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>Knows the entire time that Corrin isn't blood related
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>Knows the entire time that Corrin isn't blood related to him, just his step-sibling
>Talks all this shit about how joining him is your "Birthright"
Ryoma is a big fat liar.
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>>340277576
I fucking joined Hoshido because of it too.
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>>340277901
>Joining Hoshido
You deserved everything you got.
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>>340279739
Goddamn I wanted Azura to go mute by the end of the game.
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>>340277576
>Not joining Nohr who loved you regardless

You deserved it traitor
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>>340280037
I can understand where OP came from though. Fucking the next King of Hoshido who is voiced by Matt Mercer? Pretty tempting.
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>>340280151
but is that better than turning a family against it's own father?
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This is what happens when a dude writes a 500 page version of the story and you decide to cut it down to size


What the fuck is IS thinking?
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>>340280249
Garon was a rabid goo monster who needed to be put down.
>>340280287
From what I understand/what someone translated from a twitter post he only wrote the draft/outline?
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>>340280339
Read the Iwata Ask article on Fate


He wrote 500 pages when he was only supposed to write the draft
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IS please. No more kids in the next game.
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>>340280506
I agree. If they can't do them right, don't do them at all.
>>340280418
That's a fucking shame. Fates' story is so half assed.
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>>340277576
>Your mother isn't Hoshido Queen
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>>340280671
Mikoto IS your mother though and she was Queen at one point because she married Sumeragi. It's just that Ryoma's mother, Ikona, is Sumeragi's first wife.
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>>340280671
Mikoto was queen though. Just the second queen.
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>>340280249
Garon ordered Corrin to be killed, and Corrin knew this entirely

Honestly Hoshido is the logical choice after that. Even if it is shit.
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>>340280625
In Awakening it was worth grinding for the kids


In Fates, not so much

\
Hell, the kids in fate are fucking 2 dimensional and make the awakening kids look like fully developed characters.
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>says "how dare you pretend to be my brother/sister" in Conquest chapter 25
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>>340281598
Ignoring that, the game starts off with you siding against Nohr in a dream.
It's clear that IS wanted you to pick Hoshido.
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>Hoshido
Weebland with shit gameplay, family pretends to love you even though they just met you. Completely betray the siblings who actually love you.

>Nohr
Garon threatens to kill you on a daily basis and you just put up with it, the rest of your family doesn't really seem bothered by the fact Garon would kill them all without a second thought. Good Gameplay


>Revelations
"Hey guys theres this 3rd other evil kingdrom that I cant tell you more about, now trust me and jump off this cliff with me thx"

Fates is fucked.
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>>340282229
That there is some fine and dandy reading comprehension you got there, buddy. You know you need basic reading skills to fully enjoy this game?
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>>340282395
>wanting to read Fates plot
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>>340282229
>>Completely betray the siblings who actually love you.
>The Nohrian siblings love you too
4chan X is a wonderful thing, you know?
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So would it be worse to fuck your adopted siblings or your step siblings?
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>>340283105
Elise.
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Hai
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>>340283318
I hit it.
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>>340283908
Gross.
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>>340281878
It is implied in the game that you were already pretty old when you were kidnapped, I mean, even Sakura remembers you. You did spend some time in Hoshido so it's not like they're just meeting you for the first time. You might not be related to them, but you did spend some of your childhood with them, so that must count for something.
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>>340277576
He wanted the boypussy. Can you blame him?
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>>340286153
>boypussy
>Not having him sire Chad Thundercock with Femui
You fucked up.
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>>340286472
i like qt guys too much
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>>340286569
>NTRd by Shiida
Go home Kris, before Katarina does something drastic.
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>>340286472
>Needing some loser that looks like a lobster when you could be smoking weed and making dank memes with Azama
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Mamui is a slut! Sticking it in Mamui!
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>>340286850
Ryoma's a King/Prince though. And they're both voiced by Mercer so it's a win/win either way.
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>>340286906
Too bad he's only gay for Forrest, who's only into blue-balling him.
Oh, and Niles too.
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>>340287164
nah he's gay for me and i'm going to fuck him, my day dreams work at nintendo, trust me
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Did they ever finish the fan translation of this? If yes, how is it?
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>>340287164

>you can't gay fuck the trap

Biggest letdown of the game
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>>340287392
No, it died sometime around when the official translation came out.
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>>340287397
femboys are better than traps imo, i wish i could've fucked laslow or takumi
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>>340277576
>Ryoma wanted Corrin to be Hoshidan Royalty even though they weren't blood related and they barely even spent any time together

Sorry, Nohr dindu nuffin, right?

Dey wuz good bois.

Dem hosheedos didn't surrender and shiiiieeeet when dey got invaded.
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>>340277576
In all fairness though, Corrin was born into the family and had spent enough time to the point that every one of the siblings had enough memories with them to make their feelings perfectly valid.

