What is this fuckshit? Who let this happen?
>literally everybody dropped SF4 despite it being a million times better than the dogshit that is V
is marvel ded?
>>340303856
>million times better
>nobody plays it
Yet after 15 years, people are still playing Melee. Acceptance that your game is shit is the first step.
That's a shame that KI is so low. It's way better than SFV.
>people whining that SFV is shit and that they're just gonna go back to Ultra
>nobody actually shows up to support Ultra
>>340304473
KI just had Combo Breaker which is way more relevant to them than CEO
>most players for smash
>not even a fighting game
is the FGC dead?
Smash bros should not be here at all whatsoever.
>>340303660
>Smash 4 is the highest
These tears are delicious.
>>340303660
>Pokken that high
Told y'all a pokemon fighting game was gonna be a big hit
>>340303660
What's wrong with it, Anon? Who hurt you?
>>340303660
Just like I planned.
Wasn't expecting Guilty Gear and MKX to have the same number of people.
Here's some up to date numbers
>>340304904
fgc will never die regardless of how many big tourneys sell out to esports and party game shit, it's been around and underground for longer than most other competitive gaming scenes. it'd be no more 'dead' if mr wizard and his fat jew ass invited mobas to the main stage next year, it's his prerogative.
Smash is a fighting game.
Florida has a massive Smash 4 scene (even though they are like the fifth best), and it probably has some crossover.
>>340304142
Because Crapcom supports SF5 and the pro tour is SF5. If pro tour was SF4 everyone would play that instead. That's just how it is. Smash doesn't have Nintendo sponsored pro tour, it's all community shit.
>>340306594
when is Virtua Fighter 6?
>>340306594
>KI gained the highest percent more entrants
we did it bros!
>>340303660
>Memelay not even second
These tears are delicious
>>340304904
melee is a fighting game tho
>guilty gear having slightly less entrants than fucking MKXL
WE DID IT ANIME BROS
>>340306594
Tekken tied with Pokken
what the fuck is happening!?
>>340311397
Pokken is offering a load of money, only reason anyone still plays it
>>340304142
People still playing Melee are more autistic than the Sonic and the Undertale fanbase together
>>340311465
What kind of stupid logic is that.
>>340311397
Please tell me the button checks on Tekken will be less of a slog to watch.
>aw shit I gotta check my buttons, hey let me take 3 rounds off of you real quick.
>quick being a whole minute of wasted time.
>>340311598
>>340311598
The same logic that keeps mobas around?
>>340303856
Pokken is a baby tier easy game with the Pokemon license for widespread normie appeal, same reason the rest of the popular games are so high.
>>340311487
are you implying Melee is not only the best fightan ever created but not the best game ever?
>>340311935
You're not even worthy of a bait image
>>340303660
>W10 will save KI
So much for that meme
>>340312990
No one has to imply, look at the numbers.
T H I R D
H
I
R
D
>>340311284
Even FatWizard is with us
>>340314741
And yet MK has more entrants than Guilty Gear..
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of MK indeed.
>Nintendomination
Someone oughta do something
Smash doesn't need CEO & EVO, CEO & EVO need Smash.
>>340303660
>Pokken has more than twice as many applicants as MAHVUL
Holy shit
>>340311759
that's not happening until home console version of t7 comes out
WHERE THE FUCK IS NARUTO STORM?
I bet it could reach 300 entrances.
>>340315865
ceo is a shitty tourney
>>340316324
Of course is pokemon, USA has too many pokefags too maaany japan 2
>>340303865
It wasn't going to last forever.
>>340315138
Probably meant in terms of enjoyability and viewers. People only play play MK just because WB coughs up the big bucks.
>>340315865
>Smash and Pokken combined have more entrants than literally every other game combined
Jesus Christ
>>340316652
Jebailey > Alex Valle
>smash 4 bigger than melee
Melee is dead
>>340304904
Ayyyy stay mad FGCggot, smash remains a fighting game
>>340316819
MKX tournaments are a sonicfox donation drive desu senpai
>>340315138
>>340316819
those are ceo numbers not evo
>>340304654
What was KI number for combo breaker?
>>340313843
but the hype combos! combo breaker is such a great mechanic!
>>340303856
Everyone dropped SF4 because SF5 just came out.
Unlike Smashfags, the FGC plays the latest versions of franchises at tournaments.
>>340303856
people played it for 8 years. Shit gets old, and there's PLENTY of alternatives, versus say Melee. Melee is even more played out but it's literally all you have.
>>340317106
146 or so I think, but it was above melee and pretty middle of the road out of all game numbers
>>340317018
He didn't win Combo Breaker, maybe people are finally starting to get better and adapt to his playstyle
>>340317275
I still don't get this, surely by now someone could develop a decent alternative. Even a big studio as there is obviously a player base there
>>340317275
>but it's literally all you have.
memey
>>340317128
Right. Party games is where it's at.
>>340317414
For an event more focused on it that is pretty bad going. I feel bad that KIfags never got to have more of a chance, but I also don't like the game at all
>>340317596
Well yes, apparently they are. It's hilarious to see you people still grumbling about it now that it's clear they're here to stay.
>>340314437
Melee is almost fifteen years old
>>340317984
DELETE THIS
>>340316652
>the city of Apex
Feels great seeing the smash haters getting BTFO every single event
>>340317275
>it's literally all you have.
