What is it about these 4 characters that just seems to attract the absolute shittiest, most useless fucking retards to them?
Every god damn time these faggots are on my team they are fucking useless and contribute nothing.
People that play snipers in any game are shitters 99% of the time. Bad Company 2 especially made me want to kill myself at times when you had like 12 wookies just sat on a hill padding their stats and contributing nothing.
Genji attracts weeaboo anime ninja autists but unfortunately is one of the hardest characters to play well. McCree is generally considered OP so he attracts the shitters that want to just play the "best hero" but don't know how to play him.
>There are people that take this game that seriously they feel the need to make threads whining about other players as if they are somehow better or above them
>>340189096
well unless you play zeniatta or mercy youre no better, every character in this game except for those two is cancerous. The fact that you didnt even mention reaper means youre probably a reaper main , and that makes you even worse
>>340192475
>The fact that you didnt even mention reaper means youre probably a reaper main , and that makes you even worse
This tbqh senpai
>>340190605
>McCree is generally considered OP so he attracts the shitters that want to just play the "best hero" but don't know how to play him.
but the problem is than anyone with a functioning E and right mouse button can easily maintain a 2.0kd with him
>>340189096
>A cowboy, a ninja, and the two sniper characters
Gee I wonder
>>340189096
People who lose in 1v1 at close range want to engage people at longer ranges to avoid dying, so they pick the snipers, genji players come to the conclusion that they'll reflect moves that kill them but normally fail to execute and die, and people playing mcree want to be able to do 840 damage close range to quickly kill their opponent and not have to aim as much.
>Let's add snipers to a game that is 99% short range combat!
when will this end
>>340189096
>2 of them summon dragons
>one is a sniper with infrared vision and instant hook escape
>the other kills people on sight without even aiming
Gee I fucking wonder
>>340192475
>having a 'main' in OW
And that's why you're cancer.
>>340189096
>12 pm man
Best character in the game pretty much, if you have a healer/Mercy behind you that damage buffs you/heals you are pretty much a walking tank.
>Widow
If you play her you are an insufferable cunt who sits in the back and tries to be MLG. Literally change to a fucking Support character for fucks sake.
>Genji
He looks cool so everyone chooses him, but in reality you need to learn how to use him effectively which no one in pubs actually does.
>Hanzo
I have no complaints here, but there should only ever be one Hanzo or one Widow on a team. Having two in the same team is the waste of a character.
>>340192475
>well unless you play zeniatta or mercy youre no better
jokes on you senpai, zenyatta's my niggaor maybe the jokes on me
>>340192475
>literally everything in the game other than the two chracters i like is cancerous
Get good you fucking faggot.
>>340193772
>Best character in the game
wew
You don't notice half of those contributing because they're not even front line characters.
While you're trying to break through to the point Genji is behind the enemy taking out the bastion and widowmaker that keep killing your entire time and disorienting the enemy so you can get in.
>>340189096
Most hanzo players I've met are pretty good and I think he's a champion that requires some skill to play.
Genji, on the other hand, is a shitter magnet. Same goes for the other two, but to a lesser extent.
>>340194035
>requires some skill to play
>>340194313
that's just a case of shitty hitboxes, every hero has that advantage
>>340189096
I play as McCree and I look down on other McCrees.
A lot of them actually believed the "McCree is OP" meme and they unironically decided to play him for easy kills.
I have seen so many enemy McCrees walk up to me and try to flash + fan me as if it's gonna work when I can see it coming and then when it fails, they shit the bed and I kill them because they don't know what primary fire does.
>>340194313
That's more of a problem with the "favor the shooter" design philosophy Blizzard has, same thing as Roadhog getting hooks through walls. Although, I've been killed by some bullshit clear misses from Hanzo, so I see where you're coming from.
I have the most hours onSymmetra
>>340194313
but tf2 bow is much more precice weapon (for muh random arrow, but still not that autisticly easy)
>>340194313
This is so fucking retarded. I hate Hanzo so much.
i like spaghetti westerns
as for snipers, i use widow sometimes since im still learning how to use here. dont use the other two tho.
>>340194814
Yeah, the Bow from TF2 is superior and does misfire if you hold the string for long enough.
Plus, who doesn't like seeing someone looking like a pincushion?
>>340189096
HEY DON'T TALK SHIT BOUT MY NO SKILL 360 NO SCOPE FLASHBANG MCCREE. For real though there is absolutely no learning curve for him
Hano is the worst shitter by far. I dont know how people dont manage to completey stomp with him. Hes so easy that, I, who can't even play McRee can play him. Pic related
>>340194313
>7million
>>340194483
Hanzo's arrows are by far the biggest offender of this. Character hitboxes aren't too awful, but the arrow's hurtbox is a large cylinder. Hitscan weapons would miss in the webm easily
>have a useless Genji on my team
>Look at his name
>Animelover something something
Like pottery
>>340191259
>He thinks people that throw the game by picking characters they're bad with are equals to the people playing the objective.
