http://www.gamerevolution.com/features/twitch-troll-donates-50000-to-streamers-paypal-refuses-refund
>The most notable case of this in the past few months was perpetrated by Twitch user iNexus_Ninja. This user reportedly is a young adult with a wealthy family and plenty of disposable income. Instead of using his money for good, last month he decided to troll Twitch by donating between $1,000 and $6,000 to more than 10 streamers. He got what he wished for: surprise and excitement. But that never lasts forever, and after the funds cleared he decided to request a refund on PayPal.
>PayPal refused to accept the refund request issued by iNexus_Ninja. He apparently made multiple attempts to get his money back, but was unsuccessful. Ultimately, the 10+ streamers involved have walked away with some extra income, and the troll has lost somewhere in the neighborhood of $50,000.
>>340317879
>has 50k to just piss away without thinking
>somehow troll loses
>>340317879
Haha wish someone would troll me with free money haha.
>>340318267
The fact that he tried repeatedly to get the money back says he was probably spending mommy and daddy's money without permission.
>>340318493
Yoshi pls.
>>340318267
It waa probably his life savings and it serves him right as well paypal should do this more often maybe these retards would find better things to do with their time?
at that point you block charges from your bank and hire a lawyer
paypal has no right to hold your money if you want it back, its a donation. there are laws to protect consumers
that petty bullshit is all cute for press and PR purposes, but reality of the situation is, they get away with that petty bullshit because its petty, when it starts becoming 50,000, you can sue and get your money back , or tie that money up in so many legal fees and court fees, that you can make paypal lose more money than they robbed from you, out of spite, and you might ultimately win too
its like that other retarded eceleb that got sued for making fun of people on youtube. like, you dont even need to win the case, you can just sue them and fuck them over with legal battles for years and drag that shit out to stress them thje fuck out
also paypal is like a huge jew bullshit industry that has some real bullshit policies for money donations, and cases like this might be precedent for refunds in the future
>people who use twitch are retards
Who would have thought
>>340318267
he will be when the dad who made that money kicks his ass
>troll
I'm pretty sure this word used to mean something, but I guess it doesn't anymore
Good. I hope he gets cancer.
>>340318880
>people stop donating to twitch streamers
>people stop streaming
>twitch and other streaming sites vanish
>everyone either starts playing games again or go back to watching netflix/hulu and leave games alone
None of this is a bad thing
>>340319054
In this context its correct though since hes leading them on, only to fuck himself.
>>340318880
Willingly spending large amounts of money and doing chargebacks is fraud you moron.
If his account was stolen maybe he'd have a case but there's so many steps toward actually donating to a streamer that any lawyer worth his salt could easily say he willingly gave them the money.
epic troll, he sure got them good with that free money
>>340319030
>rich people
>giving their kids more than a slap on the wrist
>ever
>>340319164
TB please
>>340318880
It's technically a charitable donation and the action of donating it through an Internet service which allows the recipient to see it and in turn to expect it creates a promise of sorts. Due to that the steamers could claim promissory estoppel under section 90 (b) of the restatement. While not sure fire (definitions and how they apply to twitch) that kid would face a legal battle and would probably get nothing back if he won due to legal costs
>>340319258
All he'd have to do is claim he meant to do 500.00.
Better than 50k
>>340319030
>young adult
>getting his ass kicked by his dad
sad but hilarious desu
Can't he just, you know, go to his bank and demand the transaction be reversed?
>>340318880
>at that point you block charges from your bank and hire a lawyer
Any lawyer worth hiring will look at the case and then tell you that you can't win.
>paypal has no right to hold your money if you want it back
Actually, they do. You sent the money to someone's paypal, knowingly and willingly. You don't get backsies on transactions just because.
> its a donation.
You do not get to rescind donations once given.
> there are laws to protect consumers
None of which apply here.
>that petty bullshit is all cute for press and PR purposes, but reality of the situation is, they get away with that petty bullshit because its petty, when it starts becoming 50,000, you can sue and get your money back
You have no grounds to sue. The damages he is suffering are 100% self-inflicted. Paypal, and the streamers, are not in any way at fault for his stupidity.
>or tie that money up in so many legal fees and court fees, that you can make paypal lose more money than they robbed from you, out of spite, and you might ultimately win too
Ignoring that this suit with likely get dismissed with prejudice, here are two problems.
1: Lawyers are expensive, and if you lose, your lawyer will still need to be pay. It's going to cost both you and paypal more.
2: Assuming this went to trial, it's entirely possible that the plantif can be ordered to pay the defenses' legal fees. A dangerous game to play.
>>340319459
That might work for a single charge. Not 10 different times.