Brawl and Smash 4 exist.
But Meleefags refuse to play those because they're NOT MUH MELEE. They're stubborn and refuse to move on.
SFV is garbage they tried to appeal to pros and casuals and ended up fucking up with both.
>>340320237
>refuse to move on.
Did you know that Brawl had events where it had nearly doubt the entrants that Melee had? They tried to move on, but they didn't like it so they moved back to Melee and stayed there.
>>340319838
LAST FUCKING WARNING
DELETE THIS POST
>>340320237
>refuse to play those because they're NOT MUH MELEE
So you expect people to play those other iterations just because they're MUH SMASH?
When the game play is objectively worse?
>>340303660
>Most casual games up top
Is this a rare occurrence?
>>340320974
SF fanbase moved to V without complaining.
>>340320237
Brawl and 4 are different beasts mechanically. As successors they went in an entirely different direction. I'll be the first to admit Melee is stale as fuck, but 4 and brawl are not side-grades unless the only thing you care about is roster, music and stages. I certainly never want to hear Melee's music again but let's be real here.
>Third Strike Players
>SF4/5 comes out
>No thanks. I like my game.
>Melee Players
>Brawl/4 comes out
>Proceeds to berate anyone liking smash sequels and goes full autism
Every time.
>>340321124
SFV hasnt fucked up and butchered the core street fighter gameplay like brawl did to smash.
>>340321124
>without complaining
have you seen this thread? numerous people still shilling for 4
Also the first part of this
>>340308650
They're forcing it down your throats basically
>>340321479
>I certainly never want to hear Melee's music again
please nigga, the moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFiQH2QMJFA plays y'all gonna be hype as always.
>>340311487
Completely agreed. I can't for the life of me understand why people would keep playing a game over a decade old when two improved sequels came out. If you really like melee why not at least get project M, which plays like melee but has the improved roster of brawl? Or move on to smash 4 because it's the newer and better fucking game.
>>340317268
But why would you do that, when the new game doesn't innovate in a meaningful way, and is overall much worse than the previous game? Are Street Fighter babies that impatient? They must have the newest thing?
>>340312990
It's not though. Brawl and Smash 4 are better. When a better sequel comes out the older game becomes obsolete. Melee fans are so fucking autistic I swear. Get over your dead game already.
>>340321606
Many Street Fighter players think that SF5 is too simplified from SF4.
They still moved on to SF5 because they're not whiny pussies.
>>340321479
>Brawl and 4 are different beasts mechanically.
Street Fighter 2, 3, 4, and 5 are all mechanically different beasts.
Street Fighter players still moved on.
>>340321860
>two improved sequels
Keyword here, Improved.
The sequels are trash in terms of gameplay.
It's like going from playing a game like 3S to ShaqFu.
>Project M
Dead illegal game mod.
Contrary to most other games, the melee community does not depend on their parent company for tournaments. Melee is held by the blood its players and nobody else.
Nintendo has done JACKSHIT for melee, so why the community "move on" when the gameplay keeps evolving to this very day?
Just because something is new doesn't mean its better, especially the atrocious videogames of nowadays.
>>340321124
>without complaining
This isn't even remotely true.
And even then 4 to 5 is still WAY less of a leap Melee was to Brawl. You can still frametrap, OS, meaty and all that good stuff, even if it's almost strictly worse.
>>340321479
What about project-M? That makes brawl's gameplay like melee but with the improved roster and graphics. I'm a smash 4 player myself but if I was that obsessed with melee I'd just play project-m. Plus you can mod it and do anything you want with it.
>>340321606
You'd be surprised how much pros have expressed their distaste for V in general.
>>340322212
You didn't give me one good reason why a melee player wouldn't just move on to project-m.
>Dead illegal game mod
You're literally just spouting buzzwords like a retard. Project-m plays just like melee but without you having to play a nearly 15 year old game with a stale ass roster and terrible, old-ass graphics. The graphics aren't even old enough to be retro, they're just old enough to be really fucking ugly without any nostalgia value.
Melee fags just don't know when to let go. If there's only a handful of people who are going to win any given tournament the game is dead.
>>340322530
(You)
>>340317268
the FGC are huge fucking faggots, only a huge faggot would stop playing sf3
>>340322530
Keep in mind, I play smash 4 because when a sequel comes out, unless it's total trash, I move on to it instead of playing the old one like an autist. Smash 4 has a bigger and better roster, better graphics, plus I can take the 3ds version over to friend's houses and shit. I'm just saying if I was a huge melee fan I'd rather play a prequel that is one decade behind that you can mod as much as you want then play a 15 year old game that's stuck exactly like it is with a tiny roster and shit graphics.
I can't wait for KOF to save next year's EVO
>>340321603
how much money did Diago make in 2015 by playing sf3 tournaments?
ZERO MONEY IS HOW MUCH, YOU FUCK
>>340322690
I meant to say I'd rather play a prequel that is one generation behind. My mistake.
>>340322178
And all 5 manage to overlap those mechanic techniques. It didn't ever condemn the good players, and 5 at it's worst was just trying to weaken 50/50 situations.
>>340322367
You can't mod out the Brawl engine.
>>340322690
>so i can bring my 3ds
stopped reading this b8 post there
>>340322690
>the graphics
>small roster
hows greninja doing?
still nerfed?