>>340194035
>Hanzo requires skill but Genji is for shitters
Lol. You actually have to aim with Genji's shurikans. Hanzo just relies on giant hitbox and infinite arrow spam.
>>340195604
>You actually have to aim Genjis shurikens
Barely, he's about as hard to play as Bastion.
>>340195604
Don't forget jump and shooting for random headshots
>>340195760
If that was true then I'd be seeing alot more genji carry their weight. The truth is that most people have no idea how to fucking play him.
>>340190605
>tfw really like the old west and cowboys
>wanted to main McCree since they showed him
>really like his play style
>now every shitter who's bad at the game picks him
>mfw
Well at least I still have Reinhardt and Zenyatta to fall back on
I hope that the nerf causes less people to pick him
Threads like these are so painful to read through.
According to you SHITTERS every character is easy to play or overpowered or they fit some other dumb description.
The only character that actually requires zero skill at all is Hanzo. A shitter Hanzo can still rack up kills and probably POTG, a shitter will still be outed as a shitter with literally any other character. I promise.
>mfw just got the 20 kill streak achievement as McCree
M A D B O Y S
>>340195760
>3 timed projectiles compared to hitscan
Nice try. I'd be seeing Genji's getting kills all the time with their shurikans if that was true.
They are characters that can potentially make dozens of kills per game and that's what shitters are after: good KDR and play of the game(which is rarely something else than someone killing many people in a short time).
Just like in every other game.
Hey everyone you can't main characters in OW. Pls stop this
Hanzo is basically randomly fire shit and then ultimate
Widow is sit far back and shoot
Genji is a ninja and everyone likes ninjas
McCree has a badass ultimate that people can't pull off but still try to
>>340196135
>Just like in every other game.
Nope
>>340194035
>champion
pls no
>playing Numbani defense
>two players instalock widowmaker, one locks hanzo
>they're all over level 50
>we get rolled
>only one of the widows changes in the last few minutes of the game
I guess people just don't want to win
>>340196320
Champion, hero, they're both just different words for "class".
>McCree
>24 eliminations
>20 fan the hammer kills
Just needs a simple cooldown on FtH, removes all unbalance. Stun is fine, relies on you not putting yourself in a shitty position. A terrible McCree is completely obvious, as he'll use FtH on a low health target, wasting his entire clip when he only needed one shot to kill.
>>340194035
> Hanzo
> Skill to play
I don't think I've ever been sniped by one who wasn't just firing blindly into a crowd and praying they hit something.
>>340189096
>tfw I play all 4 of themReinhardt is my favorite though.
So according to you faggots no one should play sniper and just spam Mercy revive when Mei and Reaper fuck your assholes into the ground.
Seems legit
>>340196802
Yea, and we need that stun. It's the only damned thing that can stop that fucking tracer and bullshit SJW Mei.
>>340196980
Any character can fire into a crowd and kill somebody though.
Clarify your bullshit and try again.
>>340193390
I hate snipers in every game they exist in. Their sole role is to ignore the objective and camp for kills far away from everyone. And the hard counter is another fucking sniper.
>>340196980
>turn around a corner and die
>kill cam was hanzo spamming arrows
>hanzo wasn't even aiming for me
>missed the roadhog and headshot me
>>340197318
The key word was Sniped
>>340197380
What relevance does that hold?
Are you just more booty bothered to be hit in the head by random fire through a scope?
Go back to standing in the crowd, I'll just be firing grenades like crazy scoring kills without trying.
>>340197318
Yes, but Hanzo can fire into a crowd and kill anybody under 200 health in one hit.
>>340197328
>tfw tf2 has a perfect counter to snipers
>spies turn out to be 10 times more cancerous
not my fault I didn't want to play with two dumb useless reapers
>>340196257
Okay, I haven't played every game in existence.
I certainly remember Dota, LoL, WoW, Wildstar, Tera, CS, TF2 and any Battlefield having that problem that shitters go for the DPS/carry/sniper position even if it is clear that other roles are needed.
>>340197196
That's the only thing that worries me about nerfing McCree, his stun into fan IS fucking bullshit OP, but the stun itself I don't think is the problem.
Remove the stun and that inadvertently buffs Tracers, Genjis, Lucios and Reapers.
>>340197585
So can Mei and Torbjorn, fuck even symmetra can with a power rmb.
>arena FPS
>the Rocket launcher hero is the weakest offense hero
Why the fuck was this allowed. Half the cast counters Pharah.
>>340198197
Quake babies please go
>>340198197
>all of /v/ are whiny shit tier pharah players
Not surprised, you guys are pretty notorious for being shit at games. This is the same crowd that thinks Dark Souls is the epitome of difficulty.
>>340198197
Pharah is retardedly strong, it's just Widowmaker shits on her, but WM is shitting on pretty much everyone other than flankers so it's not surprising.
