Has Oblivion aged well? Is it still comfy?
>>340334105
looks like garbage
>>340334105
No it's literally shit
That looks better than witcher 3
>>340334105
>Has Oblivion aged well? Is it still comfy?
It was never good or comfy in the first place
music is still comfy as fuck. the menus are much worse than i remember.
>>340334105
no
fuck yes
>>340334105
It's fine. Aged a lot better than Morrowind did.
Too bad the dungeons are crap. At least the main/guild questlines are pretty decent.
>>340334105
Aged way better than Skyrim and has the best OST of the series
>>340334105
Draw distance is what kills going back and playing it for me. It's just so fucking ugly and no amount of mods can make it decent enough.
I really need to do the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild questlines some day.. Too bad I usually spend 90% of my time modding the game and only end up playing a few hours before something crashes and I uninstall everything.
>>340334105
with tons of mods yeah
Oblivion had such a whimsical art direction. Just look at that sponge-paint grass. Whole place felt like a goddamn fairy tale.
Most of Skyrim feels like walking around some big snow monster's asshole, and everyone's face is caked with shit. What happened to muh colorful woodland landscapes and muh lullaby wonderland music and muh wily Elven voice actors?
Skyrim's all about that masculine burl and half the male voice actors sound like they're trying to poke their dicks through their pants while they're talking to you.
>>340335221
You act like 202 hours is impressive
>>340334105
yes yes and yes, with mods
only with mods
Oblivion without mods is a completely broken horseshit game with some great design to parts of it
mods make it one of the best games ever made, bar none
its flaws such as level scaling, engine limitations and bugs, combat and magic balance, and stale and repetitive environments are *all* solved and then some by mods
Skyrim is such a disappointment because it got right what Oblivion got wrong yet got wrong what Oblivion got right, making fixing it with mods impossible
>>340334840
>Aged way better than Skyrim
Disagree
>Has the best OST of the series
Agree
>>340335221
Dark brotherhood is good. Thieves guild isn't.
>>340336018
I had around 400 hours on the 360 version, also I'm pretty sure I've spent at least 500 hours in wrye bash. Most of the time you play Oblivion on the PC you don't have it launched.
>>340334105
Oblivion is a travesty of game design. Every single game mechanic is fundamentally broken in some way. Consider just level scaling alone: it means your character grows proportionally weaker as you gain levels. It fills the world with daedric armor-wearing bandits and 1000-HP mudcrabs. It makes all unique items gained from quests useless, as they also scale to your level at the moment you completed the quest. Just this one single mechanic irreversibly fucks up your character, the gameworld and the itemization.
Add to this dumbed down mechanics(AKA muh spears), Disneyworld game design, terrible console-first menu and inventory design, terrible quest design, terrible guilds(they're all just linear series of quests which can all be completed simultaneously, without any interplay between them, as in Morrowind), terrible stealth which makes you invisible to everyone simply by crouching in front of them, terrible dialogs, terrible character models, terrible lockpicking& persuasion minigames, terrible writing...
Pretty much one of the worst game of all time.
Also, let's dispel this notion that Oblivion quests are good. They are not good. 95% of them consist of running around in circles and hitting things with your sword. There would maybe be some exotic, terribly written reason for you to run in circles and hit things with your sword, which is apparently enough for neo-/v/ to proclaim these the best quests ever.
In fact, the only reason that the mediocre DB questline is so highly regarded is that it breaks the monotony of running in circles and hitting things with your sword. There's still no branching, no meaningful consequences, not a single skill or stat check in the entire questline- these are not good quests.
The only people who would find Oblivion better than Morrowind are the <20y.o. XBox kiddies who played Oblivion before they would know any better. It is the ultimate nostalgia-goggles game. And I'm not even particularly fond of Morrowind.
>>340336058
>engine limitations
>combat and magic balance
>stale and repetitive environments
What mods do you use for these?
>>340336696
But Morrowind had some of the most MMO-like quests of the entire series. How could you possibly think it did quests better than Oblivion?
>>340334840
>Aged way better than Skyrim
lolno. oblivion aged like milk, i'd rather play morrowind in 2016 than oblivion.
