CANNOT use healthpacks
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>>340379078
He should also speak more about how he feels about the world and the compatriots around him.

..
....
......
Hey
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>>340364548

Limited, and niche oriented viability.

Anyone with vertical mobility is entirely safe from him. (I.e. Genji, Hanzo, Winston, Pharah, D. Va, Junkrat, Widowmaker) and other characters can see him coming and prepare accordingly
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>>340378606
>Full Zenyatta teams can be annoying
when have you ever seen more than on zenyatta on a team
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>>340377998
Id want to know when Widow has her ult active. So annoying when you get killed the instant you peek out of a corner cause they were able to line up a shot from across the map.

Or if it stays the same make the recharge take a little longer or something.
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>>340380061

You know when it's active because of the announcement.
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>be midair double jumping as genji
>hammer down pulls you down from the air while youre nowhere near the hammer
why is this allowed?
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>>340380229
theres no global announcement, only your teammates can hear
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Shittiest ult in the game

>Takes for fucking ever to charge while Mcree can throw 6 stuns every 60 seconds
>Absorbing damage doesnt count to your charge
>When you finally do get your ult it only lasts 3 seconds
>The range goes far but the width is shit, by the time you get to the people in the back they're already up

It's buggy as hell too. Too often do I see people just walking away from it. They're in the cone of craters but it didn't affect them (doubly so when you see their cam and see them just taking the full ult like nothing). It also doesn't work on some stairs. And apparently jumping at the right time nullifies it.
Talk about his skills, Rein's charge is also buggy as fuck.
>Stops at random pebbles/bumps/plastic tables but breaks railings.
>Sometimes only deflects a guy you fully touch, sometimes catching a guy your shadow grazed
>anything involving his charge and Roadhog's hook is a mess
And then his shield
>Block everything except Winston's lightning, Symmetra's attacks, Hanzo's ult and Rein's pillar of fire
>Oh ok, it doesn't block energy attacks
>Blocks Lucio's attacks, Zarya's attacks and Zen's attacks
Either have it block all attacks or be more consistent with what it can't block
His pillar of flame
>Seems like it has huge hitbox
>Misses Widomaker's traps/Sym's turrets at point blank range unless they're perfectly in the middle of the fire

It's a miracle he's so damn useful considering how buggy/inconsistent his skills are
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>>340380506
his ult is literally just a better version of zarya's
>>The range goes far but the width is shit, by the time you get to the people in the back they're already up
use firestrike you fucking mong
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>>340364850
>not op
So thats why he is played in every competitive game.
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Rein is literally the most balanced tank in the game. Sage.
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>>340380735
>his ult is literally just a better version of zarya's

stupid fucking literally poster
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>>340380863
>competitive game
>Overwatch

I'm laughing for real right now.
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>>340379669

I faced a 6 Zenyatta team, Something felt fishy since they pushed pretty far until we resorted to Torbjorn and Reinhardt strats.

They were downing all of us really fast, ignoring our ults with their ults which always seemed to be every 30 seconds. Like, We had a Winston and Roadhog that were being melted by these guys.
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>>340377729
Doubtful, you're shit so you play in a bracket where you can do this.
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>>340381002
>a bomb that can suck people in if they feel like standing next to where you fired, that a third of the characters can escape from, does barely any damage, and the enemies can still shoot you/any teammate trying to capitalize on it while you use it

>versus an aoe that does some damage, and stuns all enemies caught in it so they cannot shoot you or try to escape, and is also quicker to release

both are useful on good teams ready to mix ults together but zarya's is completely inferior and if you think otherwise you are probably retarded or a horrible reinhardt
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>>340380863
>being played competitively makes you overpowered
I want shitters to GIT GUD already.
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Only seem to come across two different types of reinhardts.