>>340322178
You wouldn't understand unless you actually played melee.
This is nowhere near the changes SF has seen, no.
Going from melee to brawl is like if SF moved on to a SF with:
-No low, high, crossup, overheads. Blocking is universal
-single button attacks for all specials
-auto combos
-everybody moves 20 times slower
-all attacks have 10 times the recovery frames
-babyfied neutral
-no blockstrings whatsoever
-you can just block all day
>>340322530
Project M tried to cheaply copy melee.
Their idea of "balance" was to give everybody shitty chaingrabs over the shit-tastic brawl engine, and create a MU clusterfuck.
>giving a shit about graphics
Retard.
>nostalgia
I started playing melee competitively 2 years ago. I have no nostalgia for this game.
The gameplay is good, the neutral is tight, the movement is fucking amazing, the combos are freefrom and endless. There's just too many reasons to play melee over the other smash games.
>>340322559
>If there's only a handful of people who are going to win any given tournament the game is dead.
You mean like every other fighting game out there? Oh man, I can't wait for an American to take SF this year : )
>>340322642
You don't remember when the western FGC hated SF3 so much they refused to even host it at tournaments when it was brand new? Tokido had to convince people to try it.
>>340322212
>The sequels are trash in terms of gameplay.
Smash has always been trash in terms of gameplay, so that's not an excuse. Meleefags refuse to move on because they can't exploit programming oversights in Brawl and 4 like they can in Melee.
>Nintendo has done JACKSHIT for melee, so why the community "move on" when the gameplay keeps evolving to this very day?
Why should Nintendo support a game from two generations ago that they no longer print copies of? You're acting like a retard that thinks Nintendo should have kept supporting SNES games in the Gamecube era.
Nintendo moved on, you didn't.
And no, the gameplay doesn't continue to evolve. There are a select few characters anyone uses because they're the only viable characters.
Tell you what, if you can make Melee Kirby a top tier character, I'll say that Melee's gameplay is evolving.
>>340303660
>KI at the bottom
Makes me sad that the best fighting game has got a shit rep because of the Xbones abysmal launch
>>340322809
Have you ever even played it? Do you not know what the M in project M stands for? It stands for melee. They changed it to make it play more like melee but with a better roster and graphics. Fucking read what people type before responding. I only know one person irl who plays melee and he's a black furry with a diaper fetish. I can only assume this is representative of the whole melee community because you're playing a game that is so old that if it were a human it would be in high school. That's fucking insane.
>>340303660
Is this the new "limb-based combat"?
>>340321479
How about this mix instead then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXNzGOdGwKg
>>340322690
>3ds
>cares about graphics
Man, the bait too obvious.
Test
>>340322984
>wow mom look im lying on the internet
>>340322741
Diago actually doesn't like SF3. It's the reason he quit the genre for a while.
>>340322886
not to mention letting the top players get balance inputs on their characters and having the entire cast be balanced around easy 0-deaths on fox/falco with retarded recoveries and gimp potential
thats not to say that some of the changes weren't improvements but a lot of it confuses me
>>340322984
Do you know the engine is different and can't actually replicate Melee physics right? You can have Melee hit-stun and recovery, but you always have to play in Brawl physics.
unironically looking forward to Ki the most
>that music
>that fast paced everything
I just wish ps4 got the game so its following would be larger
>>340322367
The problem with PM is that it's just that, a mod. That alone solidified that it would never be quite as huge as an official game like Melee. Of course now we have Nintendo breathing down our backs with them sponsoring tournaments so that's ultimately what led to PM being kicked off from VGBootcamp, thus hurting its popularity, and ultimately the PM team got super paranoid and just decided to shut Project M down to avoid being sued.
>>340322917
Why would you give a shit about modern nintendo?
Are you one of those retards that bought a WiiU?
Nintendo hasnt made a good game since the early wii days.
And saying the gameplay isn't evolving because you're a low-tier cocksucker means jack. What is discovered can be applied to all characters, but guess what buttmunch? Faster characters can do said options better, and said characters tend to be top tiers.
But to please your low-tier faggotry I'll let you know that even fucking Bowser is still getting new advanced techniques, with 2 new advanced techniques discovered a couple months back.
>>340303856
5 is a lot better than 4, at least in terms of mechanics
>>340303660
they really should kill melee
>>340322819
How does that make it a bait post? I have lots of friends with 3ds' and I bring it to their houses when I hang out. Do you think it's a bait post because I own a 3ds? Because lots of people own 3ds'. I just don't see what you mean at all.
>>340322847
I don't get your point either. Greninja's fine I guess. One of the cooler pokemon but I find him really easy to beat and don't play him much. Are you saying he's too weak or too overpowered? Because if it's the latter there are many people on the roster that are accepted to be way better than greninja that you could have used as an example.
>>340322886
I'm a retard for giving a shit about graphics? Graphics aren't the most important thing, obviously, but they're still a fucking factor. You have to look at them the whole time you play so it's best that they don't look terrible. There are people that honestly don't think graphics are a factor at all in determining a game's value? I didn't even realize that people like you existed. I'm fucking baffled.
>>340323218
Counter breakers are so fucking exciting
>>340323410
why
>>340308650
Nintendo is funding smash 4 and melee at ceo
>>340323362
>Why would you give a shit about modern nintendo?
And here we have the true root of why Meleefags refuse to move on.