>>340197897
increase the spread on fan.
to easy to get all 6 shots on any target. Even if you gave fan a cooldown, stun, fan does 420 which for almost everyone on the cast is death.
You can still follow that up with a roll and left click if fan has a cooldown
>>340198584
Ok, add a random chance for McCree to drop his gun during FtH, so he has to aim at the dropped weapon and pick it up if it falls.
>>340197897
Blizz said the nerf would effect his FTH and not his flash.
>>340198953
>implementing RNG where it's not necessary
Remove McCree and add Reaper
You have to be seriously retarded to play McCree and not be able to contribute
I just wish they would remake Pharah's rocket launcher sounds. The thing sounds so pathetic.
>>340197897
They explicitly said he's an anti flanker. The problem with him is the FTH melting tanks too easily. Nothing else.
Can we just agree overwatch is shit?
>>340199231
>Add cooldown to FtH
>Remove ability for FtH to headshot
Done
>>340199404
Fan the Hammer can't headshot already.
>>340199404
fth cant headshot
>>340192475
zenyatta is the most useless fuckstick in the game, fuck you faggots i instaleave when i see one on my team
> People complain about bullshit characters
> Mei is always left off the hook
Ultimate the size of fucking China
Basically a better version of Zarya's Ultimate because at least you can keep shooting in the Gravity Orb
Freeze is basically a better stun attached to a flamethrower
Can Freeze most characters before they can kill her, basically required to be double teamed to defeat unless you're able to snipe her or you're one of those High Noon faggots with their smoke bomb
HA HA Even if you did nearly kill her, she's just hidden herself away in an ice block and healed herself up again
You can't do shit because the ice tomb is invincible and her entire teams arrived now
Oh and she can snipe you too with her icicle
And her freeze spray is just as good as Winston's electricity at clearing out Symettra nests
And to top it all off, she has a Wall which is the biggest shield in the entire game. And unlike all the other Shields, you can't pass through it either.
Oh, and this of course means she can use the wall to get to areas which only the agile or flying characters can get to. And she can bring her entire team with her.
She's literally got everything except speed, but I wouldn't be shocked if they patched in her being able to ice skate to keep up with Soldier 76 or some shit. And enemies will slip on the ice for good measure.
>>340198953
>Add ridiculous game changing RNG
you gotta be kidding anon, here's some possible nerfs
>Give fanhammer a cooldown like Lucio's M2, prevents spray-roll-spray which can kill literally ever hero in like 2 seconds
>Increase the spread so it's only useful at point blank ranges or against big heroes
>Give a unique reload animation after fanhammer which takes twice as long
>Reduce fanhammer to firing only 3 shots
>Make flashbang freeze the player in place but still allow them to turn and use abilities, like Junkrats trap
>>340199487
>>340199595
Oh damn, I always assumed the damage output resulted from some shots HSing. Guess his revolver is just dank.
>>340199692
> Mei is always left off the hook
Probably because she's one of the worst characters in the game.
>>340194594
I think it's the 20 tick rate that "killed" you.
>>340199749
What if the Flashbang lasted as long as Roadhog's chain stun? I've been able to react quick enough to escape that one, but I've only escaped McCree's if they're retarded or I was D.Va.
Would that be nerfing it too hard?
>>340199692
she was buffed after being the worst character in the game, bar none. she's still bad and only gets bad players who get close to her.
>>340199692
So is Mei basically the new pyro? A competetive dud but with endless waves of shitters still complaining about m1+w
>>340199692
>Mei is only good at close range combat.
>Most heroes can escape her freeze.
>Genji deflects ult
>D.Va destroys ult
>most heroes can escape her ult
>Mcree kills her in 2 seconds
>only good ability is the wall
She's terrible. And there's a reason she's not picked in pro games. Only pubs will complain.
>>340199404
They just need to reduce the damage slightly so it can still kill flankers.
Sorry not sorry.
>>340189096
>McCree
No one is actually useless on him.
>>340199692
>stand far away
>win
GEE
>>340200253
No need to be sorry. I prefer seeing hours like this as opposed to level 60+ with 70hours on one hero. It's a fucking joke.
>level 64
>check profile
>74 hours on Hanzo
>7% critical rate
What a joke.
>>340195946
I'm in the same boat. Want to play a game with a bad ass revolver to kill other players. McCree fits the bill. Decide to main him even before I get into beta. Turns out he is OP. Shitters all over him.
>>340199404
add cooldown and make each successive shot deal less dmg. He'll be able to take small hp people but he have to hit more and he can't melt tanks as easily.
>>340192475
>mains
>>340197328
They're not always bad, in games with realistic snipers they're balanced. RO2 they're just a regular rifleman with a scope and anyone with a good eye can counter snipe them.