>>340319459
That wouldn't work because in the video he does multiple high number donations to the same streamer
>You say you meant to donate 25.00 but here it says you donated 250.00 fives times to this
>>340318493
i'm gonna troll you bro!
>>340317879
that's what you get for being a retard
keep the "trolling" to shitposting on the internet, not shit with real life repercussions
>>340319638
They investigate with cases that are in the 20 dollars range, to make sure no one gets fucked. You think they wouldn't put a little investigation for 50k?
JUST A PRANK BRO
>claim account and bank info was stolen
>paypal legally cant refuse
What an idiot this kid is.
>>340320049
Is Laura good for a beginner?
>>340319638
no, because you can't intentionally spend money just to do a chargeback
if he did it once he may have a case, but he did it multiple times
so much for being an ebin troll
Everyone that tries to fuck with e-celebs and shithead streamers is my friend, I say we should collect all that money back and give it to him.
which streamers? anyone who actually needed the money? otherwise just sounds like a bunch of dickbags being dickbags to other dickbags
>give people money with the sole intention of taking it back
>you're too dumb to know they just recently changed the rules so you can't get it back
>lose all of your money because you're a retard
Sounds good to me
>>340317879
I bet the was 'ironically' donating to those 'ironic' twitch whores
>>340318493
I would but I'm too lazy to even spend my own money
>>340319458
no its fucking not, its a donation, not a charity organization, youre a retarded little neckbeard trying to play lawyer on an issue you know nothing about
>>340319690
>retarded pleb trying to dictate to me what law is
no, its a donation, the donation giver has full rights to revoke a donation on grounds of changing their mind or cancelling payment, there is no obligation of payment, its not a service.
not going to argue with you, youre an idiot obviosly trying to dismiss the concept of what a lawsuit even is.
>you cant win
says fucking you? the retarded neckbeard on 4chan ?
>law doesnt apply to money
you're a fucking retard
>You have no grounds to sue
>Ignoring that this suit with likely get dismissed with prejudice
oh here we have mr neckbeard at law expert on what a company is entitled to do, with someone's entire life savings
guess what nigger, nothing is concrete. you can always get your money back law is debatable.
you're some dumb little fucking 20 year old neckbeard trying to dictate to me what i already know to be completely wrong
Look at section 90 (b) of the restatement of contacts before sperging. Or Cardozo opinion in Allegheny college
>>340318493
Haha do you think he is embarassed now haha
50k lighter haha
>Donate 50 000$
>Can't get it back
WOOOOOOOOOOW
>>340322140
Lol, just sue them already and get your money back man.
>>340321115
they should make this a JoJo episode.
>op opens up with a direct link
>no pastebin in sight
Im sure, 100% sure even, that this did indeed happend.
>>340322140
Yes because your anonymous posts are waaaay more credible than the other anons....because.... you said so?
Right, got ya. Why are you even sperging out so hard over internet arguments.
>>340319164
hello gamer gurl xDDD
>>340322140
>being this buttflustered over being contradicted
W E W L A D S
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>>340322140
>buttmad know it all
You dont know shit baby boi
>>340323690
>blahblahblah
you're a fucking retard, google it you dumb little nigger, it happens every month people sue to get their money back
>>340323349
its not me, im just not going to sit here and let some little fat manchild lecture me on the merits of law, when law is subjective argued and debated about on a daily basis
>>340324078
>>340323982
>LE REDDIT RESPONSE XDd1111!11
whats the matter nigger, can't upvote the retard spouting complete fucking bullshit? must really suck to be you
>>340319258
Looks like someone knows some shit here
This
IT WAS JUST A PRANK!!!!
>>340325023
Maybe if you calm down people will be more willing to listen to you. As it is you're just screaming that everyone but you is retarded while refusing to explain why.
The other anon clearly articulated his points, could you perhaps stop spazzing out and try making an actual argument?
>>340325023
Thank you for making this tread interesting autistic anon
It's almost as if you shouldn't give people money for attention with the specific purpose of taking it back later.
>>340325023
Geez take a chill pill, brah.
>Anon claimed this donation was a joke
Wow.
What a retard.
>50k
>anywhere near a lot of money
That's like a month's wages if you're a respectable adult.
>>340327165
That's a year's salary for medium-rare skill jobs.
Wow, what a bunch of edgelords. Lost my fate in humanity today again.
This kid might not be able to go to college without that $50k. Do you know what this means? His entire life might be ruined. Is this still funny for you guys?
Why do people still use paypal when they treat their customers like crap?
this is what happens when you don't use credit
>>340327474
His family is wealthy.
But, if it really was his college funds, then he is a fucking idiot for using it to be an ebin troll and shouldn't go to college.
But since he has that much money to blow then it won't effect him to much.
>>340327039
the classic Thad Defense.