Its aged like milk
It runs like complete ass on modern rigs
its a pain in the ass to mod
>>340336562
Aight that makes more sense, I have the same problem.
all these niggers do not remember when this game first came out it was the best fucking graphics for their time.
>>340340391
It came out like a year after F. E. A. R. you dumb fuck
>>340340480
open world nigger
>>340337436
What are mods?
Coming out of those sewers must be one of the most iconic images of next-gen gaming for the decade. I remember everyone talked about Oblivion's graphics because of that image or variations of it. God damn I might just play Oblivion again because I miss seeing the Gold Tower from any point on the map. Comfy as fuck.t. Bethesda employee
>>340337436
>i'd rather play a game thatd aged even worse than this other game hat aged badly
youre a special snowflake
>>340341194
morrowind is an actual rpg
oblivion is dumbed down
and skyrim
is fucking garbage
>>340341190
Just sharpen the shit out of my everything
>any Elder Scrolls game
>age well
>implying they were good when they were released
>>340334105
>Bandits with glass armor robbing you for 50 gold
It aged a lot better than morrowind did.
I think so, but mine is chock full of lolis so
Music doesn't age, and the Oblivion OST is mad comfy
>>340341369
Morrowind is overrated trash. Only Morrofags think it's alright to hit a beginner level slug 20 times and only hit it twice
>>340334105
It's the comfiest TES.
>>340341524
overated
nigger you would not be posting in this thread without it faggot.
Oblivion always looked bad.
>>340341719
Oh yeah? Please justify Morrowind's horrid combat. Oblivion did it way better
>>340341915
dumbing it down > way better
>>340337123
Not him but read between the lines.
>terrible guilds(they're all just linear series of quests which can all be completed simultaneously, without any interplay between them, as in Morrowind)
He isn't praising Morrowind's quests either.
>>340342138
Dumbing down is a meaningless term, mostly used by hardcore Bethesdrones like you. Morrowind's D&D based combat is absolute shit and you know it. Even The Witcher 1's combat is more bearable
>>340334105
>Aged well
no
>Comfy
yes
>>340340993
>opening console instead of using tm
triggered
>>340342354
Oh wow you have to level up something in a rpg!
Skyrim > Oblivion > Morrowind
better mods too
prove me wrong
>>340334105
It's unplayable due to level scaling
>>340341721
Pretty much this
I loved the landscapes and the trees. BUT the game had a serious problem with the fucking textures. And Skyrim had the same problem. Those weird textures that look like they are made of wet clay or something. Very doughy. Everyone had a fucking potato face. For some reason your character didn't have a diagonal run animation like in Morrowind. Animations in general were dog shit.
I mean, yeah, the game looks like shit. I still think it's fun. Leveling system is fundamentally broken and should be wiped away with the power of modding though. Hell even if you don't like the game itself, attempting to mod it successfully gives you hours upon hours of entertainment
>>340342550
i started playing elderscrolls in 2011
>>340341369
>Morrowind is an actual RPG
It's an MMO, compared to Oblivion it has easier gameplay, no sense of needing to balance your build because you can max it all easily anyway, and the quests are the most straight forward linear piles of shit in the universe.
>>340342480
>Leveling up a stat just to hit something
Time to go back to D&D
>>340342741
oblivion is fucking easier then god damn morrowind
>>340334575
>It was never good or comfy in the first place
You can question if Oblivion was good but you can never, NEVER claim that it wasn't comfy. I haven't played a comfyier game in my life
>skyrim remake
Why can't they remake Morrowind or Oblivion, even if that would take much more effort to do.
I don't care what the v-parrot le hivemind is, Oblivion is a great game with great quests and great soundtrack.
>>340335680
That's the point though, the land of skyrim is completely different to Cyrodiil.
>>340342828
>ESdrones thinking Morrowind is difficult
cute
>>340343002
>Not admitting that older games have a higher difficulty than modern games
>>340342623
Oscuro's overhaul mod instantly fixes that.
And there are plenty of leveling mods that make leveling more logical. I like Oblivion XP plus.
I am a man who just jerked off.