>>340200438
>cowboy with a dual action revolver with glow sight
>bad ass revolver
Between that and his stupid BAMF belt they couldn't ruin the cowboy design anymore
>slow hdd
>every time i start up the game and get in a game i either get booted for being inactive or load in and dont see any heroes including myself for 2 minutes
>already received the 'leaving games will result in a penalty' message just after one day of playing
>>340189096
I switch to genji if the enemy team is using bastion turrets. I've gotten over 10 solo kills on one game that way which I think it's alright.
>>340189096
Stop bypassing my filters
I can play the others great but is Hanzo just complete shit? I get tons of kills with widow and rarely die but Hanzo just seems so inferior
They are cool or something. I usually pick genji even if someone else is playing him since i expect them to be bad
>4 genji potgs in a row
But in the other hand if they arent shit it's not like i wont play anything else
>>340200423
>74 hours on hanzo
Jesus how boring
>>340192475
>Zenyatta
Get that shit out of here, stick your fuccboi ass to either Mercy or Lucio if you want to help.
>>340200979
Hanzo is worse than widow in pretty much every way except he can wallhack more often and if the enemy is clumping much his ult can clear teams.
>>340201346
Dumb faggot who doesnt know how strong zenyatta is detected
>>340200089
>Mei is only good at close range combat.
Icicle. And so is McCree really, but everyone bitches about him.
>Most heroes can escape her freeze.
Most Mei's won't literally stand in front of you. Once again, it's the same fucking strategy as McCree.
>Genji deflects ult
>D.Va destroys ult
They can do the same to anything, but only the literal worst Mei players would even give them a chance for how short the projectile actually is
>most heroes can escape her ult
You can escape ANY Ult. But the Window to escape is far less than most of them but much more effective. You're looking at this as a 1 Mei versus 6 others perspective. That Ultimate going down opens up any capture point almost instantly to any other team.
>Mcree kills her in 2 seconds
Isn't the point of this thread that he kills everybody in 2 seconds?
>And there's a reason she's not picked in pro games
> implying the majority of people give a single shit about what cheap strategy of the week the "Pro's" haven't figured out how to counter yet
I'm gonna sound salty, but I really don't like snipers in competitive arena shooters because they're the most efficient killers. People will practice for days on end to get the perfect aim, and anyone unfortunate enough to play against these prospective perfectionists will feel cheaped out of a contest.
The same reason is why I switched to only playing gimmick servers in tf2.
>>340189096
>2 snipers with wall hacks
What were they thinking
>>340202119
One wall hack is skill-based.
The other isn't.
>>340202246
If I hit someone with hanzo's wallhack, do they carry it with them? What about reinhardt's shield?
>>340202458
Yes, it follows their movement. Good for keeping track of certain enemies, especially healers when they run to their teammates.
It lasts on shields and Mei walls until they disappear. So if you're Reinhardt and a Hanzo fires an wallhack arrow at your shield, if you lower and then raise the shield it will disappear.
>>340202035
They feel like an anti-fun class. It's always some try hard fag that just wants to camp in one spot and get headshots. When you're faced with a competent sniper, basically all fun goes out the window.
>>340189096
>McCree
>Widowmaker
>bad or useless
Nah.
The problem is that there's a meta of 5-7 basic heroes and those heroes either need a nerf or Blizzard needs to adjust or accommodate other heroes to their team value.
>>340194035
It's not that Genji is a shitter magnet, it's just that he's a situational hero with what is probably the highest skill cap in the game. So it makes sense people would be bad with him.
>>340203773
Yeah, even a stroke victim can do well with McCree but Widow requires at least some skill to be effective. Most pubbies who are drawn to her don't have even that.
>>340203773
>meta
kys
>>340202035
You're completely right. A sniper in any class-based game is always going to be unfun to play against. The only way to beat them it to either outsnipe them or be invisible (eg TF2 spy). It's not fun.
>>340195946
>Love wild west characters
>play Mcree
>say "Take em' to Missouri!" every time I get a kill
I just wanna be John Wayne.
>>340203971
>Genji
>High skill cap
I tried him once just to see if he was any good and got 20 kills without even trying. He's super fucking fast, his stars are fast and hit like a truck, his bullet reflecting shit is ridiculously OP and swift strike is super fucking strong as well.
Add to that he can climb walls and pretty much get out of any situation easily so there's no consequence to fucking up.
>>340203003
>>340202035
>>340204169
Snipers always feel beatable if there are multiple approaches to a point, especially with the vertical movement design. Sucks dick to get the few one way halls and chokes on some of these maps though.
>>340191259
>he thinks /v/ should have nobody to stir up debate and discussion
Pro tip, this (image)board is dedicated to game discussion
>>340196095
>I got an easy achievement with a character that literally cannot miss and has the highest dps in the game
Congratulations, I guess.
>Reinhardt only has 100 HP more than Bastion
>Fire Strike does piss all damage
>Charge has a hitbox smaller than hanzo's arrow to grab
>Earthquake's animation drastically bigger than the hitbox
Literally the only good thing about Reinhardt is his hitbox for his Melee is like two Reinhardt's across.