>>340280287
More like this is what happens when you wrote the "bloodline" angle but you still want to give players the option to fuck their family.
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>>340287451
I see. What is currently the best way to play this?
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>>340287551
>Corrin was born into the family
No they weren't? Mikoto brings Corrin to Hoshido with her when she left Anankos/Valla.
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>>340287551
>Corrin was born into the family

OYAKATA-SAMA isn't Corrin's dad. Buy Hidden Truths DLC like a good goyim to find out who is.

Also, the Heirs of Fate DLC is fun as fuck.
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I really don't like the false dichotomy the game presents. I'd personally rather it be morally grey of both sides with different views, and methods and such.

I mean that's what the creator of the original FE games intended to do before he left Intelligent Systems.
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>>340287551
>spongebob jokes
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>>340288043
The only funny one that I've seen is the Larry the Lobster/Ryoma one and that was barely funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDEvpaNBT_k
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>>340277576

Best Girl Coming through!

>75 HP!
>43 Strength!
>35 Speed!
>32 Skill!
>100% Crits!
>100% Real Tits!
>Best Waifu!

Why haven't you married Charlotte yet?
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>>340288271
Because I plan on marrying Xander/Ryoma.
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>>340288271
cucklette
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>>340288271
Because she died.
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>>340288271
I kinda want to marry Nyx instead.
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>>340288271
Don't forget

>Hilarious supports
>In-game Paired Ending is dedicating herself to raising a loving family
>Amazing Pair-up boosts
>Great voice
>Canon abs
>Will destroy you in bed unlike Rinkah who needs to be handled with care
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>>340287848
Corrin being anakos' son is actually in the base game. In the record hall. Hidden behind baby's first cryptogram.
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>>340287613
I'd honestly just go with the unfinished patch on the JP version if you want to rub faces

Or an undub patch on the US version if you don't care about that.
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>>340288329
>Tfw for some reason, Tumblr hates the fujoshipper and the reverse-fujoshipper

You would think a website almost dedicated to pretending straight characters are gay would love the gayshipper characters.
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>>340288636
Alright, thanks anon.
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>>340288271
>not making her dream come true and have her fugg a prince/king
Wow mean
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>>340288651
>fujoshipper and the reverse-fujoshipper
Wait, who? I've seen a ton of Xander/Ryoma stuff. And Xander/Femui/Ryoma stuff too but that's more on Pixiv.
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>>340288271
because I ruthlessly murdered her in revelations. Benny too.
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>>340288862

>not making her dream come true and have her fugg a prince/king

You ARE a Prince!
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>>340287551
>More like this is what happens when you wrote the "bloodline" angle but you still want to give players the option to fuck their family.

It sounds like this it's a problem for you

Play FE4
Kaga already touched incest in FE4. In fact, he originally wanted to focus more about the incest problems (like a main plot)
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>>340288862
>Making her queen of a barren land that all it's neighbors hate and half it's army are murderous scumbags plus problems with famine
>Instead of making her Queen of Valla and letting her push Azura around in the Royal Court
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>Only lesbian option is fucking Rhajat

IT'S NOT FAIR

AT LEAST GIVE ME THE SKYMILF OR THE OLDER SISTERS
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>>340289139
Sorry anon, they ain't gay.
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>>340288862
Corrin is technically a prince of 2 different Kingdoms and a King of a third one.
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>>340288881
As in Nina and Soliel, who ships guys and girls together respectively.

I get Soliel's garbage supports, but you would think a yurishipper would be popular with actual yurishippers.

I guess they must be ashamed of themselves and don't want to be reminded.
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>>340289197
>>340289139

Just like real life!
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>>340289197
Which is a shame because Camilla seems to have some bisexual tendencies.
>>340289229
Soliel caused too much drama. And I assume a lot of them pair Niles off with a guy, so Nina doesn't exist for them? I mean she would presumably get adopted after the game but still.
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>>340289139
Those two aren't your eternal soulmates.
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>>340277576
>Corrin isn't related to his Hoshido Sibblings!

Oh really?

Then please go ahead and explain how Corrin, brought to Hoshido as an infant baby, can have two YOUNGER sibblings, both years younger that him. When it's explained that Mikoto didn't marry Sumeragi until after his previous wife died?

The game makes it very clear that the letters for Sakura/Takumi's sake at least, are just a sweet lie Mikoto's told you to save you from the guilt of falling for your sibbling.

"Oh no, that's not true. Sakura and Takumi are clearly designed to look different from Ryoma and Hinoka for, er, for REASONS!"