>>340327474
Yes it's actually funnier.
Don't do risky things if you aren't willing to take the risks :^)
>>340327165
considering the bulk of the populous wont earn over 20/30k in a year, it is.
>>340328040
As in Thad Castle?
>>340318267
>M-MOM CAN I HAZ UR CARD NUMBER FOR A PRANK?
>trolling people by giving them money
Where did these idiots come up from? There was that legendary 'tard who backed a Kikestarter at a $10k pledge tier and forgot to cancel on time...
>>340328229
Mad Thad
>>340328207
Poorfags don't count as people.
>>340328418
"Tell 7 year old girls to stop sucking dick so sexy"
Jesus christ.
>>340322140
>the donation giver has full rights to revoke a donation
It's a legally binding act you mongrel.
>>340328418
I wouldve loved to see him getting grilled by the detectives. Holy shit. What became of him?
>People think 50k is actually worth something
The reason why people think it's so much is because the majority of people live a middle-class lifestyle.
You CANNOT comprehend the amount of money rich fucks are willing to literally waste away. 50k is pennies found in your pockets for them. Maybe for an upper-middle class family it might be cause for concern but if the kid's family is loaded as shit, the worst that would happen is a slap on the wrist and possibly a limit of how much money they can spend a year (You can assume they're allowed to spend more than 10k a year, a month for the extremely rich).
Yeah sure, the troll's plan kind of backfired on him, but in reality it really won't impact if they're rich as fuck.
>>340329689
Still in prison with parole possibility in 2018 I think
>>340328418
>/things/don't click
>/things/don't click/teens
>/things/don't click/teens/cp
>/things/don't click/teens/cp/cp
>>340327474
He shouldn't have bern trying to be a cunt to people for no reason. If his family has that much money to piss away trying to fuck with streamers then he should be fine.
Little shit learned a very valuable lesson today.
>>340328418
>On 11/02/2011, MCMICHAEL wrote "that feel after you fap to cp. It's a feel like none other. It's like your floating on cloud 9 or something. fapping to some 40 year old woman with fake tits makes your cum smell rotten. But fapping to a 9 year old girl attempt to please some guy with a hairy stomach makes your cum squirt out with such pure intensity that you feel like your floating on air. and the way your dick feel, OH GOD YOUR DICK will feel so fuzzy and warm. You moralfags need to at least try to fap to some cp at least once before you die. Because there is no other feel like it."
>MCMICHAEL claimed this post was a joke.
>>340328418
The single greatest proof that criminality is due to mental illness.
He's a fucking mongoloid. As soon as he saw they weren't charging back he should've lawyered up and appealed to the thing with
>I was tired I wasn't feeling well my feet hurt it was actually [bullshit 500 or 5000]
As in show any amount of good will. The key that fucked him up was probably his spending history on his paypal account and the "lololo" chargeback.
Why isn't this thread just a bunch of laughing reaction faces posted at the fucking retard thinking he could get away with being a giant asshole? Why are there people defending this piece of shit? What the fuck is going on?
>>340328418
>Also located on the usb flash drive was a copy of MCMICHAEL'S resume
Not sure how I missed it before, but this is great.
>>340331545
Because let's play is cancer and one of the main reasons gaming is dead. You pay to watch other people live sucking at playing games that play themselves because people don't care about playing them but they pay so that someone else does.
>>340327165
You need a two year degree or to live near an automotive factory to make 50k a year. Really more in the range of 40k starting.
>>340331737
>gaming is dead
I hope you're not actually this deluded.
Let's plays and streaming has in no way killed off gaming at all.
>>340331737
so you defend some rich little shithead who fucked up on the internet "for the cause"?
>>340328418
I really hope the shit he had saved was just fictional, don't tell me this assclown had actual CP
>>340331545
whiteknights, or whatever you would call the stupid people's equivalent of whiteknights
>>340332176
He's in prison currently, so I'm guessing it was actual cp.
>>340331737
How is gaming dead? I could have sworn I was playing a video game just minutes ago.
>>340332298
Was that the black guy or the guy with the fucked up teeth (you know which one)?
>>340319851
>i thought i was clicking the "give my money back button"
>i'm not good with computers
![Based+mad+thad+this+was+hilarious+body+pillows+youtube+_611e79f26e348dc90b313603fb47ade4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qCOkXLG.jpg "Based+mad+thad+this+was+hilarious+body+pillows+youtube+_611e79f26e348dc90b313603fb47ade4[1].jpg")
>>340332424
This guy.
>>340332424
black guy
mad thad
>>340317879
These people don't deserve to have such wealth.
>>340318493
IT´S JUST A PRANK, BRO!