>>340196802
>stuns are okay in an fps
Kill yourself.
>>340204105
>but Widow requires at least some skill to be effective
Really does not. It's probably the most skilless sniper I've ever seen in a """"competetive"""" shooter. You don't even need to headshot to be effective and you have a built in wallhack and escape.
>>340205219
>Literally wanting tracer to have no counter
She already does insane damage and only really dies if she goes full ham.
>>340189096
Widow does too much damage too quickly with the smg and rifle. Sniper rifle can be fired fast as shit and it charges fast as shit. Don't even have to go for head shots.
Hanzo, unfortunately, is needed to break through a defensive position fortified with barriers or turrets or a big offensive push. Dva could be a good alternative but her ult sucks since it can be blocked with barriers.
The problem with mccree stems from the issue that tank heroes are a pain in the ass to deal with. Reinhardt and roadhog are the big culprits.
Much in the same way that mei is an issue because of those tanks plus tracer and genji. How else are you going to stop heroes with a ton of health and do a fuck ton of damage as well as small speedy heroes that do a fuck ton of damage?
Freeze them or flash + fan the hammer.
>>340205343
I've killed more Tracers as s76 withiut his ult than I can count.
Get good. Stuns have no place in first-person shooters, change McCree's flashbang to actually work like a flashbang, Tracers won't be able to do shit either way.
>>340195437
It doesnt Widowmaker works the same way. The video its from shows that every character has the same head hitbox.
>>340205738
>Stuns have no place in first person shooters
Why? McCrees Flashbang is blockable and easily countered by killing him.
How is "White annoying screen you just blindfire into" any better?
>>340199643
but it gives all your team +25 hp :DDDD
Seriously who the fuck uses Zenyatta
>>340194313
Simple geometry
>>340205995
Good Zenyattas are an absolute nightmare because they realize all their weaknesses.
>>340205836
but not the same weapon hurtbox
>>340189096
Having a widowmaker to shut down Pharah / Roadhog.
Otherwise they're pretty useless as the rest of those 4.
Literally every game I've played where there was a Hanzo he gets the Play of the Game.
>>340206319
They do have an identical hurtbox. Watch the video. Hanzos Arrow hit in the same way as Genjis,McCree's, Widowmaker and Meis weapons.
>>340205995
I do
a good ult wins games, and people seem to underestimate how helpful the discord orbs can be vs tanks
>>340206604
totally wrong
shut the fuck up you moron
-weeb sniper
-sniper
-naruto
-le e-m2 man+ died to a deadeye before
>>340206681
Watch the fucking video you dense twat where all the characters are tested.
>>340194594
Roadhog's hook is a hitscan, what you are seeing is the travel animation.
>>340206604
No, this is only the case with projectiles
>>340206981
Wheres the difference between a Projectile hitting a hitbox as big as a cardboard box or a hitscan weapon that also hits a hitbox as big as a cardboard box.
>>340207225
One is dependent on server latency. The other relies only on the shooter's client.
>>340205995
>Seriously who the fuck uses Zenyatta
Good players, a good Zenyatta will shit out damage and healing.
>>340207331
Latency is dissmissable due low tickrate unless you have BR Net.
Good Genji players are the only ones from that list I ever want on my team
Even if the others are better, Genji's at least aren't always braindead faggots
>>340189096
hanzo:shit but OP ult
window:ass and sniper
gengi:can deflect everything and le katana tips fedora
maccree:stomp is op and good ult too
>>340193073
>tfw broken E button
>>340206621
As someone that plays both Roadhog and Zenyatta I agree. When I'm playing Roadhog I fear Zenyattas because my sustainability is significantly less reliable.
And as Zenyatta I snipe people with balls. His damage output coupled with Discord is really high if you can aim.
Although in pubs I think I'd rather have Lucio just because no pubbie can be counted on to pay attention when you need a heal. Lucio just needs to be within a mile of you.
>>340204697
>Pro tip
Hi, reddit.
>>340207530
>tfw a good genji and never get to play him because teams never pick supports or ranged demos
maybe one day, all japan all day brawl is pretty fun though
>>340197356
>turn the corner and die
>it's another Widowmaker wallhacking episode
>there's no way to know when her ult is active
>best soldier 76 skin is his regular skin in white
Cool.
>>340190605
You got a similar thing in SMITE. Everyone wants to play the assassin or the glass cannon mage. Actually good players are then stuck with healers, supports and warriors. That instalocking little assassin/mage shit gets scores like 3/12 in the game.
>>340200012
it does already if you count the initial grab-stun part, although any roadhog that doesn't kill you immediately after the pull in is either bad, or you're playing a tank.
>>340200702
i could do without the belt buckle but the revolver looks pretty cool
>>340189096
>tfw 20 hours on genji
>tfw people think i'm bad only to do the best on the team and get potg
The assumption that all Genji players are bad weaboos is shit, i just like fast characters and hate Tracer.
