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What went right?
>>340357175
The combat, the music, the memorable cast, and the humor
>>340357175
Pretty good themes and based Armstrong.
>>340357175
Vanquish
>>340357175
The final boss. Memes aside, I've never fought a final boss that good before.
Too much cinematic bullshit. All those QTEs. Disgusting.
Everything. Even the QTEs were done well, and I generally hate them on principle. Bought it again for Steam the other day. Great game. Spin-off done well.
>>340357175
Combat
Music
Aesthetics
Characters
Memorability (a lot to do with its goofy campiness and soundtrack)
It reminded players of the good ole days after 9/11
Make America Great Again. Literal meme magic.
I am glad it finally gave Raiden justice.
He was too whiny in 2 and too emo in 4
>>340357296
>>340357690
> MGR
> good combat
if you never played an action game before sure
Short, simple, rewarding, and hype as fuck.
The soundtrack and interesting enemy types mixed things up
>>340358070
name a fast game with better sword play
>>340358149
devil may meme, I'd also wager NG but I've never playd a NG before, I'd say that's probably the only competition though
So I'd say it's quite a ways up there, people just don't like it because it's not as good as DMC and Bayo is all, it's more than good on its own
>>340357979
praise Kek
>>340357175
Very little. It played fluidly, but that's about it.
The story was a joke, both in planning and execution. Raiden's revelation about bad guys having their own lives and motivations was a joke considering he was a former child soldier and survived the events of MGS2 and MGS4. It's middle school level stuff. The Metal Gear Solid games are largely about sparing the lives of your enemies, hence the emphasis on non-lethal gameplay.
The game was originally titled Metal Gear Solid: Rising and was going to be made by Kojima Productions. Here's the original trailer. Pay attention to how much better it looks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se-9krsNG1Q
>>340358614
>The Metal Gear Solid games are largely about sparing the lives of your enemies, hence the emphasis on non-lethal gameplay.
[citation needed]
>>340357979
Explain what is meant by 'meme magic'. I see the term but am not sure what it means.
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>>340358614
>playing games for the story
>>340358149
Most games in the genre, even western trash. MGRR is a mindless button mashing/parry spam fest
>>340358818
>Games give special rewards for non-lethal playthroughs, give the player special weapons so they can accomplish this, and MGSV makes the player's horn grow bigger as they kill more people.
Have you literally never played them?
>>340358870
I play them for everything, anon.
>>340358614
>mgs
Dude this is mgr
>>340359447
>The game was originally titled Metal Gear Solid: Rising and was going to be made by Kojima Productions.
It's a spinoff of the MGS series. Read before you reply.
>>340359447
Yeah, and MGR sucks.
rules of nature
butt rock
>>340358614
>emphasis on non-lethal gameplay
MGR doesn't have "emphasis" on non-lethal action at all
There are some lip-service missions you CAN complete non-lethally or """""stealthily""""" but they take maybe a minute
Otherwise game is cheery celebration of wanton blade slashing violence -- as any action game should be.
MGR has a special bonus for non-lethal completion of combat encounter but it is very half-baked (like most of the thing in this game)
Not a whole lot. The combat was literally Dynasty Warriors with a parry button and the ebin jack da rippa mode, there were QTEs everywhere, zandatsu ruined the flow of combat, the story was borderline incomprehensible and the game only lasted 5 hours
>>340359909
>the story was borderline incomprehensible
>evil corporation takes brains from children and puts them in VR simulations so they can put them through grueling simulated combat in order to make hardened soldiers
>you have to stop them!!
>turns out that a senator put them up to it so that he could turn america into a might-makes-right hellscape
What's hard to understand?
>>340360362
That scene when all the eyes looked at the camera was so fucking dumb
>>340359616
WRONG, faggot.
It WAS a spinoff of the MGS series. Revengance represents a new sub-series of the Metal Gear series with a different gameplay focus, hence the branding change from Metal Gear Solid to Metal Gear RISING. This is similar to the relationship between the Mario & Luigi games and the mainline Super Mario series.
TL;DR Learn to read game titles before you reply.
>>340360751
>It WAS a spinoff of the MGS series.
That's what I said.
>It's a spinoff of the MGS series.
Learn to read posts before you reply.
I wasn't criticizing MGR for not playing like MGS. I was saying that it was stupid how Raiden got depressed when he realized that enemy soldiers were born into difficult lives and weren't just two-dimensional bad guys for him to kill.