The first is the type to put his shield up against a Winston player and scream "WHAT DO I DO?!" And the other is a death worshipping cunt who charges away from the group and swings like a blindfolded kid trying to hit a pinata.
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>be rein
>See team shitters stepping outside my shield to shoot
>they die
>OMG REIN YOU ARE SHIT YOU SHOULD BE PROTECTING ME
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>>340380863
It's more that the other tanks aren't good enough at the role. Zarya can really only protect one character at a time and is useless if people know to not shoot her shield. Winston's bubble is very fragile and doesn't last forever like Reinhardt's barrier. Roadhog doesn't have any abilities to heal/shield anyone besides himself and feeds ults with all that health. D. Va can't shield for long enough to protect allies and is better used as a distraction since she's so mobile.

Reinhardt is, as of now, literally the only character that can effectively absorb damage for multiple characters at the same time for more than a few seconds. He's easily countered by flanking, piercing attacks, or explosives, but he's still the only character that can do what he does.
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>>340381834
You have never met the third one? The one that does literally nothing but shield a bastion + torb turret on hanamura A or any other chokepoint map, with a backup rein shielding a widowmaker in case his shield goes down.
AKA the premade team reinhardt.
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>>340381868
>Be mercy
>See a rein charging into the enemy lines and die instantly
>OMG MERCY YOU ARE SHIT YOU SHOULD BE HEALING ME
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>>340382132
As a Rein user, I know full well if I charge into enemy lines with no one else, I'm fucked.

I don't blame anyone for my recklessness.
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Guys what do you think of my fanconcept of a character?
>His name is Gunmaster
>Has a gun with 6 shots, it fires slowly but his alt fire blasts out all 6 shots quickly
>His gun does good damage and is accurate even at long range
>His gun is also hitscan
>His E is an aoe stun that does some damage too
>His shift is a dodge that also automatically reloads his weapon
>His ult is a timed instant kill, similar to reaper but can be done at long range

What do you think? Too overpowered?
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>>340381960
Which is fine imo. Rein is a tank's tank and he clearly fulfills his role where he needs to, as do the other tanks where they need to in areas that Rein cannot (with arguably lesser efficacy).
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>>340382372
I work at blizzard and that seems totally fine by me, gonna suggest it to my superiors I bet they love that idea.
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>>340382372

>His ult is a timed instant kill, similar to reaper

but reaper doesn't have an instant kill?
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>>340382132
I want to _hug that robot
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>>340382674
Reaper's Ult is a shredder, but not instantaneous. It can also be countered hard via hook, charge, explosives, and a well placed headshot. If you try if when the enemy Lucio ulted his crew, it's suicidal.
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>>340380415
>theres no global announcement
Clean your ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSQaVF5kmdc#t=0h2m58s
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>>340383091
This video is missing like half of the allied call outs
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>>340365167
>melee attack should be as weak as every other character even though its a huge fucking hammer and his only non cooldown attack
Butt mad is you.
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>>340381960
Tank doesn't translate to = protect team. This isn't an MMO; each tank has a differen't role.

Rein is obviously to defend his team, deter or concentrate enemy fire.

Roadhog repels the enemy with his ult and nobody wants to get close to you because of hook.

Both D.va and Winston are harassers and work by disrupting the enemy team.

Zarya's probably got the closest thing to thorns and works like Zenyatta for a DPS/tank hybrid.
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>>340374515
>They need to buff Mei
Well just fuck my shit up senpai
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>>340379078
wraith form is already faster.
I don't agree with any of the rest except the teleport voice shouldn't be so fucking loud and obvious. although it's funny.
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>>340383091
are you fucking retarded she says it behind enemy lines how is anyone supposed to hear that with team fights going on
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>>340384078
I just thought of what they should do to reapers teleport.
His voice should literally come from a random location. Like he says death comes but it's just in a bullshit misleading spot.
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>>340371681
>Reinhardt - Shield absorbs a lot of damage and can knock the enemy team down with ease
Rein's a big, slow target with next to no ranged options. The shield is critical to his survival, and also to his tanking duties. It still requires judicious use, as it's a big glowing wall that only draws attention to him. Also, there's nothing easy about bagging the entire enemy team with the shockwave. He'd have to somehow close the distance first.
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>>340365747
>He can't land the combo
Not technically right. If you shoot straight ahead right after hook, you will always hit the target, even if you see his model elsewhere. Glorious 20hz tick rate and lag compensation that favors the shooter
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>>340371946
That's the point of the orb.
It removes a character for 3 seconds from fighting.
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>>340374515