"Nintendo doesn't care about just me anymore QQ."
>>340323518
too old
>>340323582
would make sense but it has no worthy successor and the tourney numbers are only getting bigger
>>340323526
>Is funding
citation needed, assclown
>>340322178
going from sf2 to sf3 was like going from 3s to shaq fu, but street fighter players still did it because they aren't autistic manchildren
>>340323009
The graphics are obviously worse in the 3ds version, but for a handheld they're decent. They're still better than melee, which is my point. Like I said, I don't think graphics are super important but they're still a factor. They don't need to be superb and perfect for me but they need to not look incredibly dated unless we're talking, like, a super nintendo game where it has value for being nostalgic to me. Melee isn't old enough to make me feel nostalgic, but is old enough to feel really stale and dated.
>>340323126
If anything I'm saying is wrong I apologize. I haven't played project-m much, I play smash 4. I just meant if I was so into melee I couldn't let it go I'd at least try to move on a little fucking bit. It's just sad. It reminds me of those weirdos that when they have a stillborn baby they keep it and dress it up and shit and pretend it's alive. That's a perfect metaphor for melee fans.
>>340323526
>"""funding"""
They throw out about 2 or 3 tweets and run splatoon ads on the main stream. There's no pot bonus whatsoever
>>340304904
>not even a fighting game
The FGC will evolve without you I guess. Just because you don't like a game doesn't mean it's not a fighting game.
>>340323574
>actually defending Nintendo's games the past 10 years
holy fuck, they really do exist
take the 60 bucks you're going to spend on the next series they ruin and buy a helium tank and mask
>>340323414
In a competitive game, graphics sit at the bottom.
As long as the graphics are crisp (not detailed or advanced) which allows the player for quick movement recognition for on-the-frame reaction, then it's all good.
Gameplay is 1000 times more important than graphics will ever be.
>>340323574
>Nintendo cares about the customer
I don't understand your logic. They're a business, what does it mean to "care for a customer"? Don't you mean CATERING to me?
Sure if they made a game as good as melee I'd buy it. I tried Smash4 and I didn't like it, I gave the game a chance hoping that patches would fix that shitty mess but alas it amounted to nothing.
Am I obliged to suck Nintendo's cock? Why?
I'll never understand the melee hate
Sakurai says it was designed to be the deepest gameplay wise of every Smash game so why ya'll get so fucking butthurt over people still playing it?
>>340322950
It has a shit rep because of its bullshit rock/paper/scissors combo breaker mechanics.
>>340323362
>Nintendo hasnt made a good game since the early wii days.
I'd try to refute this but you'll just be in full denial
>>340323526
>funding
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
It was the same shit last year. They help out with setups for the smash 4 event, then tell the melee crowd to fuck off and get their own shit while running ads on both streams without providing a single dollar for either game's pot.
Such nice funding you got there.
>>340303660
feels good to be an intellectual melee player and not a LTG street fighter player :^)
>>340323370
>5 is a lot better than 4, at least in terms of mechanics
lolno
>>340324068
I still call myself a Nintendo fan. I still play most of their newer games, but I'd like to hear what these good games are.
FE went to shit with awakening.
Paper Mario is dead. Jesus Christ that new game.
Fzero is dead.
Star Fox has been garbage since Assault/Command.
Main console Mario games have been bad since Galaxy 1.
Zelda hasn't been decent since TP, which was already mediocre.
What good games are you talking about?
>>340303660
and Pokken will still get no support or DLC
has there been a balance update since they fixed Nigga2s infinite?
>>340322886
>-No low, high, crossup, overheads. Blocking is universal
>-single button attacks for all specials
>-auto combos
>-everybody moves 20 times slower
>-all attacks have 10 times the recovery frames
>-babyfied neutral
>-no blockstrings whatsoever
>-you can just block all day
None of that applies to Smash 4
>>340324296
Oh yeah, forgot to mention metroid.
Poor Metroid.
And how they shat the bed with Animal Crossing, Jesus Christ.
And all the amiibo shit.
I mean seriously?
>>340324041
>starting a combo is a slam dunk
What?
The idea is that you do your combos in a way which are hard to predict or recognise and use manuals to fuck the timing so they're harder to break. You can also try to condition people to always breaking or trying to break at certain times so you can counter break.
>>340323953
I completely agree with the first part of your post actually. I was just saying graphics are a factor, though not the most important one. As long as the graphics aren't total shit and I can look at them for an extended period of time without wanting to throw up I'm fine and if the graphics are legitimately great then that is a bonus. I just can't even look at melee's graphics. Like I said, it's just old enough to be really stale and ugly looking but not old enough to make me nostalgic. Just pure shit.
>>340324037
Because it is almost fifteen fucking years old.
>>340324296
see? Massive waste of time
>>340303856
>Focus attacks in general
>Crouch tech
>Vortexes galore
>SRK FADC backwards to saftey
>Jab Jab Jab Jab
>Healing
>Ultra combos literally rewarding players for losing
Can't see how anyone would like SFIV over SFV unless they're a shitter.
>>340324595
Accurate
>>340311397
They're both capped at 256 entries.
>>340323362
Is advaced techniques a new word for glitches and exploits? Do these glitches actually fucking do anything of significance or are they bullshit smash players say are cool but are ultimately usless, kinda like all those cool looking combos nobody uses because they are stupidly unviable in other fighting games?