>>340358857
>how do you do fellow channers, care to explain how this meme magic works? Just curious haha
Nice try, but we won't reveal our secrets so that you can harvest meme magic for your globalist agenda. We are going to meme Trump the presidency and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>340357175
stopped playing it at the last level because it was annoying that almost every enemy can knock you unconscious or knock you on the ground and you have to spam buttons to get out of it.
inb4 git gud. its just annoying and shouldnt be in a game like this.
also there should have been more than 2 attack buttons, combo system was boring
>>340357175
>have this on steam
>it crashes immediately every time
how do I fix this
>>340361602
git gud you just dont have the skill
So is it safe to say that you liked MGR around MGS fans?
How many of them carry guns? How many of those are trigger happy?
>>340361602
Too much steam is building up in your computer causing the program to crash. Installing an exhaust pipe on your rig should fix the problem.
>>340361457
>there should have been more than 2 attack buttons
majority of action games do just fine 2 melee buttons
heck the establishing series of action games genre only has one melee button
there are very few games that do good combat with three melee buttons. god hand is one and that's about it
> combo system was boring
there is nothing wrong with established light/heavy button layout, it's just number of actions and weapons was pitifully low
>>340361719
depends.
MGS1, 3, 4, PW, and 5 fans don't care.
MGS2 fans get pissed because you like a game that "butchered" Raiden's "character" in MGS2
>>340361719
Yes.
MGS3 >= MGS2 > MGS > MGR > MG2 > MGS4 > MGSV > MG > PW
>>340362045
>MGR higher than MGS4
What?
Did you fall for the MGS4 is shit meme?
>>340361986
I love 1-4. MGR is bad, but not because of Raiden's character. That change was already made in MGS4.
>>340357175
The developers made fun of how fucking retarded and absurd is the story of Metal Gear.
>>340359739
Best answer
I really liked MGR
But I wish we also had a more stealth based game like they shown in early trailers
Actually I think the stealth mechanics in Rising are useless
>>340360362
Everything surrounding it
>>340361245
LEARN TO READ!
Terrible gameplay
>>340362856
better than witcher 3
>>340357296
>the music
In what universe? One where good taste is decided by 13 year olds?
>>340362908
Okay?
>>340362953
The genre is unimportant, the music was used to great effect and the lyrics elaborated on the boss characters' personalities and perspectives
>>340362908
Oh boy the Bloodborne Shill Force woke up
>>340363114
>>340363210
Speaking of which here's another >>340363216
Take your grimdark obsession back to your containment threads on /vg/
>>340358614
>Caring about the story
This game never set itself out to be the next Citizen Kane, it never took itself serious once.
>>340357296
>combat
>music
>humo(u)r
>>340363371
Except it did.
The game varied between playing it completely straight and hamming it up, ultimately failing at both.
>>340357296
>mgr
>good combat
The music and how it was integrated into battles were great but I sure as hell wasnt playing it for the combat
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YA HOT FUH DAYS
>>340362207
Not a meme. MGS4 is nothing but squandered potential.
>>340358614
>Here's the original trailer. Pay attention to how much better it looks.
It looks much worse, you're completely delusional.
>>340358960
>i played on easy mode!
>>340361719
"Meme" MGS fans still have that deep meme hatred over Raiden, so the ones that I've talked with instantly disregarded the game because
>LUL RAIDEN AINT THAT THE GAY ONE WHERE SNAKE
>Downgraded
>No level variety
>Poor level design in general
>Shitty FOXHOUND
>Shitty Philanthropy
>Shitty soundtrack apart from 2-3 tracks
Nothing. Was barely worth a single playthrough.
>>340363790
Played on hard mode, you're an idiot if you think it makes the combat any better
>Trusting Platinum with your game
>Ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtM3PGyiQUc
>>340357175
>make interesting game concept about raiden's mgs4 origins
>Scrap everything sell it to platnium who makes bastardized CUHRRAAYZEEE game about a guy who put his sword away for his kid
Nothing went right about this atrocity
>>340357175
Nanomachines, son.
>>340364202
Everything they show in this trailer you can do in the game plus more with a lot more range on the sword,it looks like he's fighting with a butter knife in that trailer. The only difference between this and the real game is the real game doesn't take itself so seriously.
>>340364320
>Game set between MGS2 and MGS4 in classic MGS where you're infiltrating as Raiden to find Big Boss' remains for the PLA
>Final mission is you breaking out Metal Gear Solid: Rising style
>Game ends with you dropping off Sunny at Philanthropy
>NEVER EVER
kojimbo y
>>340357175
it was FUN
>>340363216
hi /mu/
>>340364516
>The only difference between this and the real game is the real game doesn't take itself so seriously
If I wanted to play Borderlands 2, I'd fucking play Borderlands 2. MGS2 was not funny. MGS4 was not funny. Raiden WAS NOT FUNNY.
