How can Nintendo save Star Fox?
romance routes
It's too late
By getting those guys who wrote A Fox in Space to write the next SF game.
>>340353075
Sounds awful
>>340353075
>an entire game of awkward sexual tension between fox and wolf
I'd buy it
>>340353639
Couldn't be any worse than what it is right now.
>>340353075
I'd be down with this.
A Fox in Space is probably the best thing the IP's had going in a very long while.
>>340353075
tone down the homo innuendos and you got yourself a deal
also, Nintendo needs to license that shit, don't want the same mistake to happen again. (the take down)
>>340352758
They can but they won't. There is nothing stopping them from farming out the IP to a more capable studio like Namco, but because Miyamoto and the Wii U controller failed so miserably, they are going to blame the IP and punish it consequently just like they did with Other M failed. Nintendo will blame literally anyone before their blame their own management. Miyamoto will even throw Platinum Games under the bus if he has to.
>>340352758
Never coming back, just like how metroid ended after other m
-put Miyamoto as low prior
NEXT
-take 643D
-take Assault
-take Zero's Roadmaster
~ MIX IT UP
~ EXPAND IT TOO
-add new shit (i.e. playable Star Wolf, comfy pre-mission hub areas, online, customization, etc.)
you got yourself a GotD(ecade) Star Fox
>>340354997
you fags should've bought Zero Mission to keep the interest of 2D Metroid going
at least Sakamoto know people rather play Super than fucking Other Flopped
>>340355474
Keep the interest going? It's one of the most popular series of all time what planet are you from?
>>340355573
That's what happened to Megaman
MHX and PoweredUp were great, but since they didn't "sell enough" Capcom thought it wasn't worth it to continue their series, and now instead of getting new games, we get new ways to play the same games, again.
>>340352758
>Online Multiplayer space battles
>Quit re-hashing StarFox 64
>Expand the story mode by a good 5 hours or so
>Make an actual Arcade Mode
>Don't lock shitty side missions and sound tests behind a scavenger hunt
>Don't have Fox McCloud leave his ship/go on foot. EVER. Let that be Falco's job or some shit
>Don't have characters you need to save still do shit when they get shot down
t. a pissed-off SFZ player who wasted $60
>>340355995
That sounds like shitty management not lack of interest.
>>340352758
Make it a TPS that plays like Vanquish and incorporates Fox's moves from Smash Bros (like the boost and the reflector). On-rails Star Fox is dead.
>>340354967
Sakamoto just didn't want to make Metroid anymore and he's probably better off. Rhythm Heaven, Tomodachi Life, Wario Ware. All great. Sakamoto's strength obviously isn't in making Metroid, but those weird games.
I'm sure he realizes he fucked up. Also, he's said on multiple occurrences he'd like Retro to make more Prime games, TOO BAD THEY DON'T WANT TO.
Waifus
>>340356270
Megaman's games had been selling like shit for a long time. The only reason they kept coming out was because Inafune kept pushing for them.
Who's to say it wasn't the same for Metroid?
ZM may have done well, but perhaps "not well enough" to keep doing those games
>>340355573
i'm not talking about the entire series anon
Zero Mission didn't break a million since Fusion and Prime was released, and it was a remake highest selling former Metroid since the NES.
Sakamoto might of thought:
>you know, ZM didn't sell much, so maybe it's the time to do some big and new than fussing around with the Dread project.
>and i'll put more attention on Fusion since that sold more
and just left 2D Metroid alone
reminder that Zero doesn't have:
>the Forever Train
>Area fucking 6
>Venom as a planet
>the Independence Day knock-off level
>the damn secret weapon robot from one of the sectors
such a giant disappointment
>>340356310
cuhrayzee hack-'n-slashes are that popular either bud and PG been shitting on the bed lately after Bayo2 and since Korra
though this sounds really fun as fuck
>>340356158
>Don't have Fox McCloud leave his ship/go on foot. EVER.
Nah, fuck that. Ever since 64/Smash Fox has been shown to be just as capable as an out-of-cockpit soldier as he is a pilot. Assault's problem was that the on-foot controls were kind of garbage and the missions were longer than the on-rails ones, but there's no good reason why Nintendo should throw he baby out with the bathwater and never touch that kind of gameplay again.
>>340358270
this
also they should take little notes on KI:U's ground sections to make it really good.
>>340352758
Nintendo can't even save itself
>>340352758
They shouldn't have bothered with shit like the Gyrowing, no one wants it and no one likes it.