I declare Oblivion the best game of the series with one of the best OSTs of all time.
>>340343057
Older games have fake difficulty due to graphical and engine limitations which gave most games back then horrid combat and gameplay
>>340342813
> go back to d&d.
You realise the first RPGs are a direct translation of pen & paper games to a digital format, right?
ALSO, morrowind is unique in roleplaying videogames in that it actually allows you to create a feeble gimp character, which is what you do when you make a character who can't even hit a fucking rat.
Congratulations, you made a gimp, you fucking retard.
>>340343168
Truly thou art a scholar and a gentleman.
>>340343187
games are more worthwhile because when you overcome something in a videogame you should be rewarded for it.
Not be fucking handed to you on a platter.
>>340343187
>fake difficulty
There's that meme again.
>>340342741
>morrowind quests
>linear
>practically every quest in the game that isn't a shitty beginning fetch quest has like three ways to finish it
>all the houses have different people you can align yourself with
>even the main quest has an alternate way to go through it if you manage to cock the main way up
>oblivion, easiest RPG in existence barring skyrim, somehow harder than any other game
t. man who has never played an elder scrolls game in his life
Post your hours, favorite civs, best mods etc
>>340343386
>Morrowind difficulty
>Aka save stating and then rolling the dice over and over
only if you mod the shit out of it.
oblivion has some great stuff in it but the leveling/skill system is absolutely fucked. And all the NPC's look like roadkill
>>340343483
You've got problems anon.
>>340343197
as shitty as most of the game is, Skyrim has a great leveling system. the perks leave a little to be desired but just the idea that there are no classes or anything and skills just level up as you use them, and after so many level ups of any skill you choose to put a point into either hp, stamina, or mana, is a really elegant and sensible system.
>>340343950
But there are classes. You even do a quiz at the start to determine.
what are some games similar to Oblivion?
>>340344274
Pathfinder.
>>340343675
nah i think he's fine
>>340342965
If I have to constantly worry about my every action misleveling me up while making enemies tougher, yeah it isn't fucking comfy at all.
>>340336860
Tesgeneral.com
>>340343483
byzantium
>>340344410
>>340343483
How do you guys do it? I normally get bored immediately after i start pulling away from other cultures in terms of military or economic strength.
>>340336696
>look ma I posted it again
(You)
>>340344575
multiplayer
>>340344247
Classes in TES were always meaningless. All they were was a particular arrangement of skills.
Prisoner > Hero of Kvatch > Dovahkiin
>>340344417
Google "Oblivion Realistic Leveling".
God, Oblivion looks so fucking ugly now, it's aged like milk, the models are all so terrible.
>>340344274
Aside from the other TES games, there really aren't any. That's one of the reasons Bethesda still does well despite the games not being great - they have no competition.
Although if you do have Oblivion, you'll probably like Nehrim.
>>340344707
>>340344707
You mean, like in classic pen and paper roleplaying games?
I mean, technically the only difference in the old class systems was different abilities.
>>340344826
the world itself looks really comfy but the characters are undesirable
>>340340993
i hope that's not your example of good graphics
>>340334105
>Aged well
No
>Comfy
Oh yes
I still go back to it from time to time.
>>340344792
>Muh mods
Fuck off. I'm so tired of hearing "It's better with mods". I don't want to bother fixing bad games. I'd rather play games that are fine on it's own.
The only reason the graphics aren't immediately offensive is because the face models have ALWAYS been complete dogshit. Otherwise everything else is passable.
>>340344894
>I mean, technically the only difference in the old class systems was different abilities.
You mean, the whole point of having different classes in the first place?
The point of classes is to have them do fundamentally different things, not just have different parameters in their stat sheet.
Yeah. Oblivion still holds up today. I'd rather play it than a all these new games that came/are coming out.
>>340345023
You're better off getting a console then, you obviously have ADD.
>>340345272
This.
>>340345023
Stay mad at your own incompetence.
Eternal reminder.
>>340345169
Exactly. In D&D, for example, a paladin can't cast Fireball or Eldritch Blast, and a sorcerer can't cast Turn Undead or use barbarian rage. TES games don't lock things out like that.