>>340194814
>but tf2 bow is much more precice weapon (for muh random arrow, but still not that autisticly easy)
I started playing this yesterday.
I got Young Genji in my second loot box and tried him out, but I couldn't really do much.
I prefer Roadhog, Zarya or Lucio(If I want to win).
>>340189096
You forgot to add tracer in your image.
>>340208936
>>340194814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx-YFFnruDs
>>340206502
How many deserved it?
>>340208028
I never want a Zenyatta in my team unless we already have a Lucio or Mercy.
>>340208756
>The assumption that all Genji players are bad weaboos is shit
>post with an animefag reaction image
you shouldn't be ashamed of your faggotry on an anonymous image board young anon
>>340209286
You can call me what you like, but one thing i'm not is bad at this character.
>>340189096
>Hanzo and Widowmaker
>Can reliably oneshot people at long range
>McCree
>E+M2 = dead opponent, sorry Einstein
>Genji
>Can burst people down with triple shurikens and run away easily with dash, double jump and wall climb
Shitty players like characters that can get them easy kills.
opinions on symmetra on defense after they capture the first point?
>>340209419
It's much harder to burst someone down with Genji though
McCree is absolutely brainless
>>340209534
Yeah, Genji is more style than anything else. But his burst and ability to escape are there.
>>340209213
We had a match on Gibraltar with enemy team having 2 tanks and 2 zenyattas. Funny thing was that push actually worked because 2 discord orbs and 2 zenyatta ultimates fucking wrecked everything. That push ended when people started switching to Widowmakers that shit on Zenyattas.
And really thats the only reason Zenyatta is one of the least played heroes, his hard counter is a sniper that is very popular.
So, honestly /v/, who do you think is the most anti-fun character in the game? The one that makes the game itself less fun for you whenever you come across them, be it on your team or the enemy team.
For me it's Widowmaker. Beyond just attracting the kids that love sniping, her ult punishes flanking, doesn't have a universal announcement like everyone elses and as a Zenyatta player she just straight makes playing as him more difficult constantly even if she's not played well.
>>340209003
Go to training and learn to double jump and wall climb like a monkey on crack. You need to be as hard to hit as possible while still being able to hit your shurikens.
Also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb5wqleyVFo
Basically poke your enemies until you can combo them to death.
>>340209827
Mei
She's not particularly strong and I'm not bothered by her balance wise, but she's just unfun to play against.
>>340208028
True, I always play with a whole team. Zenyatta is most effective when you have coordination.
And the balls have crazy range. Even in a pub he's probably one of those heroes you can get all gold medals on if you're effective enough.
>>340209827
>named Widowmaker
>people are surprised that she kills men
lmao
>>340208183
Get the fuck out of here if you start spewing buzzwords the moment someone calls you out on your retarded behaviour
>>340192475
>main
Just end your fucking life
>>340205738
>Stuns have no place in first-person shooters
This isn't a FPS. This is a cooldown management game with FPS elements.
Low skill for high reward
>>340209887
interesting. Probably a pain in the ass to pull off in a heated fight though
>>340209827
Mei is the only one that flat out makes me angry when she appears on screen.
If a Junkrat kills me with a random grenade bouncing over a wall behind me, I shrug it off.
If Hanzo fires an arrow over Roadhog's shoulders and hits me by accident, I roll my eyes.
If a Widowmaker shoots me, then she's not going to shoot me again at least.
Mei is just a constant pain in the arse. If she was by herself, it would probably be fine. But she never fucking is.
>>340209827
Hanzo. Widowmaker is annoying as shit but I find she contributes more to her team than Hanzo does. Hanzos all do the same damn thing, just poke in and out of cover firing random arrows without actually aiming any and waiting for their ult to charge up. Sometimes you get a good one who scatter arrows the tracer who makes it through the chokepoint into one of the corridors or saves their ult to clear the capture point but most of the time they die a lot and don't rack up enough kills to be useful enough to the team. Widowmakers do attract cunts but at least she seems to offer more than Hanzo shitters.
>>340209921
I have before. My last Zenyatta game I got gold elims with something like 25. He's the support that does the most damage and has the longest effective range (for healing too). Unfortunately he's also the squishiest because of that.
>>340209827
Definitely Widowmaker for the reasons listed. Let's also not forget that she has high vertical mobility, meaning she's unpredictable (thus hard to avoid/hunt) AND can escape many enemies including the ones meant to counter her.
>>340189096
Genji, Hanzo: retarted 10 year old weebs
Widowmaker: Ebin XxquicksscoperxX from callodoody
McCree: Cool cowboy man which attracts kiddies also OP so every shitter will try to play him just to fell good about themselves.
>>340200423
you have infinite ammo, you're supposed to blind spam arrows a lot, of course your accuracy/crit will be low.
I bet my ass 90% you fucks don't like snipers because you constantly get killed by them
>>340192475
>unless you play the easiest heal slut character in the game you're worse than people who actually have to aim to be useful
top lol
>>340209827
Widowmaker, Mei and Pharah with a pocket Mercy.