>>340353075
I'd be down with a dark Fox/Wolf centric game.
>>340352758
>remaster
>GoTY edition
>$120 CE w/ falco statue that talks shit
>>340359387
Just play Command then
>>340359982
>Command is literal fanfiction
>doesn't have a route where Wolf joins Star Fox
Garbage
>>340352758
Give it an embarrassingly bad cartoon like they did with Donkey Kong Country like two decades ago
>>340360745
You know I never figured out why Star Fox never got a cartoon. Out of all of Nintendo's properties it seems like the best suited for it.
>>340360845
Didn't Miyamoto want some actual play puppet company to make Star Fox plays when it first came out? It was definitely at least a pipe dream. Guess they didn't want to be the ones approaching.
>>340360845
It's because the 80's space craze had long since waned and humanoid cartoon animals were oversaturated. It would have been a poor man's Bucky o'Hare.
>>340361368
Shit, man, that makes sense.
>>340356310
>On-rails Star Fox is dead
See, that's just not true. The on-rails parts were pretty much the ONLY good thing about Zero (save for the Star Wolf battles, in my opinion, despite the shitty lock-on function and no radar). They were only hindered by being too short, and the on-screen reticle not being accurate.
Most reviews seem to say the same thing, that the on-rails sections were good, but they tried to focus too much on all range mode and shitty alt vehicles.
If we could have a Star Fox that had only on-rails levels, with the intensity of Sector Omega, I'd die happy. Hell, they could probably make wicked on-rails Star Wolf battles too.
>>340359982
Why is Krystal so edgy in that game?
>>340361727
To contrast how much of a beta cuck Fox was
Post Krystal and Miyu
>>340360541
naaah, Wolf wouldn't dare to join the same team he was up against when his father was still alive.
Post Fox and Falco
>>340352837
I want Wolf to fuck Krystal
>>340363027
I want my human self-insert to fuck Krystal
>>340362484
That just makes the eventual drunken tryst even better.
>>340352758
Don't know if it can be saved at this point. Miyamoto seems not to want to appeal to people who liked the series with 64, but instead wants to appeal to children and soccer moms. In my opinion, if they want the original fanbase back, they need to take another crack at the Assault formula.
They need to:
>Come up with solid on-foot gameplay. Perhaps something with plenty of different weapon options and gameplay that is a mix of Mass Effect 3 and Earth Defense Force
>Rework the Landmaster into an extremely powerful if somewhat clunky vehicle for combat and exploration, maybe like a Halo vehicle
>More on-rails Arwing portions than ground, with gameplay more or less just lifted from 64. There is no need for Miyamoto to constantly be "innovating" when what everyone wants is more 64 gameplay and less Gyrowing motherfuckery.
>Tell a new story. No one wants yet another rehash of the Lylat Wars.Take Assault's tone but perhaps take it less seriously
>No furry, Online Multiplayer with character customization.
Why is Krystal so cute?
>>340356158
>Make Falco, who is canonically a better Pilot than Fox, handle on foot missions
Nigger there's a reason Fox pilots the Landmaster most of the time and not FalcoBecause Falco prefers the air
>>340363027
Krystal doesn't deserve him
>>340354847
But the homo innuendos are what I want from the new star fox
Zero's problem was that it was a huge retread of 64 with worse bosses, level design and no fucking routes. That said the aiming with the gamepad worked well when you weren't constantly flying around a boss or Wolf in circles. All it needed was more levels and more varied bosses, plus a hidden Venom route.
Also an Aquas stage.
>>340364224
>character customization
If you want to minimizefurshit, just make it so that the only thing you can customize is your vehicle.
>>340364565
Assault kinda has that, just a bit.
>>340364675
You know, i dont really want a game very much at all. I just want gay porn. Lots of it.
>>340359982
The Fox/Falco/Wolf set of missions in Command were my favorite
>>340364780
Me too.
>>340364780
seeing Zero is going to put the series in a longer coma, guess so.
fuck you miyamoto
>>340352758
Make a storyline based around the lust penis arc
At least Zero gave us best Wolf.
>>340365092
Why did they ever retcon that? I thought it was a great direction for the series.
>>340364638
Or just stuff everyone in armor
>>340365092
>>340365176
Zero had the best designs and fights for Star Wolf, goddamn.
such a waste in a shitty game
>>340353075
I concur.