>>340332567
>>340332582
Oh yeah, didn't he get paroled and got right back in when he said something like "Thank God they didn't find my back-up drive"
>>340320558
Even better, you should just donate all that money to me.
That would show those shithead streamers whatfor.
Paypal isn't even a fucking bank.
>>340332776
he got house arrest without internet.
Then he twittered "glad they didnt find my backup drive"
>>340318880
Damn you're stupid. Let me tell you now that you'll never out stress a multimillion dollar company with your strip mall lawyer. The companies only drop the case because you aren't worth their lawyer fees. But if they wanted to they could drag on the case until you're flat broke.
>>340325023
lmao what is actually wrong with you
>>340328418
IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO
>>340325023
Kek. You're literally autistic aren't you.
>>340328418
Man, I remember people sharing his facebook posts here all the time. Mostly that one about 'that feel when cumming to CP'. Plus all his pictures posing with body pillows and anime figures.
Then this shit happened. Just fucking icing on the cake. The life and death of Mad Thad was some fun.>it's been 4 years since he was partyv&d
>I've wasted so much time here
>>340328418
>claimed this post was a joke
It was funny to me until that adoption scheme and shit got dark..
>>340330902
>cherrypicking is the greatest proof for a broad issue
>>340318836
>Rich family
>$50,000 is his life savings
No. That is middle class.
>>340319194
>>people stop donating to twitch streamers
>>people stop streaming
hownew.ru
streaming came first, then the money
yes lots of high quality (and obnoxious) streams would disappear but that would be fine.
>>340317879
that kid is going to get his ass tore up
>>340322140
Is 'donation giver' the legal term for it, you stupid fuckstick? The word you're looking for is 'donor', but continue to impress everyone with your internet law degree. You can't just take your money back because you feel like it, precisely to stop stupid shitheads like the 'troll' mentioned in OP or other people who get buyer's remorse over their own stupid decisions.
>>340317879
Can't he issue a bank chargeback?
>Listen (insert bank), I accidentally typed an extra zero when donating some money to these streamers and they won't give it back
>>340334736
if you make 20,000 dollars a year you are in the top 1%. the top 1% of the world
check your privilege shithead
>>340331737
>not watching/listening togoodstreamers while playing vidya
Maximum comfy, faggot. Better than netflix because you don't miss much while focusing on the game, and better than podcasts because you have something to look at during load screens/unskippable cutscenes
The only thing Let's Plays and Streaming did was let retarded kids think they know things about games because they watched Markiplier play them.
Never forget streaming fucking started on /v/. We inadvertently made Twitch. Even if it was probably inevitable as software and infrastructure became available, we did it first.
>>340335091
Yeah if its $20 but if you try and chargeback $20,000 someone WILL pursue it, and if you "win" you will destroy your (parents) credit.
>>340317879
Literally just run a chargeback
>>340335103
>because you're in a country whose economy isn't shit, be sure to acknowledge some dumb shit my cognitive dissonance neglects
>>340328418
>WELL TELL 7 YEAR OLD GIRLS TO STOP SUCKING DICK SO SEXY
errytime
>>340335103
>if you make 20,000 a year
>top 1%
kek everything above a minimum wage job is the 1% huh
>>340318880
>that petty bullshit
How are you going to call refusing to give the donation back petty, when the entire reason the guy "pretended" to give the money was for epic lulz?
>>340335992
when compared to the entire world not 1% but definitely top 20% easily
>>340331027
I feel like the fact that he gave out thousands over multiple donations would fuck that defense up
The refunded money should get evenly redistributed to everyone who ever donated to the streamers, it's only fair.
>>340328418
Dennis?
>>340328418
What a fucking mong.
>>340328418
>THIS HOUSE IF FUCKING SHIT.
wew i knew it was bad in american but didn't know there were kids this shitty there.
>>340335992
Lemme know if I did the math wrong here.
Assuming a 40-hour work week, and 52 work weeks in a year, 20K/yr is about 9.61/hr. Assuming you work every weekday of every week throughout the year, of course.
Is that more than the vast majority of people?
>>340337397
Apples and oranges my friend, not that a new right cuckster like yourself would understand the difference between a private transaction and government taxation.
>>340338250
34k is the actual top 1% of income.
Also, the average income in the world is less than 10k.
![This+is+thaddeus+mcmichael+an+infamous+4chan+user+_3900b2e8423b0165a7c97b477978553b[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Txdtz62.png "This+is+thaddeus+mcmichael+an+infamous+4chan+user+_3900b2e8423b0165a7c97b477978553b[1].png")
>>340328418
>its this guy
wew didn't know his name.
>detroit
lol
>>340338448
so what does that make my dad then he makes in the ballpark of 90k
>>340333159
>>340337397
That is gold.
>>340319736
you would be a shitty lawyer