Pharah isn't unbalanced but she's just really, REALLY fucking annoying on a lot of maps, and her spash damage is dumb as fuck. At least with Junkrat you have a chance to avoid the splash damage since his nades don't detonate on impact.
>>340189096
I haven't played Overwatch, but at least 2 of them look like sniper classes and sniper classes attract the worst kind of people.
>>340196320
>filename
unless that meat is roastbeef i don't think she's interested
>>340191259
>>340208183
>please dont discuss video games on a video game board
I hate what this place has become. The memes have ended up coming true and there really is nothing left for me here.
>>340212291
irony is that a person with a modicrum of skill as a sniper is actually the most devastating class.
>>340209827
Two Bastions, obviously.
Widow is easy to kill, you have to be a complete retard to be killed by Mei and Hanzo is vulnerable at low range.
But two Bastions is fucking boring, more if the are shielded by a Reinhardt, or covered by a Mercy.
>>340209139
100% more than Mcrees ever do
>>340209827
Honestly, McREEEE. I just hate the fact that no matter what hero I play whenever I meet him he just presses E + m2 and I die. Most of the time he doesn't even try to get me. Just a reactionary X degrees turn + E and he's got you, dead. Also what kinda makes me pissed that when I play something squishy and die to him, the deathcam often doesn't show him aiming. He just presses m2 while flailing his arm around like a retard, roll and repeat.
>>340192475
>dumb healslut thinks anyone will ever appreciate him as much as the dps carrying the team
>>340197196
So fucking what? McCree can shit out 420 damage, roll, and shoot out another 420 instantly, with no flash involved. He eats through Mei or Tracer even without a stun, because his primary fire also does 70 damage with hitscan and pinpoint accuracy from greater range than them, and once they're close they can fan raw anyway.
Being able to out damage any and every character, work at a long range, be hitscan, an area denial ult that can be canceled or if you die before doing it you still have 50% ult.
>>340189096
Seems like people really gripe about team comps and are tryhards thal can't have fun.
Is anybody having fun playing this?
>>340200423
Can anyone check the stats and other information of any battletag? Because I hate any and all breaches of privacy and I would abandon the game if that's the case.
>>340212950
The worst is the stun's area of effect or range are pretty ridiculous. Fucking blind the back or somebody's knee and they can't move, I wish it at least had to be either a direct hit with it or in front of his target. One or the other at least.
>>340209827
Probably Mei.
Thank goodness Lucio has his m2 to get her out of my face and can speed boost allies right out.
>>340203773
I feel like most heroes need a damage boost. Everything needs to be more decisive. Head hitboxes could be smaller but crit damage larger.
Things just feel so clunky and slow, with the bread and butter dps like mcree just outclassing everyone else.
So please enlighten me why McCree can solo any tank in this game
What was going on in the devs' head to allow such a thing
>>340204334
But his cooldowns are kinda long and without them you're gonna get fucked if you aren't 1v1ing in the flanks or something. And that doesn't contribute to the team much anyway.
>>340214683
Why do tanks do as much, if not more damage than dps characters do?
D.Va is just about the only one that can't twoshot a non-tank
>>340208756
>4 genji potg in a row last night
Im addicted to this shit. I dont care how much people want to believe hes "highly situational", unless you mean hes highly good in most situations.
>>340214164
yes, and even moreso on masteroverwatch . com
i hate it too
>>340215394
Rein's hammer does 75 per hit. The only non-tanks he can twoshot are zenyatta and tracer. Roadhog literally needs to meatshot to oneshot/twoshot.
D.Va can't twoshot anything because her attacks are fast, and she has versatile movement. If she catches any squishy in close range, they're as good as dead.
>>340196095
got it as torbjorn
>>340194594
>That's more of a problem with the "favor the shooter" design philosophy Blizzard has
No dude, that's referring to the netcode, the netcode clearly isn't the problem here since there's nothing out of sync in that webm, the widow doesn't move and the hanzo doesn't adjust his aim for a full 2 seconds, the server and both clients are going to be perfectly in sync on what happens there. It's purely a hitbox issue.
>>340216254
>tfw died as genji at 19
>People in this thread using most pubbies as if they are not pubbies.
You do realize the game is not even a month old right?
I've noticed the rare times I play as mercy, I shit on reapers with her pistol.I guess her height is just right to line up headshots on him
>>340189096
Fuck you you cunt
You wanna know what the actual problem is?
People that NEVER change their fucking hero to counter the other team.
Bunch of fucking shitters.
>mfw just got PotG with Genji hacking and slashing enemies to death and finally slaying a Reinhardt with my dragon sword
Sounds like YOU are the one who needs to geet goodo my friend.