>>340365219
better, put them in mobile suits.
Star Fox's little sis' needs some good sugar.
They already did. Zero was a vast improvement over the past few games in the series, and definitely put it back on track.
And they got rid of Krystal. She is no more. What's not to love about that?
>>340352758
-No control gimmicks
-Don't rehash 64's plot
-Expand the universe but don't do it in a way that alienates the fans
-Keep things fast paced
-Add dog fight multiplayer with online and local
-Make shit like Gyrowing optional or just flat out remove it
-I'm not asking for a Latino Soap Opera I'm asking for a fun narrative involving animals in space
-Co Pilots have to be useful. You have to give a fuck about saving them and they have to look competent.
-Good marketing, if there is competitive multiplayer, focus on that.
>>340365176
>dat popped collar
Now that's a rival to SF64's Handsome McCloud.
Finding an audience in Japan is a lost cause so don't focus on them.
If so then maybe have an arcade game to promote the game. I heard Nips love arcade games
>>340366052
>This autist again
She wasn't supposed to be in a 64 story to begin with, come back and say that in a non 64 setting then say that faggot.
>>340365176
Absolutely.
>>340366492
Sure! When the next game comes out and she's not in it I will be more than happy to come back and say it. I'll ask for you personallyshe won't be ;)
>>340366492
You've spent the past few days making variations of this thread. All day.
Why?
>>340366052
>and definitely put it back on track.
dude lmao
just admit you're still salty over your little scapegoat
>got BTFO twice in 2 Star Fox threads
>>340366052
>>340366642
Why do you care so much about Krystal?
I don't care for her character or if she's included or not in new games, but was she really that bad of a character?
>>340366642
Sure thing, and when shantae is never ever in smash once again i hope you make a thread about you killing yourself.Though krystal will be in next time, not even mad
Get your autistic ass back to SB, where were you when you got BTFO?
>>340352758
Let it die
>>340366884
I never ever made krystal threads in my life, retard.
Didn't you see the new poster count go up when i entered the damn thread?
>>340366884
you're talking to another IP, anon.
>>340367106
>consorting with Shantaefags
>Shantae still has a chance of being in Smash eventually
>Krystal doesn't, cause she was retconned
what did he mean by this?
>>340367723
>shantae shitposter is back
>>340367723
>Shantae will forever be a lowly indie
>Krystal despite her being locked away is miles ahead of her on the smash spectrum
when did he mean by this?
>>340366052
>Star Fox Zero save the series, guys! It's back on the right track!
>>340352758
it cant
its already dead (again)
>>340367096
source?
>>340352758
>implying you can save shitty franchise
nindron pls
They can't. The fanbase will never be satisfied because they don't even know what they want out of the series.
One thing that doesn't make sense about Krystal is that she was raised in a planet that only has Stone/Bronze age technology and yet she still knows how to control a fucking high-tech spaceship.
>>340368361
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/06/02/zhugeex-says-that-star-fox-zero-was-not-profitable-at-all/
>>340368715
She might have run into a bit of culture shock for sure, but there's no reason she couldn't learn to fly a star fighter any more than you could learn to fly one
>>340369375
wew lad, forget to switch it to new thread
nothing to see here
>>340368715
She isn't from Dinosaur Planet, she got there with a spaceship
The anime was a mistake.
It made the game look a lot more interesting than it actually was. It's pretty much completely divorced from the game itself and nothing in the game actually lives up to the promise of an exciting sci-fi world with an entertaining narrative like what we saw in that video. The game itself is a dreadfully bland retread of Star Fox 64 and has no surprises at all.
>>340366642
There's not going to be another Star Fox game, because Nintendo listened to retards like you.
>Shantaefag scurried away 'n BTFO'd for the third time
>>340352758
>>340368715
I don't blame you for not finishing Star Fox Adventures, but you could have at least looked up the ending on Youtube.
>>340368571
The fandom was divided but it was not beyond salvage. Just make a game like Star Fox Assault with more polish and a larger ratio of scripted flying missions over ground battles. The holdouts who only want Star Fox 64 part 2 would be satisfied as long as there was a good amount of flying missions and they played well, and the Assault fans would have been happy as long as they got more of the multiplayer from Assault where you can jump in and out of vehicles and have some on-foot combat, and the story continues.
A compromise between those two factions would not have been nearly as difficult as some people make it out to be. At the end of the day, everyone just wanted a good Star Fox game that pushed the series forward without losing its identity in the process.
