Did anyone honestly try to contest the idea that Kaepora Gaebora is not the owl?
It's like those people who insisted OoT started the timeline even after Aonuma confirmed Minish Cap at the start of it
>third party Zelda games
>canon
Kaepora Gaebora is the owl though.
Are you referring to Rauru?
>Kaepora Gaebora
think you mean rauru, bub
Rauru is the owl though, it's as clear as the tree being the Deku Butler's son in Majora's Mask.
Even if you don't count Hyrule Historia as being factual, there's many hints throughout the game.
There's a gossip stone that tells you the Owl is rumored to be a reincarnation of one of the sages.
Even their artworks are similar.
And Skyward Sword references the fact they were the same person with that Rauru looking guy named "Gaepora"
Kaepora Gaebora is the Sage of Light.
>>340253968
Wouldn't being a reincarnation mean that he's someone long gone reborn into a new body? Rauru's still around.
>>340252827
It's like all those old rumors about the Triforce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mtXzwal5xU&index=1&list=PLeOaeUY657QelPoWwwTVIU0PIvWx_23kX
You're told in the game that Kaepora Gaebora is the owl.
The myth is that Rauru is.
>>340254882
Yes, but Ocarina of Time strongly implied every sage died before becoming a sage.
It's true you see him in the sacred realm, but that's like the spirit world, he's also the owl at the same time in the real world.
>>340253968
I always wondered why he has no hands
>>340255423
No he's not, because you see him at the end of the game flying through Gerudo Valley, when he tells you that his power resides only inside the Sacred Realm (he specifically says "namely").
This is why it's bullshit. If he's dead, he can't be alive too.
>>340255105
Someone actually made a video about that stupid site
>>340255656
>Things can't be alive and dead at the same time
>>340256201
Last time I checked, Zelda was not a commentary on the Shroedinger's Cat principle.
>>340252827
Though the principal in SS is an okay guy, I'd rather he not be KP just because I hate Ocarina's story being connected to that abortion in any way.
Even Twilight Princess showed more respect to OoT link and in that he's a dead lonely virgin..
>the owl is in Termina
>yet none of the sages (in their original form) are
Get fucked, Raurufags.
>>340257228
Ruto is the Fish chick in the blue dress.
>>340257318
She's not a sage in Termina though.
>>340257228
>Implying that's not the same owl
>>340257554
The Owl isn't a sage either numbnuts
MM is romhack tier anyways and the whatever lore it has is shoehorned
>>340257824
>doesn't know Link.
>tells you that forest children are rare in these parts when you meet.
Nope.
>>340257883
That's his point Sherlock Holmes.
>>340255939
feel like the biggest retcon to oot is all the kokiri living, not rauru or the triforce or whatever. Why are they still alive in the ending?
You now realize the owl turning his head upside down was him mimicking Rauru's face.
>>340258024
How can you retcon something introduced in the same game?
As for the answer? Maybe the Deku Tree just meant the real world would eat them alive?
>>340258024
I think you mean plothole. A retcon is an amendment in a later installment to a story.
The "Kokiri die when they leave" was a myth to keep them safe because forest is all they know. So to leave the forest, for them, is to surely die. But Deku Tree Sprout was a lot more chill than his father.
>>340257931
Why would he know Link?
Ocarina didn't happen in that timeline.
>>340258151
Holy shit you are right
>>340258251
For there to be an owl, there would also have to be a Rauru, who doesn't exist in Termina.
>>340258151
You mean Gaepora's face.
Rauru has a super serious face.
Fun fact; you are now realizing Rauru/Rairaru is a play on "Hairauru." Hyrule.
>>340258348
That's why I'm saying it's the same owl.
>>340255105
triforce confirmed
>>340258251
He knew Link before he left the forest. How do you possibly forget?
Hoo hoot!
Link...
Look up here!
It appears that the time has
finally come for you to start your
adventure!
You will encounter many hardships
ahead... That is your fate. Don't
feel discouraged, even during the
toughest times
>>340258443
If it was the Ocarina owl who entered Termina somehow, he'd have remembered Link, but he didn't.
>>340258682
Like I said, he doesn't remember Link because Ocarina of Time didn't happen in that timeline.
>>340258735
He already met Link. The Deku Tree is already dead. Link intervenes in time, while Ganondorf is swearing his oath to the king.
This happens after him and KG have met.
>>340258682
He does talk about Termina like he doesn't live there. He treated about as mysteriously as he was in ocarina.
Something like "This world has lost it's guardian deity"
Though maybe he was just talking about the swamp.
>>340255105
Guys! Guys! Link is dead! Game theory said so!
>>340258380
I figured it was from "aur", relating to light, like in "aura", "aurora", and "aurum".
>>340258875
There's no reason for him to talk to Link in the new timeline.
who the fuck is dat owl
>>340259496
Reincarnation of this fag
>>340259496
Aonuma's self-insert
>>340259364
Too bad Link got there after they already spoke then.
>>340252827
fake
I wish people would stop spamming all these fake pokemon evolution leaks
retards
>>340252827
Its sad you even remember this guys name. You must have played this pos recently.
>>340259834
Koizumi's self-insert.
>>340259887
There's no proof that's where he ended up.
He probably woke up in his bed like last time.
