>/v/ says new DOOM is shit
>it's fucking incredible
Why is /v/ always wrong?
>>340285028
It was too hard for them.
>it's fucking incredible
>>340285464
Believable honestly, nightmare mode is kicking my ass
It looks pretty good.
No mods and custom maps though.
Fuck that.
>inb4 brining up that shitty excuse for custom content that is snapmap
Because from all the evidence it WAS shit at one point
It was dirt brown and bloom, slow as fuck, and we saw the multiplayer first which is mediocre at best and dead on PC already.
It looked pretty bad, and then the singleplayer turned out good.
>>340285028
>DOOM
>good
Kys
>>340286046
Honestly, whoever was in charge of the Marketing for DOOM needs to be fired for all the lost potential sales and doing such a shit job.
>>340286069
edgy
>>340286069
kisses to you too
>>340286139
Pretty much this
I am a huge fan of Doom 1 and 2 and held off on buying DOOM4 because it looked like shit. I eventually got really bored and caved and decided to check it out, and honestly it's probably one of the most fun games I've played in a while. I don't think I've seen more of a failure in the industry than new doom's marketing team.
>incredible
Nah. It's pretty good though
>>340285028
b-but /v/ told me it's the GOAT fps.
are you trying to tell me there are different people with varying opinions on this board?
>>340286998
They're only saying that after they got to play it. All pre release threads were a bunch of idiots complaining about inane shit like walk speed and how bad the game that they didn't even play was.
>>340286767
It's really incredible, seriously, the people in that marketing team all deserve to be fired and never allowed to market anything again
>>340287149
That is the /v/ basic stance though...you should always make up your own mind watch some gameplay (by competent people) and so on.
>>340285028
for $2 it was great, but not 60€ full price great
>>340286046
>>340286139
>>340287306
These quotes are all you need to know why people on /v/ thought the game would be shit.
>>340285028
/v/ is made of different people with different opinions, you fucking retard.
But this and DaS 3 really showed how much sterile contriarianism is infesting this board, I will give you that.
>>340285028
Singleplayer is a really good, multiplayer is bland and SnapMap is shit (from what I´ve seen so far)
>>340286139
>don't show any singleplayer footage until about a month before the game's release
>no official PC footage
Yeah, whoever was in charge either know jack shit about Doom or he just had no choice, in which case I feel sorry for him.
>>340285028
were not /pol/ after all.
we can be wrong.
The marketing for this game was absolutely dogshit. I was convinced it would be shit from the first time I saw it.
It took a mate to show me a singleplayer level to convince me I should pick it up
>>340288750
THIS
The nVidia showcase sold it for me, and it was just like 15 seconds of gameplay
I was truly convinced it was dogshit because the MP beta went horribly wrong and it's still the worst part of an otherwise incredible game
Why would you try to sell the worst part of the game as the main feature WITH a season pass? Stupidity at its finest.
>>340288892
The sad part about the multi is that with a few tweaks it could be GOAT. I hope to god they do some anti cheat on PC and actually do some balancing of the weapons
>>340288892
>and it was just like 15 seconds of gameplay
It was a few minutes, but still, way better than the shit they showed prior.
>>340285028
>Why is /v/ always wrong?
This is a board that actively shitpost the new Yooka Laylee trailer while promoting Overwatch. /v/ is casual normie gaf scum now.
>>340289623
>not liking both
>mfw ultra-nightmare
>>340289816
>liking casualwatch
Any game that markets itself as a competitive online title and has auto aim as standard is a joke.
>>340285028
>listening to /v/'s criticism
it's like you want to blindly listen to people
>>340290045
Why would you play a shooter on console?
>>340285028
>liking pinata simulator
>>340290247
Because that's where the majority of the playerbase is? I agree with you completely but lets not sit here and pretend the PC playerbase is relevant.
>>340285028
ok heres how to read /v/
when they say a game is shit because its shit, that means its ok or good
when they say a game is shit with a lot of different arguments of why/how/, then its shit, like overwatch
It was the Vulkan demo footage that sold me the game. That was about few days before release. Before that everything they showed looked shit.
>>340290727
90% of those reasons are stupid shit that have no effect on the actual game.
Don't read /v/, make your own decisions.
>>340290647
>Blizzard game
>Let's not pretend the PC playerbase is relevant
>>340291027
Why are you even debating this? the figures are way, way in favour of consolefaggots and nine times out of ten are in general for any vidya. I'm sorry that you invested in a casual piece of shit game on the wrong system but sitting there and believing the opposite of what's going on is beyond dumb.
>>340289859
I'm going to save scum through it on ps4 and there's nothing you can do to stop me. You only get to save after each mission, but still backing it up onto a USB so death only means 30 minutes or so progress lost is doable.
Then I'll upload it to YouTube and pretend to be cool.
>>340290727
nice try kiddo
>Always had it in amazon wishlist
>€ 30
>Forgot about it
>Hear good things about it
>Cool user creations
>Webums on /v/
>Urge to buy rising
>>>__Where can I get it?__<<<
>Remember Amazon list, new price € 50
Fuck. Cheap offer where?