The only change Mercy needs is an outfit where we can see her ass.
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>>340365747
>D.Va is in an okay spot if they gave her more to do outside of Mech, but yeah pretty true.

Nothing about D. Va is okay. Everything she can do in the mech Winston can do better, and outside of it she's just a poor man's Offensive character.
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>hitting my turret from behind
>reinhard charges my turret from the front
>I die
Epic.
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The only hero that needs any kind of nerf in the game is McRee, any other complaining you see is just people salty from getting shit on cause they are bad at the game.
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>>340369362
>Mei has no indicator on her ult
She yells her chink shit just like everyone else

>Mei can survive any ult with her ice
True, but unless she's with her team, she's fucked afterwards

>Mei can build a wall in a game with not many varied maps
A wall that only has any meaningful use in very very specific situations. Otherwise it's just a nuisance that will go away after a few seconds

>Mei can heal
And is completely immobile while doing so. Just set up for the kill and be wary of Meis trying to be cute and leaving their ice early.

>Mei can snipe
Yeah, if your Hanzo or Widow is getting out sniped by a Mei, they should just kill themsleves. Hanzo can at least hold his arrows or release early. Mei's """"""snipe""""""" is a complete commitment.

>Mei can freeze outside of melee range
Then don't be near her...? She's absolute dogshit at medium-long range.

Mei is the kind of character with all sorts of versatility, but is outclassed by other specialized characters.
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>>340374515
Mercy's perfectly fine where she is.

>Mercy does no damage
She does plenty of damage for her role. Her pistol is only a few steps removed from D. Va's.
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>>340365167
Who let Morello in here?
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>>340365167
>getting into close range with a CQC expert
>upset that you died

I bet you cry when Reaper out-damages you as Winston too
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>>340372915
Tracer's and D.Va's ults are the only things in the game that can one shot anyone. Except Tracer's can stick to people.
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>>340364548

If you're Bastion you can take him from max to zero health during the time it takes him to charge.

I fucking hate Bastion.
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>>340369712
Why do people keep insisting you can main anything in this game?
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>>340385524
I don't think she needs to be nerfed at all, if she is though I'd say increase the time it takes her freeze people. That way some autist doesnt have 10000 years of lee way to pull off the freeze/ice spike combo on a squishy
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>>340385531
Mercy's pistol shoots slower but does more damage per shot. I think it's actually slightly more dps than D.Va's pistol.
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>>340385041
>Stare down with the Reinhardt from enemy team
>I charge first
>His Mei gets in front
>Enemy Reinhardt charges
>I get Mei in the charge
>We end up splattering the poor girl between two charging Reins

We couldn't stop laughing about it after that.
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>>340365167
>bastion make his bullet spread slightly larger he should not be able to snipe
>Mcrightclick not sure if it will fix the problem but maybe reload half the bullets from roll
>mercy ulti takes a bit longer to charge, her beam heals slightly more to keep her on par with Lucio
>hanzo hits can be somewhat unfair
>India tech support needs a UI to see what level your current beam is on
>better lock-on with some supports
>honestly more maps and game modes the same 6 maps get boring after a while

My ideal nerfs/buffs
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>try not be salty while playing Rein since he's genuinely fun as fuck to play
>still get salty sometimes
Sometimes there's just too much bullshit in this game for me to not get salty. I really try to be chill guys I do.
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>>340386213
M-Mei double pen?
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Excuse me Overwatchfags.

