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What is Kingdom Hearts (as in the thing within the games and not the games themselves)?
>>340247572
A heart-shaped moon where all hearts go to when they die. And yes, all hearts go to heaven, son.
>>340247572
Its a large collection of hearts that looks like the moon but is in a heart shape for whatever fucking reason.
TLDR: Its something that doesn't make sense, like the rest of the story.
KINGDOM HEARTS ISLIGHT
>>340247696
I thought it was Darkness? or is there a light within the darkness? or is it friendship, memories, hearts, and salty ice cream.
On a side note, why the fuck do people like this game? I'm not even trying to troll, I played the first one and it was not good at all. Shit characters, boring and predictable story, annoying combat. Is it just nostalgia?
>>340248124
I like the Disney levels and the combat wasn't terrible. I just wish the plot wasn't so goddamn convoluted.
>>340248124
>boring and predictable story
Yep, so boring and predictable that you practically have to read an encyclopedia to get it.
>>340248124
The character interactions are cute and the combat gets good by 2.
>>340248348
As unlikely as it sounds, I hadn't seen any of the movies that were in the game. And when people always said that the plot was convoluted, I was expecting something like MGS, where its complicated because there's a lot going on. In KH, its convoluted because everything is explained horribly. Yet everyone still goes fucking nuts over this series.
>>340247992
>>340247696
Sora was just bullshitting himself that entire scene
>>340248492
You don't have to read an encyclopedia because its complex and interesting, it's because nothing is explained well and nothing that happens makes any sense.
>>340248124
>predictable story
Nigga what?
Throughout the series the game has become a mess to the point nobody understands it.
>>340248668
Yeah I have 2 sitting on my shelf. After I beat 1 though I couldn't bring myself to play it. And I just thought the characters were annoying and boring.
>>340248782
Again, because it's just explained horribly. Not because it has cool plot twists or interesting things that happen. At least that's what I think from only playing KH1.
>>340248863
The characters are all corny and cheesy but there's some heart to it which I find endearing. These games are definitely a guilty pleasure.
>>340248772
I actually don't disagree with you there.
>>340248124
It's so garbage if you play 1 and 2 in order like that thanks to square releasing these titles in the most retarded way ever seen in gaming. (I Don't think they expected it to blow up) HOWEVER IF you take the time to learn the rest of the story through reading up on or watching chain of memories and 358/2 days it becomes FAR more interesting and better. I hated it and thought it was overrated as shit the first time I played the games but when I got around to playing final mix with the side movies and replayed 2 I enjoyed it much more.
>>340249070
Yeah, that makes sense. It's just weird how it seems like everyone on the internet thinks that Kingdom Hearts is the greatest game ever made.
This is apparently where a bunch of KH Fags will post about just how flawless KH is.
http://www.tgmhub.com/index.php
>>340249186
Maybe not KH1, but KH2 is a legitimately good game. The combat can get pretty cuhrazy on higher difficulties.
>>340248492
first game really does have a simple story. it only gets crazy with the other games.
>>340249184
That's good to hear. I'm also not a Disney fan so maybe i'm just not the target audience. idk
>>340249427
That does look pretty cool. I played the first one on proud difficulty which in hindsight was probably a bad idea. I just remember getting stunlocked and how you couldn't dodge during the attack animation.
>>340249514
The Disney shit is really not that great, it annoys me most of the time. I think it's better when it is focusing on the anime shit and characters.
>>340249427
>cuhrazy
>he just uses limits and reaction commands the entire fight
I mean, it looks cool, but he's just spamming Triangle most of the time.
>>340249818
I'll take the Disney shit over the anime shit any day cause THAT'S the shit that get's all "everyone is an reincarnation and no one actually exists".
>>340249818
I just could NOT get into the characters. I'm usually fine with the whole stereotypical anime JRPG character thing, but something about Sora, Riku, and Kairi just annoyed the hell out of me.
>>340249848
And then there's fights like Lingering Sentiment that are legitimately off-the-walls insane. That fucking desperation move, god damn.
>>340249427
https://youtu.be/NnhjQ-k6gFU?t=5m1s
>>340249818
No I like the Disney shit and the anime shit equally, and I like how they treat Disney worlds as filler most of the time.
>>340250026
See I liked the story in 358 and COM because it really expands upon who they are, what they're going through, how things came to be, etc. It was much easier to empathize at that point and I'm honestly a sucker for melodramatic anime shit so the roxas, xion, sora story arc I liked. It also made fighting roxas and going through his story in 2 far more enjoyable.