>be complete shit at widowmaker and hanzo
>am always shit at snipers in every game
>can play everything else fine except snipers
>almost always lose to a widowmaker who demolishes my team
>cant switch because not good enough to counter theirs
this sucks
>>340189096
Speak for yourself buddy. I wasn't doing much good on the frontlines once and there was an enemy Widowmaker who was doing a fine job of making taking the point hell. So I hopped on a Widowmaker of my own, cleared the Widowmaker, cleared the point of all but a fucking midget engineer who wisely backed out of my line of fire. No problem, I figure. Now there is one of my Tracers and a Reinhart on the point. We got this. Tracer gets herself killed because I assume midget engineer looker at her wrong. And Reinhart, fucking Reinhart...the one everyone on /v/ fucking worships for some reason...Fucking Reinhart gets killed rocketing off the point and dying like some assclown trying to chase down the midget engineer. Then we lose because time.
I FUCKING HANDED THEM THE FUCKING POINT ON THE SILVER PLATTER! ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS STAY ON IT FOR THREE MORE FUCKING SECONDS REINHART! Then he gets five commendations for being a jackass while the Mercy on the team who was actually fucking trying to keep up with his retarded meanderings while doing a decent job healing the rest of the team gets left out in the cold.
Point is...Shit players are common across all classes. Those four just get shit because if you are good, you will dominate and other players will hate you and consequently the characters for it. If they are anything less than good, they suck because you have to be slightly more precise with those guys, even when the game aims for you.
>>340216772
Including you useless sniper cunts who outright refuse to fucking play anything else like the shitters you are.
I only really complain when our team has a Hanzo or D'va, Genji attracts weebs but later levels people understand how to play him and hes always helpful against bastions, I don't see anything wrong with Mccree at all, everyone knows how to play him.
Hanzo and Widowmaker though, Hanzo is pretty fucking useless in general, even at high levels people suck with him just because he relies on having really good aim and without that the only time he ever helps the team is when he uses his ult which is amazing but with a bad player at the helm you wont see much of.
Widowmaker has more to fall back on, all her tools are great and shes one of the best characters with Mccree ofc if you see competetive matches but alas as she is a sniper she also pulls the sniper crowd just as hanzo does but shes more useful.
>>340202035
tfw play mccree but love to flank instead of killing the flankers. Always hunting the snipers by room hopping and going after healers/bastion from behind the enemy team.
>>340216772
>WE ALWAYS HAVE TO SWITCH HEROS BECAUSE WE NEED TO WIN AND NOT HAVING FUN IS ALLOWED
i play games to have fun desu not because i have to win otherwise ill have a nerd rage
>>340219315
It's a team based game. You play with the fucking team to achieve a goal. If you want to just fuck around and do what you want go play Fallout NV or Skyrim or GTA or something. They are games that are tailor made to faffing about.
>Tfw been playing OW since launch day
>Haven't gotten a single (SINGLE) PotG
>Get multi kills, ult kills, incredible revives all the time
I just want to feel special for once dammit
>>340193073
nah, Macree is shit, the thing is that you need map awareness to deal with him, in pubs, he is pretty much a flanker like reaper, also his steps are loud as fuck.
in competitive they use it with reinhard protecting him, take in accout that his projectile hitbox are (in the recent patch) almos as little as soldiers and bastion, so you keep moving and you will out play him.
>>340199692
Shh, Mei is the understimated OP hero, dont ruin this for me.
>>340205995
Some shitter that needs a gigantic hitbox to aim and hit.
I want to consensually rape Widowmaker and Tracer
>>340189096
>widow
As much of a point and click adventure as bastion
>mcree
Literally free kills at close range
>genii
COOL NINJA SAMURAI ULTRA MOVEMENT AWESOME
>hanzo
Almost impossible to miss with his arrows.
>>340219315
This is the reason why there needs to be a deathmatch mode in the game.
I'm tired of payload matches and point defending/attacking.
>McCree
Because even the most brain dead mouth-breather can pull off his HOOHAA combo
>Widowmaker
Blatantly overpowered for a sniper archetype
>Genji
Narutofags who are terrible at FPS games show just how bad they are by playing one of the hardest characters to learn very poorly
>Hanzo
For the dipshits who still find the easiest sniper in FPS history still too difficult for them.
>>340189096
Their role is to get kills and they take more skill to play than other people, mainly because aiming is important with them.
>>340209827
McCree. Just one of them completely changes how flanking classes should play their role on the other team because even if he fucks up his flashbang, fanhammer still kills anything that isn't a tank at mid-range because the spread is too tight and the damage it still does at that range is absolutely fucking retarded.
>>340209827
Bastion and Mei, neither one are particularly difficult to counter, but both require you to alter your strategy to account for them so even when you win it just isn't a fun match
>playing whatever character to take a break from genji
>someone on other team picks sniper and no one is doing anything about it
WELP TIME TO JUST GO BACK TO GENJI AND BECOME THE TEAMS DEDICATED ANTI SNIPER BECAUSE SNIPERS ARE THE DUMBEST SHIT.