>>340322909
>western FGC
oh the people i hate the most from almost all gaming cultures
>>340324425
>he thinks wheel simulator 2k15 is that deep
>>340324429
> You don't understand how much STRATEGY there is to playing rock-paper-scissors. You can play paper a few times in a row to condition your opponent to play scissors and then BAM! You play rock and you win!
It's dumb. If you get a clean hit out of neutral, you should be able to get a combo. The strategy comes from deciding how much meter to use, whether to optimise damage or go for a reset, etc.. A single burst per round is fine but the combo breaker mechanic is just stupid.
>>340324712
Same happened with 3S to SF4
But the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people CvS2 was a good game
>>340323362
>I'll let you know that even fucking Bowser is still getting new advanced techniques, with 2 new advanced techniques discovered a couple months back.
And yet every character that isn't Fox or Falco is still useless
Call me when Kirby takes a major due to some new "advanced tech"
>>340324817
I disagree entirely but that's fine, you don't have to play it.
>>340324712
>SRK FADC backwards to saftey
???
>>340324037
It's mostly just bait posts or people with only muh age retort
>>340324747
Oh then it makes sense. Still weird seeing Pokken get those numbers and i'm surprised to see Tekken cap out even tho its not out on consoles.
>>340324770
Then stop chiming in you dumb faggot.
Tekken 7 is a free tourney and Pokken still hit cap first. Tekken team on suicide watch until 2017
>comcast is still throttling the ever loving fuck out of my upload speeds so I can't netplay or do anything else and I just have to shitpost about melee on v
this is a special sort of hell
>>340325280
Hush, it's not even FR
>>340324817
You're crazy if you think it's like RPS.
Maybe if RPS was me throwing rock paper or scissors at you however I wanted and if you didn't throw the same one at the same time before I decided to stop all you did was stop me from doing it.
You still take damage before the combo is ended you know
>>340324595
>still posting the old version
>>340324712
>Focus attacks in general
A good mechanic, far better than shit like no chip death and 8 frames of input delay
>Crouch tech
Crouch tech is bait able and punishable, you being shit at the game does not make it bad
>Vortexes galore
SFV has far more vortexes and they are even harder to deal with thanks to 8 frames of input delay
>SRK FADC backwards to saftey
SRK FADC back is not safe
>Jab Jab Jab Jab
Jab Fighter V
>Healing
You dont even have an argument
>Ultra combos literally rewarding players for losing
What is V Trigger, V Reversal, No chip death, Gaining super meter for taking damage.
The only shitter here is you.
>>340325342
>he hasn't yelled at comcast and said I might as well switch to DSL with these upload speeds
every time it works
>>340324993
Oh great he's been summoned
Yes some ultras can punish if you have it and react quick enough, yes a tiny amount of normals can. It is still a very safe option
>>340325460
>FoD
love the music, hate the stage
>>340325342
want to play garou on fightcade?
>>340325530
>Proof Its literally not safe
>B-B-BUT ITS STILL A SAFE OPTION
>literally no chance of KI on ps4 because arbiter and raam
>>340325370
Neither is EVO. Harada has a loaded gun beside his bed and everyday he thinks about pulling the trigger when a side Pokemon project is destroying the series he worked on for more than 15 years
>>340304142
And Meleefags are finally starting to accept that their game is shit. Only took them a decade to realize it.
>>340325519
I'm about to, I'm getting less than a percent of the speeds I'm supposed to and its fucking bullshit. The last speed test I ran didn't even finish
>>340310874
>a fighting game with only one character
Now I've heard everything
>>340325842
FR is at evo and not even the final version of FR.
>>340310874
Nope
>>340325996
>the fox wins everything meme
He's been having it real rough, only 2 majors this year have been taken by Fox.
>>340325842
Harada loves Pokemon though.
>>340323951
>Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
>Twilight Princess
>Super Paper Mario
>Metroid Prime 3
>Pokemon Platinum
>Mario Galaxy
>Brawl
>Super Star Ultra
>M&L: BIS
>DKCR
>Pokemon HG/SS
>Mario Galaxy 2
>Fortune Street
>Mario Kart 7
>Nintendogs + Cats
>3D Land
>Kid Icarus: Uprising
>Pokemon Black 2 and White 2
>Rhythm Heaven Fever
>Animal Crossing New Leaf
>Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon
>NES Remix
>Super Mystery Dungeon
>Pokemon X and Y
>A Link between Worlds
>Wonderful 101
>Bayonetta 2
>Bravely Default
>Captain Toad
>DKCR: TF
>Hyrule Warriors
>Triple Deluxe
>Smash 4
>Rainbow Curse
>Mario Maker
>Splatoon
>Robobot
>Paper Jam
>Pokken
And those are just the games that I personally liked from the past ten years. Mother 3 and Xenoblade also have a huge following but I just don't care for them.
Fuck off Melee autist
>>340325752
And because the whole IP is owned by MS.
>>340303660
>Fighting games are being outclassed by a "fighting" game
>mfw fighting fags right now
FUCKING
REKT
>>340326020
>This years EVO has 3 games that aren't even fighting games.
Where did it all go wrong?
>>340326096
Legit
>>340326174
Proof SFV is a colossal failure
>>340326092
Because the game is dying so the scrubs pick up the scraps.