>>340345169
But anon, abilities -are- parameters. It's why dual-classing was viable in d&d.
>>340345529
>>340345583
He can if he dual-classed.
Hell, later editions blurred this even further with armoured arcana and magic item use.
>>340345583
>abilities -are- parameters
Nah.
>>340334105
You tell me.
>>340345715
Ya rly.
http://legendaryquest.netfirms.com/books/RPG_Design_Patterns_9_13_09.pdf
I suppose I should warn you now that I am both a neckbeard and an elegan/tg/entleman.
This game also came out in 2006. Comfy AND aged well.
>>340345649
Thanks. Was looking for this one.
>>340344575
>>340344652
1206 hour anon here, i have actually never played online multiplayer, only lan and single. sometimes i just take a day and play 8-12 hours of a single player file while listening to podcasts or youtube videos
>>340343483
>>340344518
>>340344410
>>340343675
fucking casuals
>>340345394
>>340345272
bethesda cucks think this
>>340344417
You can't mislevel unless you purposely sleep to level up dingus
>>340346280
>>340345023
What's it like to be this much of a sperg that you have to use your own incompetence as an excuse to hate a perfectly good game?
Leave.
>>340345891
>aged well
>>340346554
>>aged well
explain yourself pablo
>>340341524
Versus slugging 60+ arrows at a single zombie for virtually the same problem?
>>340346754
Looks worse than vanilla Morrowind
>>340347014
heh, memes
>>340345023
>I don't want to bother fixing bad games
You mean you can't do it. Don't fucking lie, cuck.
>>340336696
Skyrim was even worse. Most missions were:
A. Kill "x"
B. Collect "x"
C. Escort someone trying to complete an A or B quest.
Also the guild quests were done far better in Oblivion. They gave your character time to get to know the guild before the main plot kicks in by doing small jobs first. Skyrim instantly throws the main plot right at you from the get go. Finding out the Companions higher-ups were werewolves and this was a tradition only a handful of them know is a huge plot point and they tell you this on your first mission. And with the mages college you, the trainee who's been there for a few days at this point, are made the go-to mage for doing missions dealing with the Dwemer artifact from the start when really this should have been handled by more skilled members and later you get brought in. The Mages guild only gave a few hints at first that the necromancers were gonna be the threat to the guild with the banning of necromancy finding the black soul gems and not being told at first what they were.
I don't know what you mean by them being linear. Skyrim's were just as linear if not more due to them being quicker barely deviated from the main plot and even more separate as they barely interact with anything. Oblivion had the guilds interacting a few times. The thieves guilds stealing the Arch Mage's staff, stealing from the court wizard which could count as dismissal from the guild if you were a member and got caught as well as the fighter's guild quests regarding mages needing assistance. The mages guild even had you interact with the count of Skingrad.
>>340347063
>I disagree, therefore it's a meme
Game was shit at release, it's still shit today. Go play Nehrim, it's thousand times better.
>>340345891
Maybe the graphics aged well, combat and sound are atrocious.
>>340347407
you're objectively wrong
>>340345891
>>340346754
GIS tells me nothing, and like 20 RPGs came out in 2006. What game is that?
>>340347382
Plus, Oblivion's guild quests felt like they were actually trying to tell a story, while Skyrim's guild quests felt more like excuses to get you installed as guild leader as soon as possible.
>>340344247
not in skyrim.
https://youtu.be/qN80_7rNmcE
>>340348027
Graphics even that good. Environments are playing, but character models are fucking horrid to look at.
>>340334105
You'll spend 10 hours modding it then you'll never touch it again.
>>340348383
sorry. It's Gothic 3. Just started playing again this week, and jesus christ it is liberating as fuck. Here's a good video explaining why it's so cool in today's casual RPG world, if you can tolerate the faggot narrator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4g7WQcEXcc
>>340348424
Yeah you really don't feel like you earned your position. You killed a bunch of people who didn't like werewolves and fought an evil ghost all while still being a new member of the companions and with the mages you did a bunch of fetch quests and kill an evil wizard but you really don't know much of anything and there's far better people there that should be charge solely by wisdom alone. Makes no sense at all. You really should have ended up as the right hand of an existing member that gets the position.