How do I tell if a Bastion who's ulting is on my team or not when I hear his little whistle? Is it different at all for the enemy? Other characters speak English when they're on your team.
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>>340364548

Why do people always use "requires no skill" as an argument for something they don't like?
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>>340383458
That's because it was recorded back during the closed beta when they didn't even have half those callouts. Note that Mercy sounds completely different. That was her old VA who got replaced because she didn't know any German
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>>340365167
This is a lot of bullshit but I actually agree on the cleave. It's kind of silly that you can hit someone on the corner of your screen without of trying.
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>>340364548
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaXigSu72A4
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>>340386504
I guess you could say that. Also she has been proving to be a double edge sword for the team. I've manage to splatter people with the enemy Mei's Ice Wall and even one time when she Ice Shielded herself, saving me from going over the cliff with her Junkrat.
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>>340383091
It's not global, local only.
Unless you're standing next to her you won't hear it, but will still eat a Hanzo scatter or Junkrat's grenade to the face when turning a corner
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>>340386681
If it's louder than everything else, it's the enemy.
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>>340369362
wow she can do everything and be really shitty at it all

COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rate my buffs/nerfs /v/:

>McCree
- Stun duration shortened (0.7s->0.6s)
- Fan the hammer damage (35-70)->(22-50)

>Reaper
- Decrease visibility during Shadow Step

>Pharah
- Jet pack is now directional (hold without moving to float, hold while moving to increase horizontal speed)

>76
- Biotic field now heals for a max of 250HP (40hps->50hps)

>Widowmaker
- Decreased rate of fire (2rps->1.80rps)
- Decreased charge rate (0.71s->1s)
- Increased volume to ultimate call out (still not global)

>D.Va
- Decreased critbox size on MEKA
- Boosters damage 25->35
- Speed penalization while firing MEKA decreased

>Zenyatta
- Increased speed during ultimate
- Additional 10 shields

>GLOBAL
- Movement speed increase by 10%
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>>340385812

Tracer's bomb does not one shot Roadhog. Dunno about other tanks.
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>>340367098
>playing on servers that you know you'll have bad ping

Absolute cancer.
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>>340387452
>Reaper nerf

No. Reaper is fine as is.

>Global Movement Speed Up

Getting tired of not getting to the point/payload in time?
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>>340387452
>- Boosters damage 25->35

But ramming people does 50.
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>>340384945
>The only change Mercy needs is an outfit where we can see her ass

I would buy loot boxes to get that.
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>>340370034
maybe that's true but Hanzo's plunger-sized arrow hitboxes make me rage more
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>>340387785
It's 25. Go in-game and test it out in Practice (or a match).
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>>340387452
Sounds good to me but mei needs buffs
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fix the sniper hitboxes before anything else, ESPECIALLY HANZO
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Which characters effectively counter Reinhardt?
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>>340364548
because he' shielding both teams asses
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>>340392890
any hero with high mobility, mcree flah+reload, pharah can damage him from above, bastion easily gets his shield down in defense
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>>340364548
His charge should do 1000 damage. Its fucking bullshit that people like roadhog can survival it and just blast my face in when he already can hook me out of my charge.
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>>340379078
What reaper really needs is to stop announcing his fucking teleport.

Whenever I play widow and hear a Reaper literally scream "Death Comes" I just turn around and kill him.
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>>340365167

I think you're just bootyblasted from being smashed on Charge. I bet you're one of those Meifags that are easy charge bait when you wait the full duration for cryofreeze.
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>>340365167
>One of only 2 hero melee heroes.
>easy to kite
>Once his shield breaks he's pretty much useless to the team.

If anything he needs buffs.
Some sort of cc resistance.
More hp.
Better shield regen when its not in use.
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I know aiming on console is its own thing but with Overwatch it feels like the sensibility and acceleration are fuzzy, i never had issue with battlefield 4 all the more i even became a dedicated sniper.

But playing Mcree and Widow on console is fucked up
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