>>340250470
That's good, I guess. Does anyone else get annoyed at how much they say the words Heart, Light, and Darkness? It's seriously in like every other sentence towards the end of KH1
>>340250756
The entire series is Heart, Light, and Darkness. It's literally the explanation for everything.
>>340251145
KINGDOM HEARTS IS LIGHT
HAYNER
Will I be able to play as Riku in KH 3?
>>340251558
PENCE
>>340251848
GOOFY
>THANKS SO MUCH SORA FOR SAVING THE WORLD ALL THOSE TIMES OH WHAT'S THAT YOU FUCKED UP ONCE? NO MASTER FOR YOU EVEN THOUGH PAST EXAMS WERE LITERALLY JUST HITTING BALLS AROUND
>OH WHAT'S THAT RIKU? YOU WERE A MASSIVE TWAT FOR TWO WHOLE GAMES, GOT CORRUPTED BY THE DARKNESS AND EVEN LOST YOUR FUCKING BODY? YOU'RE A KEYBLADE MASTER NOW LOL
>IN YOU AND I THERE'S A NEW LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD WHOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
3D was an infuriating game, I tell you what.
Sora and Riku are literally just Naruto and Sausage at this point.
>>340252028
Even Naruto and sasugay are more compelling
>2016
>still playing kingpoop farts
>>340249427
webm time?
>>340252028
Made me chuckle
>Implying Riku is anywhere as bad as Sasuke
Stop it
KINGDOM HEARTS...
WHERE IS...
MY HEART...
>>340251959
DONALD
>>340247572
Whatever the hell Nomura needs it to be to move his trainwrek of a story.
>>340252527
RIKU
OUT OF MY WAY
>>340252028
>>340252134
Yo fuck you Riku is the best chracter in the series and realized what a fucking edgy cunt he was a dropped the whole mopey act. He is one of the best developed chracters in videogames.
>>340247646
>>340247665
>.t faggot that doesn't get the story.
Kingdom hearts is not a heart shaped moon faggots, a large collection of hearts is required to open the door to KH, it just so happens that 100 billion hearts combined take the shape of a fucking heart.
Kingdom hearts is an unkown realm that holds power that is said to be able to recreate the world.
>>340252746
>He is one of the best developed chracters in videogames.
Kingdom Hearts is mass of hearts from the worlds and those who inhabit them.
After the only real key to it broke, it split into two. The first KH is the heart of all worlds.
>>340252215
It's always webm time.
I wish I made more, though.
>>340253157
>he complains about people not getting the story but doesn't get the story
The moon in KH2 was an artificial KH created by combining many people's hearts, the TRUE kh is a BLUE moon that was summoned in KH2 by the presence of the X-blade. Before it was summoned it existed in the realm of darkness, you can even see it behind the door to darkness in that scene as a big heart
>>340253582
fuck i meant summoned in BbS
this is all in the xehanort reports in bbs
>>340248492
>>340248772
>implying the story is even remotely difficult to grasp
Holy shit how retarded are you
Literally just pay attention
That's all it takes
>>340253431
I have a handful
>>340252028
>THANKS SO MUCH SORA FOR SAVING THE WORLD ALL THOSE TIMES OH WHAT'S THAT YOU FUCKED UP ONCE? NO MASTER FOR YOU
Tell me anon
Did your teachers pass you on a test that you failed because you had previously passed other tests?
>>340253921
This. And long with saving the world in KH1+2 Sora had help from all his friends AND Riku, and Riku in 1 was the only reason he got Kairi back, and Riku in 2 saved his dumbass from getting killed by taking a hit for him.
In DDD, Riku had to save himself AND sora. Sora can't do shit alone.
>>340253884
Why was Marly so fun to fight?
>>340253431
Why does Sora have a crown in this?
>>340254461
Beat Lingering Will, All Data Org 13 members, Beat all Mushrooms.
>>340254461
KH2 Final mix gives you bronze/silver/gold crowns for doing certain things within the game. One for beating all 13 Org XIII Data rematches, one for doing all 13 Mushroom XIII challenges and one for beating Lingering Sentiment.
You can do them in any order.
>>340254349
Too bad it was easy as hell. I went a good chuck of my life thinking that was a hard boss fight.
>>340254349
I thought he was a snoozefest because it was literally repeating the same patterns over and over with hardly any variety + him being relatively slow until you get him to use his limit break, then pray you don't get rng'd and died to it because of the camera. Then again, I was playing on lvl 1 critical so fucking up made it a chore
>>340254349
>no exp vs marluxia
>>340255120
I dunno, personally I found that fighting him at lvl 1 made the fight 10x more fun, to be honest. The fact that literally one single wrong move meant death really made the fight a rush. The way his patterns repeated made the fight very methodical, and I find that very pleasing in a boss fight.