>>340260078
You never beat OoT? It shows him going directly to Princess Zelda after the warp back to the original timeline.
>>340260241
Yes, but don't know if the same exact events unfolded.
The owl came to him as a guide, to start his journey.
This time, there was no journey.
>>340260561
Ganon was still cursing people and things before he staged his coup. Impressions from the direct sequel suggests the Deku Tree isn't alive anymore. So at the very least Link's tutorial and trip to Castle Town happened.
>>340259737
He's a reincarnation of an ancient sage, which within Ocarina of Time, refers to the group that Rauru belonged to, who built the Temple of Time to protect the Triforce. I don't think Skyward Sword's Gaepora was around in the same time period as Rauru.
>>340260852
But the owl talks about how he has a dangerous journey ahead of him filled with many hardships, he knows what's going to happen.
He'd have no need to come to Link this time.
>>340261160
He'd still know of Link, he seems completely oblivious in Termina.
are we really acknowledging anything in MM as credible to the lore?
it's a fucking
>>340261295
>he seems completely oblivious in Termina
That's up to interpretation.
He just says it's weird to see a fairy child in that area.
He could still know him, they just haven't exactly met yet.
>>340261496
why not? both OoT and MM were written by the same dude
>>340261160
Unless you're trying to say that Kaepora is himself controlling time; his first and second direct advice in the game is directing Link to go to the castle to see Zelda.
Yes no matter when Link went back Link would know what he's doing; but Kaepora shouldn't have any knowledge Link's already saved and altered the future.
Owls are retarded as fuck. I wish the meme that owls were icons for intelligence and corvid birds were akin to vultures and pigeons died off sooner then wait until the late 00s early 10s.
So if it's not the OoT owl that went into Termina...
And it's not Termina's version of the owl...
Then who the fuck is dat owl?
>>340261841
How does Kaepora not only know Link's name, but knows he's destined to go on a journey?
Rauru was an all powerful sage, and the oldest of them, he probably knows everything.
>>340261980
It's Termina's version of the owl.
>>340262337
There would have to be evidence of Rauru in Termina if that were true.
Or are you saying KG isn't Rauru?
>>340262040
I wasn't arguing for or against the Kaepora/Rauru dual identity angle at all. This should be completely independent of any alternate identity.
Kaepora does claim to know Link has hardships and adventures ahead. But you're supposing that's precognition? Instead of collusion between Kaepora and the Deku Tree? Or hell it wouldn't have taken a bird, magical spirit avatar or not, to have eavesdropped on the stories the Deku Tree told Link had already been set out on a journey and has quite a bit of work ahead just on the contemporary world.
It's pretty obvious Kaepora doesn't have omniscience and any kind of future-time travel knowledge. Kaepora tells Link in the future: he didn't believe the stories of Link traveling back and forth in time until he then saw him. So he couldn't change his own actions based on it being the second time around.
>>340263035
>It's pretty obvious Kaepora doesn't have omniscience and any kind of future-time travel knowledge
But the one in Majora's Mask does.
>>340262885
I think he's not Rauru, but a reincarnation of one of Rauru's fellow ancient sages. It doesn't seem to make sense for Rauru's spirit to have reincarnated into a new body when his spirit's still lingering and acting as a sage. And their personalities feel too different for them to be the same guy. Kaepora Gaebora lacks knowledge of time travel that Rauru has, too.
I don't think the reincarnation thing's too much of an issue to begin with anyway, though. There are weirder things going on with Termina's counterparts, like Ingo and Malon becoming five different people.
>>340263576
Sure, but what does that really suggest? Everything else in Termina is an alternate version of the Hyrule character. And even if it wasn't a different bird the game transpires after the relative end of Ocarina of Time so Kaepora would've been able to catch the aftermath of Link's spoilers.
>>340264232
>Everything else in Termina is an alternate version of the Hyrule character
He talks like he isn't from Termina, and says he always felt that Link could change the fate of "this land" almost like he knew of him, and the fact he traveled to Termina.
>And even if it wasn't a different bird the game transpires after the relative end of Ocarina of Time so Kaepora would've been able to catch the aftermath of Link's spoilers
As long as they didn't actually meet again, it clears up the contradiction.
>>340265093
Kaepora Gaebora in Ocarina of Time knew exactly who Link was before even their first meeting scene. He immediately calls him by name. Even if that first meeting doesn't take place, it doesn't make sense for the Termina Kaepora Gaebora who doesn't know who Link is to be the same one.
>>340255105
hey that's pretty good
>>340265512
There's no evidence the Termina Kaepora didn't know of Link before their meeting.
All he says is how weird it is for a child to be in the area.
He could be just playing dumb because these events weren't really supposed to happen in the first place.
>>340265768
Well that's just a bunch of doubletalk. If he knew of Link, before and he thinks Link can save the world because of it as he says later: he knows Link is a hero, and wouldn't condescend to him like that.
>>340265969
This Link isn't a hero yet, though.
>>340253163
>implying
>>340255423
>The sages are all dead
HORY SHET
>Darunia dies fighting Volvagia
>Ruto was eaten by Jabu-Jabu
>Impa is killed by the spirits beneath the well
>Nabooru drowned in quicksand or is killed by Kotake and Koume
So what happened to Saria?