>
>>340285028
Only retards on /v/ think its shit contrarians who probably didn't even really play 1 or 2. I love it honestly and i can see why some people would only think its alright. But bad? Fuck no its polished as fuck and has tons of content. Even the MP /v/ claims is shit is actually pretty above average as far as modern shooters go i play it more often then Overwatch because it has a higher individual skill ceiling and feels like Halo on crack.
Nevermind it's back to € 35 now. Wish me luck.
>>340291769
>mfw encountered a clan the other day that absolutely steamrolled my team and felt like I was going up against Quake players who shot with pinpoint accuracy
>>340291418
Isn't there some kind of server-side component? with all those helmets in floor and all.
Regardless, where's thefunin doing that, there's not even an achievement/trophy for UNM run.
>>340292102
>mfw 4.0 kd and win almost every TDM game
>Run into another real player with obvious shooter roots
>It feels like we're hunting each other specifically all game and its tense as fuck to see each other.
I love it. Everyone else is basically just fodder in most matches when this happens. Me and him at the top of both of our teams.
>>340292927
It was crazy shit man, they moved with such perfection, it was like a one two shot, pepper me with plasma and then finish me with a super shotty
its a game people should rent for the singleplayer
No one's saying it's shit dude
/v/ loves it
>>340293060
Don't forget when a good player is running away they always cover themselves with a grenade they bounce off the corner/ground so they will turn around and gib you if they hear that hit.
Let alone a full team? Shit son i feel bad for you when rune/power weapons spawned map control too must've been painful.
Is Doom and Deus Ex HR the only times /v/ have been pleasantly surprised by a game everyone thought would be shit?
>>340293534
Funny you should mention that. The opinion on Human Revolution shifted after the press beta was leaked and we all played it, that's when it was apparent that they were actually making an honest to god modern Deus Ex rather than going further down the path of Invisible War or just leveraging the name. Doom on the other hand had an awful multiplayer beta that was highly publicised and did nothing to sell the actuak merits of the game.
>>340285028
fucking SJWs ruined DOOD. Gay romance now? Wow. They even put both of the dood guys kissing on it.
>>340287730
>/v/ is made of different people with different opinions, you fucking retard.
DAE LE FUNNY MAYMAY EVERYONE INDIVIDUAL MUHHHHHHHHH
>What is general consensus
>be huge doom fan
>don't like brutal doom
>expect doom 4 to be shit
>play the beta
>now i know it's really gonna be shit
>buy game anyway
>start up campaign mode
>get BTFO. id is back baby
>think too myself "man, if I, a doom veteran, like this game, /v/ has to like this game!"
it's like I forgot that the majority of /v/ has to have to have a stereotypical opinion about the new one as if they had played the originals. which the majority haven't.
>>340285028
Reminder that /v/'s demographic consists of three groups.
Poor people, kids and people who are too old.
The poor people will shit on games that are not on their platform because they are too poor to buy them. (usually pirate heavy platforms like PC)
The kids are young and contrarian, they don't know what is a good video game and will fight against popular games to seem cool on /v/ with their inferiority complex.
The people who are too old on this board are usually NEET and will act elitist and talk about how games used to be on old platforms and how tired they are and how new games are shit nowadays. Yet they seem to complain nonstop in every new game on how the games industry is dead nowadays.
Once you take this demographic in mind, you have a general idea on what kind of games will be popular amongst these three groups and which games that are good will be hated in order for the three groups to fit in and feel better.
>>340297484
I have to agree because the exact same thing happened to me with 100% accuracy, but
>be huge doom fan
>man, if I, a doom veteran, like this game, /v/ has to like this game!
Why is everyone suddenly throwing shit like this around every fucking chance as if it's some kind of certification badge?
Plenty of people played Doom back in the day and loved it up until now, but everyone talks now as if they're the only ones remaining or some shit, which really isn't the case.
Also
>id is back baby
Didn't mostly everyone leave a long time ago.
I found the game was really good with such simple mechanics of "Run in and fuck these demons up with your shotgun" really fun and exciting to play after years of bland FPS.
Only thing I'm wondering is why it took so long to get something like this and hope that other FPS move back to making Doom clones instead of just wasting their time trying to compete with COD.
>>340286046
>Dead on PC already
>Can find matches within second of searching
?
Doom purists suddenly became the biggest autists with the release of this game.
I swear there is not a single video review or lets play that conveys the lethality, actual speed and chaos of the combat.
Marketing was absolutely abysmal, showing off cinematic glory kills and chainsaw kills, without even showing how and why they work so well in the actual game, leaving it looking like just your average shit idea from people out of touch with the genre.
>>340285028
You're the one who's wrong my friend, because while it's a pretty good game, it's also pretty far from being "incredible".
>>340301361
It's literally flawless
>>340285028
I'm sorry you have such shit taste, OP.