Yeah lets take the most depressed, suicidal character in the series, give him an equally depressing context set 4 years later, but now he's less funny Deadpool.
It's literally all Platinum can do. They can barely do action right, and every single character they make is the same fucking character. Raiden isn't even in MGR, it's just a shitty alpha version of Bayonetta with...well it doesn't even really have a Metal Gear skin, aside from Gekkos.
Goddammit I am so fucking sick of thismemecompany. They made one mediocre LoZ clone how many years ago, and now they get a free pass on everything.
AND NOW THEY'RE RUINING NIER
FUCK
>>340358614
The demo looks better, but theres a reason they gave the development to Platinum. They were running out of resources on that gen of consoles, behind schedule because they made it look like that,and it just felt boring and slow
>>340363898
>"Meme" MGS fans still have that deep meme hatred over Raiden
to be fair he was a piece of shit in MGS2 but there was more wrong with MGS2 than Raiden himself. The problem is that all the things I disliked about MGS2 happened during the parts where you were Raiden
>>340365001
By the way when I said Borderlands 2, I didn't mean because of memes, I meant Zer0. Unfunny but attempting to be cold blooded ninja guy.
Yeah, great idea Gearbox. Make a character who is meant to be played melee, but don't add in fucking melee weapons or the ability to draw his sword. Great fucking work.
>>340359870
wasnt the nonlethal way just slicing their weapon and they dissapear?
>>340365001
Holy fucking shit I do not have a "u mad" pic big enough for what you just posted.
>>340365001
I disagree about the previous Metal Gears not being funny. Or at least not trying to be. Jokes like Naked Snake being more focused on a gun than Eva's tits work while jokes like Johnny constantly shitting himself don't.
But I agree that turning Raiden into le ebin quip master was a bad move. The humor would have worked better had he been the straight man.
>>340365001
>ruin
>implying nier was good to begin with
>>340365169
you had to delimb them and then they yes will disappear
that problem was that there are very few opportunities to achieve non-lethal bonus because majority of combat encounters are with AI robots
ranking system is bad in general in this game which is a shame because they had a good idea to fix point values for S-rank as 5000 (1000 for each category) so that one could figure what he's lacking in each encountner just by looking at scorecard without guessing exact combo point values
>>340365663
>But I agree that turning Raiden into le ebin quip master was a bad move.
better than what they did with him in 2
>>340363898
Raiden would have been fine if he hadn't been in MGS2, or Solid Snake hadn't been advertised as the protagonist of MGS2.
MGS2 is a quick test to see the age of a reader on 4chan.
If you aren't slightly pissed even to this day about it then you didn't play it when it came out. Know how there's a lot of core Dark Souls 2 hate-boners because at release the game was a mess? Then there's people who only played SOTFS and thought the game was fine because they never saw the release shit up.
MGS2 is like that.
We were told we were getting a game with Solid Snake.
We were given a demo (that we had to buy a fucking $40 game just to play!) where we played as Solid Snake.
Then the game released and to everyones astonishment, Raiden was the main character. And he didn't leave. And it didn't switch to Snake when he showed up. Or half way. Or 75% of the way. And the plot kept getting weirder and more convoluted.
tl;dr you had to be there and you obviously weren't.
>>340365169
You could also clobber them with the wooden sword (fully upgraded it has an instant knockout effect).
>>340365663
They had jokes, but the overall game was very, very serious
>>340366691
you missed the point
Fun game, my only real gripe was you couldn't switch weapons mid-combo.
Loved all the characters, too. I actually cared more about Raiden's support team than Big Boss's crew in PW or V, and the Winds of Destruction are probably my favorite Metal Gear villains to date (up there with FOXHOUND and Black Chamber).
>>340370249
>I actually cared more about Raiden's support team than Big Boss's crew in PW or V
This, the codec conversations were REALLY well done.
>>340358960
>even western trash.
Can you name a few?
>>340365001
>every single character they make is the same fucking character. Raiden isn't even in MGR, it's just a shitty alpha version of Bayonetta with...well it doesn't even really have a Metal Gear skin, aside from Gekkos.
They're alike in a lot of ways, but not identical. The zandatsu mechanic wasn't in Bayonetta or DMC. It's solid combat all around, I don't know why you're complaining. Would you rather having slow as fuck Souls combat? Or the sorry excuse for combat in Witcher?
>>340371068
DmC
>>340372198
niceme.me
>>340357175
The music, katana cutting, raiden, bosses, story.... pretty much everything.