>>340326071
>no counterhits, hit stun
huh clearly this dumbass hasn't played it then?
>>340324595
Oh man this troll image again.
>Top
SF3, Vsav, Garou, Marvel 2, and Ultra need to move down to High.
Alpha 3 and Bloody Roar 3 need to move down to mid.
Super Turbo can stay.
>High Tier
Dark Ressurection, Alpha 2, and XXAC need to move to Top.
Night Warriors, JoJo, and SCV need to move to Mid.
Bloody Roar 2 needs to move to low.
>Mid Tier
VF2, VF4, and VF5FS all need to move to top.
SF5 needs to move to high.
SFxT, Fighting Vipers, DOA 5, EX2, Project Justice, and MKX all need to move to low
Both Bloody Roar games need to move to Trash.
>Low Tier
Tekken 3 needs to move to High.
Last Blade 2 needs to move to Mid
Guilty Gear Isuka, Capcom Fighting Evolution, Bloody Roar 4, and DOA4 needs to move to Trash.
>Trash
Soulcalibur 3 and Budokai 3 need to move to Low.
>>340318465
And?
>>340326179
Eh, Pokken is a fighting game. But i doubt it will last.
>>340326335
Nah, other top tiers just picked up the slack and increased their punish game by utilizing the new technology discovered.
Melee attendance, events, venues, streams, etc, just get bigger and bigger with every new major.
I don't know, man. Why do you want melee to die so bad?
>>340326384
He's right though
inb4 retarded nintoddlers think counter hits mean counter attack moves
>>340326454
>F-FUCK WESTERN GAMES ;-;
kek
>>340326454
I prefer this.
>>340316029
says the autists that literally begged the fgc to take them in
or are you too new to know that?
>>340326503
>want
?
The numbers speak for themselves. Melee is bleeding talent. "Want" doesn't enter into it.
>>340326532
Nope, the game does have Counter hits.
If you hit somebody in the middle of an attack you deal more knockback. If you hit somebody in the middle of charging an attack you deal more damage AND Knockback.
Literally a counterhit, not a counter attack.
Also to say smash has no hitstun? That guy in that post is literally retarded.
>>340325460
lol xD good one anon melee is the best amirite gaiz? still perfect after all these years
>>340326454
This whole post is bait
This guy slaps your gf's ass
what do you do?
>>340326492
Guaranteed Pokken will live longer than T7 or KoF14. Two fraud scenes who talk all day but don't show up
>>340326454
>VF2, VF4, and VF5FS all need to move to top.
MY FUCKING SIDES!!!!
>>340326071
>no blocking
What the fuck is this shit? This is the dumbest post I've ever seen, and I've seen some doozies. Why the fuck would someone even screenshot this?
>>340326667
What numbers, dear friend?
The number of increasing participants?
The number of increasing pot bonuses?
The number of increasing weekly tournaments?
The number of increasing bigger venues?
The number of higher level players becoming sponsored?
The number of increasing Stream viewers?
The way the community just keeps getting bigger by the day?
What numbers might these be, friend? I'm confused. I thought bleeding meant diminishing numbers.
>>340326113
This guy wins. If anyone can tell me they've played every game on this list and hated every single one they're fucking lying.
>>340326828
So Pokemon fans will start playing Pokken? Id figure they would be Nintendo fans and stick to the latest smash game.
>>340326993
Because retards that haven't touched or watched smash will parrot it as fact
>>340326778
>Devil Jin
Why is this fucking backstreet boy even in Tekken 7?
>>340327015
its more that if it is a major you are not even going to place because it is going to be the top five dudes that are going to take the tourney.
Doto player here
>2000 people
>For the entire competitive scene of pretty much every active game in the genre
>two thousand people
I'm not shit talking your games, cos I know they take skillexcept smashbut what the fuck why are your numbers so low.
>>340327225
Clearly. Thanks for answering, this must be what's going on. Can you imagine smash without being able to block? How the fuck would it even work?
>>340327301
Just like with every fighting game in existence?
Why play any game then?
>>340326454
>Bloody Roar 3 need to move down to mid.
>Dark Ressurection, Alpha 2, and XXAC need to move to Top.
>VF2, VF4, and VF5FS all need to move to top.
SF5 needs to move to high.
>Tekken 3 needs to move to High.
>Soulcalibur 3 and Budokai 3 need to move to Low.
Someone ACTUALLY thinks like this and is not baiting or trolling.
>>340326778
shaheen orbital kick into mid
>>340327301
You're right can't wait till the finals of SFV at Evo between RandomNip#136 and RandomGook#212 and I also look forward to hearing from their translator after the win
>>340327286
Because he is top teir
Because he is Jin with the Kazama move set
Because he is Jin
I don't play any of these games. Except a little bit of SF4 when that was relevant.
Yet I still tune it to watch smash at most big tournies because it's just so much more fun to watch than other games. Especially 3d games like tekken and soul calibur.
fucking love my boy leffen
>>340324925
You're so fucking right.
I dunno how this happened, but somebody back in the day convinced every 09er that CvS2 is a competant competitive title. It's pretty much SFxT quality. Same with Alpha 3.
It's sorta like the "Third Strike is the best fighting game of all time" meme, except that Third Strike is a good game if you ignore the hype. CvS2 and Alpha 3 are worse than Vanilla SF4.
