How did we go from this...
to this?
>>340254545
Might and Magic is better
>>340254545
What's even happening here?
to this?
>>340254545
Why does RPG suck so hard?
>>340254670
>open console
>toggle combat ai with 'tcai'
>take cherrypicked webm
Oblivion and Skyrim have the 'best' combat systems out of TES games. Doesn't make them not shit compared to Dark Souls for example though.
Things haven't changed all that much.
>just keep whacking away at damage sponges until they fall down
>no tactics required, just stats
>>340254969
nope, you can circle strafe anyone like that in the game
if you toggle AI i'm pretty sure they don't even follow you
>Doesn't make them not shit compared to Dark Souls for example though.
wew lad
>>340254969
>Oblivion and Skyrim have the 'best' combat systems out of TES games
Can you explain how? They have the best animations obviously but mechanically they're not much better. In fact I would argue they're worse since they don't integrate any kind of dodge/parry.
to this?
>>340254969
No, I remember confusing Arena combatants by strafing in a circle
>>340254969
Kek lol nozzle me zozzle lmao
Dark holes having a better combat system then elder scrolls
to this
>>340254596
You mean this?
>>340256805
>all hits stagger
Why is a 14 year old game more reactive than a game released in 2011, and that took 5 years to make.
Instead off complaining about the fighting system, tell us /v/, how would you make a good RPG fighting system.
>>340254545
>MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA
>>340256996
shit overpaid as fuck coders who can't code physics in a game to save their family's life.
Bethesda should hire the coders from NBA 2k to do their physics and collisions because Bethesda is failsauce.
>>340257293
Detach the player from the action by using a perspective different than first person and build a system based more on character sheet than precise player input.
That is how you do RPG combat. If you want action, you don't want RPG.
>>340256996
>>340254596
morrowinds combat was not as bad as people remember, it was just a table top dice roll style, and limited your weapons you had no skill in to misses rather than less damage.
after level 40-50 in a weapon skill you never really miss
>>340254969
Actually, the best non-magical TES combat goes toOnline.still could be a lot better though.
>>340258192
I'm curious where this logic comes from when Wizardry was one of the first if not the first party based CRPG which takes place in a first person perspective and works quite well.
>>340258678
It's a slightly different beast. It's hard to talk about first person when that "person" is a 6-man party glued together. That's already a layer of abstraction to hide behind, and then there's the fact that it's turn based, which means rng is expected.
>>340258653
Did someone say Online?
>>340258864
MM6 and onwards can be played realtime
>>340258864
>your entire party fugs the demon queen
lol
>>340254545
>Skeletal warrior just dies
Every TES game so far had shit combat
The TES games rank lowest in any possible combat in open world games because they have 0 deepth , are boring as fuck and just consists in Click Left mouse to win
Post the daggerfall vampire cage molestation webm
>>340258653
How would fel to penitraite vagoo?
>>340259630
Like sticking your dick under the leg of your table.
>>340254545
>AAAATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA
>>340254545
holy fuck, I just got spooked. please post trigger warnings next time
>>340260385
>blood comes out
>and then it explodes
Ok.
>>340256805
>>340258416
I recently played Marrowind again (Got stuck and stopped playing but that's a different story) and yeah, combat was way better than I remember.
I tried to build a custom battlemage, and it SUCKED. Literally that mudcrab webm. I took 10 minutes to look at some quick guides, and the next character I made was slicing through enemies proper.
>>340254608
might and magic is better, ultima underworld is better but of course /v/ babbies only know betheshit
>>340264267
TES Arena and Daggerfall were pretty much just shitty ripoffs of Ultima Underworld with an empty open world slapped on top.
>>340264306
and fucking retarded guards that walk into walls constantly
What happened to RADICAL LIZZY?
>>340254596
And this is why I never made it further than the first city in Morrowind. First fucking mob literally would not get hit.
out of my way, elder scrolls fucking shits
>>340266338
the fuck is this and is it good?
>>340266338
https://youtu.be/KnxgQMSsc8c
>>340266338
What is this and where can I get it?
>>340266517
Yes
>>340266517
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
It's pretty good, played it again a few months ago and it still holds up.
Allthough you can pretty much abuse the dynamics to make it really easy.
>>340266517
>>340266604
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic (it's on steam)
And yes it's very fun
>>340266565
Praise Dark Messiah
Bootin' 'n' lootin'
>>340254545
to this?
>>340266707
That level is fucking great
to this?
>Skyrim
I thought that game only restricts to play as an Archer with emphasis on Stealth.
>>340267138
It's the only remotely fun thing, pretty much. People shrug off your puny magic like it's nothing and melee lacks any kind of oomph.
>>340267021
Fucking love The Quest, dev is pretty bro-tier and made changes to the game just cause a few of us asked on steam forum.
>>340267021
Damn that nigga's hands are really far apart.