Come on anon.
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>>340289139
>Gay guy option is actual best boy in a kingdom full of best boys
>Gay girl option is a shit character AND shit unit in a kingdom full of qt girls that can wreck stuff excluding Rinkah who would break her hand if she tried swinging her club
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>>340289305
You realize that this is LITERALLY said in the game in both the base game via the tablets, the DLC and by Ryoma, who in his A-support doesn't have the letter and knew the whole time? Did you not play the game? Anankos is Corrin's biological father. And considering we don't know the siblings exact ages it's perfectly possble for Queen Ikona to have given birth to Takumi and Sakura. You don't know exactly when Mikoto and Sumeragi marry.
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>>340289305
Play the game, anon. Mikoto already took Anankos' massive dragon god dick. When Mikoto married Sumeragi, Sakura and Takumi were already born.
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>>340289249
But it's not real life, it's escapism! If I wanted to be reminded that all the best girls aren't gay, I would just play a man.
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>>340289305
>Oh no, that's not true. Sakura and Takumi are clearly designed to look different from Ryoma and Hinoka for, er, for REASONS!"
Takumi is really the odd one out here and even then he was originally to supposed to match his siblings in hair color.
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>>340289056
R-really? Sheeeit
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>>340289305
Did you not play the game? Ryoma doesn't have the letter in his S-support with Femui. He knew the whole time that you're not related because he was old enough to remember .
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>>340289651
Then why didn't you?
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>Anna is still not out europe
>Married Reina instead

She is cute for an old woman but there's something about the birthright characters that I can't quite put my finger on
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>>340290324
I did in Conquest. But I hate male Kamui's design and voices so much. It just wasn't worth it. Plus I wanted to give my Femui Vanguard class because buff warrior girls with huge weapons is my fetish.
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>>340290495
>Want to marry Anna
>Treehouse replaced her lines with "lol loves money more than you" memes

I hope the Fan Translation gets finished someday.
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>>340290652
That is understandable and you have excellent taste in fetishes.
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>>340288972
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Playing through Conquest and it keeps hammering down the point that you're working for an asshole who looks like an ape, but you're doing what you can to reduce the number of casualties as you beat up Hoshido. How does Birthright handle this? I hear things like how Conquest is essentially the suffering route while Birthright treats Corrin's choice as the "right" one which kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I hear who in Nohr gets killed in Birthright.
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>>340288972
Takumi get off 4chan.

>>340291642
Murder everything in your path. I hope you aren't too attached to Inigo.
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to be fair, Xander does the exact same thing; only difference is, Ryoma does it out of respect for Sumeragi who wanted Corrin to be considered and treated as a full blooded Hoshidan with no step sibling weirdness, whereas Xander does it to avoid disobeying his goo dad.

though, to be even fairer, Ryoma loses that high ground the moment he decides to throw his father's wishes out the window to fuck Femui
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>>340283908

>that erection when she does her winky face or says big brother
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>>340292005
Xander knew but he did admitted as soon as it comes up in the storyline before the split. You technically can go throw all of Birthright without finding that information out and you have a bit more leeway with this on the Nohrian side as it's confirmed that the Nohrian siblings all have different mothers with Xander being the only one whose mother is Queen Katarina and at the time Corrin could plausibly be a child of one of the concubines.
>Ryoma loses that high ground the moment he decides to throw his father's wishes out the window to fuck Femui
I'm cool with it.
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>tfw still no Revelations in Yurrop
Wew lads
Conquest felt good, but half-finished.
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>>340291642
>but you're doing what you can to reduce the number of casualties as you beat up Hoshido. How does Birthright handle this?

OBJECTIVE: ROUT THE ENEMY
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>>340292284
If Europe works like how the American release did, the people who have the SE already have Revelation. I believe it was available for download 4-8 weeks later for everyone else.
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>>340291642
Birthright is just basically your normal FE story. MC's home invaded by assholes. Go on a long-ass journey around the world, recruiting dudes and engaging in skirmishes. Grand finale involving storming the evil empire's home castle. A wacky showdown with a dragon at the end. But serve with rice and miso soup.

>alright, these assholes are fucking up Japan
>I dislike violence but we gotta do this shit if we're gonna end this war
>Whoa Nohr is kinda fucked up, when this war is over let's export some foreign aid and help rebuild this shithole

I think people only tend to perceive "Birthright" as the "right" one, if only because Corrin is much more focused and determined, rather than their sort of passive meandering in Conquest or the roller coaster weirdness in Revelations.

If anything, the only difference is the story doesn't bend over backwards to say "oh yeah you're beating the shit out of everyone, but don't worry, nobody dies" in Birthright.
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>make game with branching plot
>bottleneck it all with dlc "true" path

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>>340291363
>>340291859
Sorry I cba to send elise all the way across the map to talk to some chumps I won't even use.
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>>340292242
Xander only tells you once the cat's out of the bag anyway though. That's hardly worth commending.