>>340348775
346 hours and counting for me, and I spent a week writing the text guide on tesgeneral.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN80_7rNmcE
>>340348973
>>340348534
Why does this keep getting posted? It's funny but come on.
>>340349070
https://youtu.be/qN80_7rNmcE
>Here's my life savings, thanks for doing quest X!
>Life savings is 50 gold
>You can buy like 5 loaves of bread with that
the fuck
Someone post the picture that compares morrowind/oblivion/skyrim armors
It's a shame todd ditched the cool Roman theme the imperials had in morrowind.
>>340349070
were redditors, we need our upvotes
>>340334105
its still top comfy
and unlike skyrim, the only really absolute thing you need to mod it in is level scaling and character face models
>>340349323
To be quite honest every TES game has shit armor design. Thank fuck they're mostly played in first person mode.
>>340336058
what did Oblivion get right what skyrim got wrong?
>>340344417
>worry about my every action misleveling me up while making enemies tougher
I'm not sure how inept you are but I can guess
>>340349431
I liked morrowind armor
>>340334105
Video Games don't age, they aren't food or wine.
What are you retarded?
I love Oblivion, even still. It's a shame it's so fucking hard to mod.
>>340349701
http://pastebin.com/75fzM5te
>>340349323
I know the one you're talking about but for some reason I don't have it
Oblivion > Skyrim
Anyone who thinks otherwise is objectively wrong
>>340349769
Oh my.
>>340348835
Oh, ok. Thanks man! I've heard a lot about the Gothic games, so maybe its time to try them out.
>>340335680
>half the male voice actors
What is half of 3?
>>340348835
when gothic 3 was released it was annihilated by critics, it was inferior to 2 and 1 in almost every way.
The meme is real, if a game is old enough it became good because contrarians.
>>340349909
Waiting on Skyblivion, because i do like Skyrim's models.
>>340349509
Spell making, quests, more open face creator, more spells, better loot, etc.
>>340335221
Those are the best questlines though. Almost all of the game's good content is in DB, and I found the thieves guild pretty memorable
>>340349659
>Food analogy
>>340349509
>NPC AI, they would do neat shit and have more complex schedules, and an actual relationship system based on your fame/infamy
>Said reputation system
>Town size and art direction, every mayor settlement is pretty great, meanwhile I only can remember Markarth, Windhelm, Solitude and Edoras from Skyrim
>Dedicated magic button that allowed for more combat versatility
>Melee combat, while less well animated, was faster, more responsive and allowed you to attack while swimming and jumping
>More creature variety, Skyrim literally axed all daedra save for Dremora and Atronachs until Bloodmoon 2
>More spell effects and variety
>More skills
>actual world traversing skills (acrobatics and athlethics) that would have worked wonders for Skyrims Landmass
>Shivering Isles being the best DLC ever done by Bethesda
>lenghtier, funner and more inspired questlines
>Not every NPC is an utter ashole
>Bigger, more complex dungeons
Skyrim only really trumped it in animations, character models, landmass and dungeon assets
>>340334105
yes but it doesn't have press x to kill animations. beware! it also doesn't have a call of duty perk system. beware!
Enjoy having your bandits having the highest level armor. Shit game.
>>340350347
The fucking quests in Oblivion are still god tier. I'll never forget stumbling across that painting quest, one of the best experiences I've had in vidya.
>>340350015
hasn't gothic 3 got more fan patches than morrowind, oblivion & skyrim combined to make it decent now
>>340349986
Please don't fucking start with 3, start with 1
>>340350953
any tips on rebinding gothic 1 keys? this is ARMA tier
>>340348835
Wow, you weren't kidding about the faggot narrator...
>>340350832
It has but it's still far below the quality of 1 and 2, that said, I find the Gothic 3 world one of the most memorable and fun world designs around I'd recommend it only for that
>>340351086
I honestly don't know, I played it for the first time 2 years ago and I just got used to them at that time, it sucks for the first 30min-1hr.