>>340325508
>Focus Attacks
>Good
That immidiately makes your opinion not worth considering, but I'll humor you.
>Crouch tech
Just because you can play around it, doesn't make it not shit. The only reason it was tolerated in 3S is because everything is a fucking option select in that game. In SF4, it serves no purpose than to slow the game down.
>SFV has Vortexes
Are you confusing vortexes and Oki? Because there's no safe mixups into hard knockdown in SFV like there is in SFIV. You have to either sacrifice the knockdown pressure, or risk being punished in SFV.
>SRK FADC back isn't safe
It is for the majority of the roster. A certain few can punish it, but the timing on it is rough, and it's often situational.
>Jab fighter V
Jabs were nerfed more than anything in SFV. It's more like C.MP Fighter V tbqh.
>V-Trigger, V-Reversal, No chip death, Gaining super for taking damage.
And yet, none of these mechanics are as strong as being able to hit confirm into a 45% combo every single round.
>>340327380
>smash
>block
Are smashbabies really this clueless?
>>340326993
By "blocking" they mean the mind game part of it, not that you can't block attacks.
>>340327323
Going through all the people takes a lot of time .Since it's held at Las Vegas the expenses would skyrocket for the longer people stay.
>>340327463
>He likes Bloody Roar
Opinion discarded.
Yiff in hell, furfag.
>>340323758
So autistic manchildren refuse to play shitty games? Him, I think I'd rather do that, honestly. I get that these guys have sponsors that make them play games that are popular, but games aren't a fucking job for me and I'm shit at most games anyway, which is why I'm still playing SFZero and KoF 98 on Fightcade.
>>340327323
Fighting games actually take skill, so it scares the moba babies
>>340327569
Jin is a faggot nowadays and I hate that we have two of him while Purple Devil is just a Transformation.
DJ used to look pretty good when he started out in 5 but now he just looks like a pussy.
>>340327142
if you can't recognize a quality drop in most of Nintendo's IPs then honestly I don't know what to say. It's not about hating them, its about the fact that a good portion of Nintendo's shit used to be top of the line and now it's mediocre. I have a GBC, GBA, DS, N64, GC, and Wii. Sell me on a WiiU my man.
>>340326542
He's right though.
Western Fighting Games are all shit, with the exceptions of Killer Instinct, Weaponlord, and HD Remix.
Prove me wrong.
Protip:You can't.
>>340328074
Kazuya and D.Kazuya are pretty much the same with little differences in move sets but D.Kazuya has awesome properties as an upgrade.
Jin and D.Jin have very different movesets so they have to have their own slots. I can play Jin okay but suck ass with D.Jin.
>>340327596
>In SF4, it serves no purpose than to slow the game down.
You are only showing how little you know about the game, how you dont understand it and how bad you are
>Are you confusing vortexes and Oki? Because there's no safe mixups into hard knockdown in SFV like there is in SFIV. You have to either sacrifice the knockdown pressure, or risk being punished in SFV.
Are you seriously trying to imply SFV has no hard knockdowns, or that you can only vortex of hard knockdowns, or that vortex in SF4 has no risk? oh and "vortex" is literally what 09ers call Oki
>Jabs were nerfed more than anything in SFV
LOL, the game is literally Mash Jab Fighter V to the point everyones best AA is fucking jab
>And yet, none of these mechanics are as strong as being able to hit confirm into a 45% combo every single round.
Cammy, Guile, Ryu, Necalli, Karin, Nash can all hit confirm into over 50% with V trigger
>>340327323
How exactly do moba tournaments work anyway? You can't house and supply set ups for a stupid amount of players, is it only invitational?
Plus EVO is a lot bigger than CEO, not moba numbers but SFV has 4000+ and smash games are nearing that as well
>>340324296
splatoon
>>340327809
>furfag.
You're thinking of tekken
>>340328472
Ok, I tried Splatoon and I liked it.
But the lack of maps and modes did hurt it for me in the long run.
>>340328169
>its not as good as their swansong so it has absolutely no value worth playing and is mediocre.
Why you'd move past SNES then? Besides Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime, most of Ninty's best is on SNES.
>>340328463
It's invitational yeah, there's a lot of pre-planning. It's basically a planned show, the only variable being the games themselves.
I had no idea a fighting game tournament was literally a "turn up and anyone can enter". Thats kinda neat. I guess the biggest difference between mobas and fighters other than the teamwork required is the disparity between good players and shit ones. Other than the pros and pub stars, most players are the equivalent of button mashers.
>>340322212
>the melee community does not depend on their parent company for tournaments.
lmao yet they depend on something like evo to put themselves out there more and whine when part of them isn't on sunday
>>340327608
What the fuck are you going on about? There is a block button. It allows you to block attacks. Are you just trying to bait me or something? Because you're not making me mad, you're just making yourself look like an idiot.
>>340327691
Then why don't they say "mind games involving blocking?" Because Smash obviously HAS blocking. Also, you can use it to bait attacks and there is a mindgame aspect to it.
>>340328169
There is a quality drop in the games. Where did I say there wasn't? What they've done to Paper Mario is fucking criminal. I also hate how they simplified the non-battle aspects of Pokemon. Now people literally make roadblocks in routes and tell you "beat the gym leader and you can pass" instead of you needing a new HM or some shit. Route 1 in x and y, which leads between what is supposed to be two towns, mind you, is like 10 feet long with nothing in it, no grass or anything. I don't agree with everything Nintendo does and never said I did. I do like Smash 4 though. I do think Melee is very dated and old, but not yet nostalgic. You should look up what it means to build a strawman and stop doing it in your debates, my man.