ANIME
>>340248863
if you have KH2 Re:Mix and play it on Critical Mode you'll understand why people like it
>>340255934
>push buttan
>cutscene happens
Kingdom Hearts
>>340256067
Fuck you I'll miss these
>>340254349
It's a shame he's so easy even at level. The data fight isn't any harder than the Absen Silhouette and all his moves are clearly telegraphed and easy to dodge. I still enjoy the fight simply because I know it like the back of my hand and absolutely annihilating a boss is fun.
It just so happens that I started making a webm of Marluxia's dm before I saw this post and I gotta say
>wasting all that MP
shame on you
Speaking of webms, does anyone have any requests? I'm up to making some until the FFXIV servers get back up. By the way, does anyone know if there's a code to remove the command menu text like there is for the hud? No hud makes everything look a lot cleaner for webms already, but the floating text still bothers me.
I really hope Osaka team learned from BBS so they don't turn KH3 into a shit game too. KH3 doesn't have the command deck so it's already better than BBS
>>340256353
That's an interesting cheat. I've never seen one that changes your drive form every action command
>>340256686
>wasting all that MP
Yeah yeah I know, I suck. I never could seem to consistently nail the timing for guarding the end of his DM, though.
>>340256686
Wait you could block that spinning scythe this whole time?
>does anyone have any requests?
That reaction command of final Xemnas kicking the keyblade out of Sora's hand and Riku comes to save him.
>>340256942
It takes some timing but if you turn around at the right moment, you can block it. Do it too soon though or hold the analog stick down too long and you'll get hit by the pillars. I used to be able to do it consistently as a teenager, but it took me a while to get it right since it's been years since I tried that.
I'll get working on the Xemnas webm.
>>340256353
Flowmotion will make up for the lack of anime.
>>340256942
>Play KH back in junior high
>Takes a gorillion attempts to beat Riku
>hardest fight ever
>years later
>playing on proud mode
>get to Riku
>Think this is gonna suck
>wail on him like a retard and win with zero effort.
>>340247572
We don't know, only Xehanort is attempting to open it up, thats his main goal all series long.
Behind it is a mystery, it could be heaven, it could be a God, it could be power. Who knows, i'm betting he will succeed in KH3 and we fight him inside kingdom hearts
>>340257801
Flowmotion is mostly jumping and then just one strong attack unless they will give you more attack options to use with flowmotion. Just won't feel the same.
>>340248954
>only playing the first game
Get out of this thread
>>340258139
If they introduce Flowmotion combos, which can be chained into and out of normal combos, I think it could be a lot better than Reaction Commands.
>>340247572
Kingdom Hearts is the supposed "Heart of all worlds"
The heart shaped moon "Kingdom Hearts" you see in KH2 was artificial created by the Org XIII
There was another heart shaped moon at the end of Birth by sleep but I'm not sure if that was the real kingdom Hearts either
>>340256942
Just to make sure: you wanted the part at the end of the fight after the laser showdown, right? I don't recall Xemnas ever actually disarming Sora.
>>340256353
It was terrible paced not exciting because it was always triangle, jarring transition, amongst other issues.
But by god is it fucking satisfying and why I enjoyed the whole ride.
>>340259296
This
https://youtu.be/s4n-xvNQ0GY?t=15m56s
>>340259639
Oh damn, I don't think I've ever actually seen that. I'll see if I can trigger it.
>>340259597
I love most of these. Seeing sora do some of this stuff had me pretty hype as a young lad
>>340259740
I didn't know that was a thing until I did his data battle earlier this year
>>340260007
>that second RC
I never even knew it existed. Damn.
>>340248954
Well there you go
>>340256686
What did you do to the HUD? How?
>peaking of webms, does anyone have any requests?
Make them look a tad nicer.
>>340260431
I don't remember those combo enders.
>>340260192
>>340260492
Seriously?
>>340260431
>What did you do to the HUD? How?
There's a cheat to hide the hud.
>Make them look a tad nicer
Yeah, I don't know what's going on. The source file is fine but when I convert them to webm they look like shit. I haven't had any issues with webms before so I'll have to look into it.
>>340259639
I've got some other things to take care of right now, but I'll get your webm done and post it another time in some other KH thread.
>>340260612
Yeah man, seriously. I've played through KH2 and 2FM countless times and I'd never seen that second RD where you get thrown and spin around the pole.