>>340350953
>>340351171
I don't recommend this. Gothic 3 is by far more approachable for new people to the series. And the 1.75 patch is integrated into the steam beta tree, so it's easy as fuck to play.
>>340351486
It's great for a casual that isn't at all interested in the fucking series, that game is an abomination compared to the previous gothics that isn't even a fucking question and I played 3 first years ago because some dumb motherfucker like yourself said 'oh no you can totally start with 3'.
>>340350347
>allowed you to attack while swimming and jumping
Why the fuck was that removed in the first place?
>>340336860
>limitations
Unofficial Oblivion Patch, OBSE, Everything Viewable while distant, Open Cities
>Combat and magic balance
vanilla combat enhanced, Oscuro and Maskar overhauls, supreme magica update
>environments
Unique Landscapes, Better Dungeons, and aforementioned overhauls
>want to start a modded oblivion run
>it's also the hardest TES game to mod because it's so fucking unstable
>>340345891
And the music...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxdDBYX4cjg&index=39&list=PLBFD3E8DD73BC3640
>>340349987
>What is half of 3?
1.5??????
>>340351868
Wow, someone sure is salty.
>>340351910
>Everything Viewable while distant
My fps dropped to 5... :/
>>340349909
>mfw that second example literally happens in skyrim
I literally uninstalled it the moment it happened
>>340352903
Configure it m8.
>>340352553
Best elder scrolls soundtrack, hands down.
>>340352903
well... next time dont select everything
>>340352903
Just because you can make everything viewable while distant, doesn't mean you should.
>>340350832
i liked the game, played trough once on vanila
but the media and players "consensus" was it was shit, outside some niche groups
>>340352807
>salty
Wow, someone sure is underaged
What the fuck is there to age ? It was a rotten hunk of terrible shit when it was new, it'll be a rotten hunk of terrible shit now.
There's no greater way to tell someone has awful taste in games than by them enjoying Oblivion.
>>340355709
Get a load of this faggot.
>>340355709
and what games would an insufferable cunt such as yourself like?
>>340355709
Oh man I love coming to threads where discussion is warranted on a board for discussing video games and seeing people who just want to scream "it's shit" and avoid any kind of discussion at all.
>>340349323
I loved the bonemold armor in morrowind so much that I wore it far past the point of usefulness. I really hated the look of daedric and ebony armors in that game, it was a shame there wasn't a whole lot you could do to cool looking armorsets to make them more viable.
>>340334575
Dude, I used to call in sick to work, just to do an 8 hours straight. Wife wouldn't even know...
>>340355975
Hentai games.
I played Gothic 1 a few years ago, never finished it because it really didn't age that well (and I say that as someone who enjoys classic RPGs like Wizardry or Fallout), is Gothic 2 more accessible?
>>340348925
that looks so fucking comfy. my oblivion mods list fucked up recently and its broken, but this is making me wanna get it running again
>>340334105
I've though about replaying it sometimes, but I feel that if I don't mod it I won't enjoy it that much, I don't really want to go through the trouble of modding it though because I've forgotten a lot about the modding scene for it. I remember MMM, FCOM, the mods that made the forests better, open cities, Deadly Combat which I'm not sure is even good to use anymore, and that's about it. I could try just vanilla, but that wouldn't be much fun, I played enough vanilla back in the day and enough modded to not want to go back to vanilla again.
>>340357203
Though I will say at least with mod managers and sorting software modding Oblivion is a lot simpler these days, fuck modding was a pain in the ass early on, no shit like BOSS and I can't remember much in the way of mod managers besides Wyre Bash. Installing FCOM properly was a god damn hurdle.
>>340351884
Because fighting enemies underwater in TES is fucking annoying and always has been. At least they kept those shit eating slaughterfish to a minimum in Skyrim.
In the air was dumb to remove though.
>>340358623
>At least they kept those shit eating slaughterfish to a minimum in Skyrim.
by making you literally unable to attack them?
Name a SINGLE good game from 2006.
Don't worry, I'll wait.