>>340291642
>conquest azura/corrin support
"we must do everything we can to preserve every drop of precious nippon blood we filthy gaijins are needlessly spilling"

>birthright azura/corrin support
"kill'em all"
"nohrmies aren't even people desu"
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>>340292284
Sorry anon, but unless you FUCKING LOVE ROYALS, Revelations is godawful. It's only redeeming factors are that the Hoshido/ Nohr cross supports like Azama/ Effie, Niles/ Oboro and Benny/ Oboro are great.

You want to know how harsh it can be to not be a Royal in Revelations?

>Odin shows up at Level 10 Dark Mage in Chapter 18, your enemies are all promoted and Odin does an average of 0 damage on higher difficulties
>Nyx joins at Level 10 Dark Mage the same chapter Shura joins at PROMOTED Level 10 Adventurer
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>>340292629
>not using critty titty
>>340292703
Revelation has fuckawful balancing. Odin joins with worse stats than hayato, who joined like half a dozen chapters ago.
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>>340292629
>Not using Camilla to ferry Elise
>Missing out on on of Nohr's better mothers and a dad to one of the better 2nd Gen kids
>In a map with no time limit
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>>340292703
I just wanted to farm dem supports, Conquest won't let me do that ;_;
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>>340291859
>Murder everything in your path. I hope you aren't too attached to Inigo.

I had a chapter where I had to send Elise to multiple people so they can join her/us. I did that with one unit, then they turned into a green unit and got themselves killed so I stopped going to the trouble with the rest of them and just killed them.
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>>340292805
>Odin is already garbage on a route he can be somewhat salved on
>Make him more garbage in a route where he has to compete for deployment slots with minmaxed 2nd gens, Ryoma, Takumi, and Silas who spent 14 chapters hitting the gym for mad bases
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>>340293139
Conquest really needs a support-farming option. The no EXP/ weapon EXP lock is great, but no supports is really irritating.
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>xander: "By the way, my dad killed your dad and kidnapped you when you were babby, and I knew about it. I've been lying to you for what might as well be your whole life because it's what my dad wants. But now that you've met your actual parent and learned the truth, might as well pretend I was planning to tell you to save face."

Nohrmies will literally defend this.
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>>340293298
There's my castle, and the DLC maps.
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>>340293298
And fuck the repeatable DLCs.
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>>340293140
>Chapter where you have to play defensive
>The AI rushes to their death and dies on the turn they join you

Fucking retarded.

>>340293336
I was playing Birthright the other day and laughing my ass off at something Xander said.

"How dare you turn on the loyal soldiers that protected you all your life!"

Protected Corrin from what? Ninja rescue operations?
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>>340293448
>>340293468
Repeatable SCALING DLCs. When you want to marry off shitters and bench units, it becomes a problem.

MyCastle Sieze maps are good though.
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>>340293298
>>340293139
does just battling in other peoples castle and doing the dlc over and over do that though?
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>>340293621
Presumably all of the times Garon tried to fuck with them. Gunther's support straight up says that he was told to whip Corrin just because Corrin wouldn't open up when they were younger. And from what the siblings say it sounds like they tried to protect each other after the waifu wars as best they could.
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>>340293140
What, that birthright map?

you can't recruit them. you can talk to them to turn them non hostile but then they disappear from the game after regardless of if they survive or not
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>>340293823
Yes, but DLC scales to chapter. Enjoy Swordmasters, Spear Masters and Master Ninja in the Awakening DLC late-game.
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>>340293923
And no XP :^)
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>>340293923
Wait, so I should be doing that map as soon as I can then?
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>>340292883
>in a map with no time limit
gotta go fast
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>>340288271
Too much babying, I pair her with Xander and call it a day
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>>340294243
If you want the one-time rewards. Trying to get it late game is a bitch since an unpromoted Chrom charges at fucking Master Ninja.
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>mfw Lucina and Para-Falchion were MVPs in my first Conquest run
>mfw buying Falchion
Neat as fuck.
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>>340294243
Only if you want the brand that lets you turn units into Lodestars and Great Lords. They didn't program Chrom and Lissa's promotions into the game(and since it takes place before Awakening it'd be kind of weird anyway) so instead they just scale as a special class and can't really get into too many skirmishes.

Lissa hangs back but Chrom'll be right on the frontlines. It won't be too much of an issue if you try the DLC in early game but lategame the ninjas will teleport his ass right to the boss.
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>>340294432
>check rewards for this quest
>Frederick also hands a Pebble to the Avatar, saying that it will help them on their journey
>mfw
Turns out it's a debuffing throwing knife weapon, but
"a pebble" really lame for a parting gift


>>340294720
Welp, I'm at chapter 14 so I better get to it before that map gets too obnoxious.
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>>340295102
>Tfw if you use the map to support grind and end up with tons of pebbles, you can forge them together to make a mega pebble of death if you have a Nohrian Forge
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>>340295257
For real?
Time to stone hoshidians to death then.
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>>340277901
You really joined Hoshido because of "muh blood"
Not because dear old daddy is clearly evil and trying to kill you, and continues trying to kill you if you are retarded enough to go back?
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>>340295102
Pebble has some great debuffs though. On top of Freddy's habit of obsessively picking up rocks from Awakening, it's a pretty clever thing for the Oifey to give. Something to soften up enemies so somebody else can safely wade in and get the kill.