>>340286046
Not really? I was in a lot of the threads since the reveals and a lot of people were straight up misinformed and shitposting.
>>340285028
>the hivemind HAS to be infallible
>>340285028
>Denuvo people realize that their shit isn't increasing sales
>"uh oh better shill these games at full force before the dumb-ass publishers notice it"
There's a fairly vocal contingent on /v/ that likes to hate on Doom because they're children with no money and they're mad they can't pirate it.
>>340285028
>Think OP is jew and a faggot
>actually is
Why nothing ever changes? Shill gtfo
>>340285879
>shilling a month after release
>when there was 0 shilling on weeks previous and after release
Are you funning me, son?
Pretty sure all the hate was on the MP, single player is great.
>>340287962
Why would you hire someone to do marketing, then not give them a choice about how to market it?
>>340302129
>being proud of spending money
Good goy
>>340285028
It was decent, but the map design was generically linear.
>>340304310
No more linear than the originals.
The armor redesign is amazing
>>340304451
Multiple floors overlapping in a automap doesn't really tell me its nonlinear.
>>340304946
>Doom1 / 2 design but in true 3D
Again, it's no more linear than the originals.
>>340305158
Play something like E2M2 or E2M7 again.
>>340305158
If true 3D means removing multiple pathways and looping layouts, and instead have different floors that when overlapped, make the map look like it has those, then I guess....
>>340304451
If you can discern the different layers, the linearity becomes a lot more apparent.
I can't stop making Snapmaps.
Even though no one is playing them.
>>340285028
because all of the faggots bashing it are bitter shitposters bandwagoning as they did not even play the game at all.
Thoses are probably the same faggots enjoying overwatch even though it is a complete turd.
neo/v/ is fucking real but at least Doom was great.
>>340306741
I liked it, but I can't stand that people insist that its on-par with the classics. It was more of a Painkiller clone.
>>340291608
g2a
>>340306987
Having a Painkiller game without the exposition that goes on forever is bad how?
>>340306987
>fast gameplay
>great and varied level design
>minimalistic and non intrusive HUD
>no reload
>great and interesting variety or weapons and upgrade
>almost no cutscene
>no half assed game designs
it's as good as it gets really.
>>340306720
Post them, I'll play them. I need to wrap up the nightmare level Snap Puzzles.
The last Hard one was bullshit. Would've helped if I had played more of the multiplayer and knew about incapacitated status vs. being dead.
>>340285028
>Why is /v/ always wrong?
>>340308987
8JDB2WL2 "Overtaken Supply Depot"
29ZW58TD "Overtaken Maintenance Facility"
KLTRLRWQ "Overtaken UAC Headquarters"
>>340309137
I already played the the first two when you first posted them in another thread. Pretty good.
It's nice when people put thought into them and don't just throw in a bunch of demons in generic looking room arrangements.
>>340291418
If you try to do that the next time you load your save the game will lower your health drastically until you die. You can't savescum Ultra-Nightmare.
>>340285028
>/v/ says new DOOM is shit
>it's fucking incredible
It's neither, really. Definitely above average though.
>>340309393
The third one is bigger with less props. Has a boss fight about mid-way.
Forced myself to do some shit I didn't do on the previous ones.
I'm not sure if I like it more or less than the previous ones though.
Added options for three lives or infinite lives.
>>340285987
Snap map is a neat idea, but yes, they really need to release proper mod tools.
And it's weird they don't since Bethesda has a means of getting mods onto consoles now.
>>340288892
Yeh they really showed off all the worst parts of the game and none of the best. They even played the E3 demo super slow... making the campaign look much less fun than it actually was.
A Bethesda livestream though showed off a later level and did look very fun.
>>340309730
They probably want to integrate as much as they can into SnapMap. I just want to be able to place stairs and other objects where I want and maybe even adjust the shape of a room. And verticality.
I want to be able to make Argent Tower style stuff.
>>340310296
Fuck that, I want to be able to make WADs.
>>340311187
There's gonna be classic assets available for use in SnapMap eventually. Hell assets too.
>>340300274
I don't think it was primarily oldfags or purists complaining though. Youtube is full of old FPS fans admitting they were wrong. I think most of the people hating on it now are people who haven't played the game or maybe haven't even played the originals.
>>340308568
Its not bad, its just not Doom
>>340309709
After replaying the third one it definitely feels more generic due to a lack of props.
I like the boss battle and the ending so I'll carry over stuff like that but I think I'm gonna go for smaller, more packed maps.
>>340309052
>autism is not a disease
In the same sense that fetal alcohol syndrome is also technically not a disease, yes.
>there are "people" that pronounce gib like jib
It got quite formulaic, every fight locked you in a small arena and had monsters spawn in over time.
Most monsters do pretty similar things and none of them have any tools to restrict the player's movement, meaning if you can keep moving you're never going to be in trouble (and that's fun at first, but it gets old)
>>340297484
>now i know it's really gonna be shit
>buy game anyway
Nobody is this stupid. Stop trying to trick actual Doom fans into buying your horrible schlock.