>>340350347
>Dedicated magic button that allowed for more combat versatility
I guess it made it easier to play a spellsword or something, but I think Skyrim's system works better for a pure mage. Magic feels a bit more powerful when it's in your hands instead of being a sidearm like in Oblivion. Plus, Skyrim lets individual spells work differently - do they use one hand or two, how long do they take to charge up, do they fire a projectile or a stream, etc.
>>340350494
>press x to kill animations
That's not how the killmoves work. They're just something that occasionally happens when you kill an enemy normally. No QTE shit.
>>340334105
shallow games dont age well
>>340334105
Honestly, no. It's nothing a few mods and some TLC can't fix though.
>>340356295
same with me, but for high school
>>340361106
too bad Skyrim has like 20% the spells oblivion has so they're all boring as fuck
>>340361106
And Skyrim's system gives you more control over when you fire a spell, which helps with aiming.
>>340361106
The magic system in Skyrim had an interesting idea, but it was shoddily executed imo, there was a real lack of spells and no ability to make your own ingame. Could have been a good system had there actually been a lot more spells, I still think Morrowind had the best magic system out of MW/OB/SK
>>340361530
That's true, but the system itself is good, even if Bethesda didn't use it well.
>>340360270
Bully
>>340361735
it's only good for magic
it's absolutely dogshit for melee combat. 50% of all equipment possibilities dont let you even fucking block, making all combat encounters balanced so that you can win everything thorugh mashing lmb, since acrobatics has been removed too
It will always be comfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY41Q1FYokQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YKicBAMlBk
>>340360270
The ones I played:
Battle for Middle Earth 2
The Godfather
Rise of Legends
Blood Money
Just Cause
God Hand
that Jaws game
Gears of War
Medieval 2: Total War
Warhammer Mark of Chaos
The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy
Oblivion
>>340362060
>Battle for Middle Earth 2
>Blood Money
>Total War
>Oblivion
>>340361931
There could have been ways around that, like maybe an option to use the power/shout key for blocking when you have something in your left hand. You could make a lesser power called Parry or something for that purpose. And of course, if you're on PC, there's the Dual Wield Parrying mod.
>>340334105
>Has Oblivion aged well?
Vanilla?
Aged like cheese in the sun.
Modded?
Yeah. It gets pretty cozy.
>>340362613
>Dual Wield Parrying mod.
that shit has like a half second input lag mane
or maybe my comp is just shit
2134 hours logged on skyrim on steam.
not counting my first playthrough which was probably a good 1000 hours.
or the hundred hours i spent on ps3 when i bought it day 1.
i had actually never played a TES game. i didn't even know what skyrim was or that it was so hyped up. all i was wanting was a new rpg to play because i was sick of FF13 being a piece of shit.
>>340361993
Those are dope my friend, but I think these are two of Jeremy's best-ever compositions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klpDEb1tigs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGEOpAwMQg
>>340362723
Have you tried the newer version?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52979/?
>>340341524
What's wrong, did you pick up an axe and try to use it after putting your major skills as Alchemy, Enchant, Long Blade, Destruction, and Light Armor?
>>340362831
what do you do?
>>340363034
>http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52979/?
oh, neat
Thanks!
>>340361623
"Interesting idea, shoddy execution" describes a lot of things in Skyrim.
>>340363248
what, like, for a living or what do i do in skyrim?
i surely don't play games all day. i might get in 10 hours a week if i make myself play.
as for playing skyrim, i'm going for one final playthrough that's modded just right. started out like like 200 mods or some shit and i've got it down to 84. i'd say the game is 97% stable. i've cut a few corners here and there and i still save really often. i think my gamesaves are in the 3500 range and i'm like level 55.
mod manger the shit yo.
>>340359851
It just works.
Comfy soundtrack. Dungeons and enemies were x10 better than Skyman.
>>340343483
Roma, RED Xtreme
>>340361623
Spell making in Skyrim could have been extremely interesting if it made use of all the new variables the new system created.
I have never, ever, played a Elder scroll game before.
Which would you you recommend me /v/?
I want to play Oblivion for the first time, should I use an overhaul? If so, which one?