>>340328841
>depend on EVO
No.
We already have like 5 supermajors. Apex, CEO, DESU, Genesis, etc. Smash is still at EVO because Mr.Wizard likes the money.
>>340327809
>He doesn't like Bloody Roar
Opinion discarded.
Casual be gone.
>>340328653
Also, I agree with this awesome fella here. The SNES was Nintendo at their best. So you shouldn't be playing Melee either, since it's not as good as Nintendo was in the SNES days.
>>340328689
>It's invitational yeah
Are they only like this? How exactly do you get notable enough to be invited?
>I had no idea a fighting game tournament was literally a "turn up and anyone can enter"
Well events do sometimes have caps, plus not everyone has the money to get to every event even when sponsored. It's very poverty
But we did have SFV Crash for the last few weeks which was an invitational team event, it was on korean tv so the format was a bit more proper like mobas etc
>>340328596
Everyone likes King, you just can't hate him
>>340328880
>trashbros has blocking
Is this a new meme?
>>340328457
>Ad hominim
You're just stupid. I understand now.
>Oki and Vortexes are the same thing
Except they're not. Shut the fuck up unless you know what the hell you're talking about. Vortexes are safe oki mixups. Nobody except faggots have problems with oki. Vortexes are easy mode oki with low risk and high reward.
>Everyones best AA is jab
That's because AAs suck, not because jabs are good. In SFIV a huge portion of the roster can c.lp c.lp hit confirm into big damage.
>50% with V Trigger
And meter. That they have to save up for.
In the meantime, enjoy getting hit by c.lp c.lp c.lp xx Buffolo Head, Violent Buffolo everyround.
>>340328457
Its confirmed. You have no idea what the difference between a vortex and okizeme is.
That's okay. You fought hard.
>>340329072
>>340329101
Can someone just explain to me what they mean when they say smashbros doesn't have blocking? Stop implying I'm trolling and tell me what the fuck you're talking about. Until someone can do that, I can only assume you're just trying to bait me.
>>340303660
esports jews wanting smash autismbucks
>>340322178
>>340322413
i know that people have complaints about SFV, and some of them are valid.
my point is that the changes that SFV did to street fighter are nowhere near the amounts of retardation that brawl brought to smash.
you can dislike the v-system or the crush counter mechanic, and you can criticize the general game balance, but none of this comes even close to the moronic bullshit that was the tripping in brawl.
>>340329162
09er detected
>Pokken 4th on both big tournaments
I'm kinda surprised. Why can't Nintendo just drop Tr4sh for it instead?
>>340329037
>Are they only like this? How exactly do you get notable enough to be invited?
Online tournaments basically. There are hundreds of third party tournaments which bring in viewers through betting (you bet hats on games, basically). Eventually getting recognised through these you move up to the more prestigious online tournaments and then onto LANs. There's also wildcards teams can register for.
It's pretty similar to sports really, the big tournaments are for existing teams and you have tons of smaller touranments for entertainment/recognition.
>Well events do sometimes have caps, plus not everyone has the money to get to every event even when sponsored. It's very poverty
I feel bad for fighters. I fucking suck at them (but I love the aesthetics and universes of Blazblue/GG) so I can't really watch them, but when I see tournaments it literally looks like it's in some dudes basement or something. I don't know how they don't have more money/sponsors. They're not even scratching the tip compared to MOBAs. I guess its the entry level skill required to even play the game? But even then mobas have hundreds (DOTA has thousands) of hours to understand the mechanics.
>>340326113
You must be underage if you like playing with all those toys.
>>340328880
>Then why don't they say "mind games involving blocking?" Because Smash obviously HAS blocking.
It's the same as the "fighting game" argument, isn't it? I guess anyone who disagrees that smash is a fighter would also say that it doesn't have blocking.
>>340329031
>>340328653
Fine fine, I get it, I have a subjective opinion and I must be at fault for thinking the new Paper Mario games aren't magical and that the lack of a true Metroid game isn't a godsend. New Star Fox looked pretty good eh? How much money do I need to give to Ninty until I'm forgiven? And what are these new 10/10 masterpiece games that people will still be playing 20 years from now a la SMW2?
>>340329131
>Gets BTFO
>a-a-ad h-hominim
>Except they're not. Shut the fuck up unless you know what the hell you're talking about. Vortexes are safe oki mixups. Nobody except faggots have problems with oki. Vortexes are easy mode oki with low risk and high reward.
Once again you are proving how little you know about fighting games and how you just parrot what you read on 4chan.
>That's because AAs suck, not because jabs are good. In SFIV a huge portion of the roster can c.lp c.lp hit confirm into big damage.
No its because jabs have retarded hitboxes while every other attack in the game has extremely shitty hitboxes with no range
>And meter. That they have to save up for.
Just like SF4
>c.lp c.lp c.lp xx Buffolo Head, Violent Buffolo
Deals next to no damage and is mostly used for corner carry
Try again.
>>340322847
>Asking about Greninja
He's IKU ZE!!!!! Or however the fuck that anime song goes.