>>340260652
High bitrate low resolution.
>>340260431
>>340260612
Oh, it's the regular enders. I'm too used to seeing Guard Break/Explosion/Upper Slash.
Isn't Kingdom Hearts the origin point?
Where the remnant of the Big Original world that used to existed?
I definitely know its in the Real of Darkness.
>>340260745
>High bitrate
How high?
>>340253157
It's a door and a moon, the heart of all worlds is a door, yes worlds have hearts too. The heart of all men/women/cartoons make a yellow moon. Together they make a blue moon and the real Kingdom Hearts because fuck you.
>>340261068
Imagining Master Xehanort saying this is just making my night right now.
>>340261068
>It's a door and a moon
No.
The door was not Kingdom Hearts. It's the Door to Darkness. The door to the Realm of Darkness.
Fucking hell, why does everyone think this?
It's literally stated in the game that Kingdom Hearts lies beyond the door.
>>340261154
Arin mentioned it in an episode of Game Grumps. He's stupid.
>>340252028
I always thought Riku was neat actually because he's not an edgy faggot so much as an arrogant asshole who can't handle facing challenges he doesn't overcome with ease so he wavers quickly when he thinks darkness can give him a boost and majorly fucks up, but he eventually pulls his head out of his ass every time.
>>340261154
C'mon man. Not that poster but I thought Kingdom Hearts was the door until the ultimatum came out in english.
The whole ending of 1 was pretty bizarre, esp for kids.
>>340247572
No, you're all wrong.
Its a magic.
>>340255934
I fucking hated how QTE heavy that ending sequence was.
>>340260938
That really depends on the clip, anywhere from 2000-4000
>>340261154
You're wrong. I know now, without a doubt
Kingdom Hearts...is light!
>>340261715
Thanks I'll start playing around with stuff
>KH3
>We finally enter Kingdom Hearts
>it's a vast white expanse that's completely empty, save for one thing.
>A small desk, a chair, some stationery, and a man wearing some slacks with suspenders and a shirt with the sleeves rolled up who looks like Walt Disney
>The team walk up to him and sees him drawing various characters.
>"Hm, I see I have some visitors. Do you Like my drawings?"
>"Where... Where are we?"
>"The heart of all worlds of course."
>"Why... why isn't there... what's going on..."
>"Not what you expected?"
>"No, I mean... I don't know what I was..."
>"Ha ha ha. I see you're a little confused. Allow me to explain. This is the heart of all worlds, the place from which all things come. Every idea, every feeling, everything tangible and intangible. It's the origin of everything."
>"But why it just a giant empty expanse?"
>"Because it's potential, it's possibility. It's a blank canvas waiting to be filled, waiting to become new ideas and concepts. It's what all worlds were before they were, it's the beginning that never ends."
>"But what about the light and dark?"
>"Light and dark, life and death, joy and sorrow, these are all the things that help us bring possibility into the now. Light and dark create visible features and create what we see. They're with and without, coming together to become, to be, to come forth as the worlds that make up reality. They drive both good and evil and are what makes life life and death death. Kingdom Hearts is ideas and possibilities, because those are what the worlds were before they were the worlds and it's the most powerful force there is and ever will be. "
>>340262143
>"Thanks for visiting, and be sure to watch out for all those kikes out there! They're the most dangerous people of all!"
>>340262143
KH Revolutions
>>340247572
Just a reminder that KH3 is only the end of the Xahanort saga
>>340252527
>>340262414
>And if you have to use the bathroom, make sure to take less than ten minutes!
>>340249427
ROXAS! WHAT DID YOU DO WITH KAIRI?
>>340256067
>hating on the pssh nuthin personnel buildingo RC
What's wrong with you
>>340249427
That Zantetsuken finish.
This motherfucker's data battle is the only one I refuse to refight
Everything that happens in the battle doesn't matter, it all comes down to that shitty little minigame at the end that's almost luck based on whether you win or not
>>340258513
Flowmotion and RCs have nothing to do with each other though. There's no reason they couldn't exist together other than the devs caving to stupid people who complained the games are "mash triangle to win"
>>340248124
The first game was mostly just an experiment. It's very unlikely that Square expected it to do as well as it did, which is very evident with how the story of games after KH1 is just sort of thrown together and extremely convoluted.
The combat picks up in 2 and looks more pleasing to the eye, but it's still just mashing the attack button while jumping sometimes and sometimes using a super move.
Honestly, the series sort of died with KH1 and Chain of Memories. Everything after that went to shit and back, especially in regards to the story, styling, and mood.