Only knife/shurikens better than it in terms of debuffs are the A and S-rank ones.
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>>340281878

I just now realized revelations is pretty much what happens when someone takes the idiom of jumping off a cliff because everyone else is doing it and throws it right off a cliff
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>>340295102
>>340295257
>>340295690
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>>340277576
This kind of makes me like him a bit more actually. Means he isn't some perfect saint like many of the other Hoshidans.
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>>340288271
Because I went the lifelong-friend wife route.

Also I haven't played Conquest yet
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>>340288464

Not to mention the Rainbow Sage offhand calls Corrin a dragon during the Conquest route.
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>saw this thread earlier near the bottom of the catalog with 2 posts
>ignored it
>come back hours later
>it's still kicking with 100+ posts
That'll teach me.
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>>340286850
I knew he was strong, but holy fucking shit. Prf weapon for Azama when?
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>>340287992
Yeah, it would have been great if Garon, Hans, and Iago weren't moustache-twirling evil douchebags. Ah well.
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>>340288271
I want all the kids, so I'm marrying Flora. I gave her to Kaden, I think.
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>>340298529
He'd probably get one before one of the sisters would. Granted, giving a half-decent pref weapon to Tits McGee would break the game in half.
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>>340296697
Felicia is the best waifu.
She sticks with you no matter what, will leave nohr just for you in Revelations, completely disobeys Garon just to fight with you in Conquest, and sides with you when everyones against you in Conquest.
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>>340298969
I mean revelations on the last one.

I was distracted by the felicia.
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>>340289139
Download that gay hack. Solves the male avatar/uneven kid problem and opens some interesting eugenic option for the kids. Soleil turned out pretty good after I forced her dad to suck Xander's dick.
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>>340298969
Too bad that's just because she has nothing to her personality beyond being an insecure clumsy moeblob. Of course she follows you no matter what; the entire point of her existence is for the player to love her.
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>>340289416
I dont know why but I'd be gay for Tharja

but not Rhajat
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>>340299265
This is fire emblem, pretty much all the characters are cardboard cutouts.

Especially in Fates
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>>340299056
I love Felicia!
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>>340295690
>think the Caltrop is hot shit
>realize I've been carrying the pebble around the whole game
>and it's 1-2 range
>mfw
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>>340299506
>Especially in Fates

Nah it's true across the whole series, just in the other games nobody in the right mind would waste all that time, thousands of turns and multiple playthroughs unlocking the supports to read the dialogue.

In FE4 characters who don't even share a single word with each other can marry each other.
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>>340288271
Don't forget
>10 Def
>2 Res
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>>340298873
I only just realized none of the sisters get prf weapons... I'm not normally the type to care about such things, but in a game about choosing between two families where you have five sisters and four brothers, that's kind of sexist.
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>>340299859
I think the only character I'd say has any real depth is Ike.

Which is pretty impressive considering thats 1 character out of 14 games.
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>>340281878
>the rest of your family doesn't really seem bothered by the fact Garon would kill them all without a second thought.

It's stockholm syndrome and something that would probably happen in a place where the power structure is hierachical(Dictatoship, Religion) where you have one guy with absolute authority at the top.
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>>340300270
Sigurd Ephraim and Hector do too off the top of my head

Even Marth kind of does if you count FE13
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>>340299645
tfw you'll never have a qt ice maid gf
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>>340281731
Also, most of the kids in Fates are shitty units anyway.
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>>340299859
Well the reason Fates and Awakening are more noticeable is simply that the quantity of the supports have increased, but not the quality. Games were also less character-focused then, so rather than the more 'colorful' characters in recent games you had lots of bland characters.

>>340300025
Female characters not named Azura and maybe Felicia get shafted in Fates hard. People complain about Waifu Emblem but it's more Otome Emblem now. Their attempt to appeal more to girls and their favoritism of Azura really hurt the rest.

>>340300312
Well it is also strongly implied that they are bothered by it (at least Leo and Camilla) but they don't really think they can do anything about it directly.
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>>340283908
>She's totally 18, guys! Even though she looks and acts like a 10 year-old!
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>>340300270
How can you think this

Have you actually played anything except FE9? Even if you just count FE9 there's plenty characters who have reasonable amounts of depth, definitely on par with Ike at the very least.