>>340373724
I'd say use Francesco's overhaul just to fix the level scaling. That's really the biggest problem with Oblivion. A lot of people might recommend OOO, but it changes a ton of stuff, and it's completely deleveled world will make questing a pain in the ass, because the game is designed around the idea that you can go anywhere at any point and not be completely overwhelmed.
>>340373546
I'd say start with Oblivion and then play Skyrim.
>>340373724
If nothing else, you should use Oblivion Character Overhaul to make the faces look decent.
Oblivion is fuck ugly, why are all the textures blurry as fuck? Fucksakes.
Oblivion was one of the most unintentionally silly games ever made, and it was better for it.
>Potato faces
>Goofy voice acting
>Amusing bugs
All these added to the games charm and it would have been much more bland and less fun without them.
>>340373546
Are you really into RPGs? I mean REALLY into them? If so, play Skyrim, then Oblivion, and then Morrowind. Why Morrowind last? Because then you can see how shitty Oblivion and Skyrim is.
It's still as bad as it was the day it came out, so yes, I'd say it has aged well.
>>340374813
Why not Oblivion and then Skyrim?
Wouldn't the graphic and maybe gamplay downgrade become annoying?
>>340374904
Because you have to go from worse to better, especially in the RPG department.
>>340343187
>fake difficulty
Is that anything like artificial difficulty?
>>340375041
Alrighty then, thank you very much Anon.
>Dat fuggin soundtrack
So fucking comfy at times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7NqyQCSz-Y
>>340344417
>>340336058
>>340336696
I've never understood what is wrong with scaling from a gameplay perspective. Unimmersive, sure. But you're never going to have trouble with enemies because of it.
>>340375295
When you got to really high levels game just became a chore. All these hard sponge enemies everywhere.
>>340373546
Depends whatchu like:
>Morrowind
immersive as fuck, will have you using pen and paper to keep track of quests and you'll feel like you're really part of an organic and strange world. For some that's a really good feeling. With overhaul 3.0 graphics are pretty passable. Game can be really obtuse though, not allocating your skills properly at the start can mean you'll MISS MISS MISS when you fight. Also quest vital NPCs can be killed and you'll need to save often, and READ.
>Oblivion
Comfy if you're into that, but graphics, even with mods, have a tacky artstyle. Best quests by far with likeable characters, and fun combat system. Some people call the setting generic, but Oblivion actually turns many standard fantasy quests on their heads. The game kinda feels weird to me, attacks carry no weight, spells have similar animations and NPCs talk about mudcrabs and rumors.
>Skyrim
Pretty easy entry level, better animations and effects. RNG Hell and same dungeon/enemies are re-used to shit. Although if you stray from the quests and just like wandering/exploring, this one has a few hidden gems, and rewards exploring. It the most satisfying feeling in terms of gameplay (combat/spellcasting) then the other two, but is shallow and repetitive if you wanna go questing.
I would recommend starting with Oblivion (with some mods) and seeing how that feels after a few levels, than deciding what you want.
>>340348424
>excuses to get you installed as guild leader as soon as possible
This.
Why the fuck did Kodlak die?
Why did Mercer not take someone like Brynjolf? If Brynjolf was dead it would have given him almost absolute control over the Thieves' Guild. Why did Brynjolf immediately trust you with an assignment relating to their most important connection just because you showed you could pickpocket a distracted Argonian?
Why were you instead of say the Destruction master Faralda sent to Labyrinthian to get the Staff of Magnus?
Why was an almost nobody trusted with assassinating the fucking Emperor of Cyrodiil when literally everyone else in the Dark Brotherhood at that moment was more qualified from a story perspective? Why would the Night Mother ever choose the player character?
>>340334105
it wasnt even good when it came out you stupid faggot gtfo
saw a mudcrab the other day
>>340334105
No.
It was never comfy in the first place.
It was my first buyer's remorse, even.
Odds I reinstall Morrowind and actually try to finish it for once in my life
Evens I reinstall Oblivion and set sail for comfy
Dubs or 0 I reinstall Skyrim and mod the living hell out of it
>>340376178
>/v/
>dubs
you have to go back
>>340376489that's kind of the point nigger