>>340267094
The context-sensitive Flowmotion commands are similar to RCs, though.
Roll into a large enemy to trigger a specific Flowmotion attack
Press Triangle during the Soldier's leap attack to parry
RCs were a lot more plentiful and there was at least one specific RC for every enemy type, but the same basic concept is similar.
>>340254157
Never being alone has always been Sora's thing though. Sora's greatest strength comes from the people around him, which is why he's always making allies and "touching hearts."
Riku is the one who actually sought to redeem himself because of the submitting to darkness thing.
DDD was never supposed to be when they became masters, but moreso when Riku would finally overcome his darkness. Him becoming a master just means he's conquered his inner-darkness and shouldn't mope about it in 3.
>>340267410
>Roll into a large enemy to trigger a specific Flowmotion attack
>Press Triangle during the Soldier's leap attack to parry
The difference here is that the RC requires specific timing. A certain condition needs to be met before it can be used, and usually that involves blocking or avoiding a specific attack, or knocking the enemy off-guard, or something.
The Flowmotion attacks that can be done whenever are either useless or overpowered, depending on how much damage they're doing, and never really anywhere in-between. In DDD, they dominate the early game because it's just free damage but they wind up pointless by the end because they don't scale with your stats and your commands totally overpower them.
If they made Flowmotion attacks smaller, maybe something like jumping off an enemy's head to stun it or kicking it into another enemy, that'd probably be fine, but the super flashy "spin around a thousand times and hit everything nearby" attacks from DDD should go. It would also be nice if they didn't activate automatically just from getting near an enemy.
>>340268026
>If they made Flowmotion attacks smaller, maybe something like jumping off an enemy's head to stun it or kicking it into another enemy
They would have to be smaller if they were going to hypothetically create a combo system out of it, especially if it was going to mingle with Sora's ground and aerial combos.
I'm thinking things like thrusting a Heartless into a wall, using Flowmotion to run the Heartless up the wall, kick it off, and continue the combo in the air, maybe tracking to an aerial enemy and snagging both of them in one combo.
>>340260938
360p is like 1100 to look good, 480p is 1600-2000, 720p is a minimum of 2500 to 3000 and anything higher is basically only going to be a few seconds long at 3000-4000. Keep in mind if it's effect heavy you lower the resolution a bit and the bitrate as well.
>>340268249
What I would do is dedicate the R2 button as the Flowmotion trigger. When you hold that down, Sora enters Flowmotion mode where he can run and jump off walls and stuff, automatically cross simple obstacles (like how they show him hopping across stones in the river and sliding downhill), and trigger Flowmotion attacks by rolling, jumping, or gliding into an enemy.
I'd also make it so that once you take off into the air and start the wall jumping/gliding stuff from DDD, it puts you on a timer that runs out after a few seconds and drops you back to the ground once its done so that you can't just fly around every area from the beginning of the game. The timer could be indicated by the glow around Sora or just a meter or something.
>>340268802
That's a good idea.
Maybe a Flowmotion gauge that limits the time you have for Flowmotions actions, and replenishes over time a la MP Charge? The gauge could increase/charge could speed up with abilities, levels, items like HP and MP.
It could almost be like Devil Trigger, where you can (if you want to) turn it on and off in the middle of a combo to manage your DT gauge or simply augment the combo.
Would Flowmotion mode affect magic?
Maybe Sora could dash forward with Thunder, or launch from the ground with Blizzard, run a circle around enemies with Fire
>>340269424
>or launch from the ground with Blizzard
Didn't this happen in a trailer?
>>340269504
I don't think so.
I'm mostly pulling that idea from inFAMOUS 2
>>340269683
see 1:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaTjCvUZjck
>>340269896
I think he uses Flowmotion to grind on the ice that formed on the ground, and then did a normal Flowmotion jump from that.
Similar idea though.
How much Disney content is in KH2?
>>340270020
I'd say it's a 1/3 ratio of Disney to convoluted bullshit involving Sora, Organization XIII, ...etc.
>>340260807
I love ridiculous physics like this
>>340270234
Given the amount of Disney worlds in the game, I would say your ratio (should be 1:3, 1/3 is a fraction) is actually backwards.
>>340247572
Do people even try to understand the story or do they just skip the cutscenes and come here to ask questions or complain about the story?
Will we see the real Kingdom Hearts in KH3?
I mean the replica in KH2 was pretty neat because you could enter it but I would like the plot to focus on the real thing again
>>340270395
The Disney Worlds have VERY little to do with the overarching story.
>>340270709
That's not what he asked. He asked how much Disney content there was.
The answer is a lot.