Pretending FE always had Awakening/Fates tier characters is a flat out lie. Modern FE just uses characters as something to be enjoyed by the player, an archetype with no real history, place in the world and isn't written to realistically be believable as as real person, which is why face rubbing and shit doesn't seem retarded in context. Imagine if face rubbing was in FE4 or even the GBA games. It would seem utterly retarded because those characters are written to be actual characters in the world rather than tropes for the player to enjoy. Did stupid tropey characters exist? Yeah they did, but characters like Serra and L'Arachel were minorities used for comic relief. Meanwhile Awakening/Fates have the majority of characters be like that, and even worse characters like Lucina who they did actually try with are made fun of by the tropes for being 'too serious'. It's backwards as fuck and nothing like the old games.
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>>340287536
Takumi looks like he enjoys being stuffed with cocks.
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>>340300270
Hardin kind of does too though, I mean he has that whole arc over his two games.

Starts being a powerful Cavalier who is involved in a love triangle, and ends up as the main villain.
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>>340301085
And Camus/Sirius
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>>340300976
They might not have been as 'tropey' but they sure as shit weren't particularly interesting when it comes down to it. Tell me what was so interesting about Kent and Sain? Or Oswin? Or Florina/Fiora/Farina? Or even Lyn and Eliwood?
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>>340288214
That Astra part made me lose it
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I found Takumi in Fates hilarious. He is basically the sole sane man in the entire setting and is constantly shat on for having some level of actual intelligence and doubt for a random royal of a country you're at war with suddenly appearing at your capital. It's like that Paladin dude in that shitty Blazer hack that was played ages ago on /v/. The one relatively sane character in a full retard story who is constantly surrounded by retarded characters.

Seriously it's no wonder he gets MAD AS FUCK in Conquest, I don't fucking blame him his siblings, Corrin and virtually everyone around him are absolute retards.
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>>340300669

Percy and Soleil were fantastic units in my game, and Nina was pretty good too.
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Keaton a best
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>>340301290
All those were presented as actual characters and had actual interactions with the world around them, however small. It made a believable setting.

Does anyone REALLY care about the setting of Fates? It doesn't seem real because all the characters don't seem like people. Do you think anyone would really care if they tried a FE4 twist in Fates? They couldn't even do it, it would be impossible to create such a serious situation with that kind of cast. It's impossible to care. You won't find that in the other FEs and that's why.
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Sorry shit quality
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>>340300786
As a yaoi-loving flaming homosexual, I'm perfectly okay with their attempts to appeal to women as long as it means we get more cute boys.
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>>340300976
>even worse characters like Lucina who they did actually try with are made fun of by the tropes for being 'too serious'
This in particular was so fucking stupid in Awakening. Why are all the kids except one or two fucking happy go lucky silly anime characters when they are all meant to come from a super grimdark dystopian world full of constant suffering and despair? Literally only Lucina seems even slightly affected by it and even then only slightly, and it seems to puzzle the other children more than anything else regardless. So stupid.
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>>340300885
She's "technically an adult" by medieval European standards. Which means she's probably 13.
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>>340301702
I said "most." Velouria, Percy, and Ophelia are decent, and Soleil and Nina are okay. If anyone has tried to use any of the other child units, I feel bad for you.
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>>340300786
Why would anybody give a shit about Azura when you could marry Vaida?

>Joins pre-promoted early
>Flying
>40/60/55/60/45 HP/STR/SKL/SPD/DEF growths
>Delicious tomboy
>Will only support Corrin and nobody else, only girl who wouldn't cuck you.
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>>340288214
>Lilith chugging hot dogs

Okay, that was pretty good.
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>>340288271
>30% Hit Rate!

I'll pass.
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>>340301859
Sounds like you are high on nostalgia then. The cast of FE7 are only 'actual characters' as far as they might have been more lighter on the gimmicks. Most of them had very little in the way of interesting interactions with the world, if any at all.

What has Kent ever done that gave him any sort of personality at all? Same for Eliwood, unless you count "nice and honorable" as a beacon of personality. And Sain has nothing to him beyond "flirt". Hell even Inigo/Laslow has more to him than Sain, and they are the same archetype. But go ahead and tell me how Sain is some deep character. I'll wait.
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>play Conquest on hard/classic
>all these fucking misses when it's 90% or higher
>meanwhile always get hit by abysmal hit rates from the enemy
Fucking god damn.
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>>340302612
Literally played FE4 last week and finished FE13 after Awakening, no 'nostalgia' involved unless you can nostalgia for stuff you recently played.

Stop trying to look for stupid reasons to ignore a point. I really don't have much to say to the Kent and Sain shit except 'play the fucking game'. Both of them talk constantly through Lyn's campaigns, have unique banter with a lot of NPCs and have support conversations that go beyond 'lmao let's both do our gimmicks in a zany conversation!'