Star Fox Zero doesn't know what it is. Not even Miyamoto knows what it is. He himself said he doesn't know wether it's a remake or a sequel-- narrative-wise it's obviously a remake of 64, but gameplay wise it's some cobbled mess of garbage that should never have seen the light of day. Literally no-one was asking for another remake of Star Fox, and no-one was asking for bullshit like the motion controls, gyro wing or the hacker bot.
>>340368715
Krystal isn't from Sauria. They mention this right in the opening cutscene.
>>340371091
>smug Peppy
I could get behind that
Wolf>>>>>>Falco>>>>>>>>Katt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Krystal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fara
>>340365176
And best Leon.
>>340370560
>>340367096
This shit right here is why I can never love a franchise, it either dies on me or gets raped into something horrid(ex. Mass Effect series).
Video related:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fWyzwo1xg0
>>340381963
You either die a hero or live long enough to get a 7 on Metacritic.
>>340352758
By following the path SF Zero started, the right formula is there, they just have to fix some issues like multiple control schemes, more content and a proper follow up to 64's plot.
This way, they'll avoid to fall in the Command and Adventures trap once again.
You could say the franchise iskursed
Lol, I liked this game
I don't really give a fuck about what anyone thinks or if a new game comes out or not or when if it does
Is there anyone as based as Tezuka at Nintendo?
"I have never consciously separated casual users and hardcore gamers when I design a game. For the past 20 years, I have always been trying to make games so that anyone -- as many people as possible -- can enjoy them... I cannot help but say that I love my job of making games from the bottom of my heart."
>>340352758
don't hear the 64fags, or just let it die.
IMO opinion Zero and Assault were both great games. If they couldnt save Star Fox, nothing will.
>>340387223
I can understand why 64fags would be unhappy with Zero since it was like an ironic inversion of the game they imagined in their heads-- they wanted a game that played like Star Fox 64 but had a new story, locations, etc., but since all Miyamoto heard was "make it like Star Fox 64," he just remade Star Fox 64, and then butchered the gameplay while leaving the story exactly the way it was, and having fewer planets.
At this point I think we can safely say that if there's ever another Star Fox game, the 64fags will not be the ones controlling the conversation. They wouldn't shut up about wanting "Star Fox 64.5," and now look where that's ended us up. Even if Miyamoto was the one ultimately responsible for why Zero is bad, this franchise can't afford a repeat of it.
There probably will never be another Star Fox game after this disaster, but hypothetically, if they were to try again it should be a game that takes place at some ambiguous time after Star Fox Assault, and re-introduces us to the team without having to drag us through past events all over again. 64 through Assault would still be canon, but the game should be written in such a way that it's the perfect place to start if you've never played a Star Fox game before, and if you've already played them all it will still offer a fresh and new campaign with great gameplay and a bigger, better multiplayer mode based on Assault's.
>>340352758
They already did.
It did not turn out the furry dating simulator you wanted, but it was a good game.
A game you could not date your waifu in, but a good GAME.
>>340389968
Then why did it sell poorly?
>>340390028
>Because gaymurz are stupid casual faggots and don't realize that this is the exact game that the series needs, REEEEEEE!
Seriously, I find it laughable that there are still people who are sticking up for this game. If Star Fox Zero had one job, it was to make Star Fox popular again, and it utterly failed at that. It did not bring any new fans to the franchise, and all we have to do is look at the sales charts to see that it turned off most of the fans of the older games.
If we discount Command because it's shit, then we can pinpoint there being roughly a million people who will consistently buy Star Fox games as long as they are of somewhat decent quality. Command only sold half a million copies, and Zero will not even sell that much. That means there's less than half a million people out there who will buy a Star Fox game regardless of how shitty it is, and seeing how badly Zero is selling, it's safe to say the game itself is on the shit end of the Star Fox spectrum.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10429180
>>340390028
Did it though.
>>340366492
Are you implying that 64 isn't based off of SNES?
>>340379703
>>340386586
>>340387278
I want to make her my sex slave
>>340394654
She is a generic gurl #89236572356. Your taste is plebeian at best.
>>340395270
>he doesn't want to fuck all animals
Fuck off subhuman
>>340364224
Fuck you, if anything they should double down on the furry. The game would finally have an audience again at least.
>>340397616
>Fuck you, if anything they should double down on the furry. The game would finally have an audience again at least.
Let's hope you never get to make important decisions ever.