And if you are legitimately saying Eliwood who is literally the main character has no development or personality in the game in which he literally has the most lines and the most connections to characters of anyone in the whole game I don't even know what to say.
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>>340302985
Sorry, FE13 should be FE12
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>>340301614
That's why everyone except Azura grows a fucking brain in Revelations
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>>340302326
>Hans mutilates this in Conquest
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>>340302326

>No Crimson+Ryoma support

Way to fuck it up, IS
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You hitched with best girl, right, /v/?
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>>340302985
I have played the game. Repeatedly. I'm not ignoring the point because your point is filtered through nostalgia goggles to begin with.

I never said they didn't talk outside of supports. But they really don't have any interesting interactions that expand on their characters. Most of Sain's are "flirt or talk about girls, and be chivalrous because girls" and most of Kent's are him being a dutiful knight/robot.

And Eliwood doesn't actually change much beyond his feelings with Ninian and his leadership improving I suppose. His personality remains pretty static throughout, with said personality being dry as the paint on your wall. Now if you had said Hector I might agree, but you didn't.

But keep telling yourself that FE7's cast is deep and interesting. It's clear you are determined to believe that regardless of the actual truth.
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>>340303565
Her personality is flatter than Lucina's chest. I'll pass.
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>>340303421
Why does Hans have so much plot armor?
>Falls to his death in the prologue chapters
>lol j/k, still alive!
>Attacks you with Camilla
>Kill him again
>lol jk, still alive!

Fucking Hans
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>>340303565
Back to the advising corner.
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>>340301018
yeah mine (i wish)
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>>340303565
>Implying I'm the ocean's gray waves
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>>340303565
I sure did.

>inb4 muh dub
Didn't play.
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>>340303782
He's such an asshole too. I have an almost Kefkaesque dislike for him.
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>Lilith sacrifices herself so you don't get hit by an axe
>like 3 chapters later you tank hit after hit from Xander
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>>340304184
I think Iago is worse. Hans seems like he's just loyal to King Garon and doesn't care about how he's impacting you. Iago actively wants to make you suffer.
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>>340303565
They game pushes Corrin with her so fucking hard.

Relationships feel really pointless with these two fucking so much in the plot.
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>>340281862
Spoiler alert: Japanese people love DAT SAMURAI DREAM even though their ancestors were probably dirt farmers.
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>>340304701
You'd be excused for forgetting who you married if it wasn't Azura, since the game insists on beating you over the head with how they are 'two halves of the same whole' and such. What's the point of even giving the player a choice if the devs are so desperate as to do everything they can to push you into choosing who they want?
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>>340304556
All three of them are pretty awful.
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>>340304701
>>340304998
If you marry someone other than Azura, you can just head canon that she's just your side wench.
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>>340304998
Same thing happened in Awakening funny enough, Chrom was so pushed towards the MC that it felt as if the two were actually gay fucking.
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>>340305270
>implying robin doesn't power bottom robin in his tactical quarters
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>>340305270
Friendship between comrades is wonderful, but if you're playing a FeMC and you don't let Krom hit that you're kind of missed the point.
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>>340305270
I played as a grill and it was pretty apparent how hard they were shipping you.

Is it weird that the game allows you to be either Lucina's mom or her husband?
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>>340305563
I thought they were shipping Chrom with Sumia?
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>>340305270
Robin/Chrom is a top tier pairing. The two are so cute together!
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>>340305563
I think it's weirder that Male Robin has better supports with Chrom than Female Robin.
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>>340305662
Male Robin, that is.
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>>340305659
KromxSumia is how it went down in the unaltered timeline, but YOU CHALLENGED YOUR FATE so now you can have him take anyone to the bone zone.
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>>340277576
He knew that his sistee was in love with him, that's why lobster wanted to save him.

Also, king sumeragi loved him like it was his blood child, wich was actually a fewling that lady mikoto shared because she raised and loved the resr of sumeragi kids like they were their blood children.

God damn, even on the support of Hinoka she confesses that lady mikoto always loved them and It didn't matter thar they were not blood related.

Familly bonds are more that blood OP, stop being a dick tingler and just fucking enjoy the game.
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>>340305270
Chrom is actually likable though.

I'd also take Robin over Corrin.

and oddly enough Male Robin x Chom > Female Robin x Chrom
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>>340305659
>>340305794
Krom x Sumia is what happens if you play male Robin.
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>>340306285
And she still becomes irrelevant right after their marriage, Chrom probably made her pop a kid then kept fucking mRobin in the quarter afterwards
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>>340306175
Robin is vastly superior to Corrin. Corrin's armor is also gay compared to Robin's robes, and Robin's magic trumps that dragonstone bullshit.
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>>340305563
FE:A pushed you and Chrom if you were FeMU. I believe Chrom by default goes to you first when he needs a bride unless you have like zero support with him. Lucina insults you for having bad taste later on when she confronts you because you didn't marry him.
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>>340306452
My personal headcanon is that Robin married Tharja and Chrom married Sumia, all of it just being a cover story to hide their true love for each other.
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>>340306285
WHY ISN'T MALE ROBIN x CHROM AN OPTION? THEY ARE SO CUTE TOGETHER. LUCINA COULD JUST BE BORN FROM THE RANDOM MAIDEN THAT CHROM ACCIDENTALLY KNOCKED UP ONCE. MALE ROBIN x CHROM IS THE CUTEST, PUREST PAIRING.

IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>340306164
>Familly bonds are more that blood

Literally the point of Conquest.
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>>340306738
>headcanon
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>>340306708
Chrom goes to Sumia by default. FemRobin is the second default after Sumia if he has more support with her than with Sumia.
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I want fujoshits to go.
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>>340306708
But lonk was cuter than chrom...
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>>340306835
You pretty much have to considering how much fucking shit is up for debate in awakening
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>>340307000
He belongs with Nowi.
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>>340307045
Everything is canon, except when its not.

Macross style.
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>Fight Leo in Birthright
>After chapter ends he talks about how hypocritical Corrin is
>Says Hoshido are nothing but backstabbers and would slit the throats of Nohrians if given the chance
>Says how Nohr stands to lose everything if they back down now
>Corrin : "NUH-UH!"
>Leo : "Oh shit I'm sorry you're right. Here have a plot convenience spell."

So we get the most knowledged, rational member of the Nohrian royals saying how scummy Hoshidans can truly be and we're just going to ignore everything he says?

That was some pretty deep seated resentment he had going on there.
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>>340307095
>not Cordelia
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>>340307095
Nowi belongs to Gregor you pleb.
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>>340307095
>>340307271
Robin belongs with Nowi, you ingrates.
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>>340307358
>not Chiki

Couldn't even pick the right dragon.
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>>340307095
>>340307224
Lon'qu and Lissa are canon though.
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>>340306708
IIRC FRobin is actually the lowest priority choice for Chrom bar Villager
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>>340307560
I thought it was Sumia > FRobin > Maribelle > Sully > Olivia > Villager
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>>340307560
And Sumia makes the worst Lucina.

You really think that would be a freebie but nope, gotta get that Olivia dancing.
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>>340277576
I found it amusing how he knew literally nothing about the country he was fighting except that they're the "bad guys." He was so shocked to learn that the citizens were all poor and starving since their land was Mordor and Hoshido (who literally had so much food they were discarding a lot) refused to trade food to them.
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Should I have Silas marry Belka or Peri?
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Hoshido is full of liars. It's their one flaw.
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>>340308464
I had him marry Effie. General Effie with a married Great Knight Silas paired up has a ridiculously high defense.
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>>340308464
If you want a good Sophie then Mozu.
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>>340308707
>great knight
I thought Paladin was better?
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>>340308707
She's already Keaton's wife

The defense Pair up is insane
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>>340308806
>Caring about Sophie

Oh boy, another fucking Cavalier. I really needed one of those.
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Hey fags, is it worth getting Fates or Birthright provided that I liked Awakening?

If yes, which one of them?
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>>340308848
I already have Xander, I'd might as well make Silas a Great Knight for dat defense.
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>>340308957
>not liking Sophie
She's the best daughter.
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>>340309030
They're both shit, but Conquest at least has some difficulty to it vs. Weenie Hut Hokkaido.
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>>340286472

>not breeding a strong chad thundercock and then riding the lightning yourself

I almost felt bad about this because Shiro/Sophie and Shiro/Nina were really cute supports.
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>>340309030
Conquest has great gameplay if you can put up with the shit-tier writing. Birthright and Revelations are meh.
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>>340288271
Because I love Camilla more.
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>>340288214
The astra part was fucking hilarious anon it made the video
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>he thinks people care about him lying

He's popular as fuck, girls just want to fuck him, they don't care.
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>>340309164
Conquest is pretty much only more difficult because of the map layouts being impossible to traverse.
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>>340309689
Much more limited money and no grinding also exists.
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>>340302326
>Vaida

>tfw vaida probably died returning to Bern instead of settling down and getting old with Merlinus

It makes me wish they'd butcher FE6+7 for a current mechanics remake because she could probably get a happier ending there.
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>>340309809
I don't think those make it much more difficult. The levels they choose for the enemies usually line up pretty well, you just have to know who to focus on leveling up.
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>>340309273
I find it funny that no matter how hard NoA tried to push Azura and Corrin, Camilla still topped the popularity contests even with that sub-par VA.
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>>340309809
That doesnt really mean a whole lot when theres units who can carry the entire game.
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>>340302326
>wouldn't cuck you
>tfw she says "you're special. But not as special as Ryouma!"
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>>340309423
He's very attractive and the kid he gives you is great, can't blame them.
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